Electrosensitivity

Thank you for this group. It is from what we have read here that we have determined that my husband is electrosensitive. Many trips to doctors have been unhelpful - same old story. My husband experiences facial burning at all times when he uses a laptop and at all times in our home. The only relief comes from eating or sleeping. He has used a spray which helps temporarily - it is Avene - a springwater from France that comes as a spray - for whatever reason it helps temporarily. I have been reading your site and sharing the information with my husband. He has quit using his labtop in the classroom. He came home tonight and said that he was getting worse and if he didn't do something he would no longer be able to use a computer. We have a CRT monitor which we plan to change to a LCD screen. For upcoming report cards he will distance himself from the screen with extension cables and perhaps a projector. I am just grateful for a place to talk about this without being looked at
as if I am going crazy. I am also interested in what personal protection devices that you have found helpful or any other suggestions that you might give. Thanks again so much.
Sharon Menicanin


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> I am also interested in what personal
> protection devices that you have found helpful or any other suggestions
> that you might give. Thanks again so much.

Welcome to the group, Sharon!

I think you will find that if you browse through old messages, you
will find a lot of experiences from various group members. Also,
some of the initial messages have been compiled into large text
files and are available in the "files" portion of this Yahoo
Group, which might be easier to navigate than using Yahoo's
interface.

Marc

> I think you will find that if you browse through old messages, you
> will find a lot of experiences from various group members.

Oh, and your husband might find the following website
interesting reading:

http://electrical-sensitivity.info/

Marc

Sharon,

I dunno if this will be of much help and it's certainly not scientific but I used to get flushing constantly; flushing that would turn to dry, rashy...well, you know. I found allergy shots helped. I guess the antihistamines reduce the inflamation. Not much of a solution but...

tanya


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Thank you for this group. It is from what we have read here that we have determined that my husband is electrosensitive. Many trips to doctors have been unhelpful - same old story. My husband experiences facial burning at all times when he uses a laptop and at all times in our home. The only relief comes from eating or sleeping. He has used a spray which helps temporarily - it is Avene - a springwater from France that comes as a spray - for whatever reason it helps temporarily. I have been reading your site and sharing the information with my husband. He has quit using his labtop in the classroom. He came home tonight and said that he was getting worse and if he didn't do something he would no longer be able to use a computer. We have a CRT monitor which we plan to change to a LCD screen. For upcoming report cards he will distance himself from the screen with extension cables and perhaps a projector. I am just grateful for a place to talk about this without being looked atas if I am going crazy. I am also interested in what personal protection devices that you have found helpful or any other suggestions that you might give. Thanks again so much.Sharon Menicanin---------------------------------Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






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> My husband experiences facial burning at all times when he uses a laptop and at all times in our home.>

Hi Sharon,
Very powerful microwaves are emitted from the antenna located in the top edge of the laptop screen (and the home's wireless router).
As an experiment, have your husband try turning off the laptop's wireless connection (radio disabled). And turn off (unplug) the wireless router. Does that improve his symptoms? If yes, you can consider only using a wired network connection. Shielding is another option, of course.
If that doesn't help, then he is still reacting to the electric and/or magnetic fields. Here, shielding and remote keyboard are still possible ways to reduce exposure.
By the way, I recently stumbled across a utility called "magnifier" in start/programs/accessories/accessibility. Very useful for viewing your screen at great distance. You can magnify your screen display from 2x to 9x. Has anyone used this? There is also an onscreen keyboard (in same location), so one could do all keyboard functions with a remote mouse.
Emil



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There is a utility like that on the optional install disc for mac (it may be
enabled
by default in the latest Leopard OS?). The other way, besides increasing
font size,
is to decrease resolution.

I think large LCD screens are more likely to be a problem than smaller ones,
but
that also limits how far you can put it. Projectors may be the better
approach,
like the energy efficient 'pocket' LED DLP ones, although DLP makes that
rainbow effect that
can be irritating if you're doing multiple hours at a time.

Good luck...
Bill

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> I think large LCD screens are more likely to be a problem than smaller ones

I'm not so sure about such generalizations -- it seems that my 26" LCD
causes me less problems than my previous 15" LCD. I think that is
simply because I can be further away from it and still see it fine.

Marc

Thanks for the intro. I am new to the group as well, and found the replies
helpful.

My son has allergies that cause failure to thrive (he can't gain weight no
matter how much he eats). He also has terrible bleeding eczema all over his
body. We found out by accident that he gets better during power
blackouts--then the eczema comes back when the power comes back again.
Through a lot of trial and error, we hypothesize that his allergies are
related to electrosensitivity. In remote villages where there is no
electricity (in Africa), he can eat things with almost no allergic reaction.
And he gains weight.

We are now living in Peru (South America). We haven't found any place in
the USA where he can live without being very ill. Africa is ideal for him,
but impractical for the rest of the family.

Helen in Peru

Hi Sharon

My advice would be somewhat different to everyone
elses as last year I too had issues with my computer.
At this point, I really wished I had stayed away,
worked out what to do, and then continued on.

In my opinion, if your husband continues as he is, it
may possibly get worse. I honestly wish someone had
stopped me working, even for a couple of weeks, as I
got much worse, even though I am now improving. I
understand this is very difficult when trying to do a
job but sometimes you need to put your health first.

