Thanks Marc.
I'm going to try cable using a regular ethernet cord and a modem with no wireless capability. Thanks again, Susan On 9/19/15, Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > They do make shielded (and grounded) ethernet cables, but in my brief > experiments I found these to make my symptoms worse, so I instead just use > regular ethernet cables. > > Also, my solution to DSL problems was to abandon it and go to cable instead. > Still using ethernet cabling, and purchasing my own modem that has no > wireless capability. > > Marc > > > _______________________________________________ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://es-forum.com/Computers-tp4027457p4028226.html > > To unsubscribe from Computers, visit > |
I cleaned out over 100 bookmarks last night, when I found this: http://www.amazon.com/formerly-Ambit-U10C018-DOCSIS-Cable/dp/B0088R1P06/ref=sr_1_19?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1434970488&sr=1-19&keywords=cable+modem
My best guess is that someone on one of the ES places mentioned it at one time and I kept it. I have no ideas much about it, so you will have to do you homework on it and then when you are done with that do more homework yet to make sure it is safe. I think I may have it bookmarked, as I have DSL and keeping it, but my current cable modem that is packed away works on only AC. Have no idea what cable companies will accept this or if it can be converted for use on DC power system and hope I never have to find out. Anyway it's worth checking on or something else of the like. |
Oops PS: You probably know already that a DSL modem, will not work w/ cable. Nor will a cable modem work w/ DSL. Always check compatibility ahead of time, with the provider and get the person's name that you verify it with. 9 times out of 10 they come back at install time and try to tell you that you can not use it, as they want you to shell out for one of theirs. I have always been firm on this and made a stink till they got mine working.
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Thanks I appreciate the information.
Susan On 9/21/15, JDark [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Oops PS: You probably know already that a DSL modem, will not work w/ > cable. > Nor will a cable modem work w/ DSL. Always check compatibility ahead of > time, with the provider and get the person's name that you verify it with. > 9 > times out of 10 they come back at install time and try to tell you that you > can not use it, as they want you to shell out for one of theirs. I have > always been firm on this and made a stink till they got mine working. > > _______________________________________________ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://es-forum.com/Computers-tp4027457p4028258.html > > To unsubscribe from Computers, visit > |
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Thanks Marc! I'm going to try DSL and a modem with no wireless capability. Susan |
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Note that when I had DSL with no wireless, I was still bothered by whatever was being emitted by the telephone wiring around my house.
I tried to workaround this by having the phone company install a splitter and filter at the outside box, so that all of the telephone wiring had the DSL filtered out except one. But I'd still react to the wire with the DSL on it. Of course, if you can keep your distance from that wire (and the modem), then you'd be good. Ideally you might be in another room, and only have to deal with the ethernet cable to your computer. |
My knowledge is really limited as to how this all works technically.
My TV is Comcast cable and I do ok with it. I didn't realize that telephone wires were involved when you use internet cable. So, if I put the modem in another room and the telephone wire was also in that room, I would have a 50 ft ethernet cord running from the modem in the other room into my computer in the next room. I did try doing it that way with a 25 ft ethernet cord and moving the AT&T modem but the longer ethernet cord seem to intensify everything. I know you can't say for sure, but in your experience do you think it would be more tolerable with cable internet vs. AT&T internet. Thanks for your help. Susan which is with AT&T and works on the telephone line unplugged unless I have to use it for downloading or watching a video. I work mostly on dial up. I need to use DSL for lomger periods of time because of my work and that's why I'm looking for a solution. I use my cell phone if I have a call when I'm using DSL so my phone is not an issue. On 9/21/15, Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Note that when I had DSL with no wireless, I was still bothered by whatever > was being emitted by the telephone wiring around my house. > > I tried to workaround this by having the phone company install a splitter > and filter at the outside box, so that all of the telephone wiring had the > DSL filtered out except one. But I'd still react to the wire with the DSL > on it. Of course, if you can keep your distance from that wire (and the > modem), then you'd be good. Ideally you might be in another room, and only > have to deal with the ethernet cable to your computer. > > _______________________________________________ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://es-forum.com/Computers-tp4027457p4028262.html > > To unsubscribe from Computers, visit > |
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Telephone wires are only used if you use DSL... if you use cable internet, then only your cable wiring is used.
