ES and STRESS a bad combination !

classic Classic list List threaded Threaded
15 messages Options
PUK
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

ES and STRESS a bad combination !

PUK
Trying to hold down an office/travelling based job has got to be an
extreme challenge for the ES both mentally and physically. After
approx 40mins in an average office under flourescent lights my body
is saying "get me out of here",(have to add that this is not same
feeling as general anxiety but more deep almost cellular
stress/warning) it becomes an endurance test, feel the fear and do it
anyway ! I enjoy the positive stress, but the aformentioned gets you
from the inside out after a while. My worry here is that I have held
down a 2.5 day/week job for past 6 months, on 2 days much travelling
in a car to make site visits, plus a stop back at office say 1-2
hours, on 1/2 day 3.5 hours in office. Well folks Iam reaching
meltdown, like most Essers if I play my cards rights I can stay just
on the good side of health, but all this suffer/recover cycle is
heading downhill. Just recently I have found that my Glands under my
armpits are starting to throb when I get tired low, (impact of office
stays and travelling and bodysnatched mobile phone freaks) I have
increased sensitivity on lefthandside of temple/forehead/head a
feeling rather the aftermath of having been whacked with a bat !
somewhere between pain and ???, I have increased heat sensitivity ie
I notice heat from Lightbulbs and say gas stove even when they have
been off for some time walking past at say 1m away ? My short term
memory is getting to the point where Iam feeling like an alchiemers
patient, I have to stay very focussed in order to complete a
sentence.....

Well its the glands that are troubling me this is new - What do you
think my fellow Essers and co... ?


regards


Paul

Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

Marc Martin
Administrator
> Well its the glands that are troubling me this is new - What do you
> think my fellow Essers and co... ?

You may need some thyroid or adrenal support (herbs, glandulars, etc.)
I usually defer such decisions to my nutritionist, who can come up
with something that will test well on the electrodermal screening
machine.

Perhaps flower essences could be of help? Have you tried Rescue
Remedy?

But yes, travel can be very difficult, as you can never predict
what will be in the environment you are going to, and what things
you need to bring with you to protect against them! (I was recently
on a short trip, and was overwhelmed with the smell of wood varnish,
which is something I could have never predicted. No ES issues
though, as I brought some devices with me to the local Internet
Cafe)

Marc

Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

Marc Martin
Administrator
In reply to this post by PUK
> After approx 40mins in an average office under flourescent lights
> my body is saying "get me out of here"

Do you have a desk where you spend most of your time? If so, can
you unscrew the flourescent lights directly above you?

Have you tried any of the items from Quantum Products for
flourescent light tolerance? I find these work better than
anything else I've tried.

Marc (who spends 8 hours a day in a large room full of flourescent
lights, and can definitely relate to this problem, as many years
ago I'd start feeling bad after about 10 minutes of this!)

PUK
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

PUK
In reply to this post by PUK
Thanks Marc - They are the usual cassette type every 1m or so, no chance of
touching them. Never used any devices but have contemplated a hat, but of
course there are practicalities here and also prejdudice to encounter (oh look
its the twat with the hat sort of thing )

Yes I can relate to the 10 min this is when I start to feel symtoms heighten
and then on it down hill - that said and I have wanted to mention this for a
whiel I can get passed the real discomfort still feel grotty and find myself
in a sort of dull phase a plateux where I can function on 3 cylinders, but
sadly some while after a real low sets in say few hours to 24 -48hrs after !!
This is same with exposure to all forms of emr not just strip lights. Also
if I am on the move the symptoms are not so quick to set in, ie not sat at a
desk but moving around, it seems that the mussiness is more of a disability
when you are trying to get a complex task done in an office (elec appliance
overload) than say sitting in a pub chatting, has any one else made this
observation, it is this taht can sometimes make people think that its all in mind
when they see you in both environments grr grrr grr !

cheers

Paul


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

Marc Martin
Administrator
> This is same with exposure to all forms of emr not just strip lights.
> Also if I am on the move the symptoms are not so quick to set in, ie not sat
> at a desk but moving around, it seems that the mussiness is more of a
> disability when you are trying to get a complex task done in an office (elec
> appliance overload) than say sitting in a pub chatting

I don't think the environment in a typical pub is nearly as bad as
a typical office. But there does seem to be something about
moving about/changing one's environment that seems to help. Could
be that the body doesn't become "entrained" on a single frequency
pattern. Could be that the lymphatics are being properly flushed
by moving about. Could also be that in an office, trying to
think & concentrate contributes to your overall stress load, which
contributes to the ES.

