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DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each

Hud J O Ramelan
I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type  filters and they work!
How do I know they work?  My Stetzerizer micosurge meter dropped around 50 GS units, after I installed each one!
"Oh frabjous day!  Caloo! Calay!"

Thanks to the paper written by Martin Graham describing the specifics of the capacitance filter which would become known as the Graham-STetzer filter, I was able to track down and order the correct electronic components online and wire them up with a soldering iron quite easily.

What a great discovery!  I just couldn't afford to spend ~$35-40 on filters, if 10 or 20 were needed.  So I took a little gamble and ordered the components to make 8 to see what the result would be.  Looks like I'll be ordering components to make 10 more...

Can I post pics somewhere?  I'd like to photograph the components and completed filter for those interested.

More L8r.

 

  This is the End...      
 

  ~=~
  HJR
_________________________________________________________
nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)


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Marc Martin
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On May  5, H J R <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type  filters and they work!

Congratulations!

> Can I post pics somewhere? 

Yes, the group does have a "Photo Album" area:

  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/

Marc
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timbuk2
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VERY COOL!  What's the average cost for the parts? 


Tim



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To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:10 PM
Subject: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each
 


 
I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type  filters and they work!
How do I know they work?  My Stetzerizer micosurge meter dropped around 50 GS units, after I installed each one!
"Oh frabjous day!  Caloo! Calay!"

Thanks to the paper written by Martin Graham describing the specifics of the capacitance filter which would become known as the Graham-STetzer filter, I was able to track down and order the correct electronic components online and wire them up with a soldering iron quite easily.

What a great discovery!  I just couldn't afford to spend ~$35-40 on filters, if 10 or 20 were needed.  So I took a little gamble and ordered the components to make 8 to see what the result would be.  Looks like I'll be ordering components to make 10 more...

Can I post pics somewhere?  I'd like to photograph the components and completed filter for those interested.

More L8r.

 

  This is the End...      
 

  ~=~
  HJR
_________________________________________________________
nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)

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Re: PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters

Hud J O Ramelan


 Here is a rundown of the cost for parts to make DIY 'Graham-Stetzer'-type capacitance filters:

Component/Manufacturer, Part Number |Price

        1. 20uF(microfarad) 180VAC Film Capacitors, 'Motor Run' type/Panasonic JS18206-AA|$6.40ea
        2. 27kOhm(kiloohm) 2Watt Metal Oxide Film Resistors/Panasonic ERG-2SJ273               | $0.47ea   
        3. AC Wall Plug Enclosures /Polycase PM2314 PS Series                                                     |$3.70ea
http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/JS181206-AA/P9404-ND/114884

http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/ERG-2SJ273/P27KW-2BK-ND/36452
http://www.polycase.com/pm2314
If you click on the links, you should see a photo of each component.

NB:  These prices do not include shipping &/or taxes/duties, which can be a considerable cost (I think shipping for 10 Wall Plug Enclosures was $23.00 USA to Canada)!

  This is the End...      
 

  ~=~
  HJR
_________________________________________________________
nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)




>________________________________
> From: Tim <[hidden email]>
>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 9:37:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each
>
>
>VERY COOL!  What's the average cost for the parts? 
>
>
>Tim
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: H J R <[hidden email]>
>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:10 PM
>Subject: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each
>
>
>

>I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type  filters and they work!
>How do I know they work?  My Stetzerizer micosurge meter dropped around 50 GS units, after I installed each one!
>"Oh frabjous day!  Caloo! Calay!"
>
>Thanks to the paper written by Martin Graham describing the specifics of the capacitance filter which would become known as the Graham-STetzer filter, I was able to track down and order the correct electronic components online and wire them up with a soldering iron quite easily.
>
>What a great discovery!  I just couldn't afford to spend ~$35-40 on filters, if 10 or 20 were needed.  So I took a little gamble and ordered the components to make 8 to see what the result would be.  Looks like I'll be ordering components to make 10 more...
>
>Can I post pics somewhere?  I'd like to photograph the components and completed filter for those interested.
>
>More L8r.
>
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>
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Re: PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters

charles-4
Sure.

