Charles,
Thanks. Cleansing in the sun I am familiar with...in fact that is what the company recommends. The Purple Plate is new to me. Can you explain what that does? I have several other devices to wear as well. All the wearing devices seem to work for me, including a small bag of stones, which I have rediscovered. I picked these stones out for myself. Not all stones agree with everyone. It is a very individual connection one has with particular stones. I don't know if they protect from electro magnetic energy, but they make me feel good. None of the things I bought for our house ever seemed to be beneficial. Don't ask me what they are because I bought them so long ago I have forgotten. I still have a couple of them. One is a cone shaped device that would be useless if dropped. They are so slick that it is easy to drop them. I got tired of sending them back to the company for repair. The other oneI still have is a cylindar shaped device that when plugged into an electrical outlet was supposed to clear all of the negative energies from appliances all over the house. I don't think it worked at all. Phyllicia charles <[hidden email]> wrote: Yeah, the BioElectrical Shield. One has to be careful with that. This medallion contains crystals, which will work for a while, than are sucking up the negative energy, and when it is fully datified, it starts emitting this negative energy. One can feel it. So from time to time it needs *cleaning*. We do that by placing it for three days on a Purple Plate. Hanging it in the sun can help also. Our experience was, that the BioProtect card, which costs only 20 $ is as strong as the BioElectrical Shield, which I now have in a box, together with other *gadgets*, which we all do not need anymore. I show them to visitors. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "phylliciah" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 20:30 Subject: [eSens] Re: ELECTO SENSITIVITY > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: >> >> > I dug out the expensive medallion that I had forgotten about, that I >> > had bought some time ago, that was for protection from such things. >> > I reactivated it and have worn it to the grocery store and it really >> > helped. >> >> Was this medallion a commercially available product? Do you >> remember what it was called, or could you describe what it >> looks like? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marc >> > The name of the Medallion is BioElectric Shield, company. > I bought one for my husband and one for myself in the year > 2000. As I recall they each cost $250. > > I reactivated my husband's as well for him to wear to work. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> This medallion contains crystals, which will work for a while, than are
> sucking up the negative energy, and when it is fully datified, it starts > emitting this negative energy. Yesterday I was reading about the properties of Bentonite clay, and it said the same thing about that -- that after the clay is saturated with bad stuff, that it then starts radiating the bad stuff. I suppose this could be an issue when taking it internally. > Our experience was, that the BioProtect card, which costs only 20 $ is as > strong as the BioElectrical Shield, which I now have in a box, together > with other *gadgets*, which we all do not need anymore. I've thrown most of my old EMF gadgets away, or mailed them to others for them to experiment with. I do still have a box containing a few select gadgets that I'm not quite ready to part with, although none of them seem to work as well for me as the Quantum Products and Springlife Polarizers. Marc |
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We got ours from:
http://www.advancedliving.com/BioShield.ivnu As you can see, the Diamond Power Shield in 14k gold, costs only 3,055 $ in stead os 3395 $. But we bought the most simple one and least expensive, I thought it was at that time about 150 $. But as I stated before, the BioProtect card for 20 $ has the same properties,and does not nedd *cleaning*. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllicia Hutchinson" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 20:57 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ELECTO SENSITIVITY > Marc, > > Here is the BioElectric Shield company's website: > > http://www.spiritofnature.org/bioelectricshield.htm#bioshieldorder > > My medallion is the shining silver with the brass tabs. My husband's > is the brushed silver with gold tabs. At the time, I bought them for > looks > not thinking that one was stronger than another. > > These medallions are recommended by Dr. Wayne Dyer and his wife. > > I don't know how often I change the batteries on the TV, etc. I don't > think that it is more often than every six months. I just muscle check > them ever so often to see if they are still working. > > Phyllicia > > > phylliciah <[hidden email]> > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > > > I dug out the expensive medallion that I had forgotten about, that I > > > had bought some time ago, that was for protection from such things. > > > I reactivated it and have worn it to the grocery store and it really > > > helped. > > > > Was this medallion a commercially available product? Do you > > remember what it was called, or could you describe what it > > looks like? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marc > > > The name of the Medallion is BioElectric Shield, company. > I bought one for my husband and one for myself in the year > 2000. As I recall they each cost $250. > > I reactivated my husband's as well for him to wear to work. > > OOPs! I forgot to describe it. > > The medallions are round, and about the size of a silver dollar. > Mine is all silver with a satin rope ribbon to hang it over > my heart. My husband's is brushed silver with gold, with a silver > chain to wear it over his heart. > > And, yes, it was commercially available. If they are still in > business, one can probably find them on the internet. > > Phyllicia > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > |
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> But as I stated before, the BioProtect card for 20 $ has the same
> properties,and does not nedd *cleaning*. Is there yet a way to purchase the BioProtect card with a credit card or PayPal and have it shipped anywhere worldwide? The last time I checked, one had to do a bank money transfer, or something that was less convenient than a credit card or PayPal. Also, a few of us have received an alternate version of the BioProtect card... is this one commercially available as well? Marc |
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Charles,
I didn't see the website for BioProtect card on your posting, so I lookedit up. http://www.bioprotect.de/bioprotect/en/forsch.php I couldn't seem to find the price for it without actually placing an order. If it does all that it claims, I would agree that it would be a good buy. Phyllicia charles <[hidden email]> wrote: We got ours from: http://www.advancedliving.com/BioShield.ivnu As you can see, the Diamond Power Shield in 14k gold, costs only 3,055 $ in stead os 3395 $. But we bought the most simple one and least expensive, I thought it was at that time about 150 $. But as I stated before, the BioProtect card for 20 $ has the same properties,and does not nedd *cleaning*. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllicia Hutchinson" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 20:57 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ELECTO SENSITIVITY > Marc, > > Here is the BioElectric Shield company's website: > > http://www.spiritofnature.org/bioelectricshield.htm#bioshieldorder > > My medallion is the shining silver with the brass tabs. My husband's > is the brushed silver with gold tabs. At the time, I bought them for > looks > not thinking that one was stronger than another. > > These medallions are recommended by Dr. Wayne Dyer and his wife. > > I don't know how often I change the batteries on the TV, etc. I don't > think that it is more often than every six months. I just muscle check > them ever so often to see if they are still working. > > Phyllicia > > > phylliciah <[hidden email]> > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > > > I dug out the expensive medallion that I had forgotten about, thatI > > > had bought some time ago, that was for protection from such things. > > > I reactivated it and have worn it to the grocery store and it really > > > helped. > > > > Was this medallion a commercially available product? Do you > > remember what it was called, or could you describe what it > > looks like? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marc > > > The name of the Medallion is BioElectric Shield, company. > I bought one for my husband and one for myself in the year > 2000. As I recall they each cost $250. > > I reactivated my husband's as well for him to wear to work. > > OOPs! I forgot to describe it. > > The medallions are round, and about the size of a silver dollar. > Mine is all silver with a satin rope ribbon to hang it over > my heart. My husband's is brushed silver with gold, with a silver > chain to wear it over his heart. > > And, yes, it was commercially available. If they are still in > business, one can probably find them on the internet. > > Phyllicia > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hello Marc,
you did not read my posting properly. We do not need those gadgets anymore, because my wife's electrosensibility has vanished. Let us say for 95 %. She only has reactions to some DECT phones. That is all. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 21:12 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ELECTO SENSITIVITY >> This medallion contains crystals, which will work for a while, than are >> sucking up the negative energy, and when it is fully datified, it starts >> emitting this negative energy. > > Yesterday I was reading about the properties of Bentonite clay, > and it said the same thing about that -- that after the clay > is saturated with bad stuff, that it then starts radiating > the bad stuff. I suppose this could be an issue when taking > it internally. > >> Our experience was, that the BioProtect card, which costs only 20 $ is as >> strong as the BioElectrical Shield, which I now have in a box, together >> with other *gadgets*, which we all do not need anymore. > > I've thrown most of my old EMF gadgets away, or mailed them > to others for them to experiment with. I do still have a > box containing a few select gadgets that I'm not quite > ready to part with, although none of them seem to work > as well for me as the Quantum Products and Springlife > Polarizers. > > Marc > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > |
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> We do not need those gadgets anymore, because my wife's
> electrosensibility has vanished. > Let us say for 95 %. That's great! Was most of that due to the ionic foot baths? Marc |
Partly.
