Clean Power and Still Sensitive to 60 Hz

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> Here is evidence and a testomony that one can be sensitive
> to 60 Hz house power, even when the power is clean. See
> upload file 'show me the dirty power'. Using this very clean power
> I get chest pains while using a soldering iron, and go near a
> transformer. In addition to the chest pains my tinnitus
> flares up within seconds after placing my head near
> a soldering iron.
>
> The signal in the picture was produced by placing two resistors
> in series, and placing an oscilloscope probe accross one of
> the resistors. If there was noise it would be clearly visible.
>
> Eli
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> Here is evidence and a testomony that one can be sensitive
> to 60 Hz house power, even when the power is clean. See
> upload file 'show me the dirty power'. Using this very clean power
> I get chest pains while using a soldering iron, and go near a
> transformer. In addition to the chest pains my tinnitus
> flares up within seconds after placing my head near
> a soldering iron.
>
> The signal in the picture was produced by placing two resistors
> in series, and placing an oscilloscope probe accross one of
> the resistors. If there was noise it would be clearly visible.
>
> Eli
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> I am sorry, but that is no evidence.
> How reliable is your scope?
> Can you measure 30 kHz signals?
> Can you detect them anyway?
>
> There is always some noise in the mains.
> Not even the 60 Hz is constant.
> The voltage will go up and down.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@...>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 21:11
> Subject: [eSens] Clean Power and Still Sensitive to 60 Hz
>
>
> > Here is evidence and a testomony that one can be sensitive
> > to 60 Hz house power, even when the power is clean. See
> > upload file 'show me the dirty power'. Using this very clean

> > I get chest pains while using a soldering iron, and go near a
> > transformer. In addition to the chest pains my tinnitus
> > flares up within seconds after placing my head near
> > a soldering iron.
> >
> > The signal in the picture was produced by placing two resistors
> > in series, and placing an oscilloscope probe accross one of
> > the resistors. If there was noise it would be clearly visible.
> >
> > Eli
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> Charles,
>
> I've been seeing 30-60 kHz all week on this scope. That's
> easy, just measure the voltage coming from an LCD power supply.
> I'm telling ya, there's no 30 kHz in this house power.
>
> I added another pic at a sweep rate of 0.5 micro seconds. You can
> see noise at a frequency of about 1 meg Hz. The voltage of the
> 60 Hz signal is 2.5v Peak to peak. The voltage of the 1 meg Hz
> noise is about 10 milli volts. If my math is correct that comes
> to 0.48 volts for 120 volt house power.
>
> Eli
>
> --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "charles"
> <charles@...> wrote:
> >
> > I am sorry, but that is no evidence.
> > How reliable is your scope?
> > Can you measure 30 kHz signals?
> > Can you detect them anyway?
> >
> > There is always some noise in the mains.
> > Not even the 60 Hz is constant.
> > The voltage will go up and down.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > www.milieuziektes.be
> > www.hetbitje.nl
> > checked by Bitdefender
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@...>
> > To: <[hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 21:11
> > Subject: [eSens] Clean Power and Still Sensitive to 60 Hz
> >
> >
> > > Here is evidence and a testomony that one can be sensitive
> > > to 60 Hz house power, even when the power is clean. See
> > > upload file 'show me the dirty power'. Using this very clean
> power
> > > I get chest pains while using a soldering iron, and go near a
> > > transformer. In addition to the chest pains my tinnitus
> > > flares up within seconds after placing my head near
> > > a soldering iron.
> > >
> > > The signal in the picture was produced by placing two resistors
> > > in series, and placing an oscilloscope probe accross one of
> > > the resistors. If there was noise it would be clearly visible.
> > >
> > > Eli
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>

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> Do you know what's causing the 1MHz? Or is that possibly noise in your
> scope?
>
> It's obviously much weaker than the 60Hz, but could have totally different
> effects. You could try a Stetzer filter or iceradioproducts model 475 to
> get rid of it.
>
> I just tried another home provocation experiment and it didn't really
> work.
> My ears start ringing within a couple minutes but then don't stop.
> Then at some random time in the experiment (about 40 minutes altogether)
> start
> ringing very loud and that stops thankfully less than a minute later.
> They don't ring like that when there's no stimulus, but I am now thinking
> the trials should be hours or a day apart.
>
> Hope you will continue to keep us posted on this!
>
> Bill
>
> On 10/8/07, jaime_schunkewitz <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Charles,
> >
> > I've been seeing 30-60 kHz all week on this scope. That's
> > easy, just measure the voltage coming from an LCD power supply.
> > I'm telling ya, there's no 30 kHz in this house power.
> >
> > I added another pic at a sweep rate of 0.5 micro seconds. You can
> > see noise at a frequency of about 1 meg Hz. The voltage of the
> > 60 Hz signal is 2.5v Peak to peak. The voltage of the 1 meg Hz
> > noise is about 10 milli volts. If my math is correct that comes
> > to 0.48 volts for 120 volt house power.
> >
> > Eli
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "charles"
> > <charles@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am sorry, but that is no evidence.
> > > How reliable is your scope?
> > > Can you measure 30 kHz signals?
> > > Can you detect them anyway?
> > >
> > > There is always some noise in the mains.
> > > Not even the 60 Hz is constant.
> > > The voltage will go up and down.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Charles Claessens
> > > member Verband Baubiologie
> > > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > > www.milieuziektes.be
> > > www.hetbitje.nl
> > > checked by Bitdefender
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@...>
> > > To: <[hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 21:11
> > > Subject: [eSens] Clean Power and Still Sensitive to 60 Hz
> > >
> > >
> > > > Here is evidence and a testomony that one can be sensitive
> > > > to 60 Hz house power, even when the power is clean. See
> > > > upload file 'show me the dirty power'. Using this very clean
> > power
> > > > I get chest pains while using a soldering iron, and go near a
> > > > transformer. In addition to the chest pains my tinnitus
> > > > flares up within seconds after placing my head near
> > > > a soldering iron.
> > > >
> > > > The signal in the picture was produced by placing two resistors
> > > > in series, and placing an oscilloscope probe accross one of
> > > > the resistors. If there was noise it would be clearly visible.
> > > >
> > > > Eli
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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