DIY alternative: 3 in 1 low EMF computer: Mouse, Keyboard, Microphone

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Merializer
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sailplane
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Wow, I can't believe you went to all that trouble with the weights.

I've thought a lot about how to create a keyboard with zero EMF. Are you so sensitive that you get a reaction even from old style battery powered keyboards that use Infrared light (not bluetooth) ?

I would think those would be quite low EMF. The IR sender is directional, so you can point it to the receiver at a distance.

Something like:
http://www.btc.com.tw/pdf/5110r.pdf

Transmission mode is infrared, so all light, no RF. 6AA Batteries.

If you still want to go the super-hard route, I'd think something with interrupted light beams, like optical wires, would be the way to go.. So when you press the key, you're changing the light reflected at the end of an optical cable.. which can be quite cheap.

With a photo sensor, optical cables, and a logic board like the Arduino, it should be doable.
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sailplane
You should be able to get a IR keyboard with no problems.

If you worry about compatibility, check this out,
https://flirc.tv/flirc-usb

it is a IR Receiver that can be programmer to any IR device. I've never tried it, but it looks like it should do the job.

So you can just buy the keyboard, and program it to this IR reciever, which is pretty new, it's intended for home theater PCs.

I'd recommend trying something already done, as it's a lot of work to make your own.. if you make it, you may as well try to sell it once it's done and hope to get your money back.. maybe others would be interested in a light/operated keyboard.
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sailplane
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Here's an already done IR mouse,

http://www.natatech.com/products/complete-response-systems/fmri-mouse-system

and trackball,
http://www.natatech.com/products/complete-response-systems/fmri-trackball-system

emits 0 magnetic, 0 RF. Made for MRI technicians. in MRI no fields are allowed in the room.

Also some ideas:
http://benkrasnow.blogspot.ca/2011/04/fiberoptic-mouse-with-quadrature.html
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Merializer
Ok, thanks a lot for the links, i'll look into this stuff. That IR Receiver is interesting and
that mouse system Ben Krasnow made is exactly what i need,
i'm not sure how i'll tackle it, but we'll see.
And i'll do my best to do something back for the community if i can.

If there are other options or idea's, they are very welcome.
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sailplane
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Here is an idea for a less EMF Keyboard:

Buy this adapter:
http://handheldsci.com/kb

Buy a USB Bluetooth receiver and USB Extender cable.
Place the two together in a cardboard box, lined with tin foil, only cables sticking out through small holes.

This effectively disconnects the computer from the keyboard. Only the adapter which is battery powered will power the keyboard and send it's output back to the computer via Bluetooth which happens in the tin foil line box so it doesn't escape.  The keyboard should have much less EMF this way. It won't be 0, because there are still chips running inside of the keyboard, but RF and E fields will be reduced.

The benefit is, you get to keep your favorite wired keyboard. I just wish there was something like this for the mouse.
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Merializer
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For people who where following this thread:
i tested the infrared "Acer Airkey Wireless keyboard with integrated mouse"
with no success. If you are very sensitive like me it probably won't
work for you either. i feel pain after using it a short while.  it's caused by this,
because if use my wooden keyboard/mouse system i feel no pain of coarse.
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Karl
I have two old PalmOS devices with keyboards that don't bother me as much. Both are available cheaply on eBay and Amazon, and one of the manufacturers made a smart keyboard that would plug directly into a PC or Mac. I have one of those on order, and I would be happy to post results when I test it.

Old Palm infrared keyboards do have an active matrix, but it runs at only ~4 Hz. I find that a lot more tolerable than most keyboards. The matrix on an Alphasmart Dana runs at ~60 Hz, which also doesn't bother me as much.
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Merializer
i also have a "Belkin F8U1500 Infra Red keyboard" (no idea on what hz it operates) but this gives readings on the meter and so should be worse than my other IR keyboard.
This one is also not tolerable for me, instant pain.
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Karl
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Merializer wrote
i also have a "Belkin F8U1500 Infra Red keyboard" (no idea on what hz it operates) but this gives readings on the meter and so should be worse than my other IR keyboard.
This one is also not tolerable for me, instant pain.
Merializer, I thought about sending you a note when you first posted, but I'm just digging into keyboards myself.

I've toyed with doing a fully optical keyboard. The waveguides need to reflect a fraction of light at right angles, but also allow some to pass through so that other key-presses on the same column or row can be detected.

I have CAD software that can create models suitable for a 3D printer. Once you have a working prototype, you can use the parts to make silicone or urethane molds that will let you make multiple copies fairly easily.
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Karl
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Just an update:

I'm typing this on my Alphasmart Neo,which just arrived. It's not as much better as I had hoped, but I can touch-type more easily. I don't get agitated after 30 seconds, so that's an improvement.
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charles
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In my opinion, one should first eliminate all possible elektrosmog components.
They are in the frequency range of 5kHz and 10MHz.
You can find them with a HAM radio or de Esmog Spion.