Also with the advices according to the english book *Flow System Therapy* by Han M. Stiekema MD. See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina8.html Met vriendelijke groeten, Charles Claessens lid Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl gekontroleerd door Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 22:01 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ELECTO SENSITIVITY >> We do not need those gadgets anymore, because my wife's >> electrosensibility has vanished. >> Let us say for 95 %. > > That's great! Was most of that due to the ionic foot baths? > > Marc > |
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--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
> > > And, yes, it was commercially available. If they are still in > > business, one can probably find them on the internet. > > Yes, there is a whole line of these Bioelectric shields, although > the cost may be out of many people's range: > > http://www22.inetba.com/advancedliving/productCat2027.ctlg > http://bioelectricshield.com/ > > I tried the least expensive Bioelectric shield available back > in 2001, but it didn't seem to do much of anything for me. > I was told that ES people require the more expensive models, > but I didn't pursue this. > > Marc Marc, You are probably right about needing a stronger BioShield if one is ES. I don't recall that wearing it made me feel any better back in 2000. Since I am not ES most of the time because of my circumstances now, the least expensive model seems to work just fine for me. Wearing it to the grocery store twice and not getting sick was pretty impressive to me. However, if I were to buy a personal gadget to wear today, I would be inclined to purchase the BioProtector that Charles recommends or the one you mentioned. Since I already have this medallion and it seems to be working for me, I will keep wearing it when I go out in public areas. > Phyllicia |
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Hello Phyllicia,
to the right stands: *Ordering* There yopu can place your order, by check or prepayment. 21 Euro plus 2 Euro shipping. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllicia Hutchinson" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 21:44 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ELECTO SENSITIVITY > Charles, > > I didn't see the website for BioProtect card on your posting, so I looked > it up. > > http://www.bioprotect.de/bioprotect/en/forsch.php > > I couldn't seem to find the price for it without actually placing an > order. > > If it does all that it claims, I would agree that it would be a good buy. > > Phyllicia > > charles <[hidden email]> wrote: > We got ours from: > > http://www.advancedliving.com/BioShield.ivnu > > As you can see, the Diamond Power Shield in 14k gold, costs only 3,055 $ > in > stead os 3395 $. > > But we bought the most simple one and least expensive, I thought it was > at > that time about 150 $. > But as I stated before, the BioProtect card for 20 $ has the same > properties,and does not nedd *cleaning*. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phyllicia Hutchinson" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 20:57 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ELECTO SENSITIVITY > > > Marc, > > > > Here is the BioElectric Shield company's website: > > > > http://www.spiritofnature.org/bioelectricshield.htm#bioshieldorder > > > > My medallion is the shining silver with the brass tabs. My husband's > > is the brushed silver with gold tabs. At the time, I bought them for > > looks > > not thinking that one was stronger than another. > > > > These medallions are recommended by Dr. Wayne Dyer and his wife. > > > > I don't know how often I change the batteries on the TV, etc. I > don't > > think that it is more often than every six months. I just muscle > check > > them ever so often to see if they are still working. > > > > Phyllicia > > > > > > phylliciah <[hidden email]> > > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > > > > > I dug out the expensive medallion that I had forgotten about, that > I > > > > had bought some time ago, that was for protection from such > things. > > > > I reactivated it and have worn it to the grocery store and it > really > > > > helped. > > > > > > Was this medallion a commercially available product? Do you > > > remember what it was called, or could you describe what it > > > looks like? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Marc > > > > > The name of the Medallion is BioElectric Shield, company. > > I bought one for my husband and one for myself in the year > > 2000. As I recall they each cost $250. > > > > I reactivated my husband's as well for him to wear to work. > > > > OOPs! I forgot to describe it. > > > > The medallions are round, and about the size of a silver dollar. > > Mine is all silver with a satin rope ribbon to hang it over > > my heart. My husband's is brushed silver with gold, with a silver > > chain to wear it over his heart. > > > > And, yes, it was commercially available. If they are still in > > business, one can probably find them on the internet. > > > > Phyllicia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > |
