Central computers in offices

On 2 ocassions I have worked in offices where using the computer has not
been as offensive as using it in my own home, now as an ESSER this confuses me,
maybe I am mad after all ? but no there is bound to be an explanation to
this. Perhaps in the instance where the computer that I used was only a small
clam shaped thing as oppossed to a desktop, where the latter must have been
fed from a central computer, is it possible that these type of arrangements
have filters that suppress multiband electronic noise, does anyone know about
this, that last office I worked in aI also got on ok with the PC it did have a
desktop but I could sit reasonably close for quite some time, the only
problem was the 2 mobile phone antennea 10 m away which after 8 weeks of fighting
off the flack from these my contract was terminated. What I am saying that
Dirty electricity/communication should not be underestimated as a major
aggitant for ESSERS.

pAUL UK






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I can think of some possible explanations. One is that offices (at least in
the US)
are usually wired in metal conduit, but homes are not. So in an office, the
electrical noise from the power supply will not radiate from every wire in
every wall.

I also think the specific monitor, refresh rate, and monitor cable length
and quality
are big factors. Also, if you have high speed (DSL) at home, it could be
running
through unshielded and possibly even untwisted phone lines.

If you look at an ethernet router for the business world it may be made of
metal, while a
home version is plastic, so not shielded. The same may be true of some
computers?

On the other hand, maybe the fluorescent lights at the office drown out the
EMFs from the computers?

Let us know if you learn more...
Bill

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 5:22 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:


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> On the other hand, maybe the fluorescent lights at the office drown out
> the EMFs from the computers?

I'm a bit surprise to hear that someone feels better in the office
than at home -- for me, the florescent lights at the office are
major factors (although I was once in a building where the ceilings
were so high that they didn't bother me as much)

Marc

In a message dated 5/2/2008 5:56:27 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

I'm a bit surprise to hear that someone feels better in the office
than at home -- for me, the florescent lights at the office are
major factors (although I was once in a building where the ceilings
were so high that they didn't bother me as much)

Marc



Its the same for me with flourescents in superstores where the ceiling are
high I can go for a lot longer than if they are say standard 2.4m overhead.
In the office I spent 8 weeks in this was great in terms of space between
people, very high ceilings, no dect of wifi, but it had to be spoilt by 2 mobile
antenna on the walls of the building, this took most of my energy away, after
8 weeks my nails became pitted and soft with white spots ! But yes I felt
reasonably ok at the PC in this office considering I am sitting so close to
it, where as here right now my Dell inspirion laptop 1.5m away is frying me
only after 10mins and I should put it away now, my arm is stinging from the
mouse usual story, my right thigh is also stinging as this is below the mouse and
so on..., my body is to acusstomed to the frequencies from the laptop, plus
the I am suurounded by electrical noise in my house, which as I will show on
YOUTUBE soon, this electrical noise evan finds itsway into the trees in my
garden !!!

Paul uk






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In a message dated 5/2/2008 3:36:28 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email]
writes:

If you look at an ethernet router for the business world it may be made of
metal, while a
home version is plastic, so not shielded. The same may be true of some
computers?

On the other hand, maybe the fluorescent lights at the office drown out the
EMFs from the computers?

Let us know if you learn more...
Bill




I aggree, as for drowning out, this is a real phenomena, if someone comes to
my house and spends 10 mins or so with me and can become aware if they have
a mobile on them, but if there are a lot of other scources around this of
course make you less able to discern specific emiitters, that said flourecent
lights are a killer for me, and if you start to pile on other offensive
elctronic devices I will sink evan lower - that is when my adrenal glands have
stopped feeding me reserve power !

Paul uk - loosing bandwidth rapidly so Iam off this thing to get a
battering somewhere else, gees no wonder I look like sh..t !!






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> this took most of my energy away, after
> 8 weeks my nails became pitted and soft with white spots !

Have you looked up this symptom? I've read that this is due
to a shortage of zinc in the body. Do you have a reduced
sense of smell & taste as well? I know that I have this
particular symptom, and taking zinc supplements or seaweed
improves my sense of smell.

Marc

> I will sink evan lower - that is when my adrenal glands have
> stopped feeding me reserve power !

