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Thanks, Ole, will look up those links. K --- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: > > Magnesium is a vital electrolyte for heart, it seems you have a serious deficiency, try topical transdermal magnesium oil from the Zechstein source > > > http://www.zechsteinmagnesium.com/ > > You can order a genuine Zechstein product here > > http://www.iherb.com/Life-Flo-Health-Pure-Magnesium-Oil-8-oz-236-6-ml/33840 > http://www.iherb.com/Life-Flo-Health-Pure-Magnesium-Flakes-Magnesium-Chloride-Brine-2-75-lb-44-oz/39710 > > Potassium - best food source is to drink pure coconut water, not from concentrate. Brands like Vitacoco or O.N.E are found in 32 oz. natural. > > Â > > > > >________________________________ > > From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...> > >To: [hidden email] > >Sent: Monday, 23 April 2012, 22:01 > >Subject: [eSens] Re: Concentrace Ionic Minerals - strong reaction & MRI > > > > > >Â > > > > > >Heavy metals by mouth in small quantities can also be > >healing as in homeopathy, Tibetan medicine, Ayurvedic > >medicine. > > > >Mercury toxicity is from inhalation. But of course, it can be toxic > >if taken in large quantities, as for any other minerals. > > > >I know that the Tibetan and Ayur docs use those, > >its processed in a special way and is not toxic. > > > >They had bad press for a while. Further readings > >show that indeed its processed in specific way, > >as to be harmless. > > > >Same for arsenic, it can also be therapeutic as for cancer cells. > > > >I have to choose between getting the minerals which I severely > >lack somehow, or risk a heart attack or stroke with those constant > >arrythmias. > > > >I was over the moon when I took the Concentrace, even though > >it cause an allergic response, gone were the arrythmias. > > > >There is no simple answer. I can eat about 10 foods and drink > >water. But since the reaction to the Concentrace, I can only eat > >4 out of the ten foods. > > > >There is a real urgency to supplement those minerals. I tried > >nettle which contains high amount of minerals, but reacted to that > >too. Constantly trying and striving to find a solution. Time is > >no longer a luxury. > > > >--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote: > >> > >> > >> We all need trace minerals, but I seriously doubt anyone needs > >> what's in this product. No wonder you had a reaction. > >> > >> HOLY CRAP! > >> Did ya happen to take a LOOK at the ingredients > >> in Morten's product??????????? > >> Contains MERCURY! Plus other heavy metals- I have high lighted these, > >> take from the label of this product. > >> > >> Now I have to ask, why in the world, would a TOXIC mineral, > >> be included in a supposed health product! > >> Lizzie > >> > >> Each bottle of Trace Minerals contains 1 ounce. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Range of 4.5 - 27 > >> > >> grams per liter > >> > >> Range of 0.10 - 230 > >> > >> milligrams per liter > >> > >> Range of <0.50 - 145 > >> > >> micrograms per liter > >> > >> > >> Iron > >> > >> Magnesium > >> > >> Sulfur > >> > >> Aluminum > >> > >> Chromium > >> > >> Calcium > >> > >> Carbon > >> > >> Phosphorus > >> > >> Nickel > >> > >> Bismuth > >> > >> Manganese > >> > >> Silicon > >> > >> Selenium > >> > >> Zinc > >> > >> Boron > >> > >> Cobalt > >> > >> Lanthanum > >> > >> Thalium > >> > >> Thulium > >> > >> Germanium > >> > >> Beryllium > >> > >> Thenium > >> > >> Tin > >> > >> Antimony > >> > >> Cerium > >> > >> Cesium > >> > >> Arsenic > >> > >> Zirconium > >> > >> Strontium > >> > >> Neodymium > >> > >> Lead > >> > >> Chlorine > >> > >> Lithium > >> > >> Bromine > >> > >> Sodium > >> > >> Yittrium > >> > >> Gadolinium > >> > >> Samarium > >> > >> Titanium > >> > >> Potassium > >> > >> Iodine > >> > >> Fluorine > >> > >> Cadmium > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> Dysprosium > >> > >> Rubidium > >> > >> Erbium > >> > >> Vanadium > >> > >> Scandium > >> > >> Yitterbium > >> > >> Rutherium > >> > >> Lutetium > >> > >> Holmium > >> > >> Praseodymium > >> > >> Terbium > >> > >> Barium > >> > >> Tellurium > >> > >> Niobium > >> > >> Copper > >> > >> Palladium > >> > >> Halfnium > >> > >> Tantalum > >> > >> Tungsten > >> > >> Molybdenum > >> > >> Europium > >> > >> Gallium > >> > >> Gold > >> > >> Osmium > >> > >> Platinum > >> > >> Rhodium > >> > >> Indium > >> > >> Silver > >> > >> Thorium > >> > >> Iridium > >> > >> To: [hidden email] > >> From: furstc0404@ > >> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:08:30 +0000 > >> Subject: [eSens] Re: Concentrace Ionic Minerals - strong reaction & MRI > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quite a dilemma!! > >> > >> It was effective - zero arrythmia > >> > >> Not coincidental. Tried it for three days. > >> > >> Had to give up. Ended up in ER last night > >> > >> swollen mucous at the back of the throat, > >> > >> lasted six hours. Took no meds, waited it out. > >> > >> > >> > >> Definitely allergic to something in it, or ??? > >> > >> > >> > >> What do you mean by bad minerals? > >> > >> How to excrete safely? > >> > >> > >> > >> More importantly, I need the minerals. > >> > >> Ordered on line Dr Morten's plant sourced > >> > >> minerals. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > This may not be a contamination issue at all. > >> > >> > If one consumes good minerals, > >> > >> > the body can exchange those good minerals for > >> > >> > those bad minerals that are currently in your > >> > >> > body. Those mobilized bad minerals can then > >> > >> > cause symptoms if they are not excreted. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Marc > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Measuring heavy metal toxins in hair samples
Hi, Marc just stumbled across your site while researching. I have been researching heavy metals toxicity and just wanted to link out to it as I though it is genuinely relevant to this post. Heavy metals from environmental exposure (mercury from fish for example) are becoming a real problem; there are stories in the news on a daily basis. There is a reliable method check your body for heavy metals, but it is still considered “alternative”. Mainstream health professionals usually denounce it as quackery. The main culprit of denouncing testing hair for minerals is if it quacks like http://www.quackwatch.com/ Seems that this particular site; (According to truthwiki.org ) is funded by companies that have a stake, (biotech industry) in disparaging alternative health therapies. The truthwiki.org link is well worth a read. Using hair for minerals testing seems to be a real viable method to determine your exposure levels to heavy metals. There is over 40 years of research backing this up. I think the reason there was historically questions raised about the effectiveness of measuring toxin levels or minerals in hair samples was that different companies had different testing protocols leading to variation in the results from reports. However, in the modern era of science there has been a lot of progress made concerning standardising the methods used to deliver consistent results. Anyone interested in finding out more about what metals are tested for, how sensitive the tests are and the procedure in general can find links to peer reviewed studies and general information on my site. I have been trying to piece together as much information as I can about the subject. Its a work in progress, I plan to keep adding more info and linking out to relevant sites and topics. If anyone on the forum has any questions or wants to look at a sample report for free to see what toxic metals and minerals are covered, you can find a link here mineralstate.co.uk . cheers, Lee |
Re: Concentrace Ionic Minerals - strong reaction & MRI
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Yes, heavy metal poisoning is definitely relevant here, as we've seen many people improve by treating their condition as heavy metal poisoning. And certainly I can look back on all the mercury amalgam fillings I've had, all the tuna fish I've eaten, all the allergy shots I got as a kid (preserved with mercury), and the contact lenses I've had since a kid (cleaning solution preserved with mercury), and see that I've had plenty of exposure.
I've done the hair tests... the first one indicated a problem, although I think hair tests can have "false negatives". The proof seems to be to see how you do with attempting to do a heavy metal detox. If you have a good reaction, or especially if you have a bad initial reaction, then that is something one should focus on. In the old days, I used NDF (BioRay) for heavy metal detox, but in recent years I've switched to MetalSweep (BioPure), which is almost the same thing as IMD (Quicksilver Scientific). And to assist with bad reactions to mobilized metals, I've used Microhydrin (Royal Body Care) or Megahydrate (Flanagan). Marc |
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Might make sense as you are putting more metal in the body...which will attract electric charge. Wonder if lithium (for bipolar) does the same.
I don't know this; just guessing. |
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I use Spectramin by Energetix, up to 2 droppers a day never have any problems.
You REALLY need to learn how to muscle test yourself with your supplements. Helps a lot with knowing what will help or hurt your body. I've gotten to the point where just touching the supplements I can get a good idea whether or not my body wants it. |
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This post was updated on .
One of the best things to combat EMF symptoms is minerals, so its a good thing to find minerals that work for you. They provide a lot of relief. I have had instant relief from some symptoms by taking minerals.