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> Also with the advices according to the english book *Flow System Therapy*
> by Han M. Stiekema MD. It appears that at least some of this book is available on the web: http://www.vitalworld.org/fst-1.htm But it all is part of the same philosophy -- detox, improve your health, and your ES goes away. I still think that even when one's ES goes away and one no longer "needs" their devices, some of these devices must still have some benefit over using a cellphone unprotected, using a computer unprotected, etc. Simply by making one's environment healthier. Marc |
that book got a place in my favorites..
jeez where was the contention?? Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > Also with the advices according to the english book *Flow System Therapy* > by Han M. Stiekema MD. It appears that at least some of this book is available on the web: http://www.vitalworld.org/fst-1.htm But it all is part of the same philosophy -- detox, improve your health, and your ES goes away. I still think that even when one's ES goes away and one no longer "needs" their devices, some of these devices must still have some benefit over using a cellphone unprotected, using a computer unprotected, etc. Simply by making one's environment healthier. Marc --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I just thought I'd add my experience with the D battery thing.
I works! I do believe that I'm about as sensitive to electricity as it gets. I can feel power lines at about a quarter mile. They really bother me when I drive. The first day I tried it I put one battery in front of my flat screen (which by the way is much better than my old big computer monitor) and one on the computer, well what a difference. I worked all day at it and was fine. Before I could hardly get in an hour or two. But the appliance that bothers me the most is the fridge. I put two D batteries on it and feel much better. Before I would wake in the night hot as fire and always the fridge would be running. It was just awful to try and work in the kitchen if the fridge was running. I put one beside me on the night table (for the lamp). I'll be looking for one of those big packages of batteries and put them on every electrical appliance in the house! Thank you so much Phyllicia for sharing this idea so freely! I think you are right about the way the alternating current affects our auras. There is a young person named ADAM who has written several books, Dreamhealer, being the first, and he sees auras and sees that auras are ragged all around the edge when people are exposed to electromagnetic radiation. I've tried his mediations and they help too, because they smooth the aura. Anyway, thanks again Physician for sharing. Judy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Ah yes, bioelectric shields, pendants, medalions, photon light, and the
purple plate. I do still have a purple plate, but still can't figure out what it does, or how it does anything. Where do these things get their power from to do anything? I suspect any actual answers are on the quantum level, (like electron bond angles,) and outside my education. And if they do help, how does that affect the belief or research that says electromagnetic fields are generally bad for living organisms? Stewart Marc Martin wrote: >> And, yes, it was commercially available. If they are still in >> business, one can probably find them on the internet. >> > > Yes, there is a whole line of these Bioelectric shields, although > the cost may be out of many people's range: > > http://www22.inetba.com/advancedliving/productCat2027.ctlg > http://bioelectricshield.com/ > > I tried the least expensive Bioelectric shield available back > in 2001, but it didn't seem to do much of anything for me. > I was told that ES people require the more expensive models, > but I didn't pursue this. > > Marc > > |
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> I do still have a purple plate, but still can't figure out what it does,
> or how it does anything. Don't feel so bad, I never felt anything from my purple plate either! > And if they do help, how does that affect the belief or research that > says electromagnetic fields are generally bad for living organisms? That's not strictly true -- the Earth has an electromagnetic field that is thought to be healthy, and some of the devices do nothing more than to mimic the Earth's field. Also, there are types of radiation used to improve people's health -- far-infrared, for example. Marc |
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Your assumptions are wrong.
