City Power Boxes

So, here's my second question and I promise not to inundate you with a
thousand more today. :>

Behind my house in the alley we have a city power box of some sort. I
don't know what it is, but I don't think it is cabale or telephone. It
isn't huge, about 5'x 5'x3' and grey.

I've been wondering if I can use something on it directly rather than
passively trying to deal with it's effects.  

I've considered trying to get outdoor paint that matches the colour of
it and putting some of the EMF paint product in and repainting it one
evening. Would putting diodes on it work perhaps?

> I've considered trying to get outdoor paint that matches the colour of
> it and putting some of the EMF paint product in and repainting it one
> evening. Would putting diodes on it work perhaps?

Hmmm, I've never had any luck with any diodes I've tried, and have
never tried paint. I usually handle such things with a Quantum
power strip (in the house). I noticed huge/immediate improvements
from problems that I perceived were coming from outside of the
house (e.g., power pole transformers).

Also, although the power strips are $60, I think you can get pretty
much the same result from the $20 "Minimax". I cannot confirm that
because I am much less sensitive than I was when I first got the
power strips. The Minimax appears to only be available here:

http://www.shareit.com/product.html?productid=192127

Marc

If you are trying to shield magnetic fields, there is no paint/plastic/fabric that can do it. You must use plates
of special alloys such as mumetal. The utility won't allow it.

Emil

The "minimax' and other quantum products say they filter out an
inaudible noise.. curious, do you know if it is a RF filter?
Sandi

> The "minimax' and other quantum products say they filter out an
> inaudible noise.. curious, do you know if it is a RF filter?

I think when they talk about an "inaudible noise", they are
talking about quantum mechanics, and not RF (although they
have done experiments which show measurable increases in
signal-to-noise ratio).

The power strips do have a capacitor-type EMI/RFI filter in
them, but that is NOT supposed to be what makes these special.
You can a power strip like that for far less in your
local hardware store.

Marc

Hi all,

Speaking of EMI/RFI filters, I see that there is now
something called "Purestream EMI/RFI high frequency
filters" with either 40db or 58db of attenuation.

For example, the Powersquid Calamari has the 58db
version:

http://powersquid.net/store/index.php

I wonder how "Purestream" filters differ from
the standard no-name filters that come in
many power strips? And if it would make any
difference to someone with ES?

Marc

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> Does anyone know of anything that filters out rf?

Filters it out of what? The house wiring? Or
the power to a specific appliance?

If it's the house wiring, then the Stetzer filters
reroute high frequencies to the ground line. This
isn't exactly the same as "filtering" it out of
the system, but it seems to help some people's
symptoms here. There is also the Noise Harvester
line of filters, which apparently removes the
noise rather than reroutes it.

Of course, neither of these products remove all
of the noise, instead they simply REDUCE it
in a limited frequency band.

If you are simply concerned about the filtering
RF to a specific appliance (TV, computer), then
there are lots of power strips on the market
which contain RFI/EMI filters in them. But
again, these simply REDUCE the noise is a limited
frequency band.

(if you have large sums of money to spend, you
can look into the high end audio/video world,
where you can buy devices which will regenerate
a "perfect" AC signal, but again this is just
for a specific outlet, and doesn't do anything
for the rest of the house)

Marc

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m.a.norman wrote:
> I'm not sure how this is coming about other than I've had a lot of problems
> with emf and neighbours for years.

ahh, so this is not necessarily a wiring issue, but instead RF "in the
air" -- so I guess you'd need some sort of shielding material applied
to your walls and windows. I don't have any experience with this, although
I'm sure someone here must...

Marc

There are some clothes that shield RF on this site, I have not bought
any, but they sound good, I think you would have to ask someone on here
if the frequencies these clothes protect against are the ones which are
likely causing problems.


www.lessemf.com/personal.html

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One thing that could be happening that I have read about is that RF
and electric fields as well, can travel through waterpipes in your
house. If you go to this site

http://www.emfacts.com

and click on

11. A Guide For Homeowners

Just over 1/2 way down this page under "What to look for in the
home", section 2 is about Electrical currents on metal water pipes
and it says you can get part of the pipe replaced with non-metal pipe
to solve the problem.



As for the whistling noise, I have that sometimes from the computer
case I have which houses the components. I have tinnitus all the
time, but this noise actually sounds different.

I'm not an expert on this but with your hedge dying, maybe it's
something to do with stray currents. I read something about this and
I think things like grounding poles can harm plants around them.

Richard

> The
> spikes show high on my TriField meter even with my electrics switched
> off at
> the mains.


