I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters and they work!
How do I know they work? My Stetzerizer micosurge meter dropped around 50 GS units, after I installed each one! "Oh frabjous day! Caloo! Calay!" Thanks to the paper written by Martin Graham describing the specifics of the capacitance filter which would become known as the Graham-STetzer filter, I was able to track down and order the correct electronic components online and wire them up with a soldering iron quite easily. What a great discovery! I just couldn't afford to spend ~$35-40 on filters, if 10 or 20 were needed. So I took a little gamble and ordered the components to make 8 to see what the result would be. Looks like I'll be ordering components to make 10 more... Can I post pics somewhere? I'd like to photograph the components and completed filter for those interested. More L8r. This is the End... ~=~ HJR _________________________________________________________ nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On May 5, H J R <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters and they work! Congratulations! > Can I post pics somewhere? Yes, the group does have a "Photo Album" area: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/ Marc |
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VERY COOL! What's the average cost for the parts?
Tim ________________________________ From: H J R <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:10 PM Subject: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters and they work! How do I know they work? My Stetzerizer micosurge meter dropped around 50 GS units, after I installed each one! "Oh frabjous day! Caloo! Calay!" Thanks to the paper written by Martin Graham describing the specifics of the capacitance filter which would become known as the Graham-STetzer filter, I was able to track down and order the correct electronic components online and wire them up with a soldering iron quite easily. What a great discovery! I just couldn't afford to spend ~$35-40 on filters, if 10 or 20 were needed. So I took a little gamble and ordered the components to make 8 to see what the result would be. Looks like I'll be ordering components to make 10 more... Can I post pics somewhere? I'd like to photograph the components and completed filter for those interested. More L8r. This is the End... ~=~ HJR _________________________________________________________ nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Here is a rundown of the cost for parts to make DIY 'Graham-Stetzer'-type capacitance filters: Component/Manufacturer, Part Number |Price 1. 20uF(microfarad) 180VAC Film Capacitors, 'Motor Run' type/Panasonic JS18206-AA|$6.40ea 2. 27kOhm(kiloohm) 2Watt Metal Oxide Film Resistors/Panasonic ERG-2SJ273 | $0.47ea 3. AC Wall Plug Enclosures /Polycase PM2314 PS Series |$3.70ea http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/JS181206-AA/P9404-ND/114884 http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/ERG-2SJ273/P27KW-2BK-ND/36452 http://www.polycase.com/pm2314 If you click on the links, you should see a photo of each component. NB: These prices do not include shipping &/or taxes/duties, which can be a considerable cost (I think shipping for 10 Wall Plug Enclosures was $23.00 USA to Canada)! This is the End... ~=~ HJR _________________________________________________________ nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) >________________________________ > From: Tim <[hidden email]> >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 9:37:23 PM >Subject: Re: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each > > >VERY COOL! What's the average cost for the parts? > > >Tim > > > >________________________________ >From: H J R <[hidden email]> >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:10 PM >Subject: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each > > > > >I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters and they work! >How do I know they work? My Stetzerizer micosurge meter dropped around 50 GS units, after I installed each one! >"Oh frabjous day! Caloo! Calay!" > >Thanks to the paper written by Martin Graham describing the specifics of the capacitance filter which would become known as the Graham-STetzer filter, I was able to track down and order the correct electronic components online and wire them up with a soldering iron quite easily. > >What a great discovery! I just couldn't afford to spend ~$35-40 on filters, if 10 or 20 were needed. So I took a little gamble and ordered the components to make 8 to see what the result would be. Looks like I'll be ordering components to make 10 more... > >Can I post pics somewhere? I'd like to photograph the components and completed filter for those interested. > >More L8r. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Sure.
