EMR Brain Protection

Citando Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>:

> Excuse me, but I beg to differ with you. Maybe "you" cannot feel this energy,
> but very few rules apply to everyone. And if an ES person states they feel
> an energy, a certain frequency, whether measurable, or not....they feel it.
> And there are many forms of energy in our world, that to date, we don't
> have the equipment/meters to measure.



OK.


There aren't two people are alike in the world.
Each person has different reactions and feelings towards the same disease.









> Some people CAN feel the energy of a battery powered object.



All feel with your tongue, but with the fingers is not common.


>




In most persons,the epidermal has a reduced sensitivity.

But some persons have  a epidermal more sensitive.


> watts.



We were talking about electromagnetic radiation.

Static electricity is very different.


The plastics in general are not conducting the electric current,
but some may have static electricity.





>
> If you place two different materials next to each other, electrons will
> start jumping from one material to the other.


This depends on the manteriais...





You write a lot and I do not have time to answer everything.

Best regards

Mario rodrigues
http://emr-brainprotection.com/

In my opinion: YES.  I'd go as far to say, that anyone who has not been either supplementing with Iodine for most of their lives, or eating Iodine rich foods,
when tested, would show severe Iodine deficiencies. All who are living in this mass poisoned climate would be wise to nurture their Thyroid glands.
When the body has adequate stores/supplies of Iodine, one of the functions the Thyroid does, is to cleanse the blood every twenty minutes. Iodine has many
healing qualities, such as: anti bacterial, anti microbial, anti fungal and anti parasitic. Think candida or yeast issues.
When the body does not adequate supplies of this very vital mineral, the thyroid will absorb the nasty enemies of health, such as: Fluoride, such as Mercury, and also Bromide.
Those three compete for the Iodine receptors. So when the body/ and thyroid have an abundant supply of Iodine, there are no empty spaces for these bad guys, to take up residence, and reek
havoc in the body.
During Chernobyl, Iodine supplements were given. The russians understood that nuclear fall-out and the bad Iodine cause thyroid cancers, among other health issues and disasters. I put both nuclear fall radiation and micro wave radiation in the same category. Why? Because when you read the symptoms of nuclear radiation fall out, and compare them with micro wave symptoms, they are remarkably the same in many cases.
An excellent way to test your Thyroid functioning, at home, is to do the Barnes Basal Temperature test. Take your temperature before you get up out of bed each morning, for 6-7 days. If using a digital thermometer, leave it in the mouth, under the tongue, for 4 minutes for an accurate reading. Some of these thermometers will beep. Ignore it. Write down these temperatures. Then after 6-7 days, add them all up, and divide by the amount of days you tracked your temperature. Anything under 97.6 means the Thyroid is not working right. This is the body's core temperature. Do not get  up to pee, do not drink anything before taking the temp. And for females, do not do the temperature readings 4 days before the menstral cycles, during, or 3 days afterward- as this will skew the accuracy.
Thyroid issues can be very subtle for many. And as the Thyroid controls and regulates many functions in the body, when one doesn't know what the Thyroid actually does, these functions and symptoms can seem unrelated. The thyroid controls the body's temperature. It is the like the thermostat. Some people are always cold. Some cannot tolerate the hot weather. This is thyroid. Weight: the thyroid controls the body's metabolism, this is why many people struggle with being over weight. The thyroid controls emotions. It controls brain clarity. It controls the memory, ADD sound familiar? too scattered to focus? Can't find your keys, again? Candida and yeast issues are thyroid related. When the thyroid functioning goes down, the yeast counts go up. Hair, thinning, lifeless, is thyroid. Eyebrows- if the ends are very sparse or missing, this is a really under functioning thyroid. Puffy eyes, puffy under the eyes. Vision problems. The in ability to tolerate bright sun or bright lights is also thyroid. Having to pee alot is thyroid. Anxiety attacks or issues are thyroid, but can also be lack of Magnesium. Thyroid also regulates the heart. Heart problems are huge today. The heart needs adequate supplies of both Iodine and Magnesium. Ever notice how some people either talk really fast? Or really slow? Thyroid. Low raspy voice is thyroid. Overly abundant in the breast area as well as flat chested are also thyroid. Both lack of Iodine and too much Soy from processed foods- play a role here, as well, as Soy mimics estrogen.
Think of the Thyroid as the Engine of a car, and the Adrenals are the Battery and transmission. Ever hear of a car running when one of these parts are not working?

