It is a list of 25 points, of which all have to be followed.
It is mainly a matter of repairing the damaged immune system (with alternative means). The trick is the combination of the points, which on their own are generally known. It is also a matter of killing parasites, worms, virusses and bacteria. And treating certain illnesses one may have. Also treating uncoped trauma's. And *cleaning* the inside of the body. But not everybody is willing to follow all 25 points. But there are naturopath's who can start such a process also. Some time ago, I have checked my hearing. Left 45 dB and right 72 dB. I worked one month on it and let it check again. Left 35 dB, and right 62 dB. So a gain of 10 dB in just one month. PS. I have found that very tiny weak VLF frequencies (*dirty power* as well as *dirty air*) can disrupt the equilibrium of a person much more than mobile phone masts or DECT phones or WiFi. But now I close this discussion. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Martin To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrosmog Detector? >> But you do not know *my procedure*. >> The persons who followed it are quite well. > OK, now I'm curious, what is your procedure? I'm mostly curious as to why this procedure has never been posted here or online... Marc ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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yes you may well be right here as you know I am being soft killed by a
plasma tv, even low frequency can be found on the cell phone transmissions and lf is a good penertrater In a message dated 24/11/2010 20:06:09 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: PS. I have found that very tiny weak VLF frequencies (*dirty power* as well as *dirty air*) can disrupt the equilibrium of a person much more than mobile phone masts or DECT phones or WiFi. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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The makers of the Electrosmog Detector have sold all of the original production and will soon have a new model out. Perhaps more than one model. Shivani Arjuna www.LifeEnergies.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I wonder if this is why I can't sleep in my house when I turn off all the electricity? Well, before smart meters. So how do I find out if my city does this? Then people in each city wouldn't have to pay for the internet. Or the wireless is just in the air & you have to pay for activation? Could you clarify how it works exactly? Loni --- On Wed, 11/24/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Electrosmog Detector? To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 12:31 PM > What is city wifi? It's when an Internet provider offers wireless internet (usually for those who own laptop computers) that works all throughout the city. This is implemented with lots of wi-fi transmitter/receivers spread throughout the city. I'd guess that most major American cities have this. The city I live in certainly does. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> So how do I find out if my city does this? Then people in each city
> wouldn't have to pay for the internet. Or the wireless is just in the air > & you have to pay for activation? > > Could you clarify how it works exactly? Well, I don't have this, so I don't know exactly, but you would certainly have to pay for it! I know that where we live, there is one service, Clearwire, which is wireless and works throughout the city. There are probably others. Marc |
So if we had it here then there would probably be advertising going on so that people would hook up to the service I guess. How did you hear about your area having it? Loni
--- On Fri, 11/26/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] City Wifi To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 9:29 AM > So how do I find out if my city does this? Then people in each city > wouldn't have to pay for the internet. Or the wireless is just in the air > & you have to pay for activation? > > Could you clarify how it works exactly? Well, I don't have this, so I don't know exactly, but you would certainly have to pay for it! I know that where we live, there is one service, Clearwire, which is wireless and works throughout the city. There are probably others. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> So if we had it here then there would probably be advertising going on so
> that people would hook up to the service I guess. How did you hear about > your area having it? Loni I heard about Clearwire via advertising which mostly came in the postal mail, but I suspect there are many services in my city that I have never heard of... Marc |
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Please let us know when it is available! Loni
--- On Thu, 11/25/10, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Electrosmog Detector? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 8:21 PM The makers of the Electrosmog Detector have sold all of the original production and will soon have a new model out. Perhaps more than one model. Shivani Arjuna www.LifeEnergies.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In Belgium there is a city wifi network for most part of the Belgian coast. Offering free wifi to tourists...
That signal from that wifi really got me sick back then. With me it kinda depends on what type of wifi. The wifi often used in homes and hotels I'm not feeling immediately. Was in a hotel once with strong wifi (stronger wifi emitters), there I couldn't feel it as well... In other cities here in Belgium there are city wifi systems too, in most I think I'm doing okey... Marc, mentioned Clearwire. Well that same company seems to be pretty global, as they also offer wimax in the biggest Belgian cities (or want to do that in the future)... Could be that Clearwire also emits 4G and wifi... 4G and wimax is even worse than 3G... Imo: -it depends on what specific signal your body can't stand -and no emf is always best of course... Stephen. --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > So if we had it here then there would probably be advertising going on so that people would hook up to the service I guess. How did you hear about your area having it? Loni > > --- On Fri, 11/26/10, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] City Wifi > To: [hidden email] > Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 9:29 AM > > >  > > > > > So how do I find out if my city does this? Then people in each city > > wouldn't have to pay for the internet. Or the wireless is just in the air > > & you have to pay for activation? > >  > >  Could you clarify how it works exactly? > > Well, I don't have this, so I don't know exactly, but you would certainly > have to pay for it! > > I know that where we live, there is one service, Clearwire, which is > wireless and works throughout the city. There are probably others. > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
Wifi works at 2.4 GHz or in the 5 GHz frequency band.
