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Dental X-Rays

superdrove
Exposure to dental X-rays is cumulative and can make a person Electrosensitive to Wireless Radiation.  This is just a reminder to try and refuse, as much as possible, the new tyranny of dentists requiring patients to get Panoramic and Cone Beam X-rays.

My dentist wanted to give me a Cone Beam X-Ray (of my whole mouth) to see the detailed features of ONE tooth.  I have already had 2 Panoramics and 1 Cone Beam in the past.  I said I did not think it was justified in this instance, since the tooth is probably going to be pulled anyway, and considering my health situation.   They told me that if I refused to get a Cone Beam X-Ray to access the tooth, I could not be seen in their office anymore.  Here is a relevant article to that senario:

https://www.thelundreport.org/content/what-happens-when-patient-says-‘no’

What happens when the patient says, ‘no’
(snip)

"When I spoke on the phone on Aug. 31, with my assigned dentist, I was told Oregon dentists were required by the Oregon Board of Dentistry to do panoramic X-rays. I have yet to find information on the board’s web site or in state statutes for dental practices to do them. The dentist also claimed the practice was endorsed by the American Dental Association. (The ADA did publish this position on its web site in April 2012: “The ADA’s long-standing position is that dentists should order dental X-rays for patients only when necessary for diagnosis and treatment.”)"

This is now the new toy for dentists and they are requiring Panoramic and Cone Beam X-rays for every little thing, mainly because the detail they provide greatly enhances their practice, and because these detailed images helps protect them from lawsuits.  They are required for tooth implants as well.  If you get a tooth worked on that is one Panoramic Cone Beam, when you get that tooth pulled another Panoramic Cone Beam required, and when you get an implant where that tooth was, one  Panoramic Cone Beam required.  That is a total of 3 Panoramic Cone Beams for one tooth, not to mention other Bite-Wings that may have been taken of that tooth in the past.  This is out of control madness.  And dentists take no note of previous exposure, or risk.  They don't care.  So it is up to you to keep a diary of your dental and medical X-rays and to insist that dentists take your cumulative risk into account.

Sometimes dentists will want bite-wing X-rays and a Panoramic.  Why?  (snip)  "Because a panoramic X-ray shows the entire mouth in one picture, it doesn't produce the detail needed to show cavities. This type of X-ray does, however, show problems such as bone abnormalities and fractures, cysts, impacted teeth, infections and tumors. A dentist who suspects any of these problems may choose to take a panoramic X-ray."   https://www.colgate.com/en-us/oral-health/procedures/x-rays/what-is-a-panoramic-dental-x-ray-0415

I read somewhere that one Panoramic X-Ray is equivalent to at least 1,000 bite-wing dental X-rays, but I can't find the source right now and I don't have time to look. A couple other sources claim the Panoramic is equivalent to about 4-20 Bitewings.

(snip) " the radiation exposure from one panoramic X-ray is 0.02 millisieverts, which is four times the 0.005 millisieverts produced by the four bitewing X-rays   What Is a Panoramic Dental X-ray | Colgate® Oral Care"


But, did you know that one Cone Beam X-Ray is equivalent to at least 9 Panormaic X-Rays? That is a significant increase in radiation.  I do have a source for that below.  And we do know that the exposure and risk for children is considerably greater than that for adults for the same X-rays.  Children of today will be subjected to much higher dental radiation exposure and more accumulative risk than we were as children.  The dentists know all about the dangers of Panoramic and Cone Beam X-Rays on adults and children, but they will NEVER tell you, not even the so-called Alternative and/or Mercury Free dentists who claim to watch out for your health.  The Panoramic X-Ray requirements by dentists are worse than the Mercury Amalgam poisoning of the masses.  Cumulative dental X-ray exposure can cause thyroid, breast, salivary gland colon, luekemia and all other sorts of cancers.  Including cataracts.  And including Electrosensitivity.

https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q11138.html

"We can assume that an average radiation dose for a cone-beam CT of the jaws taken for implant purposes is approximately 130 µSv. Compared to the effective dose for a panoramic radiograph (conservatively approximately 14 µSv) (Ludlow et al. 2008), a cone-beam CT is similar to having approximately nine panoramic radiographs depending on the factors stated above.
Questions about the amount of patient exposure dose in diagnostic dental CBCT examination remain an important issue. Roberts JA et al. have indicated that CBCT delivers a higher dose to the patient than a typical panoramic radiograph by 5–16 times."


