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On August 29, Andrey Filatov <[hidden email]> wrote:
> No BUT I CAN!!! You seem a bit reluctant to provide any real information, making me wonder if there *is* any real information. If you discovered this in 2006, why have you kept it to yourself for the past 6 years? And do you really think this (whatever it is) will work on anyone but yourself? We have years of experience here observing that things that help one person can often make another person worse. But we're listening, if you choose to share... Marc |
Andre, Thank you for sharing this information. Marc, I believe he has stated that he has been TRYING to get this information out there. Andre, I believe your "stages of EH" are accurate. Once the body has reached high contamination levels, the symptoms are much more severe. Sadly, there are many, who reach stages 6-10, who are still NOT aware of the cause. Mainly because the media is telling people cell phones are safe. And these people often are taking prescription drugs to mask the symptoms. They don't have a clue, many of them. Speaking for myself, I am very interested in your information. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:15:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS On August 29, Andrey Filatov <[hidden email]> wrote: > No BUT I CAN!!! You seem a bit reluctant to provide any real information, making me wonder if there *is* any real information. If you discovered this in 2006, why have you kept it to yourself for the past 6 years? And do you really think this (whatever it is) will work on anyone but yourself? We have years of experience here observing that things that help one person can often make another person worse. But we're listening, if you choose to share... Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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--- In [hidden email], Andrey Filatov <fiastudio91@...> wrote: > > I don't know anything about protection devises and can't > give You an advise. But, I know for sure, that no matter how much > protection You will get, You still going to be sick. Protection can work well. But it depends on the situation, if you need to protect just 1 side of your house or 3-4 sides. I would say if you need to protect more then 1 side of your appartment / house i'd move. My system is > extracting radiation from human body completely. Who is baying > protection today? Already sick People! Let say > today somebody will get contaminated as bad, as it happened to Me.If > He or She will go bay protection and hope for the best > They will die. Is there ER anywhere on Earth to help Them? No! > Well, lets not to talk about extreme. Sure there is! Go away from cities. Search a place where you can live without radiation. There are, at least in Europe. Only after clinical research will be > completed, results can be delivered to medical staff and People at > ones, thru the media and WHO - how to treat disease! Cellphone > company's can text info about Websites or TV programs educating how to > recognize symptoms of disease. This is My plan. > I really appreciate your effort. But cellphone companies know already that the radiation "can" make people sick! Also do wireless phone / wifi companies know about the dangerous of their products! In Germany some people tried to get a contract with a cellphone company, that if one day in future it would be proven that cellphone radiation makes sick, they wanted to safe them financial compensation. Because cellphone companies say their products are safe to use! But that company changed their license agreement (dont know how to call that), so if you use their cellphone and get sick from it (and you can proove it) they will never pay you any compensation! They simply said that if in future it would be proven that cellphone radiation makes sick / diseases nobody will be able to get a compensation! But they write also that their products are absolute safe to use. There is too much money floating in this business. I don't see a chance to break this. Best thing is to safe your own ass and your friends / family. |
The question was "Is there ER anywhere on Earth to help Them? No!"
A more clear translation, I got from reading his entire story carefully, and his experience when he went to the ER for medical help is "Is there an Emergency Room anywhere on Earth to help them? NO!" :0) Karen --- In [hidden email], Andrey Filatov <fiastudio91@> wrote: > My system is > > extracting radiation from human body completely. Who is buying > > protection today? Already sick People! Let say > > today somebody will get contaminated as bad, as it happened to Me.If > > He or She will go buy protection and hope for the best > > They will die. Is there ER anywhere on Earth to help Them? No! > > Well, lets not to talk about extreme. --- In [hidden email], "priest676@..." <priest676@...> wrote: > Sure there is! Go away from cities. Search a place where you can live without radiation. There are, at least in Europe.
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I don't understand then, why are you bothering to say anything at all?
