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Tryingtoheal

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Anyone know if it's possible to have a blue-tooth hands free phone option removed from a newer car? We're going to buy a car soon, & have to find out.

Thanks, Kathy

Marc Martin

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On April 22, "Tryingtoheal [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's possible to have a blue-tooth hands free phone option
> removed from a newer car? We're going to buy a car soon, & have to find out.

I would think that there must be SOME cars that don't come with all these fancy
new electronics, although these may not be the kinds of cars you are looking for?

I think I've seen some people pull the fuses on some of these things, which prevents
them from working.... assuming there is a fuse for just that functionality, and nothing
else?

Marc

Tryingtoheal

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Marc,

Thanks, we'll have to ask a car dealer mechanic.

Kathy

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:

On April 22, "Tryingtoheal [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's possible to have a blue-tooth hands free phone option
> removed from a newer car? We're going to buy a car soon, & have to find out.

I would think that there must be SOME cars that don't come with all these fancy
new electronics, although these may not be the kinds of cars you are looking for?

I think I've seen some people pull the fuses on some of these things, which prevents
them from working.... assuming there is a fuse for just that functionality, and nothing
else?

Marc

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superdrove

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Kathy,

If you find out any information about how to disable wireless in autos, let us know. I am sure we would all like to know if it is possible and how to do it.

C. Johnson
Superdrove

Luvapottamus

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If you can't find a car without these devices, (soon I expect you will not be able to as OBDIII(On board diagnostics version 3) supposedly comes with integrated wireless reporting of emissions systems faults, so that you can be ticketed if your trouble light comes on, and you don't get the thing fixed)

...then you'll need a tech to look at the wiring diagram or schematic to figure out how to disconnect it.(talking about bluetooth, not OBDIII-which you won't be able to disconnect)

The bluetooth device may have its own fuse, but I would expect it to possibly be wired in tandem with other devices like the stereo or car lighter, so that removing the fuse disables other things you might want to have working.

Newer cars are often wired in overly-complex ways to make repairs more complicated, or tricky.

I generally recommend just not buying new cars, but if you bought one, I'd be happy to look at the wiring diagram to figure out how to disconnect the thing. You can get an AllData subscription for most cars for about $20/year.

Unfortunately the manufacturer may not release the diagrams to ALLDATA until after a few years. You may have to pay the dealership to disable the thing.

Patricia

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are trucks as complicated these days?

or can you buy a pared down basic model

without all the bells and whistles?

love, patricia

On Jun 29, 2014, at 5:18 AM, Luvapottamus [via ES] wrote:

If you can't find a car without these devices, (soon I expect you will not be able to as OBDIII(On board diagnostics version 3) supposedly comes with integrated wireless reporting of emissions systems faults, so that you can be ticketed if your trouble light comes on, and you don't get the thing fixed)

...then you'll need a tech to look at the wiring diagram or schematic to figure out how to disconnect it.(talking about bluetooth, not OBDIII-which you won't be able to disconnect)

The bluetooth device may have it's own fuse, but I would expect it to possibly be wired in tandem with other devices like the stereo or car lighter, so that removing the fuse disables other things you might want to have working.

Newer cars are often wired in overly-complex ways to make repairs more complicated, or tricky.

I generally recommend just not buying new cars, but if you bought one, I'd be happy to look at the wiring diagram to figure out how to disconnect the thing. You can get an AllData subscription for most cars for about $20/year.

Unfortunately the manufacturer may not release the diagrams to ALLDATA until after a few years. You may have to pay the dealership to disable the thing.

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Luvapottamus

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Trucks will have OBDIII.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/02/eric-peters/will-your-check-engine-light-rat-you-out-to-big-brother/
http://lobby.la.psu.edu/_107th/093_OBD_Service_Info/Organizational_Statements/SEMA/SEMA_OBD_frequent_questions.htm

I don't know if they have rolled this out yet, couldn't tell from a news search or web search, but I'm sure you don't want it.

If it hasn't been installed yet now may be the time to buy a new car or truck, to get one before they do make it the standard.

As far as getting a bare bones truck, I would demand it from the dealership.

Back in the eighties, a friend's dad bought a ford Bronco from the dealer. He picked one from the demos in the lot and said:

"I'll take that one.

BUT...I want:
No air conditioning,
No power steering,
No power windows"

Etc.

And they ordered one from the factory that was the same color, but had none of those things.

And he was very happy with it.

<3

Alternatively, I'd recommend an older truck and a reserve budget for repairs.

I drive a 1986 Ford F-150 with a 300Cubic inch inline 6 cylinder. It had a freshly rebuilt engine and transmission, and I paid around $1000 for it.

One barrel carburetor. Very simple. It's B'ugly, but it's just a "farm truck." Has a 3 on the floor with a granny gear. (4 speed manual transmission with a super-low gear and no overdrive gear. You can get the same kind of thing with an automatic or five speed though. Good gas mileage and a stump puller.

;-)

alex97232

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Hi Kathy,
I am sorry I don't have the answer you are looking for. I have been there within the past year, and finally decided I needed to sell my Lexus Hybrid for a loss of money, BIG GAIN in better health. That car was slowly killing me--not just the GPS which I wasn't able to get disconnected, but the electric motors for the hybrid, and the computers for everything really pushed me over.
After doing a lot of research, I ended up buying a 2006 Jeep Wrangler--nothing fancy--and for the first time in 3 years was able to drive from La to Portland without getting sick for 3 weeks after the drive.
Bottom line is the older cars have a lot less of the stuff that hurts ES people like us.
Best to you,

Alex

Tryingtoheal

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Alex,

Thanks so much for being honest with your car experiences. The whole thing is terrible.

Someone else said if you buy a car with no GPS navigation & only bluetooth, it was tolerable. They said bluetooth was not active unless a cell phone is turned on.

The new car is for my husband. I pray he can find something I can tolerate too. I don't want him exposed to the technology that kills.

Kathy

On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 5:47 PM, alex97232 [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Kathy,
I am sorry I don't have the answer you are looking for. I have been there within the past year, and finally decided I needed to sell my Lexus Hybrid for a loss of money, BIG GAIN in better health. That car was slowly killing me--not just the GPS which I wasn't able to get disconnected, but the electric motors for the hybrid, and the computers for everything really pushed me over.
After doing a lot of research, I ended up buying a 2006 Jeep Wrangler--nothing fancy--and for the first time in 3 years was able to drive from La to Portland without getting sick for 3 weeks after the drive.
Bottom line is the older cars have a lot less of the stuff that hurts ES people like us.
Best to you,

Alex

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