Marc

Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

Marc Martin
Administrator
In reply to this post by PUK
> Never used any devices but have contemplated a hat, but of
> course there are practicalities here and also prejdudice to encounter (oh
> look its the twat with the hat sort of thing )

Yes, I have been conscious of appearances, so I've excluded
a number of options suggested here (aluminum foil surrounding the
computer, special hats, etc.) just based on appearances. Also,
some of the EMF devices stand out and look rather strange, especially
if you have to stick them onto your computer monitor, etc.
But nobody notices things in your pants pocket, or something that
looks like a regular power strip.

Marc

Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

evie15422
In reply to this post by PUK
Hi, Paul,

Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble working! My sympathies. :(

As for the underarm pain... That is a lymphatic congestion symptom. If you use anti-perspirant, stop using it. You can use a deodorant without anti-perpirant, but the chemicals in those might make your underarms more tender. Baking soda or the deodorant mineral rocks might work for you if you need something to control odor. You want to promote as much perspiration as possible so that your underarm glands are not congested or blocked. Also, soaking in sea salts or epsom salts, various herbs helps alot. I get lymphatic swelling alot in my ankles and behind my knees. The salts soaks do wonders immediately.

There are various things which help lymphatic congestion. Getting good exercise is very helpful--especially rebounding on a trampoline (creates a weightless point and also a point where upward force is exerted). This helps because the lymphatic system moves against gravity and has only muscle movement to propel it along. Creating a good sweat and then soaking or showering right after is very helpful. Very hot soaks or showers are helpful. Also, I have alot of problem with swelling behind my ears. EFT and neck/upper back massages help this alot. EFT--I pat the top of my head for 20 seconds, slap my wrists on each hand three finger widths up from wrist creases 20 seconds (gently), and slap my ankles four finger widths up from my inner ankles on each foot 20 seconds gently.

Lymphatic congestion can be a sign of bad toxin removal elsewhere. In other words, the liver, kidneys, and lungs need to be in working order, as well. You can do a search online for all sorts of helps for these. Detoxing products, drinking more quality water +/or cranberry juice, breathing exercises, etc, etc, etc... Just enter a search for lymphatic congestion and this will bring up alot. Constipation (find ways to control constipation) can play a part in this and, of course, toxin overload is the cause in the first place, so anything that can lower your bodily toxin load helps. This can be anything from eating better foods (more organic foods, no sugar or artificial sweeteners, fewer processed foods, getting a handle on personal food intolerances); to avoiding molds and mildew, dust, personal allergens, pesticides; to taking supplements to support the lymphatic system (pantethine, CoQ10, and calcium).... The list is endless.

Of all the problems I have had to deal with in my life, I have never had a problem that had so many choices of therapies from which to choose and so many which were very inexpensive or cost nothing. Lymphatic congestion can cause incredible problems if it is not dealt with. For many, many years I didn't know what was causing this and I mentioned it to many doctors or they, in fact, mentioned it to me (due to feeling the swollen glands themselves) but they gave me no idea there were treatments or what the causes were! This led me to have adrenal dysfunction literally due to lack of nutrition to run them, because my nutrients were all going to running my dysfunctional lymphatic system. When I finally found out how to deal with this, it truly changed my life in just a few months! (I had been bed-ridden for over a decade! I could not walk across a room without collapsing from my blood pressure plummeting, due to adrenal dysfunction.) Also, I had painful fibromyalgia,
which I know now goes by another name--lymphatic congestion. The memory problems are a part of this too--also brain fog and concentration problems. The temple pain also.

