Dealing with Smart-Meters-Recommendations Needed

Greetings:


I have been a member of this group for awhile now and have appreciated the contributions so many have made. I have implemented a number of these!  I also appreciate Marc's vigilance and responses which equate to a pretty significant time investment to keep this forum a sane place in a pretty insane world. :)

That being said, I need some advice on my smart-meter situation.

My current house and neighborhood has not been assaulted yet by the smart-meter invasion, but is scheduled to happen sometime in 2012.  We've been lucky so far, as there are no cell towers right on top of us and our one-story house is at the bottom of a hill and is surrounded by 2-story brick houses.  This seems to have acted as a shield and has attenuated the microwave RF for the inside of our house.  I am pretty sensitive to this, so the low readings in my house have given me a place to recover so that I can endure brief exposures out in the microwave jungle.

The decision I'm trying to make is do I stay and attempt to shield myself and family from the future smart-meters, or do I move to a better place?  My concern is that our lots are narrow and unfortunately both my neighbor's electric meters are facing my house.  This means that there will be 3 smart-meters within 25 feet of either the master bedroom or the family room.  These are the 2 rooms we spend the most time in.  

My question:  does anyone really think I can successfully shield myself from these?  I'm pretty sure I can stop the 1 GHz RF, but I think that there is a lower frequency that is being transmitted that really can't be shielded very easily (or cheaply).

I've thought about buying a house on 1 acre on more, but these are more rural and there are a lot of available spots nearby on open land for future cell towers which would be problematic. Also, a house on an acre would be more in the open and I would lose my brick 2-story house shielding!  Could I more successfully shield my house in this situation from the cell towers than my existing house's Smart-meter configuration?

My current solution unless someone here comes up with a better idea (and I'm hopeful of this) is to move to a house with a slightly oversized lot and make sure that my neighbor's meters are on the far side of their houses and that my meter can at least be partially shielded until we get some kind of legislated opt-out here in Texas.  Currently in Texas, there is no opt-out and they will just shut your power off if you won't accept their smart-meter installation.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Jim

Jim,

 

I don't know for sure, but think you cannot  block smart meter RF, especially when you are in a direct path from 2 neighbor's meters surrounding you. . You'll feel it in the streets all over your neighboorhood. Some have higher RF than others depending on where the RF is going.

I would sell. We will sell when it's possible. Look for at least 1 acre.
Kathy


Will they use a utility pole or a home to collect the info & where will it be?


Here's a doctor's letter from Australia

http://stopsmartmeters.com.au/2012/03/30/open-letter-to-the-premier/

Since the completion of the smart meter roll-out in my area, I have been very, very sick.
I have continuous palpitations, chest pain, a weird taste in my
mouth, loss of appetite, lethargy, dizziness, faint attacks, inability
to concentrate and complete insomnia.
I have the feelings at home, in the street, in all the streets of my area and at the shops.
I am not able to function. I can’t work, I can’t look after my
family, I need my husband, who is now the only breadwinner, to take care
 of me.
My symptoms only disappear when I am in an area without smart meters,
 in a large park or on the beach
. When my husband drives me through the
Melbourne suburbs, I tell him when I feel my symptoms abate, he stops
the car and looks at house fronts and, sure enough, he sees the
old-style meters. This can be reproduced very predictably.
We now have to sell our home and find a place to live, where I get few or no symptoms



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I've thought about buying a house on 1 acre on more, but these are more rural and there are a lot of available spots nearby on open land for future cell towers which would be problematic. Also, a house on an acre would be more in the open and I would lose my brick 2-story house shielding!  Could I more successfully shield my house in this situation from the cell towers than my existing house's Smart-meter configuration?






 










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> I don't know for sure, but think you cannot  block smart meter RF

Well, you *could* put RF absorbers on every exterior wall, which
would protect you inside of your house, but it seems like it would
be nicer just to live somewhere where there are no Smart Meters.

Marc

Oh, and even if you did put RF absorbers on your walls, you'd still
have the dirty electricity on your power lines caused by the Smart
Meters, so you'd need to filter the electricity coming into your
house as well.

Also, Smart Meters have TWO transmitter/receivers -- one to
communicate with the power company/other Smart Meters,
and another to communicate with your "Smart Appliances".
Seems like someone should come up with instructions on
how to shield/disable the second one.

Marc

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Marc Martin wrote:

Thanks for the response.  I think this probably is the best solution. Move and blanket the exterior walls and ceiling (attic) with absorber material. I don't think our power company is going to leave any areas unconverted so it's better to find a place with better meter placement.I have a business that cannot be moved, anyway.

Jim

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
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> > I don't know for sure, but think you cannot� block smart meter RF
>
> Well, you *could* put RF absorbers on every exterior wall, which
> would protect you inside of your house, but it seems like it would
> be nicer just to live somewhere where there are no Smart Meters.
>
> Marc
>

Thanks, Kathy.  We've pretty much decided to move. I think we will look for a lot in a neighborhood with at least 1 acre.  New construction will give us a chance to line the walls and ceilings with absorber material and do some other shielding.  We will look into alternative energy sources to be added in the future.