Lizzie

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      I don't remember having problems with the thyroid gland. I do get an uncomfortable feeling on the thymus gland with too much EMF exposure though. Do you think iodine would help in this case too?



Elizabeth thode wrote thus at 09:49 12/05/2012:

>As for the thyroid burning...we have often put Iodine drops right on our thyroid area.





   
     

   
   






       

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I agree with you, that there are many factors playing a role.
And I totally agree-  none of us should have to work so hard, and spend so much, just to try to live a normal life!
I'd say, for sure, if geopathic stress is playing a role, the blanket is well worth it.
I was actually sleeping directly over a ley line....
and didn't know it. No wonder I felt so rested sleeping under that blanket.
And then, not knowing about the ley line, I moved my bed, into the intersection of two areas of bad geopathic stress.
and didn't use the blanket  until a bad period of the super moon here, the geopathic stress was hugely bad,
and out of desperation, I got out the blanket. And finally was able to sleep good.
It is hot. but I'll take the hot over the bad geopathic stress any day!
(on top of bad water, on top of dangerous wiring conditions, on top of high magnetic fields from the boiler...many co factors in my case.)
add in the city water tower with antenna on it, one block away!
If you have any reason to believe your house is in a bad geopathic area, this adds alot to the equation.

Blessings of many,
Lizzie

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I think a number of things are causing the problem Elizabeth. The tinnitus I get began after a satellite dish was put up outside next door, although no-one has ever lived there properly all the while I've been here.  It's made to look as if they do from outside, but they do not.

 

It's like a program of noise, fumes, gas, smoke, other types of harassment finally leading to the electrical technology and radio waves, I've no doubt all of which are coming from neighboring houses. And that's the problems in my home. There has been so many things. But to begin with it all came from in and around the adjoining chimney breast at No. 83.  The surrounding wall of it has holes drilled through from the inside that have been there for years,  and I wonder now if at some time something was/is attached inside it.  There are also others in different places along the adjoining walls.  The council and the police have seen them.  And the house was renovated by the ncb just before I moved here.

 

I've been looking at the link to the protective blanket you posted, it looks good.  But I just keep spending money for things that shouldn't be necessary in order for me to live. Which even then is not, cannot possibly be in comfort.

 

Maureen

England

 

 

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to both Paul and Maureen,

I came across this info the other day.

Its from:

EMFSensitivity.org



B) Telephones



Telephones are likely to be a

primary problem in your house. Some countries (e.g. in Europe) require houses

to install major telecom equipment in your residence. You will need to unplug and

remove all fuses that are inside this telecom box. You may also have a fuse for

this telecom equipment in your main fuse box that you will need to switch off.

It is likely that your phone will still work with all of this telecom equipment

turned off.



Lizzie



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Paul,



You could try wearing a wrist band to expel some of the energy from the shielding so it doesn't accumulate and cause you problems. I just drop mine to the floor figuring it will go to ground, and it does help. I bought some pure silver wire from ebay which wasn't expensive and just fixed it to the end to make it heavier and more conductive.



Something that may help with the low elf signals is to wear ear defenders. You can get aluminium sticky tape from Halfords, to cover the ear cups and make them more shielded against what comes against you. I often wear mine for sleeping as well.



I've been taking increased iodene for months and using externally on a nodule that came up on my neck. I noted today that the dents and ridges that had formed on my fingernails seem to be a lot better. They looked ugly and were about 1/4" across and 1/3" down my nail. Below them were small raised whitish bumps, but they look much better and apart from my thumb nails are almost gone.



Along with a nodule that came up on my neck I also had lots of small hard bumps on my throat and neck which have gone. I keep treating the nodule and it seems to be smaller, although it does fluctuate with conditions.



All the best to you Paul



Maureen



England



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> Firstly I am in a hell of a state ! secondly I am in the uk. - Despite what



> I have said I do use th following some nights - make a bandana



> out of high



> performance silver mesh, put a pillow case over my head then place the



> bandana over the pillowcase and then fold the remaining draped



> section of the



> pillow case back over the bandana so that the silver mesh is



> not in direct



> contact with my scalp and then the pillow case protects



> somewhat the mesh,



> if you see what I mean. I have got some issues with this as



> explained ie



> it is possible that the mesh captures some emr and re-radiates



> it about my



> head such as low frequency signals in the air, but somehow it acts as a



> propholactic anyhow. I also have some issues with breathing to



> close to the



> mesh as something tells me that the metal content could wear



> off and end up



> in your lungs ? who knows what the long term issues of that would be.



