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Extreme sensitivity to WiFi

jgd0
Hello ES Group Members,

I've discovered over the past 2 years that my body is very sensitive
to WiFi connections. It causes burning sensation in my stomach and
also causes dullness in the head and face. Staying in the vicinity
for a more than 15 mins causes extreme discomfort. Sitting near high
freq CPUs also causes the same problem. I use a long keyboard and
display cables (20 feet approx) to connect to my system.

I had to move homes as I was just unable to stay/sleep in the old
place any more due to the multiple wireless connections around. But
these days wireless connections are everywhere and I discovered that
my present neighbour has WiFi which troubles my body quiet a bit.

I have tried various personal shields from EMF stores without much
success. My doctor has not heard of EHS and recommended that I see a
neurologist. I'm not sure if this will help. To top it all I work in a
tech company where WiFi and laptops with wireless abound :(

Do you have any suggestions. Is there a specific doc. I can see or
some alternate medicine I can try.

Thank You.

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Marc Martin
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> I have tried various personal shields from EMF stores without much
> success.

Which personal shields have you tried? There are a variety of
EMF protection devices out there, and only a small percentage
of the ones I've tried have proved to be helpful.

Marc

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jgd0
--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> > I have tried various personal shields from EMF stores without much
> > success.
>
> Which personal shields have you tried? There are a variety of
> EMF protection devices out there, and only a small percentage
> of the ones I've tried have proved to be helpful.
>
> Marc

Marc,

I've tried the mesh vest, an EMF shielding apron mostly from lessemf
online store. I also tried home made layered aluminum wrapping foil
worn on the shirt - this seemed to work a bit for short duration
exposures.

Thanks,
Prad

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Re: Extreme sensitivity to WiFi

Andrew McAfee
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When I travel I can no longer can stay in hotels that have WiFi. Your
doctor will be of no help so don't try to get any from him/her. I was
recommended to a Neurologist and I went partly for laughs. He was of no
help and recommended a behavioral counselor. I finally told him about
magnetic fields, microwave radiation, etc and he thought again about
his parents who live next to a power station. He started telling me all
of their health issues that were exactly what I had just reported to
him.

Rethink your job and if you really can get another one or not that has
a safer environment.
Or, develop and ingenious plan to work with your management to not have
wireless at all but high speed cable. You can have much more info
travel faster on cable anyway.
I have been working with my management for 2 years and have finally
gotten a policy that no cell phones are allowed to be "on" while on
stage (I play in an orchestra). We still have temperature and time
pieces that communicate via low power wireless though.
Good luck with yours.
Don't cell phones bother you as much? They bother me big time.
There are fabrics, hats, etc. that you can wear as well as shielding
for your home that you can buy.
LessEMF.com
I have experimented with them and find the hat very useful and the
window shielding OK.
emfservices.com
I have painted the walls with copper paint, covered the windows with
silver mesh fabric but haven't done the ceiling or floor and the TV
tower 2 miles away is still flooding the bedroom. It is better than
before but not enough. I am wondering whether to spend another $1,000
or move AGAIN. But where?
So, I think I know how you feel.
I challenge you to talk to your management and speak your truth. Most
everyone is ignorant on this issue and caught up into the hype.
Consciousness must be raised.
my best to you,
Andrew
On Jun 6, 2005, at 5:26 PM, jgd0 wrote:

> Hello ES Group Members,
>
> I've discovered over the past 2 years that my body is very sensitive
> to WiFi connections. It causes burning sensation in my stomach and
> also causes dullness in the head and face. Staying in the vicinity
> for a more than 15 mins causes extreme discomfort. Sitting near high
> freq CPUs also causes the same problem. I use a long keyboard and
> display cables (20 feet approx) to connect to my system.
>
> I had to move homes as I was just unable to stay/sleep in the old
> place any more due to the multiple wireless connections around. But
> these days wireless connections are everywhere and I discovered that
> my present neighbour has WiFi which troubles my body quiet a bit.
>
> I have tried various personal shields from EMF stores without much
> success. My doctor has not heard of EHS and recommended that I see a
> neurologist. I'm not sure if this will help. To top it all I work in a
> tech company where WiFi and laptops with wireless abound :(
>
> Do you have any suggestions. Is there a specific doc. I can see or
> some alternate medicine I can try.
>
> Thank You.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Extreme sensitivity to WiFi

Marc Martin
Administrator
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> I've tried the mesh vest, an EMF shielding apron mostly from lessemf
> online store. I also tried home made layered aluminum wrapping foil
> worn on the shirt - this seemed to work a bit for short duration
> exposures.

Yeah, I never had any luck with shielding material either. The most
luck I've had is with a few select "EMF protection devices". For
example, with WiFi in hotels, I've gotten good improvement by
plugging in a Quantum MiniMax or Power Conditioner...

(found on this site
http://www.natural-stress-reduction.com/stress-relief-products.html)

...combined with a Springlife Lifeforce pendant in my pants pocket:

http://products.bioharmonics.com/polarizers/lifeforce.htm

But, everyone is different, and what works for me may not work for
you. There are actually an amazing number of these sorts of devices
for sale these days (dozens? hundreds?). I've tried a LOT of them,
but have stopped using many because they either didn't work, or
they had strong adverse side effects, or they were impractical,
or they didn't work well enough (e.g., helps for an hour a day,
but not 10 hours a day).

You might also want to try an Earthcalm resonator (for me, this
works for several hours, but then becomes difficult to tolerate):

http://earthcalm.com/

Or perhaps a Cell Phone Rejuvenizer:

http://www.lighthealing.com/purchase-rejuvenizer.aspx

(for me, this also becomes difficult to tolerate rather quickly,
but it also eliminates adverse effects that the Springlife Polarizers
don't do such a good job at)

There are other folks on this list who've had luck with other, similar
types of products, so it's certainly worth a try.