We know your problem, we have it too, and you also know we all would love a solution to our health problems. Now, you come on the scene, saying you can fix the ??world??? , but sorry, I can't tell anyone how to do it.???? what am I missing? --- On Wed, 8/29/12, Andrey Filatov <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Andrey Filatov <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2012, 10:28 PM I don't know anything about protection devises and can't give You an advise. But, I know for sure, that no matter how much protection You will get, You still going to be sick. My system is extracting radiation from human body completely. Who is baying protection today? Already sick People! Let say today somebody will get contaminated as bad, as it happened to Me.If He or She will go bay protection and hope for the best They will die. Is there ER anywhere on Earth to help Them? No! Well, lets not to talk about extreme. You could read only first part of My story - getting in trouble, second part - curing and recovery - I didn't post. Why ? If I will start to pass this info. Myself, People still will be suffering and dieing for 20 more years. Only after clinical research will be completed, results can be delivered to medical staff and People at ones, thru the media and WHO - how to treat disease! Cellphone company's can text info about Websites or TV programs educating how to recognize symptoms of disease. This is My plan. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Andre
I too am very interested in what you might have to say. If you can offer a cure for ES it would be a miracle - it would offer back a normal life to many people who have despaired of ever being able to live normally ever again. All of us on this website are here for one reason - our lives are being very badly affected by EMF and EMR to the point where some of us don't have any way of escaping their effects and are desperate for help - most of us here try our best to help others on the forum to reduce their symptoms and help them to detox. There are many knowledgeable people on the forum who share their considerable expertise with others completely free of any charge in an area where other people might take advantage of the desperation of those whose who suffer from ES. I applaud their generosity and their giving of their time and energy to reach out to others in need to help them and long may that continue on this forum. However, from time to time people come on here - for one time only - and when they do they are posting news of protection devices and "cures" for ES, pretending to be members of this forum when all they really want to do is make money off of people who are sick and who conventional healthcare providers can't help because they don't even want to acknowledge the problem of ES exists. So what I am saying is that if others on the forum sound suspicious of your claims to have found a cure for ES then maybe they are concerned that you also might just be on a money making venture and might be intending to take advantage of a group of vulnerable people - so I am going to be very direct and just ask you - do you intend to share your treatment for ES with us? and will you charge a fee for doing that? Steph ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 16:42 Subject: RE: [eSens] EHS Andre, Thank you for sharing this information. Marc, I believe he has stated that he has been TRYING to get this information out there. Andre, I believe your "stages of EH" are accurate. Once the body has reached high contamination levels, the symptoms are much more severe. Sadly, there are many, who reach stages 6-10, who are still NOT aware of the cause. Mainly because the media is telling people cell phones are safe. And these people often are taking prescription drugs to mask the symptoms. They don't have a clue, many of them. Speaking for myself, I am very interested in your information. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:15:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS On August 29, Andrey Filatov <[hidden email]> wrote: > No BUT I CAN!!! You seem a bit reluctant to provide any real information, making me wonder if there *is* any real information. If you discovered this in 2006, why have you kept it to yourself for the past 6 years? And do you really think this (whatever it is) will work on anyone but yourself? We have years of experience here observing that things that help one person can often make another person worse. But we're listening, if you choose to share... Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
After many years of *try and error* I have published my *cure*, with which many people are in a much better situation.
http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephanie Smith To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS Hi Andre I too am very interested in what you might have to say. If you can offer a cure for ES it would be a miracle - it would offer back a normal life to many people who have despaired of ever being able to live normally ever again. All of us on this website are here for one reason - our lives are being very badly affected by EMF and EMR to the point where some of us don't have any way of escaping their effects and are desperate for help - most of us here try our best to help others on the forum to reduce their symptoms and help them to detox. There are many knowledgeable people on the forum who share their considerable expertise with others completely free of any charge in an area where other people might take advantage of the desperation of those whose who suffer from ES. I applaud their generosity and their giving of their time and energy to reach out to others in need to help them and long may that continue on this forum. However, from time to time people come on here - for one time only - and when they do they are posting news of protection devices and "cures" for ES, pretending to be members of this forum when all they really want to do is make money off of people who are sick and who conventional healthcare providers can't help because they don't even want to acknowledge the problem of ES exists. So what I am saying is that if others on the forum sound suspicious of your claims to have found a cure for ES then maybe they are concerned that you also might just be on a money making venture and might be intending to take advantage of a group of vulnerable people - so I am going to be very direct and just ask you - do you intend to share your treatment for ES with us? and will you charge a fee for doing that? Steph ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 16:42 Subject: RE: [eSens] EHS Andre, Thank you for sharing this information. Marc, I believe he has stated that he has been TRYING to get this information out there. Andre, I believe your "stages of EH" are accurate. Once the body has reached high contamination levels, the symptoms are much more severe. Sadly, there are many, who reach stages 6-10, who are still NOT aware of the cause. Mainly because the media is telling people cell phones are safe. And these people often are taking prescription drugs to mask the symptoms. They don't have a clue, many of them. Speaking for myself, I am very interested in your information. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:15:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS On August 29, Andrey Filatov <[hidden email]> wrote: > No BUT I CAN!!! You seem a bit reluctant to provide any real information, making me wonder if there *is* any real information. If you discovered this in 2006, why have you kept it to yourself for the past 6 years? And do you really think this (whatever it is) will work on anyone but yourself? We have years of experience here observing that things that help one person can often make another person worse. But we're listening, if you choose to share... Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On August 31, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:
> After many years of *try and error* I have published my *cure*, > with which many people are in a much better situation. Yes, and over the years, I've seen several people report that they were able to cure themselves of their own ES. The problem is, whatever they did to cure themselves may not work for everyone else, or it may be something that someone else cannot afford or will refuse to try. But at least those people were forthcoming about what they actually did to cure themselves! Marc |
Well all we can hope is that Andrey will post again and in view of what several forum members have written - all along the same lines - hope also that he will share his "treatment" with us so that we can at least consider it and see whether it might work for us and even try it and see what results we get - all depends on Andrey....