So, good luck. Happily, finding help for the lymphatic congestion is a walk in the park compared to your other problems. Getting toxins under control that lead to lymphatic congestion will be the hardest part of this.

My best to you,
Diane
espaules <[hidden email]> wrote:
Trying to hold down an office/travelling based job has got to be an
extreme challenge for the ES both mentally and physically. After
approx 40mins in an average office under flourescent lights my body
is saying "get me out of here",(have to add that this is not same
feeling as general anxiety but more deep almost cellular
stress/warning) it becomes an endurance test, feel the fear and do it
anyway ! I enjoy the positive stress, but the aformentioned gets you
from the inside out after a while. My worry here is that I have held
down a 2.5 day/week job for past 6 months, on 2 days much travelling
in a car to make site visits, plus a stop back at office say 1-2
hours, on 1/2 day 3.5 hours in office. Well folks Iam reaching
meltdown, like most Essers if I play my cards rights I can stay just
on the good side of health, but all this suffer/recover cycle is
heading downhill. Just recently I have found that my Glands under my
armpits are starting to throb when I get tired low, (impact of office
stays and travelling and bodysnatched mobile phone freaks) I have
increased sensitivity on lefthandside of temple/forehead/head a
feeling rather the aftermath of having been whacked with a bat !
somewhere between pain and ???, I have increased heat sensitivity ie
I notice heat from Lightbulbs and say gas stove even when they have
been off for some time walking past at say 1m away ? My short term
memory is getting to the point where Iam feeling like an alchiemers
patient, I have to stay very focussed in order to complete a
sentence.....

Well its the glands that are troubling me this is new - What do you
think my fellow Essers and co... ?

regards

Paul





__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

evie15422
In reply to this post by PUK
Hi again, Paul,

Forgot to mention it, but the stress you experience causes various chemical and immunological cascades in the body which add to the lymphatic congestion, along with foreign toxins, some of which are actually emf produced and some of which are toxins already in your body but liberated by emfs. (And, too, there is the tight junction opening in the brain, etc, due to emfs which allow toxins easier access to the organs and cells, in the first place.)

My best to you,
Diane

espaules <[hidden email]> wrote:
Trying to hold down an office/travelling based job has got to be an
extreme challenge for the ES both mentally and physically. After
approx 40mins in an average office under flourescent lights my body
is saying "get me out of here",(have to add that this is not same
feeling as general anxiety but more deep almost cellular
stress/warning) it becomes an endurance test, feel the fear and do it
anyway ! I enjoy the positive stress, but the aformentioned gets you
from the inside out after a while. My worry here is that I have held
down a 2.5 day/week job for past 6 months, on 2 days much travelling
in a car to make site visits, plus a stop back at office say 1-2
hours, on 1/2 day 3.5 hours in office. Well folks Iam reaching
meltdown, like most Essers if I play my cards rights I can stay just
on the good side of health, but all this suffer/recover cycle is
heading downhill. Just recently I have found that my Glands under my
armpits are starting to throb when I get tired low, (impact of office
stays and travelling and bodysnatched mobile phone freaks) I have
increased sensitivity on lefthandside of temple/forehead/head a
feeling rather the aftermath of having been whacked with a bat !
somewhere between pain and ???, I have increased heat sensitivity ie
I notice heat from Lightbulbs and say gas stove even when they have
been off for some time walking past at say 1m away ? My short term
memory is getting to the point where Iam feeling like an alchiemers
patient, I have to stay very focussed in order to complete a
sentence.....

Well its the glands that are troubling me this is new - What do you
think my fellow Essers and co... ?

regards

Paul





__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

evie15422
In reply to this post by PUK
Hi yet again, Paul,

The "real low" that you mention that sets in 24 to 48 hours later--that is your adrenals reacting to the the stress. They need more nutrients (which are tied up in dealing with the toxins you are not passing thru your body quickly enough.) Pantethine, Calcium AEP, and CoQ10 are the major nutrients needed to prevent this low 24 to 48 hours later. My nutritionist told me how to treat this and I was very skeptical, but it really works! I take pantethine, calcium AEP, and CoQ10 on a daily basis (ask if you want details of amounts) for overall lymphatic and adrenal support. When I have a stress induced low, I take a pantethine cap and calcium AEP cap every 10 to 15 mins until my bp rises. If you take your blood pressure you might also see that your bp drops when you begin to experience your "real low". It is possible, tho, that your adrenals are not that far gone yet that the bp is affected.