Who says that electromagnetic fields are generally bad for living organisms? That is not true. Round 1930, many people used electromagnetic fields purposely for healing. It is called bioresonance. Royal Rife used it for curing cancer, among other things. The Purple Plates are something from Nikola Tesla. It transforms negative energy into positive energy. We use it in the kitchen. All fresh food is placed on a Purple Plate for some time, and as a result, it stays longer fresh. If you place some average wine on it, the taste improves. If you have pain somewhere, just hold a Purple Plate against it, and the pains dissolves. Be aware, it only relieves pain, it does not heal! Regarding the BioElectrical Shield, I do not believe that that is a difference in quality. It is only a matter of appearance, of luxory. The gold plating is just a luxory feature, but has nothing to do with the working. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Andreason" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 22:39 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ELECTO SENSITIVITY > Ah yes, bioelectric shields, pendants, medalions, photon light, and the > purple plate. > > I do still have a purple plate, but still can't figure out what it does, > or how it does anything. > Where do these things get their power from to do anything? > > I suspect any actual answers are on the quantum level, (like electron > bond angles,) and outside my education. > > And if they do help, how does that affect the belief or research that > says electromagnetic fields are generally bad for living organisms? > > Stewart > > Marc Martin wrote: >>> And, yes, it was commercially available. If they are still in >>> business, one can probably find them on the internet. >>> >> >> Yes, there is a whole line of these Bioelectric shields, although >> the cost may be out of many people's range: >> >> http://www22.inetba.com/advancedliving/productCat2027.ctlg >> http://bioelectricshield.com/ >> >> I tried the least expensive Bioelectric shield available back >> in 2001, but it didn't seem to do much of anything for me. >> I was told that ES people require the more expensive models, >> but I didn't pursue this. >> >> Marc >> |
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Does any old purple plate work or are these specially designed ?
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Not so long ago it was reported in the national papers that a chinese
scientist had produced a device that uses electric feilds/microwaves to speed up wound healing a specific frequencies these effected gene expression etc at the site of the wound and peer review collaborated this. Conversely as picked up by Powerwatch the reverse must also be true, so look at our current and rapidly growing wireless environment, somewhat chaotic I would have thought, so its anyones guess what is happening, perhaps Radio waves rather like chemicals can mix to form new unexpected results etc.. so the picture is very complex. ps - I seem to remember re. purple plates that purple is regarded by physics and the like as a highly spiritual colour. Didnt Prince one sing about them - Purple plates, purple plates... PPS Electrosensitivity.org.uk have now put there message board back on line. Paul ES -P [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hello, BioProtect can be payed via pay pal.The version BioProtect M is experimental and designed vor people with adverse reactions; but is is lacking some of the qualities of the original one. It has no specific positive bioenergetic effect and works only when in close contact to the body. It workds fine also when in contact with the metallic construction of a base station. Dietrich In einer eMail vom 14.09.2006 21:39:22 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt [hidden email]: > But as I stated before, the BioProtect card for 20 $ has the same > properties,and does not nedd *cleaning*. Is there yet a way to purchase the BioProtect card with a credit card or PayPal and have it shipped anywhere worldwide? The last time I checked, one had to do a bank money transfer, or something that was less convenient than a credit card or PayPal. Also, a few of us have received an alternate version of the BioProtect card... is this one commercially available as well? Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Purple Plates are manufactured in a special way.
from time to time they need to be *recharged*. That can be done by rinsing them under tapwater. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:59 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ELECTO SENSITIVITY > Does any old purple plate work or are these specially designed ? > > thanks > > Paul > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > |
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