My adrenal glands certainly took a big hit from the ionic
footbath I tried earlier this year. I've found benefit from
taking supplements for the adrenal glands:

Cataplex C by Standard Process (supposed to be a Vitamin
C supplement, but one of its ingredients is a fast-acting,
short lived adrenal gland extract)

Adrenal Desicated by Standard Process (desicated adrenal
gland, as replacement therapy for a poorly functioning
adrenal gland)

Drenatrophin PMG by Standard Process (acts as a decoy
for antibodies that might be causing further destruction
to your adrenal glands, so your body can repair your
adrenals without interference)

Also, in terms of EMF devices, I've found that if I take
a cloth Tacyhon armband from Advanced Tachyon Technologies,
cut it up and tape it onto my skin close to where my
adrenal glands are, I get a good boost in endurance
for exercise, and also relief from fatigue. Also,
items from Quantum Products make the EMF around me less
stressful to my body, so my adrenals are less damaged
in the first place.

Marc

I've heard of people who feel better around fluorescent lights.
Just as some people can get seizures, maybe some are stabillized.

Bill

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 2:57 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:


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The same phenomenon happened to me when I was a
software engineer. At home I felt chest pains while
using the computer, laptop, TV etc, yet somehow I
survived in the office for many years with much less
symptoms... until all s**t hit the fan and my ES
totally let loose. Since then I can't tolerate much
EMF at all ;(.
Eli

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:
>
> On 2 ocassions I have worked in offices where using the computer
has not
> been as offensive as using it in my own home, now as an ESSER this
confuses me,
> maybe I am mad after all ? but no there is bound to be an
explanation to
> this. Perhaps in the instance where the computer that I used was
only a small
> clam shaped thing as oppossed to a desktop, where the latter must
have been
> fed from a central computer, is it possible that these type of
arrangements
> have filters that suppress multiband electronic noise, does anyone
know about
> this, that last office I worked in aI also got on ok with the PC
it did have a
> desktop but I could sit reasonably close for quite some time, the
only
> problem was the 2 mobile phone antennea 10 m away which after 8
weeks of fighting
> off the flack from these my contract was terminated. What I am
saying that
> Dirty electricity/communication should not be underestimated as a
major

> My adrenal glands certainly took a big hit from the ionic footbath I tried earlier this year.
snip
> so my adrenals are less damaged in the first place.

How does one know that the adrenal glands are affected? I assume you had some symptoms... but how do you know they were related to the adrenals?

Emil



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In a message dated 5/3/2008 8:49:50 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

survived in the office for many years with much less
symptoms... until all s**t hit the fan and my ES
totally let loose. Since then I can't tolerate much
EMF at all ;(.
Eli



Maybe when you are so imersed in EMR ie its coming at you from all
directions such as in a busy office your body says , hey this is a bit heavy and sets
up some bio defense mechanism, but in the home it just gets through the back
door or just does not set off the established defcon alert in the same way.
Your flight or fight circuit may well have been the thing that kept you going
in the office but we all know that what goes up must come down.
or maybe there is better balancing of currents in offices more earthing due
to more bodies etc..
Paul UK






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In a message dated 5/3/2008 4:57:32 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Have you looked up this symptom? I've read that this is due
to a shortage of zinc in the body. Do you have a reduced
sense of smell & taste as well? I know that I have this
particular symptom, and taking zinc supplements or seaweed
improves my sense of smell.

Marc



Taste is good, smell use to be extraordinary, but now is temepramental. You
can also loose zinc if you enjoy to much of the curv curvy with the wife.

Paul uk






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> How does one know that the adrenal glands are affected? I assume
> you had some symptoms... but how do you know they were related
< to the adrenals?

I went to several different doctors (ND,DC), who use forms of
testing (MSA,NRT) where they can tell which glands are under/over
active, and also which supplements can best support these glands.
After the footbaths, my adrenals, thyroid, and nervous system
all tested as being stressed/weak. So it wasn't just the
adrenals, although I definitely feel better after taking
supplements for the adrenals.

Marc

In a message dated 5/4/2008 4:10:08 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

I went to several different doctors (ND,DC), who use forms of
testing (MSA,NRT) where they can tell which glands are under/over
active, and also which supplements can best support these glands.
After the footbaths, my adrenals, thyroid, and nervous system
all tested as being stressed/weak. So it wasn't just the
adrenals, although I definitely feel better after taking
supplements for the adrenals.

Marc



In my case I was merely referring to the adrenal glands as I associate these
with producing adrenaline - Paul uk






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