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Thanks, but what about the thymus gland?

Elizabeth thode wrote thus at 01:06 13/05/2012:

The thymus gland is also very important.

There are differing opinions on this, and very few companies that I've come across, recommend treating the Thymus.
(As an aside, I do tap on my Thymus, to stimulate it.)
but stop and think about this: Neck- Thyroid
And the breasts are the body's largest storehouse for Iodine.
When the thyroid lacks Iodine, it "borrows" Iodine from the breast.
What is in between the Thyroid and the breast?
the thymus gland!
Iodine is needed.

LIzzie
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      Thanks, but what about the thymus gland?



Elizabeth thode wrote thus at 01:06 13/05/2012:



>In my opinion: YES.  I'd go as far to say, that anyone who has not been either supplementing with Iodine for most of their lives, or eating Iodine rich foods,

>when tested, would show severe Iodine deficiencies. All who are living in this mass poisoned climate would be wise to nurture their Thyroid glands.

>When the body has adequate stores/supplies of Iodine, one of the functions the Thyroid does, is to cleanse the blood every twenty minutes. Iodine has many

>healing qualities, such as: anti bacterial, anti microbial, anti fungal and anti parasitic. Think candida or yeast issues.

>When the body does not adequate supplies of this very vital mineral, the thyroid will absorb the nasty enemies of health, such as: Fluoride, such as Mercury, and also Bromide.

>Those three compete for the Iodine receptors. So when the body/ and thyroid have an abundant supply of Iodine, there are no empty spaces for these bad guys, to take up residence, and reek

>havoc in the body.

>During Chernobyl, Iodine supplements were given. The russians understood that nuclear fall-out and the bad Iodine cause thyroid cancers, among other health issues and disasters. I put both nuclear fall radiation and micro wave radiation in the same category. Why? Because when you read the symptoms of nuclear radiation fall out, and compare them with micro wave symptoms, they are remarkably the same in many cases.

>An excellent way to test your Thyroid functioning, at home, is to do the Barnes Basal Temperature test. Take your temperature before you get up out of bed each morning, for 6-7 days. If using a digital thermometer, leave it in the mouth, under the tongue, for 4 minutes for an accurate reading. Some of these thermometers will beep. Ignore it. Write down these temperatures. Then after 6-7 days, add them all up, and divide by the amount of days you tracked your temperature. Anything under 97.6 means the Thyroid is not working right. This is the body's core temperature. Do not get  up to pee, do not drink anything before taking the temp. And for females, do not do the temperature readings 4 days before the menstral cycles, during, or 3 days afterward- as this will skew the accuracy.

>Thyroid issues can be very subtle for many. And as the Thyroid controls and regulates many functions in the body, when one doesn't know what the Thyroid actually does, these functions and symptoms can seem unrelated. The thyroid controls the body's temperature. It is the like the thermostat. Some people are always cold. Some cannot tolerate the hot weather. This is thyroid. Weight: the thyroid controls the body's metabolism, this is why many people struggle with being over weight. The thyroid controls emotions. It controls brain clarity. It controls the memory, ADD sound familiar? too scattered to focus? Can't find your keys, again? Candida and yeast issues are thyroid related. When the thyroid functioning goes down, the yeast counts go up. Hair, thinning, lifeless, is thyroid. Eyebrows- if the ends are very sparse or missing, this is a really under functioning thyroid. Puffy eyes, puffy under the eyes. Vision problems. The in ability to tolerate bright sun or bright lights is also thyroid. Having to pee alot is thyroid. Anxiety attacks or issues are thyroid, but can also be lack of Magnesium. Thyroid also regulates the heart. Heart problems are huge today. The heart needs adequate supplies of both Iodine and Magnesium. Ever notice how some people either talk really fast? Or really slow? Thyroid. Low raspy voice is thyroid. Overly abundant in the breast area as well as flat chested are also thyroid. Both lack of Iodine and too much Soy from processed foods- play a role here, as well, as Soy mimics estrogen.

>Think of the Thyroid as the Engine of a car, and the Adrenals are the Battery and transmission. Ever hear of a car running when one of these parts are not working?