But if you make them yourself, and a fire starts, and your house burns down, the insurance does not pay anything. Greetings, Charles Claessens www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.minderstraling.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: H J R To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters Here is a rundown of the cost for parts to make DIY 'Graham-Stetzer'-type capacitance filters: Component/Manufacturer, Part Number |Price 1. 20uF(microfarad) 180VAC Film Capacitors, 'Motor Run' type/Panasonic JS18206-AA|$6.40ea 2. 27kOhm(kiloohm) 2Watt Metal Oxide Film Resistors/Panasonic ERG-2SJ273 | $0.47ea 3. AC Wall Plug Enclosures /Polycase PM2314 PS Series |$3.70ea http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/JS181206-AA/P9404-ND/114884 http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/ERG-2SJ273/P27KW-2BK-ND/36452 http://www.polycase.com/pm2314 If you click on the links, you should see a photo of each component. NB: These prices do not include shipping &/or taxes/duties, which can be a considerable cost (I think shipping for 10 Wall Plug Enclosures was $23.00 USA to Canada)! This is the End... ~=~ HJR _________________________________________________________ nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) >________________________________ > From: Tim <[hidden email]> >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 9:37:23 PM >Subject: Re: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each > > >VERY COOL! What's the average cost for the parts? > > >Tim > > > >________________________________ >From: H J R <[hidden email]> >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:10 PM >Subject: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each > > > > >I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters and they work! >How do I know they work? My Stetzerizer micosurge meter dropped around 50 GS units, after I installed each one! >"Oh frabjous day! Caloo! Calay!" > >Thanks to the paper written by Martin Graham describing the specifics of the capacitance filter which would become known as the Graham-STetzer filter, I was able to track down and order the correct electronic components online and wire them up with a soldering iron quite easily. > >What a great discovery! I just couldn't afford to spend ~$35-40 on filters, if 10 or 20 were needed. So I took a little gamble and ordered the components to make 8 to see what the result would be. Looks like I'll be ordering components to make 10 more... > >Can I post pics somewhere? I'd like to photograph the components and completed filter for those interested. > >More L8r. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi Charles, Regarding fire risks, I think there is very little risk here. These can be constructed using simple crimp-type 'quick' connectors--which I intend to do when I can get some of those connectors this week. I soldered the first ones. I've also wired up my own telephone jacks, ground wires, light fixtures, & fixed several personal electronics devices around this apartment--I don't own a house. If I had enough assets to own/occupy a house, I would probably also be in a position to simply purchase approved GS filters and hire certified electricians to do electrical work--but I don't have the assets. Whereas a fire is a distant risk to my health & life, living with electropollution, power quality problems/etc. is a concrete, immediate & prominent risk to my health & quality of life. I do however appreciate your concern; it's a prickly issue with no easy answers. Are you aware of GS filters causing fires? This is the End... ~=~ HJR _________________________________________________________ nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) >________________________________ > From: charles <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 4:40:09 AM >Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters > > >Sure. > >But if you make them yourself, and a fire starts, and your house burns down, the insurance does not pay anything. > >Greetings, >Charles Claessens >www.milieuziektes.nl >www.milieuziektes.be >www.minderstraling.nl >www.hetbitje.nl >checked by Emsisoft > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: H J R > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:27 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters > > > > > Here is a rundown of the cost for parts to make DIY 'Graham-Stetzer'-type capacitance filters: > > Component/Manufacturer, Part Number |Price > > 1. 20uF(microfarad) 180VAC Film Capacitors, 'Motor Run' type/Panasonic JS18206-AA|$6.40ea > 2. 27kOhm(kiloohm) 2Watt Metal Oxide Film Resistors/Panasonic ERG-2SJ273 | $0.47ea > 3. AC Wall Plug Enclosures /Polycase PM2314 PS Series |$3.70ea > http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/JS181206-AA/P9404-ND/114884 > > http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/ERG-2SJ273/P27KW-2BK-ND/36452 > http://www.polycase.com/pm2314 > If you click on the links, you should see a photo of each component. > > NB: These prices do not include shipping &/or taxes/duties, which can be a considerable cost (I think shipping for 10 Wall Plug Enclosures was $23.00 USA to Canada)! > > This is the End... > > > ~=~ > HJR > _________________________________________________________ > nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet > You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Tim <[hidden email]> > >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 9:37:23 PM > >Subject: Re: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each > > > > > >VERY COOL! What's the average cost for the parts? > > > > > >Tim > > > > > > > >________________________________ > >From: H J R <[hidden email]> > >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:10 PM > >Subject: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each > > > > > > > > > >I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters and they work! > >How do I know they work? My Stetzerizer micosurge meter dropped around 50 GS units, after I installed each one! > >"Oh frabjous day! Caloo! Calay!" > > > >Thanks to the paper written by Martin Graham describing the specifics of the capacitance filter which would become known as the Graham-STetzer filter, I was able to track down and order the correct electronic components online and wire them up with a soldering iron quite easily. > > > >What a great discovery! I just couldn't afford to spend ~$35-40 on filters, if 10 or 20 were needed. So I took a little gamble and ordered the components to make 8 to see what the result would be. Looks like I'll be ordering components to make 10 more... > > > >Can I post pics somewhere? I'd like to photograph the components and completed filter for those interested. > > > >More L8r. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >------------------------------------ > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On May 6, H J R <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Are you aware of GS filters causing fires? There was someone on another group (emfrefugee) that claimed that Stetzer filters were burning down houses. However, since that person was selling a competing product, I'm not so sure how seriously you should take that comment. I had certainly not heard that before. Marc |
Stetzer filters can only be used on properly wired/grounded wiring systems.What happens is the capacitative filters, which do use a small amt of electricity,backs up on ungrounded wiring...and this can cause arcing on the wiring, whichcan cause house fires. This info is in the tiny print somewhere on the Stetzer info, on instructions.So it is a very serious issue. And many of the older houses are not properly wired. The thing is, one will see a drop in dirty electricity on the micro surge meter,even WITH bad or ungrounded wiring, so this is not a good indicator thatthe wiring is safe. Best way to check is to buy a "Outlet Tester" and check EVERY outlet, to makesure the outlet is grounded. This outlet tester is less then ten dollars, us mney.
Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 06:53:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters On May 6, H J R <[hidden email]> wrote: > Are you aware of GS filters causing fires? There was someone on another group (emfrefugee) that claimed that Stetzer filters were burning down houses. However, since that person was selling a competing product, I'm not so sure how seriously you should take that comment. I had certainly not heard that before. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On my website, I had placed a warning about placing too many filters.
