Electrified anyone?

could it help to rejuvenate cells which are being disrupted by calcium ion channels?

there are some products such as enzymes and other products apparently addressing these issues.

There is a product I am considering at the mo, but I am not sure if I am allowed to put the link here or not.

Kooky

> There is a product I am considering at the mo, but I am not sure if I am
> allowed to put the link here or not.

You are certainly allowed to mention and link to products here, as you
might get some feedback from others who may have already tried them.

Also, everyone should mention products that have made a difference
for their ES, either in a good or bad way.

Marc

> I also get shocks with bare feet and with socks lol.

Ahhh, okay -- for some people (like me) it makes a difference
what I have on my feet. For others, it doesn't make a difference.

> But is not rubber suppose to diffuse electricity?

Rubber is an insulator, so it would prevent the electricity
from leaving your body and into the ground.

Marc

I have a strong sensitivity to earth magnetism , lay lines, underwater channels etc. Infact my symptoms presented this way first ,a dn then  later extended  to electricity and radio frequencies in general. I must say I do worry about where I will be able to  comfortably live in the future , as most places in urban areas now  feel like no go zones. God knows how it will be when the technology exponentially extends and increases.
 
A
--- On Sat, 9/5/09, furstc0404 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, 9 May, 2009, 9:16 PM









Hi Diane,

we are on the same "wavelength" lol.

from all I read, it points to calcium ion channel.

Now, I am reading about biodynamic devices which
may counteract the ES/EMS.

Have you read similar?

Even when touch my aloe vera plant, lol, I get an electric shock!!

Have you read research concerning ion calcium channels in general.

My EMS is also very very sensitive to earth magnetism, in the sense, that any slight changes, such as sunset and sunrise affects me, and other phenomena, anyone else experience this?

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Are your symptoms similar to mine?

As the ones I described, about sunset, sunrise, atmospheric pressure changes etc???

Kooky


--- In [hidden email], ada iye <betty_starbuckle@...> wrote:

I was thinking of certain cell foods such as these: http://www.luminahealth.com/products.htm

and http://www.nutritionalwellness.com/archives/2006/jul/07_proteolytic.php

I am also interested in hydrogen peroxide therapy. A friend of
mine did this a few years ago and reported improvement.  

Any comments?

Kooky

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

> I was thinking of certain cell foods such as these:
> http://www.luminahealth.com/products.htm
>
> and
> http://www.nutritionalwellness.com/archives/2006/jul/07_proteolytic.php
>
> I am also interested in hydrogen peroxide therapy. A friend of
> mine did this a few years ago and reported improvement.

I've tried all 3 of these things. Cellfood is the only thing I've
used a lot over the years, and I do find it helpful for detox,
increasing energy, and reducing allergies and chemical sensitivities.
I can't say that I've noticed it helping with electrical sensitivities,
and I also have to balance it with alkaline-forming foods/supplements
because it is acidic. Certainly worth trying.

As for proteolytic enzymes and hydrogen peroxide, certainly I have
read articles from people who like these, but I never noticed
proteolytic enzymes doing anything helpful, and I unpleasant
reactions to hydrogen peroxide. But perhaps you will have
better luck with these.

Marc

Yes, Ida,
I have also reacted to those since I was a child--4 decades before reactingto cell phones, etc.  I am hoping some products like the Quantum products Marc has used successfully can help us in the long run.  Let's hope so.
 
Diane

--- On Sat, 5/9/09, ada iye <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 1:42 PM









I have a strong sensitivity to earth magnetism , lay lines, underwater channels etc. Infact my symptoms presented this way first ,a dn then  later extended  to electricity and radio frequencies in general. I must say I do worry about where I will be able to  comfortably live in the future , as most places in urban areas now  feel like no go zones. God knows how it will be when the technology exponentially  extends and increases.
 
A
--- On Sat, 9/5/09, furstc0404 <furstc@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: furstc0404 <furstc@hotmail. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, 9 May, 2009, 9:16 PM

Hi Diane,

we are on the same "wavelength" lol.

from all I read, it points to calcium ion channel.

Now, I am reading about biodynamic devices which
may counteract the ES/EMS.

Have you read similar?

Even when touch my aloe vera plant, lol, I get an electric shock!!

Have you read research concerning ion calcium channels in general.

My EMS is also very very sensitive to earth magnetism, in the sense, that any slight changes, such as sunset and sunrise affects me, and other phenomena, anyone else experience this?

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
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Hi, Christine,
 
Sorry my info on things which have helped me is so long in coming!  I actually have had it written for a week.  What is holding me up is a couple of new things I am trying.  I thought I might hold off till I am more sure how those are working for me.  If you (or anyone here) would rather I send it right away, tho, I can do that.  Just let me know.  (I know I did tell a couple new people here to check it for further info when I submitted it to the group.  Don't want to frustrate anyone here.  ;)  )
 
Diane

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From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 4:33 PM








Yes, Ida,
I have also reacted to those since I was a child--4 decades before reactingto cell phones, etc.  I am hoping some products like the Quantum products Marc has used successfully can help us in the long run.  Let's hope so.
 
Diane

--- On Sat, 5/9/09, ada iye <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:

From: ada iye <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 1:42 PM

I have a strong sensitivity to earth magnetism , lay lines, underwater channels etc. Infact my symptoms presented this way first ,a dn then  later extended  to electricity and radio frequencies in general. I must say I do worry about where I will be able to  comfortably live in the future , as most places in urban areas now  feel like no go zones. God knows how it will be when the technology exponentially  extends and increases.
 