Clearwire is not WiFi, but Wimax and works at 3.5 GHz. It will come eventually in the 2.6 GHz band as well in the 800 MHz band. 4G or LTE is installed in some places but not working. because there are no receivers available, so nobody knows how those signals are. The only thing we do know is that these signals can disturb DVB-T signals. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: stephen_vandevijvere To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 3:39 AM Subject: [eSens] Re: City Wifi In Belgium there is a city wifi network for most part of the Belgian coast. Offering free wifi to tourists... That signal from that wifi really got me sick back then. With me it kinda depends on what type of wifi. The wifi often used in homes and hotels I'm not feeling immediately. Was in a hotel once with strong wifi (stronger wifi emitters), there I couldn't feel it as well... In other cities here in Belgium there are city wifi systems too, in most I think I'm doing okey... Marc, mentioned Clearwire. Well that same company seems to be pretty global, as they also offer wimax in the biggest Belgian cities (or want to do that in the future)... Could be that Clearwire also emits 4G and wifi... 4G and wimax is even worse than 3G... Imo: -it depends on what specific signal your body can't stand -and no emf is always best of course... Stephen. --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > So if we had it here then there would probably be advertising going on so that people would hook up to the service I guess. How did you hear about your area having it? Loni > > --- On Fri, 11/26/10, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] City Wifi > To: [hidden email] > Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 9:29 AM > > >  > > > > > So how do I find out if my city does this? Then people in each city > > wouldn't have to pay for the internet. Or the wireless is just in the air > > & you have to pay for activation? > >  > >  Could you clarify how it works exactly? > > Well, I don't have this, so I don't know exactly, but you would certainly > have to pay for it! > > I know that where we live, there is one service, Clearwire, which is > wireless and works throughout the city. There are probably others. > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hah!
In otherwords, your "procedure"/"protocol" is to follow all that I have been trying to tell ESers to do for year, which you always berated as being "off-topic"! And, pray tell, how is this accomplished in two weeks. We all really want to know, Charles! Ever skeptical of Charles, Diane --- On Wed, 11/24/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote: From: charles <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrosmog Detector? To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 3:05 PM It is a list of 25 points, of which all have to be followed. It is mainly a matter of repairing the damaged immune system (with alternative means). The trick is the combination of the points, which on their own are generally known. It is also a matter of killing parasites, worms, virusses and bacteria. And treating certain illnesses one may have. Also treating uncoped trauma's. And *cleaning* the inside of the body. But not everybody is willing to follow all 25 points. But there are naturopath's who can start such a process also. Some time ago, I have checked my hearing. Left 45 dB and right 72 dB. I worked one month on it and let it check again. Left 35 dB, and right 62 dB. So a gain of 10 dB in just one month. PS. I have found that very tiny weak VLF frequencies (*dirty power* as well as *dirty air*) can disrupt the equilibrium of a person much more than mobile phone masts or DECT phones or WiFi. But now I close this discussion. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Martin To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrosmog Detector? >> But you do not know *my procedure*. >> The persons who followed it are quite well. > OK, now I'm curious, what is your procedure? I'm mostly curious as to why this procedure has never been posted here or online... Marc ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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CURE - WHAT A SUBJECTIVE WORD ANYWAY - In a message dated 28/11/2010 01:08:00 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: Hah! In otherwords, your "procedure"/"protocol" is to follow all that I have been trying to tell ESers to do for year, which you always berated as being "off-topic"! And, pray tell, how is this accomplished in two weeks. We all really want to know, Charles! Ever skeptical of Charles, Diane --- On Wed, 11/24/10, charles <_charles@milieuziektes.be_ (mailto:[hidden email]) > wrote: From: charles <_charles@milieuziektes.be_ (mailto:[hidden email]) > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrosmog Detector? To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 3:05 PM It is a list of 25 points, of which all have to be followed. It is mainly a matter of repairing the damaged immune system (with alternative means). The trick is the combination of the points, which on their own are generally known. It is also a matter of killing parasites, worms, virusses and bacteria. And treating certain illnesses one may have. Also treating uncoped trauma's. And *cleaning* the inside of the body. But not everybody is willing to follow all 25 points. But there are naturopath's who can start such a process also. Some time ago, I have checked my hearing. Left 45 dB and right 72 dB. I worked one month on it and let it check again. Left 35 dB, and right 62 dB. So a gain of 10 dB in just one month. PS. I have found that very tiny weak VLF frequencies (*dirty power* as well as *dirty air*) can disrupt the equilibrium of a person much more than mobile phone masts or DECT phones or WiFi. But now I close this discussion. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Martin To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrosmog Detector? >> But you do not know *my procedure*. >> The persons who followed it are quite well. > OK, now I'm curious, what is your procedure? I'm mostly curious as to why this procedure has never been posted here or online... Marc ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I'd like to know of the 25 points! What are they? Loni