There are monitors and monitors.
I had an Acer 24", which gave big peaks at 47.5MHz.
Now I have a Philips27", no problems.

I had a mouse on a PS2 plug. A lot of elektrosmog.
Now I use one with USB.
The cablke should be *not shielded*.

I had a Microsoft 600 wired keyboard. That one died.
I got one Trust keybord. When I went with my detector over it, saomething peculiar happened.
Right over the keyboard, I measured strong fields. When I went upwards, the fields went down, but whrn I got again upwards, the fields get stronger, etc..
Now I am using e Microsoft 600 keyboard again, and nu trouble.
The wiring should be *not shielded*.

The cables are treated with this alu film. Pagina600.html
The keyboard as well as the monitor do have these Gebbensleben stickers.

When you are using a shielded keyboard or mouse, the dirtyyu frequencies are trapped inside the cables, and cannot escape, so they escape under your hand.

One of the worst elektrosmog causers is the power transformer in the computer.
I got a new desktop computer, but with a very bad power transformer.
I let them exchange for another one, and the problems are gone.


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JWest
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I could buy the USB Flirc (infrared transmitter/receiver).

I could buy a keyboard, but that would need power, and if powered if would already be a bluetooth device. Or it would expect power from its USB connection.

The problem is powering the USB keyboard and having its USB connect to the Flirc. The Flirc has no power for the keyboard. It will look for power from the keyboard.

Solution?

The already-done devices are $2500.
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EMF_Crazy
I have been searching high and low for a reasonably priced solution for the keyboard and finally found something.

I purchased the Sejin Electron INC Infrared keyboard (comes with receiver) and have been really well pleased.  Comes with built in track ball, and mouse buttons too.  

Trackball does have a small imperfection from the plastic mold that gets hung up on the rollers which isn't too often.

I also wish the function key and Alt key were swapped since it frustrates my photoshop and CAD modifier key workflows, but I'm working on a keymapping workaround.  I am very well pleased with it regardless.

Native EMF website usually sells it but they are sold out.
https://nativeemf.com/product/low-emf-infrared-wireless-keyboard/

I found it at EMF Clothing and Shielding website.
https://emfclothing.com/accessories/ir-keyboard-with-trackball

I tried to find a website for Sejin Electron INC but no luck.  
I was hoping this South Korean company would have a IR mouse solution or if I could contact them to beg to develop said IR Mouse.

Perhaps this company no longer exists.  

Hope this helps somebody.  
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EMF_Crazy
To follow up, I continue to be satisfied with the Sejin Electron Inc IR keyboard.
Except for the trackball imperfection that likes to get caught in the roller.

Like many others, the Roller PS2 mouse with separator has been far better than the modern day norms.
Still not quite enough for my taste.
I still want total separation for the mouse like the IR keyboard.

That Nata Technologies FMRI Mouse system for $3k (if you add a scroll wheel) is hard to justify, unless you are wealthy, a government entity, or a medical facility/hospital where money is no object.  

I've searched high and low in the MRI and medical computer equipment supplier offerings, various online computer tech stores in South Korea, Japan, and Taiwon.  Any form of searching I could think of, and to my amazement there is no other Wireless IR Mouse.  The Nata FMRI mouse is the only one.

Instead, you find how much of a monopoly the usual brands have across the earth.  Like LG, Logitech, etc.  
All the other no name China brand mice follow along the same usual 2.4 wireless, bluetooth, or standard chorded.

But that is where most of the demand and $$ is.  

Until there is a successful big mass demand for change like the organic, no artificial anything, or gluten free food markets then its looking like we will stay the course.
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JWest
I also use the Sejin keyboard and bought three cuz two became weird.

I am also amazed and pissed, that the world does not get the EMF connection when I see people somewhat commonly, wearing ace bandages on their wrists and being told (and believing) that their problem is "genetic". Also this is also a sign of increased incidence of heart attack.

I use a ball mouse and tape aluminum foil on its upper surface. And wear an EMF shield glove.
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EMF_Crazy
Yeah, I'll have to get out the aluminum foil again and experiment around with the roller mouse.  I also have the emf gloves I could try again that I got from defender shield.

If it isn't an ace bandage, it's a brace and people thinking carpal tunnel.

But yeah, it is very infuriating and downright frightening how clueless people are.  
Moreso how socially engineerable people are but I digress.  

What a load of crock that our predecessors were sold all about The Wonderful World of Tomorrow!
Which they continue to sell to this day, and I believe now we are specifically at the Smart Cities and colossal sized confined utopias phase.