Marc

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jgd0
In reply to this post by Andrew McAfee
Andrew,

Thanks for your inputs.

Yes - I have talked to my management. I've also informed our
environmental safety dept. Have also cut back the scope of my role at
work. I work in a big company and they WiFi in conference rooms and
hallways.

Cell phones being used by others don't bother me much. But I do not
hold up a cellphone against my ear for too long. This causes
discomfort. I use the speakerphone or one of those headphone
extensions.(air - not wire leading into the ear).

It is pretty amazing. I did read on the Swedish ES association site
that this gets progressively worse if exposure is not avoided. It is
true - I used to be ok with PDAs, small devices like music players.
But over the last year I've noticed that the body gets affected quiet
a bit by these devices also.

Excercise and fresh air helps reliveve the discomfort. So does
breathing (yoga based - I do Sudarshan Kriya regularly)

Thanks,
Prad

--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@n...> wrote:

> When I travel I can no longer can stay in hotels that have WiFi. Your
> doctor will be of no help so don't try to get any from him/her. I was
> recommended to a Neurologist and I went partly for laughs. He was of no
> help and recommended a behavioral counselor. I finally told him about
> magnetic fields, microwave radiation, etc and he thought again about
> his parents who live next to a power station. He started telling me all
> of their health issues that were exactly what I had just reported to
> him.
>
> Rethink your job and if you really can get another one or not that has
> a safer environment.
> Or, develop and ingenious plan to work with your management to not have
> wireless at all but high speed cable. You can have much more info
> travel faster on cable anyway.
> I have been working with my management for 2 years and have finally
> gotten a policy that no cell phones are allowed to be "on" while on
> stage (I play in an orchestra). We still have temperature and time
> pieces that communicate via low power wireless though.
> Good luck with yours.
> Don't cell phones bother you as much? They bother me big time.
> There are fabrics, hats, etc. that you can wear as well as shielding
> for your home that you can buy.
> LessEMF.com
> I have experimented with them and find the hat very useful and the
> window shielding OK.
> emfservices.com
> I have painted the walls with copper paint, covered the windows with
> silver mesh fabric but haven't done the ceiling or floor and the TV
> tower 2 miles away is still flooding the bedroom. It is better than
> before but not enough. I am wondering whether to spend another $1,000
> or move AGAIN. But where?
> So, I think I know how you feel.
> I challenge you to talk to your management and speak your truth. Most
> everyone is ignorant on this issue and caught up into the hype.
> Consciousness must be raised.
> my best to you,
> Andrew
> On Jun 6, 2005, at 5:26 PM, jgd0 wrote:
>
> > Hello ES Group Members,
> >
> > I've discovered over the past 2 years that my body is very sensitive
> > to WiFi connections. It causes burning sensation in my stomach and
> > also causes dullness in the head and face. Staying in the vicinity
> > for a more than 15 mins causes extreme discomfort. Sitting near high
> > freq CPUs also causes the same problem. I use a long keyboard and
> > display cables (20 feet approx) to connect to my system.
> >
> > I had to move homes as I was just unable to stay/sleep in the old
> > place any more due to the multiple wireless connections around. But
> > these days wireless connections are everywhere and I discovered that
> > my present neighbour has WiFi which troubles my body quiet a bit.
> >
> > I have tried various personal shields from EMF stores without much
> > success. My doctor has not heard of EHS and recommended that I see a
> > neurologist. I'm not sure if this will help. To top it all I work in a
> > tech company where WiFi and laptops with wireless abound :(
> >
> > Do you have any suggestions. Is there a specific doc. I can see or
> > some alternate medicine I can try.
> >
> >\

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Marc Martin
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> It is pretty amazing. I did read on the Swedish ES association site
> that this gets progressively worse if exposure is not avoided.

It can also get progressively better if you take an active part
in fighting it. For me, getting my metal dental work removed,
improving my diet, taking supplements, and using EMF protection
devices allow me to not be bothered by all sorts of things which
use to bother me a lot.

Marc

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jgd0
--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> wrote:

> > It is pretty amazing. I did read on the Swedish ES association site
> > that this gets progressively worse if exposure is not avoided.
>
> It can also get progressively better if you take an active part
> in fighting it. For me, getting my metal dental work removed,
> improving my diet, taking supplements, and using EMF protection
> devices allow me to not be bothered by all sorts of things which
> use to bother me a lot.
>
> Marc

Marc,

Glad to hear it can get progressively better if you actively fight it.
Could you tell me what supplements helped you ?

Thanks,
Prad

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Marc Martin
Administrator
> Glad to hear it can get progressively better if you actively fight it.
> Could you tell me what supplements helped you ?

Over the past 5 years, I've probably tried over 200 different
supplements
(!), but here's a a short list of really notable ones (that is, ones
which obviously have improved EMF tolerance/energy levels/immunity):

Seasilver or Sea Energy (general nutrition)
e-Poise (multivitamin for left/right brain balancing from Standard
Process)
Active-H (antioxidant, aka as "Megahydrin")
Cellfood (ionic minerals, enzymes, amino acids, oxygen)
Evening Primrose Oil (essential fatty acids)
Primal Defense (probiotic)
Echinacia Premium (from Medi-Herb, good for immune boosting)

Also, lately I've been experimenting with Siberian Ginseng (aka
Eleuthero)
and Oregacyn (concentrated oil of oregano) with good results, although
I've not used either of these nearly as much as the ones in the
above list (some of which I've been taking off and on for 5 years!)

Marc