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In contrast to other replies, maybe, Steven MacGee in one of his books (I think overcoming emf sensitivity) says he got some relief by loading up on minerals and making his body a battery! Initially I felt some relief taking "salt stick" (brand name).
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Lynne, I think there is a big difference between minerals that have been heated, as in the metals that are byproducts of industrial processes - and metals that occur in nature, processed through the leaves of plants or that show up deep in the ground or in the ocean. TraceMinerals company is in Salt Lake City and they supposedly simply collect the water in and around that big “lake” and bottle it.
At least I think that’s what they do. if it bothers you, tho, it might be that they heat the water or the salt. In that case, you might want to try buying some sun-dried celtic salt and dropping a grain or two in the water you drink. I’ve done both and I am leaning toward the celtic salt. Bodies need minerals but processed minerals are simply not the same as natural ones. I remember seeing an article about field burning. In its natural state, cellulose is rather harmless… but when cellulose is burned, it becomes harder and sharper than asbestos. The smoke is very hard on the lungs. The difference is in the heat. Heat does something to food… nutrients are diminished by cooking. love, patricia |
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I just checked the celtic sea salt mineral content and I am pretty sure this has too low mineral content to help a body that is suffering from EHS.
IT might help with hydration but not building up the mineral deposits in the body which is VERY important to an EHS person. Minerals and heavy metals are both an important issue with EHS Heavy metals weakens the immune system and the Bio Field/auric field/Electromagnetic field of the body. (the theory about it makes the body an antenna might be true. but I am not sure. because I think I know people who have lots of heavy metals but don't suffer from EHS). Minerals is very important to strengthen the Bio field/ bodys own emf field. I speak from experience. I have almost healed my EHS totally so I speak from experience. And I was VERY sensitive. We need Copper, Iodine, Calcium!!, magnesium, potassium!!, selen, zinc, manganese and so on. so a grain or two of celtic salt is not enough Much Love |
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hawk, this is my understanding:
sea salt is identical in composition to our intercellular fluids. it contains all the minerals, in the same proportions that the body needs. sun-dried sea salt should be the perfect combination of minerals to support our health. “heavy” metals, on the other hand, are man-made, the dregs of industrial processes. they should not be ingested. car exhaust, aluminum from smelting plants, etc… these are the heavy metals that poison us. my heavy metal exposure came when i worked for a semi-conductor company and took a ‘break’ from my usual duties to help dash-smash a bunch of discs that had been rejected from the manufacturing process. the metals had been processed, were baked layer upon layer with heavy precious metals… and i inhaled the dust. my ankles became as thick as baseballs (i am a very petite person) and my eyelids puffed up as big as golf balls. i looked in the mirror that night when i got home and SCREAMED… i think that the minerals in natural, sun-dried sea water are very different from man-made, isolated minerals dispersed in the air, water, food, etc… some cities use ozone to purify water… we use chemicals. fluoride is a byproduct/waste from the aluminum industry. we are being bombarded with aluminum, strontium, barium (bury ‘em?) in the air. our foods are full of ‘not naturally occurring’ metals. there is a video on youtube that shows how the “iron” in some breakfast cereals is truly IRON… as in iron fragments, iron shavings, that can be collected with magnets. we’re under siege. i’m glad you are doing well. yippee for you!!!!! i feel pretty darned good too. :) we do need all those minerals - and they are all in celtic sea salt… i don’t know what you read, but perhaps you can forward the link to me??? thanks. love, patricia |
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yes there is alot of attack on our health and our beings/consciousness. And i sometimes feel that the people with es knows this more than non-ehs people. and we have experienced a very hard version of ths beautiful place , even though i am not very sensitive anymore i know the dangers of it(the tech we sourrounded with). and i remember how sick it made me feel. and i learned alot through that experience. I now the pain and i care. thats why i am speaking out my experience... what helped me.