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>Lizzie





   
     

   
   






       

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OK. Anyhow, I've got someone, who's going to UK soon, to get Magnescent for me.

Elizabeth thode wrote thus at 11:47 13/05/2012:

On May 13, Kumara Bhikkhu <[hidden email]> wrote:
> OK. Anyhow, I've got someone, who's going to UK soon, to get Magnescent for me.

Heh, heh... someone should probably note here that there haven't been many
(if any?) reports here of any ES improvements due to taking Magnescent
(unless I've missed them?).  Seems a bit more like Lizzie's personal
obsession, rather than something that works for ES.

Marc

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:


> Heh, heh... someone should probably note here that there haven't been many
> (if any?) reports here of any ES improvements due to taking Magnescent
> (unless I've missed them?).  Seems a bit more like Lizzie's personal
> obsession, rather than something that works for ES.



I've been taking the Nutri-med Adrenal Cortex product and the Magnescent iodine for the past 8 weeks and my experience has been that it doesn't at this point take away my being able to feel the EMF's.  What is has done is given me more energy and more resilience to the effects of the EMFs, i.e., less fatigue after exposure. I suspect that any further improvement will take time.

Jim

I'm talking about Iodine. This just happens to be the brand I find the most effective.
(Besides the original Lugol's, which is now prescription only, but was sold over the
counter in my state, 6 years ago.)


As for this being my obsession? Then I consider myself in excellent company.
Read:


www.newsmaxhealth.com/...health/...Brownstein_iodine/.../405353.h


In his healthcare practice, he’s found 96 percent of the
5,000 patients tested are iodine deficient, and that’s a problem.

“Every single cell in the body needs and utilizes iodine
to function optimally,” says Brownstein,
author of the book, “Iodine: Why You
Need It, Why You Can’t Live Without It.” “The white blood cells can’t guard
against infection without adequate amounts of iodine. You can’t produce a
hormone in the body without iodine.

See also:
iodine.imva.info/index.php/iodine-dosages/



Note: There are many factors that play a role in ES and other chronic health issues.


And being deficient in Iodine is one of them. What two glands in the body manufacture hormones?
The Thyroid and the Adrenals. (No, they are not the only ones, but they are important ones.)
Both of these are crucial to a strong immune system.
Those two glands are like the engine and transmission of a car. Yes, a car will run if low on oil
or low on trans fluid. But what happens when these fluids run dry?

Lizzie

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      On May 13, Kumara Bhikkhu <[hidden email]> wrote:

> OK. Anyhow, I've got someone, who's going to UK soon, to get Magnescent for me.



Heh, heh... someone should probably note here that there haven't been many

(if any?) reports here of any ES improvements due to taking Magnescent

(unless I've missed them?).  Seems a bit more like Lizzie's personal

obsession, rather than something that works for ES.



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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Thanks Jim!
IN those article links I posted, it says it can take quite a bit of time to fully
restore the body's Iodine stores. So it sounds like you're on your way.
Glad to hear my suggestions helped.
I think most of us would agree that the only way to "cure" ES, is to rid our world of this
dangerous technology. The next best thing is to make our immune systems as strong as
possible.
There are many who try the Iodine without adequately supporting the adrenals, and do not
have good success. And some who are taking adrenal support, but I've seen quite a few of
these products that do not contain either the raw adrenal glandular cortex or the product
does not contain high enough amts of the Cortex. The cortex is the active part.

Lizzie

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--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:



> Heh, heh... someone should probably note here that there haven't been many

> (if any?) reports here of any ES improvements due to taking Magnescent

> (unless I've missed them?).  Seems a bit more like Lizzie's personal

> obsession, rather than something that works for ES.



I've been taking the Nutri-med Adrenal Cortex product and the Magnescent iodine for the past 8 weeks and my experience has been that it doesn't at this point take away my being able to feel the EMF's.  What is has done is given me more energy and more resilience to the effects of the EMFs, i.e., less fatigue after exposure. I suspect that any further improvement will take time.



