Can Anyone Reccommend a Computer Monitor?

Hi Everyone

I've just joined the group after recently realising that the symptoms I have been esperiencing for the past two months (burning face, sore dry throat)are a result of ES brought on through my computer monitor. In short- I am petrified. I need a new monitor but don't know which to try. Can anyone reccommend anything? I am in the West Mids, UK.

Thanks
Diane

Hi there,

I can't speak for mass-produced commercial monitors, but I'm in the market for one from this guy:

http://www.lowemfoffice.com

(No affiliation - he seems to be the one putting out the lowest EMF models around, taking commercial monitors and moving the bad components into shielded boxes and filtering everything.  Sounds great).

There's been some discussion about another person in the States, I think the site is called "safelevel.com".  He seems somewhat misleading; only shields the magnetic field, gives no mention of the RF from the power conversion or the circuitry, etc., and didn't answer my emails about it.  Wouldn't go that route, personally.  I think the other choice (if you want something specifically designed to be low emf vs. off-the-shelf) is theway to go.

But others may have suggestions with commercially available monitors that work for them, too.

Good luck!

R.



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Hi Everyone



I've just joined the group after recently realising that the symptoms I have been esperiencing for the past two months (burning face, sore dry throat)are a result of ES brought on through my computer monitor. In short- I am petrified. I need a new monitor but don't know which to try. Can anyone reccommend anything? I am in the West Mids, UK.



Thanks

Diane





   
     

   
   


 



 






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> But others may have suggestions with commercially available monitors that
> work for them, too.

I use a 26" Sony HDTV with a PC (VGA) input. The advantage of having a
large monitor like this is that I can move it quite far away from me
(3-4 feet) and still see it quite easily (especially since I run it
at a rather low resolution - its native 768 x 1366). On top of that,
I'm using a shielded VGA cable (which so far seems to be even better
than the fiber optic DVI cable I tried), plus I have the backlight
set to about 40% of the maximum brightness. I think the computer
which feeds the monitor (probably most importantly the video card)
is also a factor -- I'm using an old GeForce FX5200 video card, which
someone else here also reported good results with.

I'm planning on upgrading computers pretty soon, so hopefully this
monitor will remain tolerable after the upgrade!

Marc

The lenovo l2440x LED backlit moniotr is pretty good monitor its what I currently use right now.

But I would highly recommend you try a DVI fiber optic cable first though (many stores allow returns) before investing in a new monitor, Ive tried 4 different monitors and ive found that changing monitors never made a big difference for me some where a bit worse than others but I always felt bad with all of them. Using a DVI fiber optic cable to connect my computer to my monitor made the biggest difference in my symptoms of anything Ive tried.

-Cristian

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Using a DVI fiber optic cable to connect my computer to my monitor made
the biggest difference in my symptoms of anything Ive tried.

-Cristian



puk replies - I hvae a DVI conection on the back of my DELL 19inch lcd
monitor and a cable but what has to be present in the PC, perhaps a special
card ?


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That depends on the graphics card in your PC.

There are cards with only a VGA connector, but there are also with a VGA
plus a DVI connector and there are with only 2 DVI connectors.

When your motherboard has a videcard integrated with only a VGA connector,
yoy can place a separate video card (f.i. Nvidia) in your motherboard and in
the BIOS the onboard viceo card can be de-activated.

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Charles Claessens
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Chris the L2440x lenovo monitor, couple questions:
1.) do you think it is blurry at all or harder to read? we have lenovo
monitors in our office, not that exact model, and they are really hard to
read
2.) do you think the LED backlight helps you as opposed to the regular
flourescent tubes?

Thanks.

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> Ive tried
> 4 different monitors and ive found that changing monitors never made a
> big difference for me some where a bit worse than others but I always
> felt bad with all of them. Using a DVI fiber optic cable to connect my
> computer to my monitor made the biggest difference in my symptoms of
> anything Ive tried.

Yes, people need to be more aware that when one has symptoms from their
keyboard/mouse/monitor, that sometimes they can "fix" the problem
by making a change elsewhere -- like the cables feeding these items, or
the computer that they are connected to, or the electrical power
feeding the computer.