Dentists love to tell patients that dental X-rays are no worse than the background radiation or they will quote comparison numbers.  That is outright misinformation meant to placate you into submitting to their procedures. Don't be duped.  Dentists told you for decades that Mercury Amalgams were safe, now they are telling you that dental X-Rays are safe.

(snip)  https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q11819.html  "In fact, radiation dose is sometimes calculated in numericial values as a comparasion to background radiation.  Radiation doses for many different types of x-ray examinations have been measured and converted to effective dose for comparison. The effective dose from panoramic radiographs has been calculated to be 9–24 µSv or the equivalent of one to three days of natural background radiation. (The range in numbers is due to slight design differences in the different brands of x-ray machines). For a full-mouth series of intraoral x rays (14–20 films), the corresponding number of days of background radiation equivalent is 10–46 days, depending on whether film or digital imaging is used. A medical computed tomography (CT) scan of the head requires the equivalent of 21–177 days of background radiation, depending on the technique used. So, as you can see, the dose for panoramic radiographs is very low compared to that needed for other types of examinations."  


https://cdaonline.org/news/latest-news/reality-dental-radiation/

The Reality of Dental Radiation

"The most common way dentists explain the dose from their x-rays to concerned patients is to relate it to background radiation. If you just look at the numbers, you could say that one intraoral x-ray is equal to just 20 minutes of background radiation. While on the surface that might seem correct, it isn’t a direct comparison. One concentrated burst of x-ray radiation over a small area of the skin in one-tenth of a second is just not the same as the entire body getting bathed in a regular stream of radiation over 20 minutes. It might be technically the same amount of radiation when listed in a chart as dose, but it’s being applied to the body differently."





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Merializer
I understand it's not healthy, but it could be necessary,
since i have seen Daniel Pompa say this:

"We have the silver fillings which are 50% mercury,
but a lot of people won't get well until
they deal with massive infections, like
from root canals and from cavitations.
If you had a wisdom tooth removed, and
typically most people had to remove
them as teenager's, about 25 years
later they have a massive cavitation: 80-88%
of the time. That is a hidden infection in your jaw.
You typically do not have pain, and years
ago it was very difficult to detect
these things, but I'm telling you,
I could pull my files right here and I could
pull random off the top 10 people
in the last month, that were
sick for years, and I had them go get
something called a "cone beam"
x-ray it's a 3d x-ray. We had trouble
even just five years ago detecting these
things. But now with these cone beams
we can see these things clear as day.
I'm telling you, in this stack of files I have
many people that just literally
a week after their cavitation surgery,
they get this thing decapitated, cleared
out, and their world changes, now their
gut changes, I mean everything starts to change."

Source: https://youtu.be/FPOQiE1xBfc?t=1234
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Jinna
I'm 53 years old, and have been visiting dentists since I was 5.

I had a lot of teeth problems since that age.

It's NO DOUBT that they are now doing much more X-rays than before.

They do Xrays to check if the amalgam / filling is good, or not.

They do Xrays to check if there is cavity in between the teeth.

They do Xrays just to keep the patient records updated and to pay for their investment back (as xray machines cost a lot).

If you say NO, they can REFUSE to treat you, even!

That is what my dentist told me.

 There is NO CHOICE: "either you make the panoramic Xray, or we don't treat you".

That is HOW BAD dentistry has become!!!

as for fluoride, they don't even ask you.

They will put fluoride the whole time, with different products, during any procedure, without asking your permission, as though this were the MOST innocent procedure on the planet.

It's not only electrosmog assault; it's a chemical assault, a psychological torture these medical professionals do to patients.
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Marc Martin
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On October 23, Jinna [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  There is NO CHOICE: "either you make the panoramic Xray, or we don't
> treat you".
>
> They will put fluoride the whole time, with different products, during
> any procedure

Hmmm, maybe you need to find a different dentist... my dentist does not use flouride on any of his patients under any circumstances, and has never ordered a panoramic X-ray.  X-Rays on frontal teeth are done every 6 years, and I think the bite-wings on the rest of the teeth are done every 1 - 2 years.