--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrosmog Detector? To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 6:07 PM Hah! In otherwords, your "procedure"/"protocol" is to follow all that I have been trying to tell ESers to do for year, which you always berated as being "off-topic"! And, pray tell, how is this accomplished in two weeks. We all really want to know, Charles! Ever skeptical of Charles, Diane --- On Wed, 11/24/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote: From: charles <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrosmog Detector? To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 3:05 PM It is a list of 25 points, of which all have to be followed. It is mainly a matter of repairing the damaged immune system (with alternative means). The trick is the combination of the points, which on their own are generally known. It is also a matter of killing parasites, worms, virusses and bacteria. And treating certain illnesses one may have. Also treating uncoped trauma's. And *cleaning* the inside of the body. But not everybody is willing to follow all 25 points. But there are naturopath's who can start such a process also. Some time ago, I have checked my hearing. Left 45 dB and right 72 dB. I worked one month on it and let it check again. Left 35 dB, and right 62 dB. So a gain of 10 dB in just one month. PS. I have found that very tiny weak VLF frequencies (*dirty power* as well as *dirty air*) can disrupt the equilibrium of a person much more than mobile phone masts or DECT phones or WiFi. But now I close this discussion. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Martin To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrosmog Detector? >> But you do not know *my procedure*. >> The persons who followed it are quite well. > OK, now I'm curious, what is your procedure? I'm mostly curious as to why this procedure has never been posted here or online... Marc ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Sensory Perspective have been over optimistic at how quickly they could
complete the round of finance required to produce this new and exciting Electrosmog detector model (more sensitive down to 0.01V/m and up to 8 GHz for roughly £20-£25 retail). Although they have secured over half the funding they require, Nick said to me that, understandably, he no longer wishes to make any predictions, but that the very earliest it could be would now be March next year. Let's wish them the best; this affordable device will make a huge difference to our cause, by putting it in the hands of so many more people! It's always hearing the audio from the Electrosmog detector that begins to convince people that this invisible menace is real and dangerous. Almost everybody has an instant dislike to the sound it makes, whether it's DECT base station, phone mobile phone masts, WiFi base stations etc. It is by far the most convincing tool to wake up people's attention to the issue. Best, John _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of jaime_schunkewitz Sent: 21 November 2010 17:50 To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Re: Electrosmog Detector? Word is out that new, improved Electrosmog Detector models will be out soon. Same with Gigahertz Solution models. Seems you need a meter that locks in peak measurements over time. I believe the HF59B has that. Eli --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "torch369" <torch369@...> wrote: > > I'm thinking about getting one, I assume it's different than the CellSensor Gauss meter I have. Does anyone own a Electrosmog Detector? I want to see exactly what I'm being exposed to with those Smart Meters. > I haven't had a decent nights sleep since they were installed. SDGE lied to me about them transmitting once every 8 hours. I've since read that it's either every 4 hours or every hour. > Does anyone else hear an odd sounding chirp when they transmit or am I hearing something else? > Steve > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Great John! Looking forward to more info in the coming months! Loni
--- On Thu, 12/9/10, John Jamieson <[hidden email]> wrote: From: John Jamieson <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Electrosmog Detector? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 12:40 AM Sensory Perspective have been over optimistic at how quickly they could complete the round of finance required to produce this new and exciting Electrosmog detector model (more sensitive down to 0.01V/m and up to 8 GHz for roughly £20-£25 retail). Although they have secured over half the funding they require, Nick said to me that, understandably, he no longer wishes to make any predictions, but that the very earliest it could be would now be March next year. Let's wish them the best; this affordable device will make a huge difference to our cause, by putting it in the hands of so many more people! It's always hearing the audio from the Electrosmog detector that begins to convince people that this invisible menace is real and dangerous. Almost everybody has an instant dislike to the sound it makes, whether it's DECT base station, phone mobile phone masts, WiFi base stations etc. It is by far the most convincing tool to wake up people's attention to the issue. Best, John _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of jaime_schunkewitz Sent: 21 November 2010 17:50 To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Re: Electrosmog Detector? Word is out that new, improved Electrosmog Detector models will be out soon. Same with Gigahertz Solution models. Seems you need a meter that locks in peak measurements over time. I believe the HF59B has that. Eli --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "torch369" <torch369@...> wrote: > > I'm thinking about getting one, I assume it's different than the CellSensor Gauss meter I have. Does anyone own a Electrosmog Detector? I want to see exactly what I'm being exposed to with those Smart Meters. > I haven't had a decent nights sleep since they were installed. SDGE lied to me about them transmitting once every 8 hours. I've since read that it's either every 4 hours or every hour. > Does anyone else hear an odd sounding chirp when they transmit or am I hearing something else? > Steve > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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