Emf is harmful but is the Vaccine harmful?

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Marc Martin
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I've seen claims that in the UK and Israel, 80% of the hospitalizations and deaths are in people who are fully vaccinated.  Or, at least, had two shots.  As I think Israel now considers two shots as "unvaccinated".
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steve
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I got the J&J Vaccine. I didn't trust the RNA Vaccines and didn't want 2 shots.
My lymph glands swelled up for a while, but other than that so far I'm OK.
I am sensitive to the flu shot so I was nervous but there was no way i was going to get 2 of the other type
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welcomekoa
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yeah i STILL don't know what to fully think of this. I have no vaccinations for covid, and don't plan on getting one. all i know is that i've had some strange symptoms going back to early 2020, just as covid hit here. had many people in my circle, family and friends who  died from heart problems or died in their sleep, without having any obvious covid symptoms. i also know of a handful of people who were having stroke-like symptoms (including myself) in early 2020, but who did not have positive Covid results....and then I hear of many people like Elon Musk, who in one day had two positive Covid test results AND two negative ones. I just feel like I don't know the truth to make a decision about anything. We need open forums. We need the scientific community and its people from ALL perspectives of health and wellness to come together and air out their truths so it can be cross checked by others.
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dtesh85
I inquired about the J and J at Cvs and one person mentioned to me that it was pulled due to side effects and another Cvs I called said it was corporates decision to pull it and didn't know the reasoning
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Marc Martin
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J&J is still available elsewhere, if that's what you're looking for.  Although if you've waited this long, might want to wait a little longer until Novavax is approved, as it seems like some people are waiting for that one since it's more of a traditional vaccine than the current RNA/DNA ones.
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Dandelion
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I only know what I've seen. An electrosensitive lady came to live at our farm. She had just gotten the vaccine. She had been living in a camper in an urban area in the Northwest, having problems but surviving, but when she got out here, post vaccine, she was the most EMF sensitive person I'd ever met, feeling airplanes in the sky, tiny amounts of cell tower radiation, EMFs from the car's engine, etc. We seriously were worried she might die (she shortly left and we've never heard from her again).
I have another friend whose cancer came back after he got the vaccine.
My aunt got gout after the first shot, she took meds for it and it went away, then it came back after the 2nd shot.
No way would I ever take this thing. Even if it's not a conspiracy, it's an untested technology and we're the lab rats. I think the main effects we will see will be long term autoimmune effects and sterility.
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dtesh85
Hi dandelion thanks for sharing the anecdotes

One of the things I keep hearing is that the vaccine mostly works for severe infection/death from covid though not perfect.

Its unfortunate to hear someone getting a gout and being more sensitive to emf

Its a tough question though I still find.Is getting a gout or being more electrosensitive worse than potential severe infection/death from covid ?

I don't know of there's an easy answer.Perhaps the risk of getting more emf sensitive could be a good reason
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black-sun
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Vaccines have been harmful since 1918. Mainstream media have hidden harmful effects of vaccines.

Vaccines have been known to cause autism which is just a fancy name for mechanical intellect overriding human general intelligence.

Artificial intelligence is known to be good at optimizing a narrow domain and terribly bad at adapting to different situations.
Autism is merely an outwardly symptom of mechanical intellect.

Vaccines make you much less effective at adapting to different situations. It makes you robotic.

Vaccines have caused paralysis(polio is just a fancy name for paralysis) and flu symptoms and symptoms of coronavirus that they promised to prevent. They also destroy your immune system so that you will likely depend on pharmaceutical drugs to compensate for your weakened immune system for the rest of your life. AIDS is just a fancy name for weakened immune system. AIDS is not caused by HIV(human immunodeficiency virus). Weakened immune system is caused by vaccines or highly decadent lifestyles involving lots of sex and drug. The cure for AIDS is healthy life style without vaccination. The cure for AIDS isn't an antiviral drug.

They also have caused infertility in many millions of african women years ago. Bill Gates said he could reduce the population by vaccinating them. Reducing the population through infertility is one such way.

Recent coronavirus vaccines have caused many deaths, but mainstream media have hidden deaths caused by vaccines.
Art of war says the highest form of war doesn't have to involve a single bullet. Vaccination and mainstream media are highest forms of war against people.

Vaccination will make you stupid, infertile, weak, and probably dead.
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black-sun
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dtesh85
Im sorry but this sound too conspiracitorial.

There's no doubt that the reduction in covid deaths are in some part due to the vaccines

Not to say that the vaccine hasn't caused damage/death in some people which should be closer examined

Seems that covid has killed a lot of people as well

There's no doubt that there are global elitists but some secret plan like this i don't know.