Jim





   
     

   
   






       

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Wow, Lizzie, sounds like me, especially the eyebrows thinning at the ends.
I wonder what would be the best supplement for this? I have Thyroid Helper and Iodine drops but not noticing much except being a little nervous. I also have Natural Sources raw Thyroid.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

Have you tried taking any Adrenal support?
My experience (and my opinion) are this: its common for those with Low thyroids to also have low adrenals.
These two glands work together. They are like best friends.
Feeling a little nervous may be that the adrenals need support. As I've said, the adrenals MAKE the hormones
that allow the body to metabolize the thyroid support. So what happens is, if adrenals are low, and a person tries
taking the thyroid, they end up getting a built up, of the thyroid, its not being used by the body.
Common, very common.
This is what I do: I take both thyroid and adrenal support.
I take: the Thyroid Helper plus Iodine plus raw glandular porccine from www.nutri-meds.com
I also take: Cortex from nutri-meds, plus Holy Basil capsules from www.organicindia.com
For me, this works quite well.
In my case, I know I had both low thyroid and adrenals, and didn't feel very good on just the thyroid.
It was when I added the adrenal stuff that I felt a lot better.

Hope this helps. I mention specific brands only because these are the ones that worked for me, and for other people I know.
I've taken cheaper ones, with no luck. So have my friends.
Lizzie
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      Wow, Lizzie, sounds like me, especially the eyebrows thinning at the ends.

I wonder what would be the best supplement for this? I have Thyroid Helper and Iodine drops but not noticing much except being a little nervous. I also have Natural Sources raw Thyroid.

Steve



--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

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> In my opinion: YES.  I'd go as far to say, that anyone who has not been either supplementing with Iodine for most of their lives, or eating Iodine rich foods,

> when tested, would show severe Iodine deficiencies. All who are living in this mass poisoned climate would be wise to nurture their Thyroid glands.

> When the body has adequate stores/supplies of Iodine, one of the functions the Thyroid does, is to cleanse the blood every twenty minutes. Iodine has many

> healing qualities, such as: anti bacterial, anti microbial, anti fungal and anti parasitic. Think candida or yeast issues.

> When the body does not adequate supplies of this very vital mineral, the thyroid will absorb the nasty enemies of health, such as: Fluoride, such as Mercury, and also Bromide.

> Those three compete for the Iodine receptors. So when the body/ and thyroid have an abundant supply of Iodine, there are no empty spaces for these bad guys, to take up residence, and reek

> havoc in the body.

> During Chernobyl, Iodine supplements were given. The russians understood that nuclear fall-out and the bad Iodine cause thyroid cancers, among other health issues and disasters. I put both nuclear fall radiation and micro wave radiation in the same category. Why? Because when you read the symptoms of nuclear radiation fall out, and compare them with micro wave symptoms, they are remarkably the same in many cases.

> An excellent way to test your Thyroid functioning, at home, is to do the Barnes Basal Temperature test. Take your temperature before you get up out of bed each morning, for 6-7 days. If using a digital thermometer, leave it in the mouth, under the tongue, for 4 minutes for an accurate reading. Some of these thermometers will beep. Ignore it. Write down these temperatures. Then after 6-7 days, add them all up, and divide by the amount of days you tracked your temperature. Anything under 97.6 means the Thyroid is not working right. This is the body's core temperature. Do not get  up to pee, do not drink anything before taking the temp. And for females, do not do the temperature readings 4 days before the menstral cycles, during, or 3 days afterward- as this will skew the accuracy.

> Thyroid issues can be very subtle for many. And as the Thyroid controls and regulates many functions in the body, when one doesn't know what the Thyroid actually does, these functions and symptoms can seem unrelated. The thyroid controls the body's temperature. It is the like the thermostat. Some people are always cold. Some cannot tolerate the hot weather. This is thyroid. Weight: the thyroid controls the body's metabolism, this is why many people struggle with being over weight. The thyroid controls emotions. It controls brain clarity. It controls the memory, ADD sound familiar? too scattered to focus? Can't find your keys, again? Candida and yeast issues are thyroid related. When the thyroid functioning goes down, the yeast counts go up. Hair, thinning, lifeless, is thyroid. Eyebrows- if the ends are very sparse or missing, this is a really under functioning thyroid. Puffy eyes, puffy under the eyes. Vision problems. The in ability to tolerate bright sun or bright lights is also thyroid. Having to pee alot is thyroid. Anxiety attacks or issues are thyroid, but can also be lack of Magnesium. Thyroid also regulates the heart. Heart problems are huge today. The heart needs adequate supplies of both Iodine and Magnesium. Ever notice how some people either talk really fast? Or really slow? Thyroid. Low raspy voice is thyroid. Overly abundant in the breast area as well as flat chested are also thyroid. Both lack of Iodine and too much Soy from processed foods- play a role here, as well, as Soy mimics estrogen.