Diane

[hidden email] wrote:
Thanks Marc - They are the usual cassette type every 1m or so, no chance of
touching them. Never used any devices but have contemplated a hat, but of
course there are practicalities here and also prejdudice to encounter (oh look
its the twat with the hat sort of thing )

Yes I can relate to the 10 min this is when I start to feel symtoms heighten
and then on it down hill - that said and I have wanted to mention this for a
whiel I can get passed the real discomfort still feel grotty and find myself
in a sort of dull phase a plateux where I can function on 3 cylinders, but
sadly some while after a real low sets in say few hours to 24 -48hrs after !!
This is same with exposure to all forms of emr not just strip lights. Also
if I am on the move the symptoms are not so quick to set in, ie not sat at a
desk but moving around, it seems that the mussiness is more of a disability
when you are trying to get a complex task done in an office (elec appliance
overload) than say sitting in a pub chatting, has any one else made this
observation, it is this taht can sometimes make people think that its all in mind
when they see you in both environments grr grrr grr !

cheers

Paul

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

PUK
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

PUK
In reply to this post by PUK
Thnaks for your kind advice. - P


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

perla1133
In reply to this post by evie15422
Hi,
   
those all symptoms i experienced at one time or another.
   
it appears to be cellular stress after all, crystals have helped me as i explained in the non-appearing e-mail (Flip that) Open that heart// Long process, soooo worth it//
   
The advise i was gonna give you as i cheated on my computer-fast and alsodid not wanna send off was similar to Evies//
   
Salt stone as deodorant..
   
maybe i can add the tai chi warmup exercise where you hold your shoulder with one arm and fling your arm around back wards say 35 times then forwards, then other arm..
   
they say tobacco leaves can drain the toxins from the lymps (packing it in).. also i would guess nori sheets (of the home-made sushi section) i did that after reading your post, also drinking some of the water i heated it in.. when in doubt clay it ...
   
yeah bodysnatched that is what they are actually, some of em;; (too weird)
   
deep breathing..
   
sesame oil (in ears there you are OPEN SESAME), sesame in any form i do do halva, tahini etc.. Oil that whole body, i also like grapeseedoil with some essential oil of some nice smell//
   
I do iron it up with old fashioned nerve tonic.. make sure you get the E vit (also in creams) to get it absorbed..
   
Love
   
"We'll be eating guacamole all night long"
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   
   
In Love there is no darkness
   
 
Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi, Paul,

Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble working! My sympathies. :(

As for the underarm pain... That is a lymphatic congestion symptom. If you use anti-perspirant, stop using it. You can use a deodorant without anti-perpirant, but the chemicals in those might make your underarms more tender. Baking soda or the deodorant mineral rocks might work for you if you need something to control odor. You want to promote as much perspiration as possible so that your underarm glands are not congested or blocked. Also, soaking in sea salts or epsom salts, various herbs helps alot. I get lymphatic swelling alot in my ankles and behind my knees. The salts soaks do wonders immediately.

There are various things which help lymphatic congestion. Getting good exercise is very helpful--especially rebounding on a trampoline (creates a weightless point and also a point where upward force is exerted). This helps because the lymphatic system moves against gravity and has only muscle movement to propel it along. Creating a good sweat and then soaking or showering right after is very helpful. Very hot soaks or showers are helpful. Also, Ihave alot of problem with swelling behind my ears. EFT and neck/upper backmassages help this alot. EFT--I pat the top of my head for 20 seconds, slap my wrists on each hand three finger widths up from wrist creases 20 seconds (gently), and slap my ankles four finger widths up from my inner ankles on each foot 20 seconds gently.