________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, 31 August 2012, 17:17 Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS On August 31, charles <[hidden email]> wrote: > After many years of *try and error* I have published my *cure*, > with which many people are in a much better situation. Yes, and over the years, I've seen several people report that they were able to cure themselves of their own ES. The problem is, whatever they did to cure themselves may not work for everyone else, or it may be something that someone else cannot afford or will refuse to try. But at least those people were forthcoming about what they actually did to cure themselves! Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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maybe i might have missed it but where have you published your cure Charles? can you signpost me to it ?
________________________________ From: charles <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, 31 August 2012, 17:11 Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS After many years of *try and error* I have published my *cure*, with which many people are in a much better situation. http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephanie Smith To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS Hi Andre I too am very interested in what you might have to say. If you can offer a cure for ES it would be a miracle - it would offer back a normal life to many people who have despaired of ever being able to live normally ever again. All of us on this website are here for one reason - our lives are being very badly affected by EMF and EMR to the point where some of us don't have any way of escaping their effects and are desperate for help - most of us here try our best to help others on the forum to reduce their symptoms and help them to detox. There are many knowledgeable people on the forum who share their considerable expertise with others completely free of any charge in an area where other people might take advantage of the desperation of those whose who suffer from ES. I applaud their generosity and their giving of their time and energy to reach out to others in need to help them and long may that continue on this forum. However, from time to time people come on here - for one time only - and when they do they are posting news of protection devices and "cures" for ES, pretending to be members of this forum when all they really want to do is make money off of people who are sick and who conventional healthcare providers can't help because they don't even want to acknowledge the problem of ES exists. So what I am saying is that if others on the forum sound suspicious of your claims to have found a cure for ES then maybe they are concerned that you also might just be on a money making venture and might be intending to take advantage of a group of vulnerable people - so I am going to be very direct and just ask you - do you intend to share your treatment for ES with us? and will you charge a fee for doing that? Steph ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 16:42 Subject: RE: [eSens] EHS Andre, Thank you for sharing this information. Marc, I believe he has stated that he has been TRYING to get this information out there. Andre, I believe your "stages of EH" are accurate. Once the body has reached high contamination levels, the symptoms are much more severe. Sadly, there are many, who reach stages 6-10, who are still NOT aware of the cause. Mainly because the media is telling people cell phones are safe. And these people often are taking prescription drugs to mask the symptoms. They don't have a clue, many of them. Speaking for myself, I am very interested in your information. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:15:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS On August 29, Andrey Filatov <[hidden email]> wrote: > No BUT I CAN!!! You seem a bit reluctant to provide any real information, making me wonder if there *is* any real information. If you discovered this in 2006, why have you kept it to yourself for the past 6 years? And do you really think this (whatever it is) will work on anyone but yourself? We have years of experience here observing that things that help one person can often make another person worse. But we're listening, if you choose to share... Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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As said: *There are many roads to Rome.*
My system is based on repairing the damaged immune system. 1. Cleanse the liver, because this is the first stress organ, which cannot cope anymore. 2. Get rid of heavy metals and other poisons. 3. Get the Calcium in the body boosted. 4. Kill parasites, worms, bacteria, fungi and virusses. 5. Use necessary supplements. 6. Keep positive in mind. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Martin To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS On August 31, charles <[hidden email]> wrote: > After many years of *try and error* I have published my *cure*, > with which many people are in a much better situation. Yes, and over the years, I've seen several people report that they were able to cure themselves of their own ES. The problem is, whatever they did to cure themselves may not work for everyone else, or it may be something that someone else cannot afford or will refuse to try. But at least those people were forthcoming about what they actually did to cure themselves! Marc ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Yes, you missed it.