But if you make them yourself, and a fire starts, and your house burns down, the insurance does not pay anything.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.minderstraling.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Emsisoft

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: H J R
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters




  Here is a rundown of the cost for parts to make DIY 'Graham-Stetzer'-type capacitance filters:

  Component/Manufacturer, Part Number |Price

  1. 20uF(microfarad) 180VAC Film Capacitors, 'Motor Run' type/Panasonic JS18206-AA|$6.40ea
  2. 27kOhm(kiloohm) 2Watt Metal Oxide Film Resistors/Panasonic ERG-2SJ273 | $0.47ea
  3. AC Wall Plug Enclosures /Polycase PM2314 PS Series |$3.70ea
  http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/JS181206-AA/P9404-ND/114884

  http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/ERG-2SJ273/P27KW-2BK-ND/36452
  http://www.polycase.com/pm2314
  If you click on the links, you should see a photo of each component.

  NB: These prices do not include shipping &/or taxes/duties, which can be a considerable cost (I think shipping for 10 Wall Plug Enclosures was $23.00 USA to Canada)!

  This is the End...


  ~=~
  HJR
  _________________________________________________________
  nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
  You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)




  >________________________________
  > From: Tim <[hidden email]>
  >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
  >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 9:37:23 PM
  >Subject: Re: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each
  >
  >
  >VERY COOL! What's the average cost for the parts?
  >
  >
  >Tim
  >
  >
  >
  >________________________________
  >From: H J R <[hidden email]>
  >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
  >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:10 PM
  >Subject: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters and they work!
  >How do I know they work? My Stetzerizer micosurge meter dropped around 50 GS units, after I installed each one!
  >"Oh frabjous day! Caloo! Calay!"
  >
  >Thanks to the paper written by Martin Graham describing the specifics of the capacitance filter which would become known as the Graham-STetzer filter, I was able to track down and order the correct electronic components online and wire them up with a soldering iron quite easily.
  >
  >What a great discovery! I just couldn't afford to spend ~$35-40 on filters, if 10 or 20 were needed. So I took a little gamble and ordered the components to make 8 to see what the result would be. Looks like I'll be ordering components to make 10 more...
  >
  >Can I post pics somewhere? I'd like to photograph the components and completed filter for those interested.
  >
  >More L8r.
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >

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Re: PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters

Hud J O Ramelan


 Hi Charles,

Regarding fire risks, I think there is very little risk here.  These can be constructed using simple crimp-type 'quick' connectors--which I intend to do when I can get some of those connectors this week.  I soldered the first ones.  I've also wired up my own telephone jacks, ground wires, light fixtures, & fixed several personal electronics devices around this apartment--I don't own a house.  If I had enough assets to own/occupy a house, I would probably also be in a position to simply purchase approved GS filters and hire certified electricians to do electrical work--but I don't have the assets.  Whereas a fire is a distant risk to my health & life, living with electropollution, power quality problems/etc. is a concrete, immediate & prominent risk to my health & quality of life. 

I do however appreciate your concern; it's a prickly issue with no easy answers.

Are you aware of GS filters causing fires?



  This is the End...      
 

  ~=~
  HJR
_________________________________________________________
nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)




