This all in one device with range from 0 hz to 3 Ghz how good is it and how practical is it to use?
It's this one: http://emfclothing.com/en/emf-detectors/99-esmog-spion.html |
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it is seen in action in some of my videos.
no meter is perfect, unfortunately you need a couple to be able to measure everything. comparing meters is hard because some have functions that other don't. it was recommended to me by people on this forum (Charles, etc...) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG2WwuvIVZX4dAdRUhDiy0Q/videos |
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It seems extremely expensive too me. You dont need to spend 20% for a meter that will warm you about more. The VLF is probably done better for about £10. Loads of people will sell you stuff you dont really need especially Americans and Germans. What are you actually going to do with it?
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The VLF for £ 10,-? You are joking.
Quality has its price. The Esmog Spion is a very sensitive detector, for HF as well as NF. With it you can even measure what I call *dirty air*. Of all my many meters and spectrumanalysers, (I have quite a lot) the Esmog Spion is my favourite device. The first thing I do, when I arrive at someplace, I open the door of my car, take the Esmog Spion out and listen, without any antenna inserted. So I have a very good impression what is going on in the vicinity. A Detector that is even more sensitive is the Impuls Detector, which is no longer available. It is very good for detecting for what electrosensitives are sensitive for, I mean those tiny fields, which are hardly measurable, but may cause much trouble. Like de ventilator up front of my new computer. There is the HF Digitmeter and the Profi Spion. Both have BNC adapters, on which one can mount a number of different antennas. Among them the socalled *Schleifen-antenna* of 6 cm. To my knowledge with that antenna it is nthe only device with which one can measure *hotspots*. Hotspots are small concentrations of high frequency fields, the size of a football. It is an ideal tool to find such spots on beds, sofas, etc. where electrosensitives do complai of pain on the head, the chest, the belly, or the feet. Sometimes the replacement of a chair can do wonders. The is also the HAARP detector or VLF Spion, which measures between 5-30kHz and from 30-150kHz.This is a very typical meter, fot for instance wheather frequencies, *Sferics*. Because many high frequency carriers do contain also a lot of low frequency signals, and with it, I was able to measure a radar signal of an airport, my normal high frequency meter could not measure, because the signal was too high. http://www.hetbitje.nl/bitjeE2605n.pdf The manufacturer of these meters is a specialist who knows all about nerve endings, and is Germany's oldest elektrosensitive. |
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For most people ref "The VLF for £ 10,-? You are joking." ? that tenner would be the best investment they ever made except a cheap radio if they had enough brains to understand what it meant. Most people who buy meters do so for lights and dials they don't need and get suckered. What they really need is to understand what they mean. Almost every EMF wave meter is a BOLOMETER. No professional would want one as what they tell you is so limited. The reason why I asked is because I am a EU and US qualified Systems Auditor and Systems Analyst. It was my job to access need and choose appropriate purchases. As an EHS I find money hard to come by and have found meters that are functionally superior at bargain prices. It depends what you are trying to find out. Lots of meters are useless to me as they are not as sensitive as me. They are only too happy to tell you that you are making it up. This is industry standard for electronics.
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Plop Plop,
you probably has never an Esmog Spion in your hands, and have never experienced the excellent sound quality. On my website I have a large collection of recorded sounds of many elektrosmog sources. I have also a sound CD of recorded elektrosmog sources by dr. Ir. Martin Virnich, the Geman measuring specialist. I am sure that you never have heard the sounds of the Impuls Detector, the most sensitive detector. ![]() This is with its Dome antenna. And here with its special contact antenna. ![]() With your £ 10,- VLF, you can not measure the fields of this ventilator in the computer. ![]() Btw. a *EU and US qualified Systems Auditor and Systems Analyst* is no guarantee for knowledge about electrosensitivity, and measuring all sorts of elektrosmog. Although I have 20 years experience as building biologist, and observant of electrosensitive persons, I still learn every day. Every often I am met with new sources, of which I try to get my fingers behind. Read: https://tinyurl.com/ybhb7ede |
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Surely the point of these things is to identify RFs successfully so as never to need to use the thing again. Im sure that money to burn would buy you many things you don't need and with all their buttons and screens make an EHS iller than necessary. The secret of avoiding EHS is doing it simply without the bells and screens and energy and money. Live simply, naturally and with low energy. Green if you will. Save health money, and the planet.
I am suspicious of any vendor who does not give a full description of their product. Buy it to find out if you want it! There is a lot of exploitation of scared people. With ref "EU and US qualified Systems Auditor and Systems Analyst* is no guarantee for knowledge about electrosensitivity, and measuring all sorts of elektrosmog. " but it is a very good training in how to investigate and report professionally in a efficient and effective manor with a code of ethics. The only thing an EHS needs to know is how to identify and avoid exposures cost effectively. You can ID every thing in great detail for £60. With incredible precision in the RFs. Do you really need to measure the fields of a tower still. YES you could for £10 it would tell you what you need to know to get safe. Live field and mag field. A £5 tranny will do the rest. Dont go in a detectable field. SIMPLES! But why would you need to? My computer is fanless so it has no mag field uses a SSD no mag field and uses 6W and measures background 12 inches away.(in Micro watts/m) It is shielded. If someone has EHS they would surely not want a high wattage computer. They would have long ago learned to avoid it unless stupid. You are saying that https://tinyurl.com/ybhb7ede has relevance to someone needing to buy a ESMOG Spion for personal use? All I am saying is the world is full of people who will take your money and it is wise to research what you need and not what you might fear you might need. The reviews of these things are typically very low quality whit. Independence and objectivity are hard to find. |
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A a 20 years experience as building biologist how would you suggest that people use electricity? ( I am not even sure what a building biologist is. Is that fungus and molds?)