Marc

Hi Paul you dont need any special card , the cable is just "plug in and play" just like a regular cable.


1. The monitor is not hard to read and the text is quite sharp, I think this problem is usually not the monitors fault, there is a setting that you can adjust from the computer so the the text is not blurry, at least on a macthere is.

A nice thing about this monitor is that the circuits inside are all shileded they are enclosed in sheet metal, so it offers a high ammount of RF shielding at least from some of the circuits inside the monitor.

2. Ive tried two LED backlight monitors the Dell g2410 and this one, I cant say LED backlit monitors where better than flourecent ones "when used normally" at reducing my symptoms, the g2410 was one of the worse ones for me actually.

As you probably know LED monitors offer deeper black though , so when you turn all the backgrounds black and the text white or another bright color it made the monitor more tolerable than a flourecent backlit monitor used the same way

On windows, this can be done by going to the control panel and then going to accessibility option and somewhere in there is an option for High contrast, it gives you different options one of them  basically turns all the backgrounds black and the letter white, pictures still show up normal.

I havnt found a way to do really do this on mac, but what I did is I put a really dark picture as my desktop background. and on mozilla or safari preferences you go to content and theres a button that says color and from there you can manually do this so it applies it to any site you go to.


This reduces some of the RF noise emmited by the monitor, you can hear the reduction with an AM radio and i I remeber correctly the magnetic field is also reduced. Its also alot easier on your eyes, I dont get any floaters onmy eyes any more when I use it like this.

Hi Everyone

Thanks for all the advice from everyone, I'm taking it all into consideration but going to try the fibre optic cable first simply because thats the cheapest first option!

Diane

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> Ive tried

> 4 different monitors and ive found that changing monitors never made a

> big difference for me some where a bit worse than others but I always

> felt bad with all of them. Using a DVI fiber optic cable to connect my

> computer to my monitor made the biggest difference in my symptoms of

> anything Ive tried.



Yes, people need to be more aware that when one has symptoms from their

keyboard/mouse/ monitor, that sometimes they can "fix" the problem

by making a change elsewhere -- like the cables feeding these items, or

the computer that they are connected to, or the electrical power

feeding the computer.



Marc



   
     

   
   


 



 






     

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> Thanks for all the advice from everyone, I'm taking it all into
> consideration but going to try the fibre optic cable first simply because
> thats the cheapest first option!

Is it? Those fiber optic cables are pretty expensive!

Marc

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
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> > Thanks for all the advice from everyone, I'm taking it all into
> > consideration but going to try the fibre optic cable first simply because
> > thats the cheapest first option!
>
> Is it? Those fiber optic cables are pretty expensive!
>
> Marc
>

Here's one source for optical DVI. Make sure you get
all fiber, as some are hybrid with copper cable. Cheap
it isn't.

http://www.opticis.com/

from my experience it's essential to eliminate the switching
power supply from the LCD monitor, and shield the main power
board, same thing Low EMF Office provides. That's probably your
best solution next to a custom data projector. Just sayin.

Here's what I did and am able to get a few hours on my
computer now. Most anything else burns me up within minutes.

http://www.ahappyhabitat.com/computer.html

You may want to contact Richard for consultation.

http://www.conradbiologic.com/

Eli

Oh- ok, it SOUNDED cheaper than buying a whole new monitor :-)

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--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the advice from everyone, I'm taking it all into
> > consideration but going to try the fibre optic cable first simply because
> > thats the cheapest first option!
>
> Is it? Those fiber optic cables are pretty expensive!
>
> Marc
>

Here's one source for optical DVI. Make sure you get
all fiber, as some are hybrid with copper cable. Cheap
it isn't.

http://www.opticis. com/

from my experience it's essential to eliminate the switching
power supply from the LCD monitor, and shield the main power
board, same thing Low EMF Office provides. That's probably your
best solution next to a custom data projector. Just sayin.

Here's what I did and am able to get a few hours on my
computer now. Most anything else burns me up within minutes.

http://www.ahappyha bitat.com/ computer. html

You may want to contact Richard for consultation.

http://www.conradbi ologic.com/

Eli









     

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