ES & Peripheral Neuropathy/Tri-field meter Question

Hi All,

My friend has suddenly developed peripheral neuropathy
(numb burning feet, then legs, arms hands, even torso).

He thought it might be because his roommates moved
the 50" TV to the other side of the wall from his bed (duh).
I tested his bed area with the TV on with my Tri-field meter,
and it was well within the accepted level of toleration,
even right by the wall.It's a new Toshiba and must be well
circuited or something.

He has an older Sony TV in his room. With that one, he
must be at least 3 feet away to be in a tolerable range.

My question is: If he is in the tolerable range regarding
both TV's when they are on at the same time, according
to the Tri-field, is there some kind of a third emf field
created which is located between the two active TV sets?
If so, I should be able to read it with the Tri-field meter,
right?

We are trying to figure out why he has this peripheral
neuropathy. It's painful and he can't work because of it.
Up until the present, he has not experienced any symptoms
of being ES, and he is not diabetic.

Thanks for any input on this,

Lily


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Tolerance level is individual. No one can say what his tolerance level is or what anyone's tolerance level should be. Sometimes the meters are not sensitive enough.
 
It is most likely EHS causing it.  How's he feel when he goes camping or away from all the electrical? 
 
Loni

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From: Latifah T <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] ES & Peripheral Neuropathy/Tri-field meter Question
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 1:39 PM


 



Hi All,

My friend has suddenly developed peripheral neuropathy
(numb burning feet, then legs, arms hands, even torso).

He thought it might be because his roommates moved
the 50" TV to the other side of the wall from his bed (duh).
I tested his bed area with the TV on with my Tri-field meter,
and it was well within the accepted level of toleration,
even right by the wall.It's a new Toshiba and must be well
circuited or something.

He has an older Sony TV in his room. With that one, he
must be at least 3 feet away to be in a tolerable range.

My question is: If he is in the tolerable range regarding
both TV's when they are on at the same time, according
to the Tri-field, is there some kind of a third emf field
created which is located between the two active TV sets?
If so, I should be able to read it with the Tri-field meter,
right?

We are trying to figure out why he has this peripheral
neuropathy. It's painful and he can't work because of it.
Up until the present, he has not experienced any symptoms
of being ES, and he is not diabetic.

Thanks for any input on this,

Lily

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Lily,

You can measure a lot of things, but you never measure the actual harmful waves (longitudinal) and even if you could... we all react different anyway.

It can be that with tv A you measure 100 mV and with tv B you measure 200 mV and that you feel worse with tv A (although you measure less mV)...

It can be that a combination of 2 signals is much worse...

Anyway, I think measuring emf is overrated!

What you feel is the most important. And I think it's more worthwhile to dotesting on how you feel than comparing different values of the meter,

gr,
Stephen.






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PUK replies - Check out Magda Havas study showing what has been termed
type 3 diabetes where a sensitive persons blood sugar levels spike considerably
when exposed to emf. As far the TV is concerned, if its the other side of
the wall to his bed then he ought to move the bed a 50 inch screen really
belongs in a shopping mall high up on a wall ! As far as using a TRIFEILD
meter these are only calibrated to accurately measure 60hz feilds(usa),
what you want is a sensitive AM radio tuned out to white noise then check.
His bed if he has a metal sprung matress will be re-radiating the signals
from the TVs plus the wiring in the vicinity and anything connected to it such
as lamps etc will be humming will backflow low frequency RF, so the whole
room will be a potential emf hazzard zone.

The only thing that truly invigorates and enhances our humanity is Nature,
we turn our backs on it at great peril, lets keep human for as long as we
can ! You will not find the answer in the black abyss of a TV screen.


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We are trying to figure out why he has this peripheral
> neuropathy. It's painful and he can't work because of it.
> Up until the present, he has not experienced any symptoms
> of being ES, and he is not diabetic.
>
> Thanks for any input on this,
>
> Lily



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>The only thing that truly invigorates and enhances our humanity is Nature,
>we turn our backs on it at great peril, lets keep human for as long as we
>can ! You will not find the answer in the black abyss of a TV screen.
 
I love that PUK! It's getting harder & harder to get away from technology. Loni

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From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ES & Peripheral Neuropathy/Tri-field meter Question
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 1:50 AM


 



PUK replies - Check out Magda Havas study showing what has been termed
type 3 diabetes where a sensitive persons blood sugar levels spike considerably
when exposed to emf. As far the TV is concerned, if its the other side of
the wall to his bed then he ought to move the bed a 50 inch screen really
belongs in a shopping mall high up on a wall ! As far as using a TRIFEILD
meter these are only calibrated to accurately measure 60hz feilds(usa),
what you want is a sensitive AM radio tuned out to white noise then check.
His bed if he has a metal sprung matress will be re-radiating the signals
from the TVs plus the wiring in the vicinity and anything connected to it such
as lamps etc will be humming will backflow low frequency RF, so the whole
room will be a potential emf hazzard zone.

The only thing that truly invigorates and enhances our humanity is Nature,
we turn our backs on it at great peril, lets keep human for as long as we
can ! You will not find the answer in the black abyss of a TV screen.


In a message dated 17/06/2010 01:26:56 GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

We are trying to figure out why he has this peripheral
> neuropathy. It's painful and he can't work because of it.
> Up until the present, he has not experienced any symptoms
> of being ES, and he is not diabetic.
>
> Thanks for any input on this,
>
> Lily

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Hi Lily,

Regarding other possibilities:

* One is Dirty electricity (Intermediate Frequencies, or high
frequency voltage transients). Here's Magda Havas' video on it:
http://www.youtube.com/user/magdahavas#p/u/2/vbebpRvwd8k Supposedly
plasma TV's give off more of this than LCD TV's. Another dirty
electricity culprit is the CFL bulb.


* Magda Havas found some people with Multiple Sclerosis experienced
improvements in their symptoms after installing a Graham-Stetzer
filter. There's a Stetzerizer Microsurge Meter which can be used to
see the before and after of the filter.

* If it's a really old TV that's not flat panel, then possibly there
is some ionizing radiation coming out of the back.. Just like
old-fashioned computer CRT monitors. The front may be lead-doped to
protect the person in front of it, but the back of it is probably not
protected.

What was the rating on the Tri-field meter? I think it definitely needs
to be lower than 1 mG.

Btw, the wireless gauge on the Tri-field meter is one of the less
sensitive ones. People get sick even with much lower power densities
than it can pick up. I was working near a cell tower, and it didn't
pick it up very easily, so I thought I was safe until I bought another
meter.

Regards,

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The problem is that some people are much more
sensitive than a Trifield can ever be.

You can't measure the EMF emitted by TVs at
any significant distance with a Trifield. Yet
ES symptoms can be devastating. The same goes
for middle of the road RF meters, and AM
radios.

The best you can do is measure the near fields
and extrapolate.

Eli

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