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I have tried to read https://tinyurl.com/ybhb7ede but can very little but scare mongering non sense. They can kill you and be well within US radiation guidelines so it is all lovely and legal. Like they did in the Mosco Embassy.
Have you read E-bomb by Beason? It disperses many of the myths of what Rfs can do. |
Avoidance is something that is no longer possible.
You do not grasp what I have detected in the aforementioned link. 1µW/m² can be much more devastating than 1000µW/m². The number of deaths since October has stark increased. And this *Killer Beam*, which goes mainly undetected, can be shielded with simple means. And electrosensitivity can be reversed, as I have done with others. You Plop Plop pose a lot of questions anonymously. I do not ask questions. I only give advice under my real name. |
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As an investigator of electro-smog of a non specific source, what is back ground radiations composed of???
I always get get a reading of about .5 micro watts. This varies very little in my house and outside and in my Faraday truck. Would this go to 0 deep underground? If their was a World power cut? Is it lower else where in the world? Dependant on atmospherics? I cannot find this written up any where. I have not even found a geeky ham to explain it. Is it a real reading or a ghost or outer space? What a good question. Thanking you. |
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What sort of electricity is a live electric field meter reading?
I am having a difficult time understanding why some household goods have a live electric field and others do not. Please can you help me find info about this? The other problem I have is despite having linear 12vDC for every thing except a 220v Sky box I am getting the same reading on my 12vDC wires as a non shielded 220vAC cable. Why? I think the SCART lead causes this. Is this indicative of bad earthing in the sky box? My main concern is that children playing on computers would be exposed by contamination by touching peripheral devices. In the UK most TVs for sale score as having a live field but in France they never do. What is the regulation that covers this please? The EU never respond to my enquirers. |
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Can the ESMOG Spion EMF detector do this for £40?
Best value not a bolometer meter. IE you can specify what frequencies you are scanning for specifically with accuracy. IE TETRA ONLY 2.4G only or any other you specify. No other meter is comparable. "1-8000Mhz OLED RF Power Meter -55~-5 dBm + Software RF" is on eBay ( it does go lower ie more sensitive) I got it and a UWB Ultra Wideband Log Periodic Antenna 1.35-9.5GHz 15W High Accuracy of eBay. It seems very useful and adjustable in tiny stages for identifying radio frequency sources and strength. It is slow to adjust but you can detail problem exposures and it is very cheap. £35 for both. You will need a male to male SMA plug cable to attach the Log Periodic Antenna. Stupidly this is not listen in the description of the item. Attach another antenna for low er frequencies specifically. I can use this to check the effectiveness of various screening materials. For the LOWER range try on eBay less than a £5 RE-02 Mobile Ground UHF-F 10-1300MHz Antenna Cable+Holder For Car Radio Motorola Frequency: 10-1300MHz Connector: UHF-F to UHF-M So you need to connect to SMA with a male Antenna length: approx. 10.8cm X 3(UHF), 15.8cm X 3(VHF) Hope its good for you. WATCH OUT FOR TETRA GSM (900 MHz) 3G (UMTS 2,1 GHz) WIFI / BLUETOOTH (2,4 GHz) TETRA (380 - 500 MHz) Let me know what TETRA can penetrate please??? |
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My favorite bolometer that is ordinal and log scale with very long battery life and a clicking dosimeter is;
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162865910792 Wireless RF Signal Bug Cell Phone Camera Spy Detector Detect WiFi Audio Its £40 or less. Technical Specification: Main TX Frequency: 20-6000Mhz (Main TX Frequency : 800-1500mHz,1800-2500MHZ) Detecting range :Up to 30meters Detecting sensitivity: <=0.05mw Detecting dynamic range:70Db Indicate mode:9 levels LED luminescence indication/voicing instruction Power: 9V laminated battery (not include) Volume: 25*65*175mm,(with antenna) Device weight: 220g It clicks when you go into a high rads zone while shopping etc and gives a good warning. Clicking turns off too. Adjustable sensitivity. Why spend hundreds?? This is a tough little cooty too. |
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"And electrosensitivity can be reversed, as I have done with others." please do tell me how?
"1µW/m² can be much more devastating than 1000µW/m²." This is fascinating. HOW? "Killer Beam*, which goes mainly undetected, can be shielded with simple means." How does that work then? "I only give advice under my real name." Actually they sound like stated facts. If the High Court can accept my name to be plopplop then why cant you? |
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Hi Charles,
I'm looking to measure Dirty Electricity through the air(not through the circuit). Will ESMOG Spion help? |
The rumor reached me that unfortunately Charles has passed away.
Perhaps someone could verify this. He was quite an expert in a practical manner at emf and es related issues, and very helpful and in essence kindhearted. If it is true, we will miss him. |
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I hadn't heard that, but he hasn't posted on this group for the past 7 months. Sad news, if true.
On October 21, "earthworm [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote: > The rumor reached me that unfortunately Charles has passed away. |
it came on Facebook a while back (in the Dutch EHS group).
Here is confirmation: http://www.condoleance.nl/17132/charles--claessens.html |
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