ELECTO SENSITIVITY TO COMPUTERS, TV, AND OTHER APPLIANCES

I did not mean to lump all magnetic fields in a bad category.
So excluding the Earth's beneficial DC field, etc.,
Focusing on "technology" referring to power lines, computers,
wireless communications. The things best described as electromagnetic
SMOG...
How can such smog be "ok" or no longer unhealthy, just by being able
to mitigate the effects with shields, pendants, etc.?

After reading about the vibe machine, it sounds like a tug-of-war
between higher and lower frequencies, discharge and recharge.
Although thinking about the strength of the magnetic field it puts out
seems scary,
from a background of only seeing the negative effects of such fields...
certainly gives me something to ponder.

Stewart

Marc Martin wrote:

MARC SORRY IT'S TAKEN SO LONG TO REPLY, BUT SOMETIMES
I CAN'T GET ON THE COMPUTER FOR WEEKS AT A TIME.
MY RIGHT FOREARM GOES NUMB AND WHEN I HOLD THE MOUSE
MY HAND BECOMES NUMB.
WHEN I USED THE D BATTERY IT ALLOWED ME TO BE ABLE TO
STAY ON THE COMPUTER FOR AS MUCH AS FIVE MINUTES WITH
LITTLE PAIN. BUT I'M ONLY USING ONE BATTERY.
SOMETIMES WHEN I'M ON THE COMPUTER MY WHOLE RIGHT SIDE
WHERE I HAD MY BRAIN TUMOR WILL BECOME NUMB.
PULSES RUN UP MY LEG AND WITH THE D BATTERY THAT'S NOT
AS BAD AS IT WAS BEFORE. IRENE

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Irene, Please see my post to Sheila (subject: Sheila, thanks for
welcome/idea! Here, more ideas)re: what has helped me during computer
use. I also take the fabric and wrap it around my foot and leg. I
also use gloves to reduce EMF from 'Less EMF'. I am going to make
draw string pants and a shirt out of the conductive fabric. My
apologies if these remediation techniques have been discussed before-
but I cannot possibly sit here & review the archives - I'm sure you
guys understand! Irene, did you have electric sensitivity/head pain
before your brain tumor? Your description sound similar to my own
experiences. I am obviously hesitant to undergo a MRI. Any info will
be helpful - Thank you. I hope this message find you doing well.
Looking foreward to hearing from you. Christine, Hudson,WI.


--- In [hidden email], Irene Dickerson <iedbunnie@...> wrote:

Say, that is like what I've been thinking of doing when I can sit
more this winter. Making some linings for some of my clothes. That
silver lame is not only emf protective to some things, but also FIR,
so it'll help keep you warm, but breathes a little.

Am planning to remove the lining to my gardening/fishing type hat and
stick some in there, and then hopefully into a jacket at least. If I
get that done, I like the drawstring pants idea a lot.

Oh, but what I have got the fabric for, is to make little sleep
sacks, with one to two layers of the fabric, and then two lightweight
other fabric to make a cover. Then it won't look odd lying around on
the couch either. :) Gonna make one for my sister and mom too. Help
keep the heat bill down I think also.

Me, I won't take mri's, or anything else anymore, it's not worth the
damage it does me. I shoulda grabbed the link for you all I ran
across the other day. "They" have at long last realized that there is
NO SAFE DOSE, of radiation. :)

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "eleccentric" <eleccentric@...> wrote:
>
> Irene, Please see my post to Sheila (subject: Sheila, thanks for
> welcome/idea! Here, more ideas)re: what has helped me during
computer
> use. I also take the fabric and wrap it around my foot and leg. I
> also use gloves to reduce EMF from 'Less EMF'. I am going to make
> draw string pants and a shirt out of the conductive fabric. My
> apologies if these remediation techniques have been discussed
before-
> but I cannot possibly sit here & review the archives - I'm sure you
> guys understand! Irene, did you have electric sensitivity/head
pain
> before your brain tumor? Your description sound similar to my own
> experiences. I am obviously hesitant to undergo a MRI. Any info
will
> be helpful - Thank you. I hope this message find you doing well.
> Looking foreward to hearing from you. Christine, Hudson,WI.
>

I have said this before but it never gets through, - not all PC based
problems/ailments are ES have you considered that you may have an upper limb
disorder/RSI in tandom to your ES ? Often overuse of the PC can cause RSI, of
course the ES will weaken the afflicted limbs and tire your immune system making
them more prone to overuse injuiries

Paul


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I tried to reply before but I think it didn't work.

