Christmas - A Special Peril for The EHS

A new post:

http://electricforester.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-special-peril-ehs.html

Roger

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> A new post:
> http://electricforester.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-special-peril-ehs.html

Hmmm, I can't recall ever being bothered by Christmas lights... (although we're
still using the incandescent kind)

Marc

The led ones really bother me, and some flicker, distance does help.

I noticed last year, and even now that I don't like them -regular ones, on for extended periods anymore though, because they do seem to create some tension in my body.

~ Snoshoe

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> > A new post:
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> Hmmm, I can't recall ever being bothered by Christmas lights... (although we're
> still using the incandescent kind)
>
> Marc
>

I tested some LED ones and they did make a little buzz
on the AM radio.  And I can see them flicker.  Theoretically
they could use just rectifiers as some LED lightbulbs do, but
then you could not use the same design for different lengths
of light strings.

The power is pretty low (unless you have a zillion LEDs)
so it might not be too hard to filter them.

If the incandescent ones affect you a filter to keep RF
out of the lighting might help.  Or maybe there's a
corroded contact in there making dirty power.  Or
maybe you have a net current wiring error.  Not
to say incandesants  are impossible to react to...

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Yes I am not bothered by them either. At least not yet. Loni

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Subject: Re: [eSens] Christmas - A Special Peril for The EHS
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Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 12:34 PM


 



> A new post:
> http://electricforester.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-special-peril-ehs.html

Hmmm, I can't recall ever being bothered by Christmas lights... (although we're
still using the incandescent kind)

Marc








     

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My husband just bought some led for the outside. Would the emf reach inside the house?
 
Loni

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Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:01 PM


 



The led ones really bother me, and some flicker, distance does help.

I noticed last year, and even now that I don't like them -regular ones, on for extended periods anymore though, because they do seem to create some tension in my body.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
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> > A new post:
> > http://electricforester.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-special-peril-ehs.html
>
> Hmmm, I can't recall ever being bothered by Christmas lights... (although we're
> still using the incandescent kind)
>
> Marc
>









     

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Hi Marc,
 
I am not bothered by our personal lights, but it seems that emfs are stronger here during Christmas, especially between 6pm and 11pm.
 
Diane


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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Christmas - A Special Peril for The EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:34 PM


 



> A new post:
> http://electricforester.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-special-peril-ehs.html

Hmmm, I can't recall ever being bothered by Christmas lights... (although we're
still using the incandescent kind)

Marc








     

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xmas lights such as cheap rope lights set on flash/shuffle mode can  put
out serious LF dirty power into the mains allround plus dirty air as charles  
describes.
 
puk - make no mistake this is a real antagonist to most essers.
 
 
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Hi Marc,

I am not bothered by our personal lights,  but it seems that emfs are
stronger here during Christmas, especially between  6pm and 11pm.

Diane

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Subject: Re:  [eSens] Christmas - A Special Peril for The EHS
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Date:  Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:34 PM



> A new post:  
>
_http://electricforester.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-special-peril-ehs.html_
(http://electricforester.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-special-peril-ehs.html)

Hmmm,  I can't recall ever being bothered by Christmas lights... (although  
we're
still using the incandescent kind)

Marc

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Are the lights that flash worse?  Loni

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xmas lights such as cheap rope lights set on flash/shuffle mode can put
out serious LF dirty power into the mains allround plus dirty air as charles
describes.

puk - make no mistake this is a real antagonist to most essers.


In a message dated 07/12/2010 02:23:03 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Hi Marc,

I am not bothered by our personal lights, but it seems that emfs are
stronger here during Christmas, especially between 6pm and 11pm.

Diane

--- On Mon, 12/6/10, Marc Martin <_marc@ufoseries.com_
(mailto:[hidden email]) > wrote:

From: Marc Martin <_marc@ufoseries.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
Subject: Re: [eSens] Christmas - A Special Peril for The EHS
To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:34 PM

> A new post:
>
_http://electricforester.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-special-peril-ehs.html_
(http://electricforester.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-special-peril-ehs.html)

Hmmm, I can't recall ever being bothered by Christmas lights... (although
we're
still using the incandescent kind)

Marc

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> Are the lights that flash worse?  Loni

As I recall, "old-technology" had a single bulb that you put into the string that
made the rest of the lights turn on & off.  That seemed harmless enough.  However,
I have no idea how what the new technology is for this.  I've seen some strings
that have "programming modes", which might be bad.

We've currently got strings of incandescent lights that only turn on & off once
per day.  These don't seem to be a problem for me at all.

Marc

Thanks Marc, that's what I have right now but we are buying some new lights so we'll see.
Loni

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Subject: Re: [eSens] Christmas - A Special Peril for The EHS
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Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 10:20 AM


 



> Are the lights that flash worse?  Loni

As I recall, "old-technology" had a single bulb that you put into the string that
made the rest of the lights turn on & off. That seemed harmless enough. However,
I have no idea how what the new technology is for this. I've seen some strings
that have "programming modes", which might be bad.

We've currently got strings of incandescent lights that only turn on & off once
per day. These don't seem to be a problem for me at all.

Marc








     

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most likley due to electronic tampering, they pulse out rf I would  say try
an AM radio on them
 
 
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Are the lights that flash worse?  Loni

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Date:  Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 4:42 AM



xmas lights such as  cheap rope lights set on flash/shuffle mode can put
out serious LF dirty  power into the mains allround plus dirty air as
charles  
describes.

puk - make no mistake this is a real antagonist to most  essers.

In a message dated 07/12/2010 02:23:03 GMT Standard Time,  
_evie15422@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  writes:

Hi  Marc,

I am not bothered by our personal lights, but it seems that emfs  are
stronger here during Christmas, especially between 6pm and  11pm.

Diane

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Date:  Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:34 PM

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Hmmm, I can't recall ever being bothered by Christmas lights...  (although
we're
still using the incandescent  kind)

Marc

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