It's really impossible to predict how anyone will react to anything. For example, I find ethernet cables very tolerable, no matter what the distance. So I am okay with being next to an ethernet cable. All I can really say is that in my house, with my sensitivities, and with where all of my equipment was situated, that cable internet (Xfinity) was more tolerable to me than DSL (CenturyLink) at the higher connection speeds. Marc |
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All internet by local phone companies: Bell South, Centurylink, Regular AT and T and Frontier etc.. uses the phone lines and requires a DSL modem. Internet by cable companies: Cox, Time Warner, Comcast comes through a cable and requires a cable modem. AT and T also has another service that is not basic phone and DSL, called "Uverse". That is BAD stuff: I have no personal experience with it but I have heard nightmare stories from many who have gotten VERY SICK from just having it in the neighborhood but not on their house. The old xfinity is OK, but in recent weeks there have been numerous stories of the "new" xfinity making people very sick. The new requires a modem that also acts as a public wifi hotspot, sometimes they can disable it, but it doesn't last and turns itself back on when you think it's off. This is very strong! I heard the solution is to find a modem that is compatible with that service,but can not transmit wifi.
I have centurylink DSL myself. I have the box off and away. It's a small one line wired only older DSL modem. I have now 12 mg, but where I am moving in the interim, while I look for a better space, has not even barely 1 mg. I need to cut back on screen time as it is anyway. That would be ideal to have a second line for the phone and a different separate line for DSL. Note they installed something at my phone jack that cleans up the line so I do not get static on the phone line from the DSL. It's a little plastic splitter box. I bet that also makes it more tolerable too. |
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I use Centurylink DSL on the same line as the landline telephone and do fine with it. I'd like to encourage everyone to keep or get a landline telephone, if possible, to keep local landline telephone companies in business. AT&T and Verizon are doing their best to do away with our safe and secure landlines. Some in the group can apparently tolerate cell phones, but many of us cannot -even briefly.
I use a newer DSL modem which has both Wifi and Ethernet internet connection. I removed the external antennas on the modem and turned off the Wifi in the settings. I wrap the modem in a couple of layers of heavy duty foil and place it as far away as possible- yes, it gets hot but I've been doing this for a couple of years and it's still going strong. It along with my computer are plugged into a power strip with an on/off switch and completely turned off when not in use. I do the same with the TV and satellite box as they only go into a standby mode when turned off with a remote and are not completely off and are still drawing power. Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 17:16:13 -0700 From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: [ES] Re: Computers My knowledge is really limited as to how this all works technically. My TV is Comcast cable and I do ok with it. I didn't realize that telephone wires were involved when you use internet cable. So, if I put the modem in another room and the telephone wire was also in that room, I would have a 50 ft ethernet cord running from the modem in the other room into my computer in the next room. I did try doing it that way with a 25 ft ethernet cord and moving the AT&T modem but the longer ethernet cord seem to intensify everything. I know you can't say for sure, but in your experience do you think it would be more tolerable with cable internet vs. AT&T internet. Thanks for your help. Susan which is with AT&T and works on the telephone line unplugged unless I have to use it for downloading or watching a video. I work mostly on dial up. I need to use DSL for lomger periods of time because of my work and that's why I'm looking for a solution. I use my cell phone if I have a call when I'm using DSL so my phone is not an issue. On 9/21/15, Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Note that when I had DSL with no wireless, I was still bothered by whatever > was being emitted by the telephone wiring around my house. > > I tried to workaround this by having the phone company install a splitter > and filter at the outside box, so that all of the telephone wiring had the > DSL filtered out except one. But I'd still react to the wire with the DSL > on it. Of course, if you can keep your distance from that wire (and the > modem), then you'd be good. Ideally you might be in another room, and only > have to deal with the ethernet cable to your computer. > > _______________________________________________ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://es-forum.com/Computers-tp4027457p4028262.html > > To unsubscribe from Computers, visit > |
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Thanks Marc.