Lymphatic congestion can be a sign of bad toxin removal elsewhere. In otherwords, the liver, kidneys, and lungs need to be in working order, as well.You can do a search online for all sorts of helps for these. Detoxing products, drinking more quality water +/or cranberry juice, breathing exercises, etc, etc, etc... Just enter a search for lymphatic congestion and this will bring up alot. Constipation (find ways to control constipation) can playa part in this and, of course, toxin overload is the cause in the first place, so anything that can lower your bodily toxin load helps. This can be anything from eating better foods (more organic foods, no sugar or artificial sweeteners, fewer processed foods, getting a handle on personal food intolerances); to avoiding molds and mildew, dust, personal allergens, pesticides; to taking supplements to support the lymphatic system (pantethine, CoQ10, and calcium).... The list is endless.

Of all the problems I have had to deal with in my life, I have never had a problem that had so many choices of therapies from which to choose and so many which were very inexpensive or cost nothing. Lymphatic congestion can cause incredible problems if it is not dealt with. For many, many years I didn't know what was causing this and I mentioned it to many doctors or they,in fact, mentioned it to me (due to feeling the swollen glands themselves)but they gave me no idea there were treatments or what the causes were! This led me to have adrenal dysfunction literally due to lack of nutrition torun them, because my nutrients were all going to running my dysfunctional lymphatic system. When I finally found out how to deal with this, it truly changed my life in just a few months! (I had been bed-ridden for over a decade! I could not walk across a room without collapsing from my blood pressure plummeting, due to adrenal dysfunction.) Also, I had painful fibromyalgia,
which I know now goes by another name--lymphatic congestion. The memory problems are a part of this too--also brain fog and concentration problems. The temple pain also.

So, good luck. Happily, finding help for the lymphatic congestion is a walkin the park compared to your other problems. Getting toxins under control that lead to lymphatic congestion will be the hardest part of this.

My best to you,
Diane
espaules <[hidden email]> wrote:
Trying to hold down an office/travelling based job has got to be an
extreme challenge for the ES both mentally and physically. After
approx 40mins in an average office under flourescent lights my body
is saying "get me out of here",(have to add that this is not same
feeling as general anxiety but more deep almost cellular
stress/warning) it becomes an endurance test, feel the fear and do it
anyway ! I enjoy the positive stress, but the aformentioned gets you
from the inside out after a while. My worry here is that I have held
down a 2.5 day/week job for past 6 months, on 2 days much travelling
in a car to make site visits, plus a stop back at office say 1-2
hours, on 1/2 day 3.5 hours in office. Well folks Iam reaching
meltdown, like most Essers if I play my cards rights I can stay just
on the good side of health, but all this suffer/recover cycle is
heading downhill. Just recently I have found that my Glands under my
armpits are starting to throb when I get tired low, (impact of office
stays and travelling and bodysnatched mobile phone freaks) I have
increased sensitivity on lefthandside of temple/forehead/head a
feeling rather the aftermath of having been whacked with a bat !
somewhere between pain and ???, I have increased heat sensitivity ie
I notice heat from Lightbulbs and say gas stove even when they have
been off for some time walking past at say 1m away ? My short term
memory is getting to the point where Iam feeling like an alchiemers
patient, I have to stay very focussed in order to complete a
sentence.....

Well its the glands that are troubling me this is new - What do you
think my fellow Essers and co... ?

regards

Paul

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



         

 
---------------------------------
Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

perla1133
In reply to this post by evie15422
Oh i forgot,

Eat it and put is on skin, all over.. Avocado is great for it.. (also a tip for T, but for everyone)

Do it with the fruits i eat banana, pineapple, papaya etc.. avocado man, get that E.. the best skin cream.. get the toxins out also througfh skin. feed that skin..

Love
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PUK
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

PUK
In reply to this post by PUK
Thank you for you advice,

those that pass the light are enlightened on their way


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

evie15422
In reply to this post by perla1133
Hi again, Ellen,
   
Did I understand you correctly.... you use sesame oil in the ears for toxins??? Also other body oils? When you get a chance and finish your computer fast, could you elaborate on this a bit, Ellen? Thanks.
   