I would suggest a week off or two if he can manage it.
I would then go around your house and make sure all
wifi, mobiles, dect phones and anything radiating a
signal is switched off. In fact, anything that does
not need to be plugged in, remove it and see if it
makes a difference. It is good to try and keep a
diary, this has helped me. Install a wired connection
for the internet but give yourself a break until the
symptoms settle down.

I would then suggest looking at his health and diet.
Switching to a fresh organic diet helps and also
changing anything else that adds to the toxic load,
eg, all my home products/beauty products have been
switched to Eco ones.

I would also suggest speaking to someone about
vitamins and minerals as many ES people have low
B-Vits and trace minerals. I would also look at
taking an antioxidant to keep him in optimum health.

I am getting some good results from Epsom Salts baths
which detoxify you. If I have been on a computer for
a long time and have one of these baths, it takes away
that horrible numb feeling...it may help and it is
cheap to try.

I would also suggest getting some fresh air and taking
up some exercise or form of relaxation if possible.

I personally dont think the computer screen has any
bearing, it is bringing on 'symptoms' but symptoms
have a cause and treating the basic health should
hopefully bring about an improvement.

These are only my suggestions and many of the people
on this site have much more experience than me, I just
wanted to try and help if at all possible.

Please come back to me if you have any questions on
the things I mention above.

Alison


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In a message dated 2/5/2008 9:40:44 AM GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

tonight and said that he was getting worse and if he
> didn't do something he would no longer be able to
> use a computer. We have a CRT monitor which we plan
> to change to a LCD screen. For upcoming report cards
> he will distance himself from the screen with
> extension cables and perhaps a projector. I am just
> grateful for a place to talk about this without
> being looked at



Paul UK replies - He might find the purchase of an Electrosmog detector a
good investment to determine what level of elctrosmog (in the range of the
meter) he is being exposed to, he might find that he is closer than he thinks to
all manner of wireless devices, dect phone base, wifi, mobile phone masts
etc.. If he goes down this route he can use the device somewhat surruptitiously
by plugging in a earphone into the jack plug, best not to alarm others as
you are unlikely to get a great deal of appreciation from this. He might also
have a word with Mr... Bevington an english masters teacher at stowe school
who he may relate to - contact Electrosensitivity.uk. If you are by chance
local to surrey england then you could arrange to meet with myself and another
ES sufferer (he conducts Electromagnetice surveys so is very knowledgeable on
the subject) finally Yes ditch the CRT, although an LCD screen particularly
if part of a laptop can be very offensive to ES sufferers - Tip try getting
an AM radio tune it out to white noise and bring it close to offending
equipment you will most likely here what you are up against, your best friend at
this stage is good old fashioned prudent advoidance and distance. Oh and last
thing I am currently trialing a magnification software called ZOOMTEXT, this
enables me to magnify all text on screen so that I can sit further away
without aid of glasses, you also have the possibility of using voice activated
software but alsa for me the microphone and whatever it omits is most offensive
! it might work for you ?

Paul UK






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In a message dated 2/5/2008 6:14:51 AM GMT Standard Time, [hidden email]
writes:

My son has allergies that cause failure to thrive (he can't gain weight no
matter how much he eats). He also has terrible bleeding eczema all over his
body. We found out by accident that he gets better during power
blackouts--then the eczema comes back when the power comes back again.
Through a lot of trial and error, we hypothesize that his allergies are
related to electrosensitivity. In remote villages where there is no
electricity (in Africa), he can eat things with almost no allergic reaction.
And he gains weight.
I find this very interesting, my theory as an ES sufferer is that as we have
begun to fill our environments with so many artificial chemical compounds
and in tandum the ever increasing electrosmog puts so many peoples bodies into a
state of intracellular alert, if the body cannot make sense of the invader
by converting it to something that can be eliminated in a tried and trusted
way it will go haywire leading to autoimmune pathologies, signals from
Telephone masts, phones etc will act on weaknesses and like they were cracks open
them up thus predisposing the individual to disease and so on, I am not a Dr but
that makes sense to me. What I have found is that restricting the amount of
caloiries I intake particularly from breakfast to lunch does seem to lessen
or stave off symptoms, but getting the balance right and maintaining it is
the big problem.

I hope you find a santuary if you do then protect it as best you can.

P uk











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In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:11:09 AM GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

By the way, I recently stumbled across a utility called "magnifier" in
start/programs/By the wBy the way, I recently stumbled across a utility called
"magnifier" in start/programs/<WBR>accessories/<WBR>accessibility. Very useful
for viewing your screen at great distance. You can magnify your screen
display from 2x to 9x. Has anyone used this? There
Emil



I am currently trialing Zoomtext which is very good, it also combines a
reader that will talk, this is a little anpying but can be easily disabled.
Trial for 30 days from Download.com or similar. Also as my laptop is only
15.4inch screen I find the constant moving of the dispaly in zoomtext can induce
sea sickness feeling. I am 1.5m away from the laptop and using a ordinary
keyboard with a separate infrared mouse, none of this really helps, as the mouse
stings my hand and upto my elbow, as it did with normal mouse so really I
need greater distance from the whole setup, combined with greater
disipline/organisation when on the pc, however after a while any startegy I have gets as
wooly as my head, best thing would be to get someone else to do the
computerwork !

Paul UK






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