>________________________________
> From: charles <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 4:40:09 AM
>Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters
>
>
>Sure.
>
>But if you make them yourself, and a fire starts, and your house burns down, the insurance does not pay anything.
>
>Greetings,
>Charles Claessens
>www.milieuziektes.nl
>www.milieuziektes.be
>www.minderstraling.nl
>www.hetbitje.nl
>checked by Emsisoft
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: H J R
>  To: [hidden email]
>  Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:27 AM
>  Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters
>
>
>
>
>  Here is a rundown of the cost for parts to make DIY 'Graham-Stetzer'-type capacitance filters:
>
>  Component/Manufacturer, Part Number |Price
>
>  1. 20uF(microfarad) 180VAC Film Capacitors, 'Motor Run' type/Panasonic JS18206-AA|$6.40ea
>  2. 27kOhm(kiloohm) 2Watt Metal Oxide Film Resistors/Panasonic ERG-2SJ273 | $0.47ea
>  3. AC Wall Plug Enclosures /Polycase PM2314 PS Series |$3.70ea
http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/JS181206-AA/P9404-ND/114884
>
http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/ERG-2SJ273/P27KW-2BK-ND/36452
http://www.polycase.com/pm2314
>  If you click on the links, you should see a photo of each component.
>
>  NB: These prices do not include shipping &/or taxes/duties, which can be a considerable cost (I think shipping for 10 Wall Plug Enclosures was $23.00 USA to Canada)!
>
>  This is the End...
>
>
>  ~=~
>  HJR
>  _________________________________________________________
>  nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
>  You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
>
>
>
>
>  >________________________________
>  > From: Tim <[hidden email]>
>  >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>  >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 9:37:23 PM
>  >Subject: Re: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each
>  >
>  >
>  >VERY COOL! What's the average cost for the parts?
>  >
>  >
>  >Tim
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >________________________________
>  >From: H J R <[hidden email]>
>  >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>  >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:10 PM
>  >Subject: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters and they work!
>  >How do I know they work? My Stetzerizer micosurge meter dropped around 50 GS units, after I installed each one!
>  >"Oh frabjous day! Caloo! Calay!"
>  >
>  >Thanks to the paper written by Martin Graham describing the specifics of the capacitance filter which would become known as the Graham-STetzer filter, I was able to track down and order the correct electronic components online and wire them up with a soldering iron quite easily.
>  >
>  >What a great discovery! I just couldn't afford to spend ~$35-40 on filters, if 10 or 20 were needed. So I took a little gamble and ordered the components to make 8 to see what the result would be. Looks like I'll be ordering components to make 10 more...
>  >
>  >Can I post pics somewhere? I'd like to photograph the components and completed filter for those interested.
>  >
>  >More L8r.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
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Re: PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters

Marc Martin
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On May  6, H J R <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Are you aware of GS filters causing fires?

There was someone on another group (emfrefugee) that
claimed that Stetzer filters were burning down houses.
However, since that person was selling a competing
product, I'm not so sure how seriously you should take
that comment.  

I had certainly not heard that before.

Marc
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Elizabeth thode
Stetzer filters can only be used on properly wired/grounded wiring systems.What happens is the capacitative filters, which do use a small amt of electricity,backs up on ungrounded wiring...and this can cause arcing on the wiring, whichcan cause house fires.  This info is in the tiny print somewhere on the Stetzer info, on instructions.So it is a very serious issue. And many of the older houses are not properly wired. The thing is, one will see a drop in dirty electricity on the micro surge meter,even WITH bad or ungrounded wiring, so this is not a good indicator thatthe wiring is safe. Best way to check is to buy a "Outlet Tester" and check EVERY outlet, to makesure the outlet is grounded. This outlet tester is less then ten dollars, us mney.
 Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 06:53:01 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters
















 



 


   
     
     
      On May  6, H J R <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Are you aware of GS filters causing fires?



There was someone on another group (emfrefugee) that

claimed that Stetzer filters were burning down houses.

However, since that person was selling a competing

product, I'm not so sure how seriously you should take

that comment.  



I had certainly not heard that before.



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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charles-4
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On my website, I had placed a warning about placing too many filters.
See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina12c.html
halfway the page/

Although most is in dutch, several items are in german.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.minderstraling.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Emsisoft

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: H J R
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters




  Hi Charles,

  Regarding fire risks, I think there is very little risk here. These can be constructed using simple crimp-type 'quick' connectors--which I intend to do when I can get some of those connectors this week. I soldered the first ones. I've also wired up my own telephone jacks, ground wires, light fixtures, & fixed several personal electronics devices around this apartment--I don't own a house. If I had enough assets to own/occupy a house, I would probably also be in a position to simply purchase approved GS filters and hire certified electricians to do electrical work--but I don't have the assets. Whereas a fire is a distant risk to my health & life, living with electropollution, power quality problems/etc. is a concrete, immediate & prominent risk to my health & quality of life.

  I do however appreciate your concern; it's a prickly issue with no easy answers.

  Are you aware of GS filters causing fires?



  This is the End...