Marc
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steve
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Panoramic or conebeam X Rays are very useful as they can see things like infections that regular x rays cannot.
Some give off less radiation than others, most holistic dentists will use the reduced radiation versions.
I'm going to get one at my next cleaning (I only get them every 5 years as my insurance won't cover any more than that).
I have a root canal that gives me issues and I have a feeling it will need to be pulled but I will wait longer if the Xray doesn't pick up anything wrong.
Then unfortunately will require an implant (zirconia).
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Fog Top
I have a root canal that gives me issues and I have a feeling it will need to be pulled but I will wait longer if the Xray doesn't pick up anything wrong.

Steve, root canals are a source of chronic infection.  Watch the Netflix documentary, Root Caused and read what Mercola reports:
I had my root canal and titanium implant removed at the same time and felt tremendously better afterwards



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Panoramic or conebeam X Rays are very useful as they can see things like infections that regular x rays cannot.
Some give off less radiation than others, most holistic dentists will use the reduced radiation versions.
I'm going to get one at my next cleaning (I only get them every 5 years as my insurance won't cover any more than that).
I have a root canal that gives me issues and I have a feeling it will need to be pulled but I will wait longer if the Xray doesn't pick up anything wrong.
Then unfortunately will require an implant (zirconia).


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superdrove
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Yes, I agree that Panaramic and Cone Beam X-Rays are very useful.  That is why dentists want to make use of them so often.  And that is the issue here.  The over use of these X-Rays for every little thing.  A Panormaic and Cone Beam X-Rays is supposed to be good for 10 years.  But when I showed my dentist the one I had taken 5 years ago, he said it wasn't current enough and I needed a new one.  

And like I said, they are requiring them just to pull teeth now.  Do I want to radiate my eyes and thyroid just to pull a tooth?  Gee, how did dentists manage to pull teeth in the past without all these digital aids?  I have not read that having a tooth pulled was a big issue in the past before these Panoramics and Cone Beams came into general use.

And, as I said, Dentist do not take previous exposure risk into account, so it is up to you to keep track and let them know so they can access if the procedure is justified in each instance.

Just be aware that these X-rays are being over used and it is up to you to manage the amount of X-rays that are required of you.  Just because they say you need to have them, does not mean you have to agree.

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steve
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Oh, I know root canals are bad. To make it worse I had an apicoectomy afterwards and they capped it with mercury. You can see the glowing tips when I get a conebeam x ray.
I just want to save up the money for it and wait until I can get the mkst out of my insurance since I used it up this year replacing a metal based crown with a cerec and cavities.
Also, not looking forward to the implant
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steve
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The x ryas are very helpful before extraction so they know if the root is close to the sinus canal and for other things. 10 years is a long time to go and I can see where the dentist is coming from as extractions aren't a simple procedure and they want to cover their butt.
I don't like X rays either but better safe than sorry, IMO
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kara
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Merializer, you mentioned that most people do/need remove wisdom teeth. I disagree.
I did it in my late 20's, because my teeth were crowded, but it absolutely did not change a thing. I put more load now on the other teeth, and can feel that the back teeth need to work more. We are so afraid of nature that we need to change our biology??
Concerning X-rays: I really avoid the dentist, but last time I went, I got one, and I truly felt really awful for the next week, but even felt bad for the following weeks, with headaches, mind fog, depression and more.
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Merializer
I didn't say this. Daniel Pompa said that this happens to many teenagers.
I know very little about this subject, i'm not a dentist, but
i do know some of mine were removed
because i was in pain because they pushed against something.
It was a long time ago, i can't remember much about it.
But i doubt nature would have fixed this for me.


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kara
Ok, I cannot know how you experienced it. I just know for me, that there was nothing wrong with them, and that people around me kept saying, these teeth are of bad quality and useless anyway, get rid of them. I did it only because I thought it was leave some extra space for the rest of my teeth which it didn't. I totally regretted it later.
There must be a reason why we have wisdom teeth, no?
I think some part of our bodys are degenerating, in some people, because of maybe eating to much soft/processed foods over many generations. My teeth were actually quite good and strong (and my wisdom teeth had no problems), except from not having enough space. But going vegetarian and vegan deteriorated them, plus the mercury fillings. I am not a huge meat eater, but I choose my animal products with care, and I cam say that it does make a difference for teeth. I put more money on high quality food, and much much less on dentists and doctors.
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Merializer
I agree to only remove them if there are problems,
not because it's tradition or something.
Not sure what happened to me, my memory is very bad.
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Fog Top
I had no crowding issues with the wisdom teeth but they never came down and I was told that they had developed sacs around them which could become cancerous.  Others have told me that theirs were removed for the same reason.  I had them removed but now wonder if it was really necessary.  Just the mention of the big "C" makes people follow the suggested recommendation.