Diane

perla1133 <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

those all symptoms i experienced at one time or another.

it appears to be cellular stress after all, crystals have helped me as i explained in the non-appearing e-mail (Flip that) Open that heart// Long process, soooo worth it//

The advise i was gonna give you as i cheated on my computer-fast and also did not wanna send off was similar to Evies//

Salt stone as deodorant..

maybe i can add the tai chi warmup exercise where you hold your shoulder with one arm and fling your arm around back wards say 35 times then forwards,then other arm..

they say tobacco leaves can drain the toxins from the lymps (packing it in).. also i would guess nori sheets (of the home-made sushi section) i did that after reading your post, also drinking some of the water i heated it in.. when in doubt clay it ...

yeah bodysnatched that is what they are actually, some of em;; (too weird)

deep breathing..

sesame oil (in ears there you are OPEN SESAME), sesame in any form i do do halva, tahini etc.. Oil that whole body, i also like grapeseedoil with someessential oil of some nice smell//

I do iron it up with old fashioned nerve tonic.. make sure you get the E vit (also in creams) to get it absorbed..

Love

"We'll be eating guacamole all night long"
----------------------------------------------------------


In Love there is no darkness


Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi, Paul,

Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble working! My sympathies. :(

As for the underarm pain... That is a lymphatic congestion symptom. If you use anti-perspirant, stop using it. You can use a deodorant without anti-perpirant, but the chemicals in those might make your underarms more tender. Baking soda or the deodorant mineral rocks might work for you if you need something to control odor. You want to promote as much perspiration as possible so that your underarm glands are not congested or blocked. Also, soaking in sea salts or epsom salts, various herbs helps alot. I get lymphatic swelling alot in my ankles and behind my knees. The salts soaks do wonders immediately.

There are various things which help lymphatic congestion. Getting good exercise is very helpful--especially rebounding on a trampoline (creates a weightless point and also a point where upward force is exerted). This helps because the lymphatic system moves against gravity and has only muscle movement to propel it along. Creating a good sweat and then soaking or showering right after is very helpful. Very hot soaks or showers are helpful. Also, Ihave alot of problem with swelling behind my ears. EFT and neck/upper backmassages help this alot. EFT--I pat the top of my head for 20 seconds, slap my wrists on each hand three finger widths up from wrist creases 20 seconds (gently), and slap my ankles four finger widths up from my inner ankles on each foot 20 seconds gently.

Lymphatic congestion can be a sign of bad toxin removal elsewhere. In otherwords, the liver, kidneys, and lungs need to be in working order, as well.You can do a search online for all sorts of helps for these. Detoxing products, drinking more quality water +/or cranberry juice, breathing exercises, etc, etc, etc... Just enter a search for lymphatic congestion and this will bring up alot. Constipation (find ways to control constipation) can playa part in this and, of course, toxin overload is the cause in the first place, so anything that can lower your bodily toxin load helps. This can be anything from eating better foods (more organic foods, no sugar or artificial sweeteners, fewer processed foods, getting a handle on personal food intolerances); to avoiding molds and mildew, dust, personal allergens, pesticides; to taking supplements to support the lymphatic system (pantethine, CoQ10, and calcium).... The list is endless.

Of all the problems I have had to deal with in my life, I have never had a problem that had so many choices of therapies from which to choose and so many which were very inexpensive or cost nothing. Lymphatic congestion can cause incredible problems if it is not dealt with. For many, many years I didn't know what was causing this and I mentioned it to many doctors or they,in fact, mentioned it to me (due to feeling the swollen glands themselves)but they gave me no idea there were treatments or what the causes were! This led me to have adrenal dysfunction literally due to lack of nutrition torun them, because my nutrients were all going to running my dysfunctional lymphatic system. When I finally found out how to deal with this, it truly changed my life in just a few months! (I had been bed-ridden for over a decade! I could not walk across a room without collapsing from my blood pressure plummeting, due to adrenal dysfunction.) Also, I had painful fibromyalgia,
which I know now goes by another name--lymphatic congestion. The memory problems are a part of this too--also brain fog and concentration problems. The temple pain also.