  ~=~
  HJR
  _________________________________________________________
  nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
  You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)




  >________________________________
  > From: charles <[hidden email]>
  >To: [hidden email]
  >Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 4:40:09 AM
  >Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters
  >
  >
  >Sure.
  >
  >But if you make them yourself, and a fire starts, and your house burns down, the insurance does not pay anything.
  >
  >Greetings,
  >Charles Claessens
  >www.milieuziektes.nl
  >www.milieuziektes.be
  >www.minderstraling.nl
  >www.hetbitje.nl
  >checked by Emsisoft
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: H J R
  > To: [hidden email]
  > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:27 AM
  > Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > Here is a rundown of the cost for parts to make DIY 'Graham-Stetzer'-type capacitance filters:
  >
  > Component/Manufacturer, Part Number |Price
  >
  > 1. 20uF(microfarad) 180VAC Film Capacitors, 'Motor Run' type/Panasonic JS18206-AA|$6.40ea
  > 2. 27kOhm(kiloohm) 2Watt Metal Oxide Film Resistors/Panasonic ERG-2SJ273 | $0.47ea
  > 3. AC Wall Plug Enclosures /Polycase PM2314 PS Series |$3.70ea
  > http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/JS181206-AA/P9404-ND/114884
  >
  > http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/ERG-2SJ273/P27KW-2BK-ND/36452
  > http://www.polycase.com/pm2314
  > If you click on the links, you should see a photo of each component.
  >
  > NB: These prices do not include shipping &/or taxes/duties, which can be a considerable cost (I think shipping for 10 Wall Plug Enclosures was $23.00 USA to Canada)!
  >
  > This is the End...
  >
  >
  > ~=~
  > HJR
  > _________________________________________________________
  > nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
  > You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > >________________________________
  > > From: Tim <[hidden email]>
  > >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
  > >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 9:37:23 PM
  > >Subject: Re: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each
  > >
  > >
  > >VERY COOL! What's the average cost for the parts?
  > >
  > >
  > >Tim
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >________________________________
  > >From: H J R <[hidden email]>
  > >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
  > >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:10 PM
  > >Subject: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters and they work!
  > >How do I know they work? My Stetzerizer micosurge meter dropped around 50 GS units, after I installed each one!
  > >"Oh frabjous day! Caloo! Calay!"
  > >
  > >Thanks to the paper written by Martin Graham describing the specifics of the capacitance filter which would become known as the Graham-STetzer filter, I was able to track down and order the correct electronic components online and wire them up with a soldering iron quite easily.
  > >
  > >What a great discovery! I just couldn't afford to spend ~$35-40 on filters, if 10 or 20 were needed. So I took a little gamble and ordered the components to make 8 to see what the result would be. Looks like I'll be ordering components to make 10 more...
  > >
  > >Can I post pics somewhere? I'd like to photograph the components and completed filter for those interested.
  > >
  > >More L8r.
  > >
  > >
  > >
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Hud J O Ramelan
In reply to this post by Elizabeth thode

Stetzer filters can only be used on properly wired/grounded wiring
systems.What happens is the capacitative filters, which do use a small
amt of electricity,backs up on ungrounded wiring...and this can cause
arcing on the wiring, whichcan cause house fires.  This info is in the
tiny print somewhere on the Stetzer info, on instructions.So it is a
very serious issue. And many of the older houses are not properly wired. The thing is, one will see a drop in dirty electricity on the micro
surge meter,even WITH bad or ungrounded wiring, so this is not a good
indicator thatthe wiring is safe. Best way to check is to buy a "Outlet
Tester" and check EVERY outlet, to makesure the outlet is grounded. This outlet tester is less then ten dollars, us mney.
Blessings, LizzieTo:

Thank you very much Lizzie for that important information.  I have checked out my wiring and it is NOT a properly grounded system.  As I live in an apartment building (highrise) this is also outside of my control.  Looks like I'll put a hold on any more capacitance filters and unplug the 2 already installed; at least until I find out much more about the whole subject.

Once again, thanks for the head's up!
 

  This is the End...      
 

  ~=~
  HJR
_________________________________________________________
nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)




>________________________________
> From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:08:38 AM
>Subject: RE: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters
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>      On May  6, H J R <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> Are you aware of GS filters causing fires?
>
>
>
>There was someone on another group (emfrefugee) that
>
>claimed that Stetzer filters were burning down houses.
>
>However, since that person was selling a competing
>
>product, I'm not so sure how seriously you should take
>
>that comment. 
>
>
>
>I had certainly not heard that before.
>
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>
>Marc
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