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dtesh85
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Im sorry but Hiv does leads to AIDS

There is no cure for AIDS and anti-retroviral drugs have prevented hiv patients in keeping the viral load down to prevent AIDS

Healthy lifestyle is important i agree but doesn't by itself prevent hiv from developing into AIDS
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black-sun
HIV hasn't actually been isolated once from AIDS patients.

AIDS is merely a fancy name for weakened immune system which can be caused by anything including highly decadent lifestyle lasting for years.

COVID-19 hasn't actually been isolated from COVID-19 patients.
All legal courts on earth have admitted so far that government agencies don't have live samples of COVID-19 isolated from the so-called COVID-19 patients. If you haven't isolated something, how do you know it exists in the first place?
Without isolation, a virus doesn't pass koch's postulate which is the basis for proving the existence of a virus.

There has been massive censorship of truths by mainstream media and government.

I have been a conspiracy researcher for over 2 years. You are not going to get it unless you also put in the time as I did.

The truth is that you have been lied to about statistics. Especially, statistics on COVID-19 death and COVID-19 case.

I don't tell you to believe what I say. You can research truth behind coronavirus and make up your own mind on your own time.

I tell you that unless you are open-minded enough to consider different possibilites, you will be stuck with one paradigm for the rest of your life. That paradigm you assume is the truth without your own examination may not be truth.
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black-sun
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You haven't actually searched for "truth behind most things", and you assume without examination that what you've been told is truth.

But, you are not aware of the fact that you "assume" it is truth without any proof or any evidence.

If mainstream media say something, it must be truth, right?

Don't outsource your thinking to government and mainstream media. Validate claims yourself by searching for truth on the internet.

If your search keywords are "truth" and anything that you want to know about, you will probably get closer to truth.

I usually type "truth behind something" when I want to know the real truths.
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black-sun
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By the way, a fun fact is that two thirds of americans are reported to have HIV genetic sequences in their bodies.

Technically, two thirds of all americans can test positive of HIV because they have genetic sequence of HIV.

HIV is a joke.

If I increase the PCR cycle of a HIV PCR test, two thirds of americans will test positive of HIV.
If I increase the PCR cycle enough, more than 80% of americans will test positive of HIV.

If I increase the PCR cycle of COVID-19 test, I can make 99% of humans test positive of COVID-19.

The inventor of PCR test, Kary Mullis, said PCR should never be used to test for infection of anything.
Yet, it is used to diagnose HIV, coronavirus, and various other viruses.

Since the number of PCR cycles can be controlled by politicians and corporate oligarchs, PCR tests are already a tool used by the global elites to control perception of the earth population.

Vanguard and BlackRock control more than 90% of all american mainstream media outlets. If the two companies wanted to make people believe that an imaginary infectious disease is real, they can do so by handing out scripts to mainstream media and controlling PCR test cycles.

By lowering PCR test cycles, you can make an infectious disease disappear. It's a magic trick.
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black-sun
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dtesh85
Yes but is a coincidence that with vaccines the hospitalizations and death rates are going down amongst those vaccinated?

I think not.Seems for most people the vaccine seems to do a good job in lowering the severity of the illness
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dtesh85
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Actually Hiv is not a joke .

Before the creation of anti-retrovirals many more people died of Aids...

It happened in my home county in Ethiopia and other parts of the world.Tennis player Arthur Ashe got hiv from a blood transfusion.Despite being a highly trained athlete and being in very good physical condition he died from Aids.

If he was living in the era now where people like Magic Johnson received anti retrovirals he may still be around.

A video that has Ron Paul clips and infowars.org type of graphics/font is not evidence.You need scientific data
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black-sun
Dig deeper. You just scratched the surface.

Mainstream statistics are mostly lies. They have been fabricated out of thin air.

If you dig deeper, you will discover that they fabricated statistics that do not pass koch's postulates.

HIV hasn't passed koch's postulates. COVID-19 hasn't passed koch's postulates.
The commonality between HIV and COVID-19 is that they haven't been isolated at least once from actual human patients.
Not once over decades of history of HIV. Not once for almost 2 years since the beginning of COVID-19 media freakout.

Death statistics have been fabricated out their ass. The correct number for HIV/COVID-19 death statistics is 0.
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dtesh85
For those of you who got the vaccine how are you doing?
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dtesh85
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For those of you who got the vaccine how are you doing?

I found a low ehs house but was told I need to get vaccinated ro stay

Thank you
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