What is motivating me is our power company installed smart-meters on my office building (which is 1st floor retail and offices upstairs).  I felt really bad getting anywhere close to them.  Just out of curiosity I went into the store whose common wall contained the meters to see what readings would show on my RF meter.  I talked with the 2 employees and told them that smart meters had been installed.  I asked them if they had experienced any change of health in the past 2 weeks and one of the employees said she had been having chest pains which started about the same time. (No surprise, but it sure reinforces the belief that these devices are dangerous.)

Hopefully Texas will wake up one day and legislate opt-outs....

--- In [hidden email], KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote:
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> Jim,

> I don't know for sure, but think you cannot  block smart meter RF, especially when you are in a direct path from 2 neighbor's meters surrounding you. . You'll feel it in the streets all over your neighboorhood. Some have higher RF than others depending on where the RF is going.
>
> I would sell. We will sell when it's possible. Look for at least 1 acre.
> Kathy
>
>

Hi, Jim, and All,


The way we dealt with our smart meter was to have the utility bury it in the yard, out by the road.  I was surprised, but they did this!  (I tried to get out of the meter altogether, of course, but this was the only option which was negotiable.)  It is in a hole about 3 feet deep, with a plastic cover on it, which cannot really be seen and shrubbery easily hides it.  It is 25 feet away from the corner of our bedroom.   I can feel the emfs from it within 12 feet of the hole, but I may be less sensitive than you, as I do not feel nearly as much as I used to. 


If one of the meters is a water meter, make sure you have plastic pipe into the house and the water is grounded out by the meter very well, otherwise the emfs will just come in on your water.  You should also have a dielectric union put on any gas pipes where they enter your house.  And you should not run electric or other wires thru the ground around these meters or pipes, as well, as the wires will pick up ground currents from them.  If you could also convince your neighbor to do this, too, it would be even better.  Where I live, the neighbors' meters are on the other side of each of their houses.  I hope this works well for you, Jim.  It is a lot less expensive than buying a new house (tho that may be a better option if you can find a remote enough area where cell towers, etc, will not be locating.)


Also, I wanted to mention to those who have written me privately, I am not online at all at the moment, except for a couple minutes today.  I will not be answering any private mail until after Easter.  Sorry for the wait.  I hope All are well.


Happy Easter, All,
Diane






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Thanks for the response.  I think this probably is the best solution. Move and blanket the exterior walls and ceiling (attic) with absorber material. I don't think our power company is going to leave any areas unconverted so it's better to find a place with better meter placement.I have a business that cannot be moved, anyway.

Jim

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
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> > I don't know for sure, but think you cannot� block smart meter RF
>
> Well, you *could* put RF absorbers on every exterior wall, which
> would protect you inside of your house, but it seems like it would
> be nicer just to live somewhere where there are no Smart Meters.
>
> Marc
>




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You're welcome Jim. There's not much choice but to move if you can, w this toxic technology. We have to move too. I can't wait.

I talked w someone in TX that had to pay 8k. to put up a pole at the end of their property to mount the smart meter on. They wanted it up high to avoid some of the RF.

What did you get on your meter? You can buy protective clothing to wear at work. This hole thing is sad.

Kathy

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      Thanks, Kathy.  We've pretty much decided to move. I think we will look for a lot in a neighborhood with at least 1 acre.  New construction will give us a chance to line the walls and ceilings with absorber material and do some other shielding.  We will look into alternative energy sources to be added in the future.



What is motivating me is our power company installed smart-meters on my office building (which is 1st floor retail and offices upstairs).  I felt really bad getting anywhere close to them.  Just out of curiosity I went into the store whose common wall contained the meters to see what readings would show on my RF meter.  I talked with the 2 employees and told them that smart meters had been installed.  I asked them if they had experienced any change of health in the past 2 weeks and one of the employees said she had been having chest pains which started about the same time. (No surprise, but it sure reinforces the belief that these devices are dangerous.)



Hopefully Texas will wake up one day and legislate opt-outs....p
 


 

 
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I work at home to avoid this secondary office where my assistant works.  The Smart Meters that I encountered gave me a reading of less than .5 mW per M2 from a distance of about 20 feet.  This was a bank of 5 meters so the pulsing was about every 2-3 seconds. Really bad stuff! They were painful!



--- In [hidden email], KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote:
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>
> You're welcome Jim. There's not much choice but to move if you can, w this toxic technology. We have to move too. I can't wait.
>
> I talked w someone in TX that had to pay 8k. to put up a pole at the end of their property to mount the smart meter on. They wanted it up high to avoid some of the RF.
>
> What did you get on your meter? You can buy protective clothing to wear at work. This hole thing is sad.
>
> Kathy