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drhumrich
I am currently working with a realtor in Arizona to purchase a property in order to set up an EMF free hotel. Being that I am EHS and have lived a very low EMF lifestyle, I will be applying what works for me in the design. If there are any recommendations that anyone has, please reply and let me know, it would be greatly appreciated. For now what I will be incorporating is as follows: RF shielding paint covering the entire hotel (grounded of course), metal screening under the roof, a kill switch installed in every room for cutting the power for those who are extremely sensitive (like myself), analog utility meter installed, non metal bed frames/mattresses, incandescent light bulbs in areas that absolutely need lighting, RF shielded window film and drapes, and replacing small section of water pipe with pvc to avoid current on pipes. My wife is a Doctor as well and will be providing medical treatments and services inside the hotel to those that need them. Any recommendations from fellow EHS individuals would be more than appreciated. Thank you in advance!
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Puff
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Cool. :)

Hmm. I'm probably not common in my requirements, but here's what I would want:

* Make sure all windows block a high amount of UV (not just enough to prevent furniture from fading and such). My clear plastic UV400 safety glasses block a lot more of what bothers me than our windows do.
* Make it possible to block all light from the windows, so the room can be completely dark in the day (and at night; the moon even can be pretty bright and keep me awake).
* Keep a supply of halogen bulbs on hand. I know a lot of people think incandescent is better, but for me halogen is much, much better than incandescent. Incandescent lights hurt my eyes and make me depressed. Halogen lights are only a problem for me if they're too bright.
* If it's not a big expense, recliners would be nice! Comfort helps me. So does warmth. If it is a big expense, I wouldn't worry terribly about the recliners.
* This isn't EMF-related, but have a plunger in every room! You can even get them at the dollar store, maybe. I used to need a plunger almost every time I went #2, and it's kind of embarrassing to have to go get one in the middle of the night, or even at all.

One thing that's important to know about light, though, for lighting a room, is it's not just whether it's incandescent, halogen, LED, etc. that matters, but the actual wavelengths produced by the bulb matter. Typical LEDs people get to light their houses have a lot of wavelengths (you can't have white, or even a warm yellowish white, without multiple kinds of wavelengths), but you can get LEDs with a single specific wavelength, and if that wavelength happens to be ~650nm, it can be much, much, much more tolerable than most other forms of light. Between 740nm and 565nm is a good range of wavelengths to consider for light-sensitive individuals (as well as for nightlights for others, too). Higher wavelengths in this range are better, but lower ones are brighter and easier to see by. You can get LED bulbs that fit in e26 sockets with single wavelengths. They're usually meant for holiday use. I recommend the faceted plastic ones, since they don't glare like the clear glass-looking ones.

When I say better, I mean with regard to light-sensitivity (not necessarily electrically speaking, for those who have issues with electronics regardless of whether there's a lightbulb attached; however, these bulbs tend to be lower in wattage than regular house lighting LEDs, at least). I don't personally have issues with non-glowing electronics, as far as I can tell, except for Wi-Fi, some devices that connect to Wi-Fi (e.g. our Roku player), and cordless phones. Oh, and air conditioners, but I'm not sure if that's related to their electrical properties; I think it's because of the sound and the dust they scatter, but I've had unexplained issues with them, too. Same for electronic vacuum cleaners, sans the unexplained issues.

Anyway, when I was most sensitive to indoor light, I used LEDs with a single wavelength (~650nm), and they helped wonders, and were much better than anything else I tried. I used both e26 or e27 bulbs, and a string of similar Christmas lights.

Here's how the wavelengths correspond to colors, according to Wikipedia:
Color Wavelength Frequency Photon energy
Violet 380–450 nm 670–790 THz 2.75–3.26 eV
Blue 450–485 nm 620–670 THz 2.56–2.75 eV
Cyan 485–500 nm 600–620 THz 2.48–2.56 eV
Green 500–565 nm 530–600 THz 2.19–2.48 eV
Yellow 565–590 nm 510–530 THz 2.10–2.19 eV
Orange 590–625 nm 480–510 THz 1.98–2.10 eV
Red 625–740 nm 405–480 THz 1.68–1.98 eV

However, if you get bulbs, you can't just get red ones and expect them to be free of wavelengths lower than 625nm, especially if they're nice attractive reds (pure red looks more lackluster, and more like orange, than red with some blue mixed in does); some reds contain some blue light and other kinds of light. Make sure the specifications say the wavelength, if possible. If you get LEDs that are a specific color not normally used for regular house lighting, they're more likely to be single wavelengths than if you get a painted red bulb that isn't an LED. Don't get white LEDs with red covers.
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What a wonderful idea to build a low EMF hotel!  Hotels are a huge problem for me.  Usually a portion of or the whole building will have high magnetic fields, filthy power and high RF from Wifi repeaters, cell phones and those ever present nearby cell towers.  I bring a gauss meter, high frequency meter, and my nose to find out if I can stay in a room.  Often a whole wing of a large hotel will be affected by a unsafe high magnetic fields while another wing measures low.  It's embarrassing to walk all over the hotel trying to find a safe room, but it's what I have to do.  I travel with an Aaronia shield canopy and makeshift PVC pipe frame, otherwise the RF keeps me awake, but there's nothing that can be done if a high magnetic field is present.