A
--- On Sat, 9/5/09, furstc0404 <furstc@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: furstc0404 <furstc@hotmail. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, 9 May, 2009, 9:16 PM

Hi Diane,

we are on the same "wavelength" lol.

from all I read, it points to calcium ion channel.

Now, I am reading about biodynamic devices which
may counteract the ES/EMS.

Have you read similar?

Even when touch my aloe vera plant, lol, I get an electric shock!!

Have you read research concerning ion calcium channels in general.

My EMS is also very very sensitive to earth magnetism, in the sense, that any slight changes, such as sunset and sunrise affects me, and other phenomena, anyone else experience this?

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
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Its funny you should mention that I was a particularly sensitive child aswell , from other peoples emotion/feelings , to atmospheres/vibes/and ghosts. I think sesitivity in general is the key here. Which  I think is a good thing. Were feeling it , because it is there. 
 
A.
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From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, 12 May, 2009, 6:33 AM








Yes, Ida,
I have also reacted to those since I was a child--4 decades before reactingto cell phones, etc.  I am hoping some products like the Quantum products Marc has used successfully can help us in the long run.  Let's hope so.
 
Diane

--- On Sat, 5/9/09, ada iye <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:

From: ada iye <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 1:42 PM

I have a strong sensitivity to earth magnetism , lay lines, underwater channels etc. Infact my symptoms presented this way first ,a dn then  later extended  to electricity and radio frequencies in general. I must say I do worry about where I will be able to  comfortably live in the future , as most places in urban areas now  feel like no go zones. God knows how it will be when the technology exponentially  extends and increases.
 
A
--- On Sat, 9/5/09, furstc0404 <furstc@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: furstc0404 <furstc@hotmail. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, 9 May, 2009, 9:16 PM

Hi Diane,

we are on the same "wavelength" lol.

from all I read, it points to calcium ion channel.

Now, I am reading about biodynamic devices which
may counteract the ES/EMS.

Have you read similar?

Even when touch my aloe vera plant, lol, I get an electric shock!!

Have you read research concerning ion calcium channels in general.

My EMS is also very very sensitive to earth magnetism, in the sense, that any slight changes, such as sunset and sunrise affects me, and other phenomena, anyone else experience this?

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
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Hi, Ada and Kooky, and us “shockers”,
 
Ada, I have always assumed this to be connected to a health problem I had from infancy--later dxed as celiac disease.  I found this excerpt interesting, (the person is writing about Dr. Shoemaker, who spoke at a CFS conference):
 
“He said that some PWCs are very dehydrated because they urinate
water out so rapidly.  The osmolality of their blood thus runs very
high, and their sweat is more concentrated in salts than that of
cystic fibrosis patients, which were thought to be the highest of
all.  He said this causes them to conduct electricity very well, and
accounts for why they experience static electricity shocks from
light switches. He said they use their elbows to turn on light
switches to avoid these shocks.  They are able to stop Palm Pilots
and watches by touching them.”  Where this excerpt originates from:
 
http://aboutmecfs.org/Conf/AACFS04Shoemaker.aspx 
 
http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/         (Dr Shoemaker’s site)
 
I could never wear a watch next to my skin from the time I was a child, either.  When I was a child, in particular, I used to notice that my skinsparkled—I licked the back of my hand once and noticed it was salty.  I also noticed the sparkle was gone after I licked it and I linkedthe two (salt and sparkle) even then.  Since then, I have had extensive testing with extensive things having gone awry.  For one of those—orthostatic hypotension—I was actually told to add salt tomy diet.  (And it helps.)  But clearly there is something wrong which points a different direction than the need for dietary salt.  Itis interesting, tho, that there are also chloride ion channelopathies!  Do you see where I am going here?
 
Diane

--- On Tue, 5/12/09, ada iye <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:56 AM










Its funny you should mention that I was a particularly sensitive childas well , from other peoples emotion/feelings , to atmospheres/ vibes/and ghosts. I think sesitivity in general is the key here. Which  I think is a good thing. Were feeling it , because it is there. 
 
A.
--- On Tue, 12/5/09, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, 12 May, 2009, 6:33 AM

Yes, Ida,
I have also reacted to those since I was a child--4 decades before reactingto cell phones, etc.  I am hoping some products like the Quantum products Marc has used successfully can help us in the long run.  Let's hope so.
 
Diane

--- On Sat, 5/9/09, ada iye <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:

From: ada iye <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 1:42 PM

I have a strong sensitivity to earth magnetism , lay lines, underwater channels etc. Infact my symptoms presented this way first ,a dn then later extended  to electricity and radio frequencies in general.I must say I do worry about where I will be able to  comfortablylive in the future , as most places in urban areas now  feel like no go zones. God knows how it will be when the technology exponentially  extends and increases.
 
A
--- On Sat, 9/5/09, furstc0404 <furstc@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: furstc0404 <furstc@hotmail. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Electrified anyone?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, 9 May, 2009, 9:16 PM

Hi Diane,

we are on the same "wavelength" lol.

from all I read, it points to calcium ion channel.

Now, I am reading about biodynamic devices which
may counteract the ES/EMS.

Have you read similar?

Even when touch my aloe vera plant, lol, I get an electric shock!!

Have you read research concerning ion calcium channels in general.

My EMS is also very very sensitive to earth magnetism, in the sense, that any slight changes, such as sunset and sunrise affects me, and other phenomena, anyone else experience this?

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
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