i am saying, Salt water is not enough for building up the body deposits with minerals. i do take epsom salt and potassium in my drinking water and it makes me feel energetic. So yes i know the power of electrolytes. i am sitting next to a wifi router 6 hours a day. but i use cable so the signal is 2 meters away. I also take vit B3 1000mg, vit b complex and 3 capsules of full spectrum of minerals each day. electrolytes + water = energy = Stronger biofield. Peace |
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So do you think "Es", which I have too, is caused by some or all of the following: Toxic overload leading to large heavy metal accumulation. Poisoning specifically - with leaking mercury source- from a source imbuing you with heavy metals. A weak immune sytem, perhaps damgaed by and long-term host to - various parasites/viruses? A synergistic combination of the above. A precipitating event like an electric shock, or 6 months intense exposure to mobile'phones, or a tower nearby. Damage to nerves including the myelin sheath. Psycho-social trauma damaging energetic expression thus auric health, perhaps stunting usual pathways of growth in the nervous system. Increased spiritual/perceptual acuity leading to sensitivity to these fields perforce causing the body to react and be weakened by the same. Just wondering what sort of mix of these factors or others you think could "cause "ES""? Be grateful for your thoughts and reflections, best wishes, Sylvan. On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Hawk [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote: yes there is alot of attack on our health and our beings/consciousness. And i sometimes feel that the people with es knows this more than non-ehs people. and we have experienced a very hard version of ths beautiful place , even though i am not very sensitive anymore i know the dangers of it(the tech we sourrounded with). and i remember how sick it made me feel. and i learned alot through that experience. I now the pain and i care. thats why i am speaking out my experience... what helped me. |
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Hallo again.
Sorry for not answering. Your post made me quite humble because I recognize the pain and frustration also an deep understanding and helplessness. Are you getting better ? are you detoxing metals and building up with minerals ? calcium, iodine and so on. I think you are on point with all that you mention. thats why i did not know what to write in response. Can you expand on what you say about electric shock ? Did you get electric shock in your body ? We can discuss back and forth alot, but thats not the point here. Getting better is the point. It is very easy to fall into the victim role here. I have done that alot. Being alone with ehs is very though. But setting the intention for healing and then take the first step will most likely lead you to your next step in your healing which might be more important then the first. again sorry for late reply. Hope you are doing Good Sylvan. |
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I started taking concentrace since it is a little less expensive than the Spectramin I have been taking from the doctor. I haven't had any problems or reactions, only positive response. Just this month I switched from the basic concentrace to the Ionic Tonic which has 72 different minerals plus added magnesium, vitamin C, and potassium just to mention a few in addition to the concentrace. My body LOVES this stuff. I can definitely tell its making me stronger and alleviating more of my symptoms. I am taking one full capful a day as instructed. I have to control myself to not take more than the recommended amount because I feel like my body is craving it. The minerals help me so much.
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And just to say... I've been taking either Spectramin or concentrace now for over a year without problems, only benefits. Its possible you may be sensitive to something in it that I'm not. Everyone has different sensitivities, but I can say for me it hasn't been bad, on the contrary it has been amazing.
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Also some bodies just have a hard time with concentrated minerals...
You might try some other minerals. I like "Organically Bound Minerals" by Standard Process and take that in addition to the concentrated minerals. If you are seeing a naturopath you should be able to get some or try some different types to see what works for you. |
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why don't you let your body tell you whats the recommended dosage ? you say it is craving it.. maybe your body is trying to tell you something. i was on double dose for a year( 4 caps a day) now i am on 3 caps. recommended dosage is 2 caps. i use Now Foods full spectrum mineral caps. |
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oh no! ok that is upsetting because i was thinking about trying this recently. water here was bothering me(different issues from es though), and new filter did not fix it,, and bottled at store bothered me too!! and some type of brand from particular store different from other..so i was wanting try distilled.
not sure exact search but found http://www.survivopedia.com/how-to-re-mineralize-water/ and thought of trying concentrace or clay. |
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by ''This'' you mean concentrace(i thought was liquid) brand or, or some other ''crystal salt rocks'' for 4 years?
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Sorry for not responding Hawk , Thank you for that. Yes, take one step , and determine to heal. I am doing that. I have been doing small things. I am actually lucky to be in a very low-emf environment .I am going to try taking minerals. Enzyme's international make some . They come from a natural deposit in the ground somewhere : so not plant-based, not sea-derived but so far as I know extremely palatable for the body and not toxic or damaging . They include even poisons like tiny amounts of arsenic, but not in this form organically incompatible. Then I plan to do a liver cleanse, some detoxing, and what I have never done in my life before- mineral detoxing. I will do enough to see if the heavy metal hypothesis has much credibility in my case. Victim !!!! Ha!!!!!! Yes I have been feeling a victim. Feels my situation is impossible to a high exponential degree - with about 7 impossible existential barriers. And they cluster around this "EHS" which feels like the clincher. Thank you for your words, best wishes, Sylvan. On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Hawk [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote: why don't you let your body tell you whats the recommended dosage ? you say it is craving it.. maybe your body is trying to tell you something. |
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