Construction Tips for the Environmentally Sensitive

>
>
> To Julie,
>
> Have you set up a fund or otherwise acknowledged or
> given credit to the 18 individuals that you
> "surveyed"?
>
> ES is a devastating disease and it looks like these
> individuals did a lot of hands on research for you.
>
> You cite a number of ideas that are new or at least
> run contrary to the prevailing wisdom in the ES field.
> For example, you state:
>
> "Avoid hard wired smoke alarms (but you may need to
> install them initially to meet the local building
> code)."
>
> I agree with this statement. However a large number
> of people would disagree. Most ES books don't even
> cover the topic of or refer to fire alarms. Do you
> have proof or done any testing to show that fire
> alarms are a source of Electrical Sensitivity?
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Nick Llynch
>
>
>
>
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> Safer Construction Tips for the Environmentally
> Sensitive
>
>
> Posted by: "lunagirl32002" j_genser@...  
> lunagirl32002
>
>
> Thu Oct 4, 2007 2:44 am (PST)
>
> Hello all,
> I am excited to announce that our Safer Construction
> Tips for the
> Environmentally Sensitive brochure is now online. This
> is a FREE
> 38-page, read-only, full color brochure based on the
> results of a
> survey of 18 people who completed a safer construction
> project for
> someone with moderate-severe chemical and/or
> electrical sensitivities
> themselves. I began this project as a coordinator for
> MCS-Global in
> 2005. Melinda Honn and Greg Conrad were instrumental
> in creating this
> brochure, as well. There is a whole section on
> lowering EMFs.
>
> http://planetthrive.com/cgi-bin/members/pub9990237067534.cgi
>
> Would love your feedback!
> Julie
>
> Julie Genser
> founder and director
> Planet Thrive, Inc.
> www.PlanetThrive.com
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>
>
> To Julie,
>
> Have you set up a fund or otherwise acknowledged or
> given credit to the 18 individuals that you
> "surveyed"?
>
> ES is a devastating disease and it looks like these
> individuals did a lot of hands on research for you.
>
> You cite a number of ideas that are new or at least
> run contrary to the prevailing wisdom in the ES field.
> For example, you state:
>
> "Avoid hard wired smoke alarms (but you may need to
> install them initially to meet the local building
> code)."
>
> I agree with this statement. However a large number
> of people would disagree. Most ES books don't even
> cover the topic of or refer to fire alarms. Do you
> have proof or done any testing to show that fire
> alarms are a source of Electrical Sensitivity?
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Nick Llynch
>
>
>
>
> -------------------
>
> Safer Construction Tips for the Environmentally
> Sensitive
>
>
> Posted by: "lunagirl32002" j_genser@...  
> lunagirl32002
>
>
> Thu Oct 4, 2007 2:44 am (PST)
>
> Hello all,
> I am excited to announce that our Safer Construction
> Tips for the
> Environmentally Sensitive brochure is now online. This
> is a FREE
> 38-page, read-only, full color brochure based on the
> results of a
> survey of 18 people who completed a safer construction
> project for
> someone with moderate-severe chemical and/or
> electrical sensitivities
> themselves. I began this project as a coordinator for
> MCS-Global in
> 2005. Melinda Honn and Greg Conrad were instrumental
> in creating this
> brochure, as well. There is a whole section on
> lowering EMFs.
>
> http://planetthrive.com/cgi-bin/members/pub9990237067534.cgi
>
> Would love your feedback!
> Julie
>
> Julie Genser
> founder and director
> Planet Thrive, Inc.
> www.PlanetThrive.com
>
>
>
>
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>      