My advice is to get a screen filter for your computer if you have not
already got one. Mine blocks 99% of elf and vlf electric fields and
cost only £15 here in the UK.

It helped reduce my symtoms from using the computer quite alot. You
also want to try to sit as far from the screen and tower/desktop case
as possible. You could even get an LCD projector which Troy at
electrosensitivity.org says he gets no symptoms from at all.


--- In [hidden email], Irene Dickerson <iedbunnie@...> wrote:

Another thought on RSI affecting the right hand/side, is that, using the
computer usually means the right hand is glued to the mouse. Measure the
EMR being broadcast from the mouse, and oops, I am not far enough from
the computer!
Certainly explains why my right hand has muscle weakness and disease,
while my left hand is normal.
Worse yet, the problems with my right hand continued through the many
years I had no computer and stayed away from AC power.

So I agree completely.
Overuse injuries indeed. This is where exercise causes muscle breakdown,
instead of muscle building.

Stewart

[hidden email] wrote:
> I have said this before but it never gets through, - not all PC based
> problems/ailments are ES have you considered that you may have an upper limb
> disorder/RSI in tandom to your ES ? Often overuse of the PC can cause RSI, of
> course the ES will weaken the afflicted limbs and tire your immune system making
> them more prone to overuse injuiries
>
> Paul
>
>

I have bitter experience of this having developed tenosynovitis in my left
hand arm and neck it is still with me some 7 yrs on. But I used the mouse on
left hand evan though I am Rhanded.

Combination of rsi and es as there is a synergy between them often many
hours spent using a pc.



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--- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <nonengbunny@...> wrote:
>
Snoshoe-Are you Irene? I heard/read somewhere, maybe the EMF sales
person at LessEMF, that layering of the emf fabric is not recommended
& that it may reduce the effectiveness. I can't remember if this
advise was in response to layering 2 different types of emf fabric
(to cover more spectrum) or to just layering the same fabric to
potentially increase db reduction further. Nonetheless, I have it in
my head not to layer the fabric so there must be a reason.
Call 'LessEMF' and ask about this before your project.  
-Also, There are different types of silver coated fabrics. The 'High
Performance Silver Mesh Fabric' states greater than 60db attenuation
from 30MHzto 3GHz while the 'See-Through Conductive Fabric' offers
67db reduction @ 1MHz, 33db @ 1GHz.  
-The EMF cap helps but some gets in probably due to 1)duration in the
field, 2)strength of the field, 3)Naturashield fabric attenuation
ability/limitation. I believe the cap is helpful in reducing fields
associated with MRI's. When the MRI truck is at the hospital where I
work (parked outside approx 40-50' away), I've noted head pain
effects which have diminished with EMF cap use. However, maybe I was
responding to the TV which was plugged in but not on and the cap
helped with that. So many factors to rule out....Thanks for the
advise about MRI's...
Christine, Hudson WI