So, good luck. Happily, finding help for the lymphatic congestion is a walkin the park compared to your other problems. Getting toxins under control that lead to lymphatic congestion will be the hardest part of this.

My best to you,
Diane
espaules <[hidden email]> wrote:
Trying to hold down an office/travelling based job has got to be an
extreme challenge for the ES both mentally and physically. After
approx 40mins in an average office under flourescent lights my body
is saying "get me out of here",(have to add that this is not same
feeling as general anxiety but more deep almost cellular
stress/warning) it becomes an endurance test, feel the fear and do it
anyway ! I enjoy the positive stress, but the aformentioned gets you
from the inside out after a while. My worry here is that I have held
down a 2.5 day/week job for past 6 months, on 2 days much travelling
in a car to make site visits, plus a stop back at office say 1-2
hours, on 1/2 day 3.5 hours in office. Well folks Iam reaching
meltdown, like most Essers if I play my cards rights I can stay just
on the good side of health, but all this suffer/recover cycle is
heading downhill. Just recently I have found that my Glands under my
armpits are starting to throb when I get tired low, (impact of office
stays and travelling and bodysnatched mobile phone freaks) I have
increased sensitivity on lefthandside of temple/forehead/head a
feeling rather the aftermath of having been whacked with a bat !
somewhere between pain and ???, I have increased heat sensitivity ie
I notice heat from Lightbulbs and say gas stove even when they have
been off for some time walking past at say 1m away ? My short term
memory is getting to the point where Iam feeling like an alchiemers
patient, I have to stay very focussed in order to complete a
sentence.....

Well its the glands that are troubling me this is new - What do you
think my fellow Essers and co... ?

regards

Paul

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


---------------------------------
Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



         

 
---------------------------------
Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: ES and STRESS a bad combination !

perla1133
oh it uis recommended for tinnitus (not sure if it is for toxins, do not ask on the process just catch the clue)
   
sent a link to snowbunny of natural remedies for tinnitus, was quite interesting, maybe she still has it and can post it..
   
me tired now, and if i am that unappreciated, back to compu fast
   
live

Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi again, Ellen,

Did I understand you correctly.... you use sesame oil in the ears for toxins??? Also other body oils? When you get a chance and finish your computer fast, could you elaborate on this a bit, Ellen? Thanks.

Diane

perla1133 <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

those all symptoms i experienced at one time or another.

it appears to be cellular stress after all, crystals have helped me as i explained in the non-appearing e-mail (Flip that) Open that heart// Long process, soooo worth it//

The advise i was gonna give you as i cheated on my computer-fast and also did not wanna send off was similar to Evies//

Salt stone as deodorant..

maybe i can add the tai chi warmup exercise where you hold your shoulder with one arm and fling your arm around back wards say 35 times then forwards,then other arm..

they say tobacco leaves can drain the toxins from the lymps (packing it in).. also i would guess nori sheets (of the home-made sushi section) i did that after reading your post, also drinking some of the water i heated it in.. when in doubt clay it ...

yeah bodysnatched that is what they are actually, some of em;; (too weird)

deep breathing..

sesame oil (in ears there you are OPEN SESAME), sesame in any form i do do halva, tahini etc.. Oil that whole body, i also like grapeseedoil with someessential oil of some nice smell//

I do iron it up with old fashioned nerve tonic.. make sure you get the E vit (also in creams) to get it absorbed..

Love

"We'll be eating guacamole all night long"
----------------------------------------------------------

In Love there is no darkness

Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi, Paul,

Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble working! My sympathies. :(

As for the underarm pain... That is a lymphatic congestion symptom. If you use anti-perspirant, stop using it. You can use a deodorant without anti-perpirant, but the chemicals in those might make your underarms more tender. Baking soda or the deodorant mineral rocks might work for you if you need something to control odor. You want to promote as much perspiration as possible so that your underarm glands are not congested or blocked. Also, soaking in sea salts or epsom salts, various herbs helps alot. I get lymphatic swelling alot in my ankles and behind my knees. The salts soaks do wonders immediately.