> Hi Nick,
> Thank you for your comments. The 18 individuals were
> kept anonymous in order to
> protect their privacy. But you make a good point and
> I will re-address the issue to make
> sure noone feels they are not credited adequately.
>
> Please see the disclaimer on the brochure. I am no
> expert in non-toxic construction and I
> have not built my own safe house yet. This brochure
> is in no way comprehensive or
> complete. It is based on the completed surveys of
> those that have already built their own
> housing for someone with moderate to severe chemical
> and/or electrical sensitivities. All
> but one of the construction projects were completed
> way before my survey began; no one
> was actively doing hands-on research for this
> project. The participants filled out a survey
> in 2005 when I started the project, and I have been
> working on it ever since.
>
> The tips in the brochure are from people who built
> their own house and reflect what
> worked for them. As stated multiple times in the
> brochure, due to the highly individual
> nature of environmental illnesses, the only way to
> know if something will work for you is
> to test each item yourself.
>
> I have no scientific proof or testing of anything in
> the brochure; this brochure is mostly
> anecdotal in that regard although I am not
> discounting that scientific proof may indeed
> exist. In my personal experience, 'science' has not
> done a good job of 'proving' what ails
> me at all and I trust my body more than any report
> or test.
>
> The smoke alarm example you refer to was a tip from
> one of the surveys. I'm not sure why
> this would be counter to prevailing wisdom in the ES
> community. Wouldn't any electrical
> appliance be a potential source of unwanted EMF
> radiation? There is a wide range of
> sensitivity levels and types within the ES
> community. A smoke alarm might not bother a
> high percentage of those with ES, but we thought it
> was worth mentioning for the
> percentage that it does affect.
>
> Again, these are merely 'tips' or suggestions and
> each person needs to individually test
> materials/appliances/methods to customize to their
> own situation.
>
> I hope that adequately addresses your concerns.
> Best, Julie
>
> --- In [hidden email], Nick Lynch
> <nickllynch@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > To Julie,
> >
> > Have you set up a fund or otherwise acknowledged
> or
> > given credit to the 18 individuals that you
> > "surveyed"?
> >
> > ES is a devastating disease and it looks like
> these
> > individuals did a lot of hands on research for
> you.
> >
> > You cite a number of ideas that are new or at
> least
> > run contrary to the prevailing wisdom in the ES
> field.
> > For example, you state:
> >
> > "Avoid hard wired smoke alarms (but you may need
> to
> > install them initially to meet the local building
> > code)."
> >
> > I agree with this statement. However a large
> number
> > of people would disagree. Most ES books don't
> even
> > cover the topic of or refer to fire alarms. Do
> you
> > have proof or done any testing to show that fire
> > alarms are a source of Electrical Sensitivity?
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Nick Llynch
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------------
> >
> > Safer Construction Tips for the Environmentally
> > Sensitive
> >
> >
> > Posted by: "lunagirl32002" j_genser@...  
> > lunagirl32002
> >
> >
> > Thu Oct 4, 2007 2:44 am (PST)
> >
> > Hello all,
> > I am excited to announce that our Safer
> Construction
> > Tips for the
> > Environmentally Sensitive brochure is now online.
> This
> > is a FREE
> > 38-page, read-only, full color brochure based on
> the
> > results of a
> > survey of 18 people who completed a safer
> construction
> > project for
> > someone with moderate-severe chemical and/or
> > electrical sensitivities
> > themselves. I began this project as a coordinator
> for
> > MCS-Global in
> > 2005. Melinda Honn and Greg Conrad were
> instrumental
> > in creating this
> > brochure, as well. There is a whole section on
> > lowering EMFs.
> >
> >
>

> >
> > Would love your feedback!
> > Julie
> >
> > Julie Genser
> > founder and director
> > Planet Thrive, Inc.
> > www.PlanetThrive.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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>

>
>
> Hi Julie,
>
> I think it is important to recognize the contributions
> of individuals with Electrical Sensitivity who conduct
> empirical research. Many of these individuals will be
> extremely ostracized by society by their illness
> (including the ES/Bioelectromagnetics research
> community itself) and need some positive affirmation
> of their illness. Many will not be online. Have you
> encouraged them to network with each other? I would
> be surprised if they are not looking to connect with
> other individuals who share their illness. I hope
> that you have at least asked them if they would like
> their name printed in your study as Contributors.

> Hi Nick,
> I agree that it is important to recognize
> contributors to the
> brochure, but only if they wish to be credited. All
> contributors who
> supplied me with current contact info have been
> asked if they would
> like to be credited in the brochure. Many prefer to
> remain anonymous.
> I will reissue the brochure if anyone desires to be
> named publicly but
> so far noone has said so. Many of those with severe
> electrical
> sensitivity who filled out the survey live in an
> MCS/ES community
> already and have connected with many other families
> in the same situation.
>
> I get the feeling from your emails to me that you
> think I am someone
> from outside the ES community who has taken
> information from an
> ostracized community for my own use with no regard
> for those who
> participated. I myself suffer from severe MCS and
> now ES in the last
> six months. This project was a labor of love through
> many months of
> sickness, relocations, and stress/trauma. I also
> created a website
> during this time offering 'virtual' community to
> those with
> environmental illness and we have over 750 members
> now. All this
> without any income. My intentions have always been
> first and foremost
> to help others like me who are suffering alone to
> connect with each
> other and have access to important information that
> could help
> alleviate their suffering.
>
> This brochure is just a guide and is not the last
> word on MCS/ES
> construction. I did not research 'prevailing
> wisdom'; I surveyed those
> who built homes for themselves and asked for them to
> share what worked
> and what didn't. That is the purpose of this
> brochure. Hopefully, you
> and others will be able to glean some helpful
> information from it. It
> won't help everyone and not everything in it will
> apply to every
> situation. Please keep that in mind.
>
> Thanks for your comments.
> Julie
> www.PlanetThrive.com
>
> --- In [hidden email], Nick Lynch
> <nickllynch@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Julie,
> >
> > I think it is important to recognize the
> contributions
> > of individuals with Electrical Sensitivity who
> conduct
> > empirical research. Many of these individuals
> will be
> > extremely ostracized by society by their illness
> > (including the ES/Bioelectromagnetics research
> > community itself) and need some positive
> affirmation
> > of their illness. Many will not be online. Have
> you
> > encouraged them to network with each other? I
> would
> > be surprised if they are not looking to connect
> with
> > other individuals who share their illness. I hope
> > that you have at least asked them if they would
> like
> > their name printed in your study as Contributors.
>
>
>

>
>
> Hi Julie,
>
> I am surprised that not one of the 18 individuals
> wished to be named. I am glad that you asked them.
>
> I am curious to hear about the MCS/ES communities to
> which you refer. Do you have the addresses and names
> of these communities?
>
> Congratulations on your virtual community and
> brochure. The brochure was well done and informative.
>
> Kind regards,
> Nick Llynch