So I would suggest making sure that the building sits on a site with a low magnetic field which if elevated could be from the electric utility who may refuse to take the blame and fix the problem, or it could be from wiring errors or devices on the property itself.  Do not locate any sleeping areas above or sharing a wall with a laundry area, refrigerated beverage or ice machines.  Perhaps those machines could share a wall with the bathroom area.

Metal clad wiring for the electric if you're starting from scratch.  If not, then make sure that there are no wiring errors - which most electricians won't have a clue about since if it works and doesn't blow the breaker it's fine!  Hotel rooms are often small with beds shoved against walls making it impossible to escape the EMF coming off the wiring.  And, no, Stetzer and Greenwave "filters" do not help me one iota.

RF shielding on the walls between rooms (and floors and ceilings if multi-level) - which you may already plan to do.  Some EHS use smart phones, but I need protection from that radiation.  I recently spent an irritable time when visitors spent the night.  They promised that their phones were outside and they had no other wireless.  Turns out it was a CPAP machine with a wireless card.  The person sleeps with it right next to the head every night.  It maxed out the read limit of an HF35C every few seconds.  The card was pulled out and all was well. 

I bring my own box of incandescent bulbs to switch out lightbulbs in hotel rooms and switch back before leaving, so having them already present would be great.  Battery operated alarm clocks would be nice but also easy to steal (I also bring my own and unplug the hotel one).  For internet, provide only wired ethernet connections in rooms.

Chemically safe  and fragrance-free cleaning products as many of us EHS have chemical sensitivities too.  Ban fabric softeners and use fragrance-free laundry detergents.

Please keep us updated on how this project is going.  I would be very interested in staying in such a place as you are considering making.


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I am currently working with a realtor in Arizona to purchase a property in order to set up an EMF free hotel. Being that I am EHS and have lived a very low EMF lifestyle, I will be applying what works for me in the design. If there are any recommendations that anyone has, please reply and let me know, it would be greatly appreciated. For now what I will be incorporating is as follows: RF shielding paint covering the entire hotel (grounded of course), metal screening under the roof, a kill switch installed in every room for cutting the power for those who are extremely sensitive (like myself), analog utility meter installed, non metal bed frames/mattresses, incandescent light bulbs in areas that absolutely need lighting, RF shielded window film and drapes, and replacing small section of water pipe with pvc to avoid current on pipes. My wife is a Doctor as well and will be providing medical treatments and services inside the hotel to those that need them. Any recommendations from fellow EHS individuals would be more than appreciated. Thank you in advance!


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I hear people like to use ozonator-ionizers on hotel rooms to remove cigarette smells and such (not while people are in the room, since ozone isn't good to breathe; take care with the vents, too). It should also help to prevent and/or deal with mold problems, pests, and other issues. Mold can make people's sensitivities worse sometimes, it seems.

I'm not sure if that's something you would want or not, but I thought I'd tell you.
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If you're doing any major remodeling, one of the easiest and cheapest improvements is to use twisted power cables, or twist normal Romex cables: http://www.eiwellspring.org/emc/WiringHousePart1.htm

Remodeling is also a good opportunity to fix any wiring errors*.

And if you have walls open or siding removed, you might consider adding dedicated high frequency ground connections for your shielding. Engineering textbooks will tell you that the ideal ground connection is a wide sheet of aluminum or copper going as directly as possible into the earth. So for example you could run a sheet of copper flashing or heavy-duty aluminum foil under the siding (if your building has it), from the base of a window right into the ground underneath it.

(*I had a vivid demonstration of the significance of this recently while visiting a remote off-grid house built by an engineer with ES; 'dirty power' on a properly installed circuit was only measurable within a few feet of the wire when we looked for it with a laboratory-grade magnetic field meter, but bad grounding would cause a measurable field throughout the entire house.)
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FYI, on the lines of my previous comment, I think I heard somewhere that ozonators can have an effect on the coatings around wires and such. So there may be some safety issues involved.
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Will you have internet access via ethernet in the rooms?

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Yes.

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Will you have internet access via ethernet in the rooms?




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I love the image of a hotel sign that says: No Wifi
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I would consult with building biologists, they can give you advice that is professional if  you find a good one.

The problem with  EMF-reflective paint is that if any EMF signals get inside, they can bounce off the walls until they hit someone.  So look into something absorptive.  And make sure it's not something that in reality only absorbs <10% of the radiation.
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