> Oh, but what I have got the fabric for, is to make little sleep
> sacks, with one to two layers of the fabric, and then two
lightweight
> other fabric to make a cover. Then it won't look odd lying around
on
> the couch either. :) Gonna make one for my sister and mom too.
Help
> keep the heat bill down I think also.
>
> Me, I won't take mri's, or anything else anymore, it's not worth
the
> damage it does me. I shoulda grabbed the link for you all I ran
> across the other day. "They" have at long last realized that there
is I
> > also use gloves to reduce EMF from 'Less EMF'. I am going to make
> > draw string pants and a shirt out of the conductive fabric. My
> > apologies if these remediation techniques have been discussed
> before-
> > but I cannot possibly sit here & review the archives - I'm sure
you
> > guys understand! Irene, did you have electric sensitivity/head
> pain
> > before your brain tumor? Your description sound similar to my
own
> > experiences. I am obviously hesitant to undergo a MRI. Any info
> will
> > be helpful - Thank you. I hope this message find you doing well.
> > Looking foreward to hearing from you. Christine, Hudson,WI.
> >
>

Just ran across this, and wanted to get it posted, so I didn't lose
it. I think it will help explain why the batteries are doing
something:

"Parallel currents attract, anti-parallel currents repel...You can
perform Oersted's experiment on top of a projector, using just a
transparent compass, a D-cell and a short (say, 9"), thick, flexible
insulated wire."
(Why the direction it's positioned matters.)
http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/MagTeach.htm Scroll down most
of the way to "The Experiment".

~ Snoshoe


--- In [hidden email], "taylorjm" <taylorjm@...> wrote:
>
> I just thought I'd add my experience with the D battery thing.
>
> I works!
>
> I do believe that I'm about as sensitive to electricity as it
gets. I can feel power lines at about a quarter mile. They really
bother me when I drive.
>
> The first day I tried it I put one battery in front of my flat
screen (which by the way is much better than my old big computer
monitor) and one on the computer, well what a difference. I worked
all day at it and was fine. Before I could hardly get in an hour or
two.
>
> But the appliance that bothers me the most is the fridge. I put
two D batteries on it and feel much better. Before I would wake in
the night hot as fire and always the fridge would be running. It was
just awful to try and work in the kitchen if the fridge was running.
>
> I put one beside me on the night table (for the lamp). I'll be
looking for one of those big packages of batteries and put them on
every electrical appliance in the house!
>
> Thank you so much Phyllicia for sharing this idea so freely!
>
> I think you are right about the way the alternating current affects
our auras.  
>
> There is a young person named ADAM who has written several books,
Dreamhealer, being the first, and he sees auras and sees that auras
are ragged all around the edge when people are exposed to
electromagnetic radiation.
>
> I've tried his mediations and they help too, because they smooth
the aura.
>
> Anyway, thanks again Physician for sharing.
>
> Judy
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> Just ran across this, and wanted to get it posted, so I didn't lose
> it. I think it will help explain why the batteries are doing
> something:
>
> "Parallel currents attract, anti-parallel currents repel...You can
> perform Oersted's experiment on top of a projector, using just a
> transparent compass, a D-cell and a short (say, 9"), thick, flexible
> insulated wire."

I don't see how this is relevant -- in that experiment, they are
using a wire to connect the postive and negative terminal.
In our case, the battery terminals are not connected to anything.

Marc

Hi Marc:

I agree with your observations.

with care,
--Vinny

At 05:14 PM 10/13/2006, you wrote:

Vinny Pinto
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It makes it clear how the battery works on the items.
Perhaps I should've suggested to read more of the article.

It causes a slight change in the magnetism, which they showed with
compass. Altering the direction/current.

The battery unhooked of wire, would be less, but still there.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Vinny Pinto <vinny@...> wrote: lose
> > > it. I think it will help explain why the batteries are doing
> > > something:
> > >
> > > "Parallel currents attract, anti-parallel currents repel...You
can
> > > perform Oersted's experiment on top of a projector, using just a
> > > transparent compass, a D-cell and a short (say, 9"), thick,
flexible to:
> http://www.vinnypinto.us
>

> It makes it clear how the battery works on the items.
> Perhaps I should've suggested to read more of the article.

Well, I *did* read more of the article... that's how
I determined that it was irrelevant... :-)

> It causes a slight change in the magnetism, which they showed with
> compass.

If you read the article, the compass only changed when
the wires were attached to the battery terminals.
Without the wire, the battery did nothing to the
compass.

Marc