See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina12c.html halfway the page/ Although most is in dutch, several items are in german. Greetings, Charles Claessens www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.minderstraling.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: H J R To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters Hi Charles, Regarding fire risks, I think there is very little risk here. These can be constructed using simple crimp-type 'quick' connectors--which I intend to do when I can get some of those connectors this week. I soldered the first ones. I've also wired up my own telephone jacks, ground wires, light fixtures, & fixed several personal electronics devices around this apartment--I don't own a house. If I had enough assets to own/occupy a house, I would probably also be in a position to simply purchase approved GS filters and hire certified electricians to do electrical work--but I don't have the assets. Whereas a fire is a distant risk to my health & life, living with electropollution, power quality problems/etc. is a concrete, immediate & prominent risk to my health & quality of life. I do however appreciate your concern; it's a prickly issue with no easy answers. Are you aware of GS filters causing fires? This is the End... ~=~ HJR _________________________________________________________ nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) >________________________________ > From: charles <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 4:40:09 AM >Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters > > >Sure. > >But if you make them yourself, and a fire starts, and your house burns down, the insurance does not pay anything. > >Greetings, >Charles Claessens >www.milieuziektes.nl >www.milieuziektes.be >www.minderstraling.nl >www.hetbitje.nl >checked by Emsisoft > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: H J R > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:27 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters > > > > > Here is a rundown of the cost for parts to make DIY 'Graham-Stetzer'-type capacitance filters: > > Component/Manufacturer, Part Number |Price > > 1. 20uF(microfarad) 180VAC Film Capacitors, 'Motor Run' type/Panasonic JS18206-AA|$6.40ea > 2. 27kOhm(kiloohm) 2Watt Metal Oxide Film Resistors/Panasonic ERG-2SJ273 | $0.47ea > 3. AC Wall Plug Enclosures /Polycase PM2314 PS Series |$3.70ea > http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/JS181206-AA/P9404-ND/114884 > > http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/ERG-2SJ273/P27KW-2BK-ND/36452 > http://www.polycase.com/pm2314 > If you click on the links, you should see a photo of each component. > > NB: These prices do not include shipping &/or taxes/duties, which can be a considerable cost (I think shipping for 10 Wall Plug Enclosures was $23.00 USA to Canada)! > > This is the End... > > > ~=~ > HJR > _________________________________________________________ > nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet > You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Tim <[hidden email]> > >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 9:37:23 PM > >Subject: Re: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each > > > > > >VERY COOL! What's the average cost for the parts? > > > > > >Tim > > > > > > > >________________________________ > >From: H J R <[hidden email]> > >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > >Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:10 PM > >Subject: [eSens] DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters for $10 each > > > > > > > > > >I just put together my first 2 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters and they work! > >How do I know they work? My Stetzerizer micosurge meter dropped around 50 GS units, after I installed each one! > >"Oh frabjous day! Caloo! Calay!" > > > >Thanks to the paper written by Martin Graham describing the specifics of the capacitance filter which would become known as the Graham-STetzer filter, I was able to track down and order the correct electronic components online and wire them up with a soldering iron quite easily. > > > >What a great discovery! I just couldn't afford to spend ~$35-40 on filters, if 10 or 20 were needed. So I took a little gamble and ordered the components to make 8 to see what the result would be. Looks like I'll be ordering components to make 10 more... > > > >Can I post pics somewhere? I'd like to photograph the components and completed filter for those interested. > > > >More L8r. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >------------------------------------ > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Stetzer filters can only be used on properly wired/grounded wiring systems.What happens is the capacitative filters, which do use a small amt of electricity,backs up on ungrounded wiring...and this can cause arcing on the wiring, whichcan cause house fires. This info is in the tiny print somewhere on the Stetzer info, on instructions.So it is a very serious issue. And many of the older houses are not properly wired. The thing is, one will see a drop in dirty electricity on the micro surge meter,even WITH bad or ungrounded wiring, so this is not a good indicator thatthe wiring is safe. Best way to check is to buy a "Outlet Tester" and check EVERY outlet, to makesure the outlet is grounded. This outlet tester is less then ten dollars, us mney. Blessings, LizzieTo: Thank you very much Lizzie for that important information. I have checked out my wiring and it is NOT a properly grounded system. As I live in an apartment building (highrise) this is also outside of my control. Looks like I'll put a hold on any more capacitance filters and unplug the 2 already installed; at least until I find out much more about the whole subject. Once again, thanks for the head's up! This is the End... ~=~ HJR _________________________________________________________ nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) >________________________________ > From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:08:38 AM >Subject: RE: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters > > > [hidden email] >From: [hidden email] >Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 06:53:01 -0700 >Subject: Re: [eSens] PARTS COST for DIY 'Graham-Stetzer' -type filters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, H J R <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Are you aware of GS filters causing fires? > > > >There was someone on another group (emfrefugee) that > >claimed that Stetzer filters were burning down houses. > >However, since that person was selling a competing > >product, I'm not so sure how seriously you should take > >that comment. > > > >I had certainly not heard that before. > > > >Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >------------------------------------ > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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