A dentist told me that I get more radiation from opening the refrigerator door than from one of his digital x-rays which I was refusing.  I have a high frequency analyzer, HF35C, which can analyze in the 800-2500 MHz range, and it spikes quickly and then stops each time I open the refrigerator door!  I never did try to measure an actual x-ray, but I still decline the every year x-rays and only do them every 3-5 years.


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I agree to only remove them if there are problems,
not because it's tradition or something.
Not sure what happened to me, my memory is very bad.


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Merializer
This post was updated on .
I thought you were joking about the fridge,
but i checked with my Esmog Spion and it's indeed so,
a brief spike when opening the door. Weird. Any idea why this is ?
And how does a dentist know about the fridge door and we don't ?
Where did he learn this ?

Also i doubt x-ray is better than fridge door opening.
But we are exposed 24/7 to a lot of frequencies,
which nowadays may be worse than an x-rays now and then. Who knows.
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On October 31, Merializer  wrote:
>  I thought you were joking about the fridge,
> but i checked with my Esmog Spion and it's indeed so,
> a brief spike when opening the door. Weird. Any idea why this is ?

Wouldn't that just be the internal light turning on?




 
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Merializer
lol. Of coarse it was (i'm having a bad day today i can't think straight).
It was easy to test, i just pressed the lever switch thingy for the light at the door.
Closer to the switch the spikes are higher.
So according to what the dentist said, switching lights on is worse than x-rays ?!

Even the cornet picks up some spikes in RF mode,
also when switching on a incandescent light on my desk,
sure, but is this bad ?
Isn't what that dentist says manipulation (and/or ignorance),
just to soften the x-ray danger and fear ?
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Fog Top
LOL, I'm not thinking too well either.  Now I remember years ago seeing how turning on a light could register on the RF meter.  I have a new dentist, so I'll never know how he knew that about opening a refrigerator door.

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lol. Of coarse it was (i'm having a bad day today i can't think straight).
It was easy to test, i just pressed the lever switch thingy for the light at the door.
So according to what the dentist said, switching lights on is worse than x-rays ?!

Even the cornet picks up some spikes in RF mode,
also when switching on a incandescent light on my desk,
sure, but is this bad ?
Isn't what that dentist says manipulation, just to soften the x-ray danger ?


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earthworm
Well, dentists go hiding behind a door with lead sheets when x-rays are taken.
Another nonsense story i heard from a dentist is that the amount of radiation of an x-ray picture is less than what you get during a year high up in the mountains.
Well, 1 volt during 1 year will not kill you, but touching a 100.000 volt overhead powerline blows you up in a fraction of a second, say 1/10 of a second.
And there are over 300 million tenths of a second in a year, so you should be able to handle 300.000.000 volt during a moment according to the logic presented by this dentist, who probably learned the b.s. in a dental university as usual run by quacks.

Nevertheless there are some advantages to having a dental x-ray taken.
You can ask for a copy and carefully check yourself what needs to be done and what not.
This is pretty important as over 90 % of treatment-plans proposed by dentists are beneficial to them but harm more than help their customers, and even if your dentist has a proper conscience he probably will still be an idiot.
To detect jawbone infections 3d x-rays pictures are simply much better, so if you have found a dentist that is capable of cleaning out cavitations then it might be worth it to accept the extra amount of radiation.

Concerning the spike in emfs measured when lights are turned on, it is not much and may be a distortion of the meter.
Maybe your previous dentist did not know anything about it but simply thought he was funny ( at your expense ), and by sheer luck it actually appears to make some sense.
Anyway, there is certainly reason to worry more about x-rays, and also, even a lot more so, about mri scans.
If you want to remain healthy, perhaps the most vital general rule is to stay away from hospitals.

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steve
What to take to help clear the effects of x rays. I heard iodine
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