> Think of the Thyroid as the Engine of a car, and the Adrenals are the Battery and transmission. Ever hear of a car running when one of these parts are not working?

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> Lizzie

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Marc Martin wrote thus at 22:32 13/05/2012:
>On May 13, Kumara Bhikkhu <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> OK. Anyhow, I've got someone, who's going to UK soon, to get Magnescent for me.
>
>Heh, heh... someone should probably note here that there haven't been many
>(if any?) reports here of any ES improvements due to taking Magnescent
>(unless I've missed them?).  Seems a bit more like Lizzie's personal
>obsession, rather than something that works for ES.

I'm aware that she's the only one here talking about it. Like you do with all those gadgets, I'm testing. Besides, I've got a good hunch on this.

kb  

That's what I expect it to do, Jim. Good to hear of another positive report. My thymus gland tend to get strained with high EMF exposure. I intend to drip directly on the skin over the gland.

sradv777 wrote thus at 23:59 13/05/2012:
>I've been taking the Nutri-med Adrenal Cortex product and the Magnescent iodine for the past 8 weeks and my experience has been that it doesn't at this point take away my being able to feel the EMF's.  What is has done is given me more energy and more resilience to the effects of the EMFs, i.e., less fatigue after exposure. I suspect that any further improvement will take time.
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Hi Lizzie,

I'm currently taking SP Drenatrophin and sometimes relora when I need it. I also take thyroid helper and iodine drops. I think I should try the adrenal cortex you mention, I also know Thorne makes one, not sure if you tried it or not.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

Hi Steve,
A look at the SP Drenatrophin tells me it is 60 milligrams, with a propietary blend. Mine is 250 of Cortex, free-range, grass fed, no hormones, no steroids/no anti biotics. I did not see this part stated on the Drenatrophin info.
Thorne- 50 mlligrams. Again, I did not see grass fed/ no steroids, no hormones/ no anti biotics.
Relora reminds me of flower essences, may be useful, but in my opinion, will not take the place of Cortex.

Nutra-Meds
Adrenal Cortex- 250 mg.
A: Our all-natural desiccated adrenal
 glandulars are made from the adrenal glands of grass-pastured,
organically raised bovine stock sourced from New Zealand and Argentina,
countries with no history of BSE (mad cow disease), nor proximity to any
 country that does.

     
 I have these strange obsessions.
One of them is under the heading of clean food.
My goal was to find  raw glandulars that are from healthy sources. and with a high enough amount of Cortex.
Having found a product that works for me and many friends, I stuck with it.
Lizzie
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      Hi Lizzie,



I'm currently taking SP Drenatrophin and sometimes relora when I need it. I also take thyroid helper and iodine drops. I think I should try the adrenal cortex you mention, I also know Thorne makes one, not sure if you tried it or not.

Steve



--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

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> My experience (and my opinion) are this: its common for those with Low thyroids to also have low adrenals.

> These two glands work together. They are like best friends.

> Feeling a little nervous may be that the adrenals need support. As I've said, the adrenals MAKE the hormones

> that allow the body to metabolize the thyroid support. So what happens is, if adrenals are low, and a person tries

> taking the thyroid, they end up getting a built up, of the thyroid, its not being used by the body.

> Common, very common.

> This is what I do: I take both thyroid and adrenal support.

> I take: the Thyroid Helper plus Iodine plus raw glandular porccine from www.nutri-meds.com

> I also take: Cortex from nutri-meds, plus Holy Basil capsules from www.organicindia.com

> For me, this works quite well.

> In my case, I know I had both low thyroid and adrenals, and didn't feel very good on just the thyroid.

> It was when I added the adrenal stuff that I felt a lot better.

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> Hope this helps. I mention specific brands only because these are the ones that worked for me, and for other people I know.

> I've taken cheaper ones, with no luck. So have my friends.

> Lizzie

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> > During Chernobyl, Iodine supplements were given. The russians understood that nuclear fall-out and the bad Iodine cause thyroid cancers, among other health issues and disasters. I put both nuclear fall radiation and micro wave radiation in the same category. Why? Because when you read the symptoms of nuclear radiation fall out, and compare them with micro wave symptoms, they are remarkably the same in many cases.