Are you referring to Rf/microwave frequency reading/ or magnetic or
electric field? Which trifield do you have? If you have a meter like
mine ( model 100XE reads mW/cm2 ) and its spiking Rf you might want to
consider moving as these are unsafe levels.
In troubleshooting Rf in my home I removed smoke detectors off the power
grid , removed dimmers, and removed flourescent lights and finally used
the stetzer filters which seem to really help. In testing the house I
learned that the Rf is present whether the power is on or off. Thats why
they call it "dirty electricity".

Sandi

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> It's not the microwave reading which usually shows on 0-1. It's the
> magnetic range that goes over the top and spikes high on the it when
> the electrics are off at the mains.
>
> Can you tell me how the steltzer filters work and could I fit one of
> these myself?

If the fields you are trying to eliminate are high even when the
power is turned off at the mains, I don't think the Stetzer filters
are going to help. You're going to need some type of shielding around
you, or perhaps one of the EMF protection devices that emits a
counteracting field (e.g. Quantum Products)

Marc

Is the magnetic field is coming from the power box on the walkway?
what is the reading of the magnetic field?
Sandi

> It's not the microwave reading which usually shows on 0-1. It's the
> magnetic
> range that goes over the top and spikes high on the it when the
electrics
> are
> off at the mains. Other times it just remains high.

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> Can you recommend a Quantum product that may be helpful. I believe
> the Tesla watch was helpful but the battery has run down and I've
> mislaid the document that came with it.

For people in the USA, I'd recommend the $60 power strip, which
simply plugs into an outlet. However, I believe that you are
in the UK, and I don't believe that Quantum Products makes a
power strip that works in the UK. So that would leave the
"Quantum Home" at $300, which runs on a 12v adapter (you'd
need to specify that you need a UK 12v adapter, or find the
right kind yourself locally).

But I don't know if this will help you or not. I find these
are quiet helpful for reducing symptoms without shielding,
but they will NOT affect your meter readings (they just
seem to help people, not meters!). Quantum Products does
offer a money back guarantee, and you should be able to
tell if they are working on the first day.

Certainly there are other products that I've used that had
a wide range of effectiveness (such that they'd help your
garden out as well). The "Cosmic Energy Transformers"
helped a bit, but not enough to make them worth what they
cost:

http://www.alivewater.net/prod/cets.htm

Also, a product that seems to be only available in the UK
is the RadiTech:

http://www.dulwichhealthonline.co.uk/

I've read positive testimonials for this, but have never
tried one myself.

Also, possibly putting a Springlife Polarizer or a
Tachyon disc on your fuse box might also help a bit,
but for serious problems I usually just use the
stuff from Quantum Products.

One possible way to see if the Quantum Products items
will help you is to download the free trial software
for your computer, and see if you feel any better when
you are near your computer:

http://www.quantumproducts.com/quantumbytefreedownload/

Marc

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <_marc@ufoseries.mar_>
To: <_eSens@yahoogroups.eSe_>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] stetzer filters

> > It's not the microwave reading which usually shows on 0-1. It's the
> > magnetic range that goes over the top and spikes high on the it when
> > the electrics are off at the mains.
> >
> > Can you tell me how the steltzer filters work and could I fit one of
> > these myself?
>
> If the fields you are trying to eliminate are high even when the
> power is turned off at the mains, I don't think the Stetzer filters
> are going to help. You're going to need some type of shielding around
> you, or perhaps one of the EMF protection devices that emits a
> counteracting field (e.g. Quantum Products)
>
> Marc


 
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PAUL UK REPLIES - You may be reciving a net or stray current riding in via  
your water of gas pipes. You should contact EDF and ask them to check this  
out. Electronic interference is well covered for machine to machine by  
legislation but when it comes to machine/elec service to human we are not up to  
speed yet. It could be classified as a statutory nuisance in time ie you  
neighbour interfering with you because of Dect/wifi emissions. certainly you can  
complain to offcom re ameteur radio interference and there is case law to  
support this, so we must lobby our MPs to include interference with our biological
systems, if nothing else becuase we have an ipairment/disability we need
urgent help especially given the proliferation of wireless technologies. It
should be a human right to live free from this if desired, therefore the
perpitrators of the smog should be responsible for ensuring that their
equipment/service does not entrain/enchain us !
 
Lets also look at the industry from within, ie look at their blog sites,  
discussion forums and put some balance into thier childish fear stained mockery,  
lets fight them on the beaches !
 
Try this one to air your oppinions -
 
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