There are various things which help lymphatic congestion. Getting good exercise is very helpful--especially rebounding on a trampoline (creates a weightless point and also a point where upward force is exerted). This helps because the lymphatic system moves against gravity and has only muscle movement to propel it along. Creating a good sweat and then soaking or showering right after is very helpful. Very hot soaks or showers are helpful. Also, Ihave alot of problem with swelling behind my ears. EFT and neck/upper backmassages help this alot. EFT--I pat the top of my head for 20 seconds, slap my wrists on each hand three finger widths up from wrist creases 20 seconds (gently), and slap my ankles four finger widths up from my inner ankles on each foot 20 seconds gently.

Lymphatic congestion can be a sign of bad toxin removal elsewhere. In otherwords, the liver, kidneys, and lungs need to be in working order, as well.You can do a search online for all sorts of helps for these. Detoxing products, drinking more quality water +/or cranberry juice, breathing exercises, etc, etc, etc... Just enter a search for lymphatic congestion and this will bring up alot. Constipation (find ways to control constipation) can playa part in this and, of course, toxin overload is the cause in the first place, so anything that can lower your bodily toxin load helps. This can be anything from eating better foods (more organic foods, no sugar or artificial sweeteners, fewer processed foods, getting a handle on personal food intolerances); to avoiding molds and mildew, dust, personal allergens, pesticides; to taking supplements to support the lymphatic system (pantethine, CoQ10, and calcium).... The list is endless.

Of all the problems I have had to deal with in my life, I have never had a problem that had so many choices of therapies from which to choose and so many which were very inexpensive or cost nothing. Lymphatic congestion can cause incredible problems if it is not dealt with. For many, many years I didn't know what was causing this and I mentioned it to many doctors or they,in fact, mentioned it to me (due to feeling the swollen glands themselves)but they gave me no idea there were treatments or what the causes were! This led me to have adrenal dysfunction literally due to lack of nutrition torun them, because my nutrients were all going to running my dysfunctional lymphatic system. When I finally found out how to deal with this, it truly changed my life in just a few months! (I had been bed-ridden for over a decade! I could not walk across a room without collapsing from my blood pressure plummeting, due to adrenal dysfunction.) Also, I had painful fibromyalgia,
which I know now goes by another name--lymphatic congestion. The memory problems are a part of this too--also brain fog and concentration problems. The temple pain also.

So, good luck. Happily, finding help for the lymphatic congestion is a walkin the park compared to your other problems. Getting toxins under control that lead to lymphatic congestion will be the hardest part of this.

My best to you,
Diane
espaules <[hidden email]> wrote:
Trying to hold down an office/travelling based job has got to be an
extreme challenge for the ES both mentally and physically. After
approx 40mins in an average office under flourescent lights my body
is saying "get me out of here",(have to add that this is not same
feeling as general anxiety but more deep almost cellular
stress/warning) it becomes an endurance test, feel the fear and do it
anyway ! I enjoy the positive stress, but the aformentioned gets you
from the inside out after a while. My worry here is that I have held
down a 2.5 day/week job for past 6 months, on 2 days much travelling
in a car to make site visits, plus a stop back at office say 1-2
hours, on 1/2 day 3.5 hours in office. Well folks Iam reaching
meltdown, like most Essers if I play my cards rights I can stay just
on the good side of health, but all this suffer/recover cycle is
heading downhill. Just recently I have found that my Glands under my
armpits are starting to throb when I get tired low, (impact of office
stays and travelling and bodysnatched mobile phone freaks) I have
increased sensitivity on lefthandside of temple/forehead/head a
feeling rather the aftermath of having been whacked with a bat !
somewhere between pain and ???, I have increased heat sensitivity ie
I notice heat from Lightbulbs and say gas stove even when they have
been off for some time walking past at say 1m away ? My short term
memory is getting to the point where Iam feeling like an alchiemers
patient, I have to stay very focussed in order to complete a
sentence.....

Well its the glands that are troubling me this is new - What do you
think my fellow Essers and co... ?

regards

Paul

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

---------------------------------
Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


---------------------------------
Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



         

 
---------------------------------
How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]