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I believe that the adrenal product from Standard Process ("Drenatrophin PMG")
is derived from a whole adrenal gland, not just the cortex.  Also, I don't think
it actually contains any adrenal hormones in it  -- it's basically to stop any
auto-immune problems in the adrenal gland, which is a different goal than
an adrenal cortex product.  I also think you are correct in that the source
material is not necessarily no hormones/anti-biotics.

The Nutra-Meds product is (I guess) just the cortex, uses cleaner source
materials, contains hormones, and wasn't designed to counter an auto-immune
problem in the adrenal glands.

So these are two different products with two different goals.

Marc


On May 14, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:  

We agree the products are different.
Auto immune terminology, to me, is a misnomer.
I'm looking for results. If something helps a condition, I don't
care what they call it. I'm more looking at what is happening in the'
body by symptoms, by root causes, and then solutions.
Because if you look at these
examples of autoimmune diseases include systemic lupus erythematosus,  Hashimoto thyroiditis, rheumatoid arthritis, juvenile (type 1) diabetes,  Addison disease, vitiligo,
they are ALL ADRENAL RELATED. And I've never been convinced of the cells attacking cells theory.
 I've seen people in severe health crisis benefit from the Cortex, as long as the dose was strong enough,
who weren't getting any benefits from the whole gland, minus the hormones.
I've even seen people who are Diabetic, go off their insulin, when supporting both the thyroid and the adrenals. This did include clean food & diet changes, but the diet
changes had already been made long before they tried using natural supplements to support thyroid and adrenals.
Its like tools, Marc, If I need a specific part, that's the one I need.
A piece of that part won't work.
Lizzie


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      I believe that the adrenal product from Standard Process ("Drenatrophin PMG")

is derived from a whole adrenal gland, not just the cortex.  Also, I don't think

it actually contains any adrenal hormones in it  -- it's basically to stop any

auto-immune problems in the adrenal gland, which is a different goal than

an adrenal cortex product.  I also think you are correct in that the source

material is not necessarily no hormones/anti-biotics.



The Nutra-Meds product is (I guess) just the cortex, uses cleaner source

materials, contains hormones, and wasn't designed to counter an auto-immune

problem in the adrenal glands.



So these are two different products with two different goals.



Marc



On May 14, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Hi Steve,

> A look at the SP Drenatrophin tells me it is 60 milligrams, with a propietary blend. Mine is 250 of Cortex, free-range, grass fed, no hormones, no steroids/no anti biotics. I did not see this part stated on the Drenatrophin info.

> Thorne- 50 mlligrams. Again, I did not see grass fed/ no steroids, no hormones/ no anti biotics.

> Relora reminds me of flower essences, may be useful, but in my opinion, will not take the place of Cortex.

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> Nutra-Meds

> Adrenal Cortex- 250 mg.

> A: Our all-natural desiccated adrenal

>  glandulars are made from the adrenal glands of grass-pastured,

> organically raised bovine stock sourced from New Zealand and Argentina,

> countries with no history of BSE (mad cow disease), nor proximity to any

>  country that does.

 



   
     

   
   






       

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> We agree the products are different.
> Auto immune terminology, to me, is a misnomer.

Well, maybe not, if you knew enough about it.  :-)

The Standard Process products use a fairly unique kind of
extract that they call a "Protomorphogen" (PMG).  If you have
an auto-immune condition, the body will attack that
specific organ, but they will also attack these PMGs.
So the supplement is a "decoy" -- your body attacks
the supplement, which means that it is attacking
your gland less, and then that gland has a better
chance of repairing itself.

Drenatrophin PMG doesn't contain any adrenal hormones.
Standard Process would argue that if you are taking
adrenal cortex, your body is becoming dependent on
the hormones in the supplement, and your gland may
just shut down ("negative feedback") if you take too
much of it for too long.

However, if what you really need are the adrenal
hormones (short term), then Standard Process has a
different supplement for that -- "Adrenal Desicated".  
This is from the whole gland, not just the cortex, as
Standard Process evidently thinks that supplying
the cortex without the rest of the adrenal gland
is a bad idea.

But I agree that supplementing with adrenal
hormones will have an immediate benefit.  The
issue is that you don't want to become dependent
on it longterm.

Marc