I'm going to have Comcast Cable installed and hopefully I will tolerate it better than DSL. Susan On 9/21/15, Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Telephone wires are only used if you use DSL... if you use cable internet, > then only your cable wiring is used. > > It's really impossible to predict how anyone will react to anything. For > example, I find ethernet cables very tolerable, no matter what the distance. > So I am okay with being next to an ethernet cable. > > All I can really say is that in my house, with my sensitivities, and with > where all of my equipment was situated, that cable internet (Xfinity) was > more tolerable to me than DSL (CenturyLink) at the higher connection > speeds. > > Marc > > > _______________________________________________ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://es-forum.com/Computers-tp4027457p4028264.html > > To unsubscribe from Computers, visit > |
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Fog: That is some good advice. I just leave it on now, but probably will not want to if I am in the area of it and plus being on low emf DC solar, with too small a system, I will have to economize on all loads. So 30 watts running for nothing is a BIG deal. The shielding as well-that would have to help. The main issue I have w/ computing is the screen making my eyes go bad and it does-sensitive or not-just plain bad for anyone's eyes. Sure can't hurt to shield the modem to boot!!!
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Perhaps, if you're going with Comcast you should be sure to heed this ES engineer's warning and how to turn the Wifi off:
http://www.emfanalysis.com/why-is-xfinity-wifi-harming-people/ 1.) For your own home, if Comcast is your only choice for internet service, you should be able to program your Xfinity router so that the WiFi component is off. Here are the basic directions which another EMF consultant, Oram Miller, was able to obtain directly from Comcast. You want to disable the NAT and set it to Bridge Mode by doing the following:
However, please note there are some reports that when Comcast does a system wide reset (approximately once per month), the WiFi component is turned back on for all Xfinity routers. It would be prudent to own a basic RF meter to check this yourself every month or so. You will have to go through this process each time. Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:19:18 -0700 From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: [ES] Re: Computers Thanks Marc. I'm going to have Comcast Cable installed and hopefully I will tolerate it better than DSL. Susan On 9/21/15, Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Telephone wires are only used if you use DSL... if you use cable internet, > then only your cable wiring is used. > > It's really impossible to predict how anyone will react to anything. For > example, I find ethernet cables very tolerable, no matter what the distance. > So I am okay with being next to an ethernet cable. > > All I can really say is that in my house, with my sensitivities, and with > where all of my equipment was situated, that cable internet (Xfinity) was > more tolerable to me than DSL (CenturyLink) at the higher connection > speeds. > > Marc > > > _______________________________________________ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://es-forum.com/Computers-tp4027457p4028264.html > > To unsubscribe from Computers, visit > |
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My Comcast modem doesn't even have wi-fi capability, so there's no wi-fi to turn off. :-)
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Fog: I am glad you found this link to post here. I wanted to do the same but did not have the link. I would want to insure they would let me have a modem that has no wifi capability period. No one can spend all day everyday w/ an RF meter in hand! If they reset it and is on a long time before catching it: say you have to drive somewhere important-there will be an accident or if you are home for me it would be a mini stroke or worse. Not limited to these things either: was just giving an idea from my own experience from the joys of wifi. For me I do not do cable as the modems all seem to require AC: that means put up w/ smart meter or running inverter: both are about equal. And I really do not want to support people being blasted by these companies. I am more for supporting centurylink, so they can keep the landlines. That is just my take. Maybe you can get sattelite with the dish really really far away? I have gotten so much worse when the new xfinity hit.
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Xfinity/Comcast does not force you to use one of their rental modems. You can buy a modem yourself, and use that. I'm using a "business gateway" modem that is on Comcast's "compatible modems" list, and it works fine. It has 4 ethernet ports on the back, and no wi-fi.
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