But it is there. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephanie Smith To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS maybe i might have missed it but where have you published your cure Charles? can you signpost me to it ? ________________________________ From: charles <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, 31 August 2012, 17:11 Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS After many years of *try and error* I have published my *cure*, with which many people are in a much better situation. http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephanie Smith To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS Hi Andre I too am very interested in what you might have to say. If you can offer a cure for ES it would be a miracle - it would offer back a normal life to many people who have despaired of ever being able to live normally ever again. All of us on this website are here for one reason - our lives are being very badly affected by EMF and EMR to the point where some of us don't have any way of escaping their effects and are desperate for help - most of us here try our best to help others on the forum to reduce their symptoms and help them to detox. There are many knowledgeable people on the forum who share their considerable expertise with others completely free of any charge in an area where other people might take advantage of the desperation of those whose who suffer from ES. I applaud their generosity and their giving of their time and energy to reach out to others in need to help them and long may that continue on this forum. However, from time to time people come on here - for one time only - and when they do they are posting news of protection devices and "cures" for ES, pretending to be members of this forum when all they really want to do is make money off of people who are sick and who conventional healthcare providers can't help because they don't even want to acknowledge the problem of ES exists. So what I am saying is that if others on the forum sound suspicious of your claims to have found a cure for ES then maybe they are concerned that you also might just be on a money making venture and might be intending to take advantage of a group of vulnerable people - so I am going to be very direct and just ask you - do you intend to share your treatment for ES with us? and will you charge a fee for doing that? Steph ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 16:42 Subject: RE: [eSens] EHS Andre, Thank you for sharing this information. Marc, I believe he has stated that he has been TRYING to get this information out there. Andre, I believe your "stages of EH" are accurate. Once the body has reached high contamination levels, the symptoms are much more severe. Sadly, there are many, who reach stages 6-10, who are still NOT aware of the cause. Mainly because the media is telling people cell phones are safe. And these people often are taking prescription drugs to mask the symptoms. They don't have a clue, many of them. Speaking for myself, I am very interested in your information. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:15:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS On August 29, Andrey Filatov <[hidden email]> wrote: > No BUT I CAN!!! You seem a bit reluctant to provide any real information, making me wonder if there *is* any real information. If you discovered this in 2006, why have you kept it to yourself for the past 6 years? And do you really think this (whatever it is) will work on anyone but yourself? We have years of experience here observing that things that help one person can often make another person worse. But we're listening, if you choose to share... Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Stephanie, Charles's cure is on his website. I copied it & put it here. It was on his email posts. Kathy http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 11:22 AM maybe i might have missed it but where have you published your cure Charles? can you signpost me to it ? ________________________________ From: charles <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, 31 August 2012, 17:11 Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS After many years of *try and error* I have published my *cure*, with which many people are in a much better situation. http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft - [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Love you Marc! Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:17:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS On August 31, charles <[hidden email]> wrote: > After many years of *try and error* I have published my *cure*, > with which many people are in a much better situation. Yes, and over the years, I've seen several people report that they were able to cure themselves of their own ES. The problem is, whatever they did to cure themselves may not work for everyone else, or it may be something that someone else cannot afford or will refuse to try. But at least those people were forthcoming about what they actually did to cure themselves! Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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thanks Kathy - I am trying to do most of the things he states in his short 6 point reply but do not know whether I am doing them in the right way - Lizzie has also sent me her protocol which is extremely helpful but like it is for most of us it seems to be a case of trial and error with me.
Thanks Steph ________________________________ From: KathyB <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, 31 August 2012, 17:41 Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS Stephanie, Charles's cure is on his website. I copied it & put it here. It was on his email posts. Kathy http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 11:22 AM maybe i might have missed it but where have you published your cure Charles? can you signpost me to it ? ________________________________ From: charles <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, 31 August 2012, 17:11 Subject: Re: [eSens] EHS After many years of *try and error* I have published my *cure*, with which many people are in a much better situation. http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft - [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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