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sky_watch

Can A Home Have TOO Much Electrical Current Being Supplied To It?

Too much electrical current being supplied to a home? That's probably some sort of really dumb question but I was wondering if it's possible?

I have done everything in my home that's possible for me to do to eliminate or reduce my EMS and I'm still being actually shocked by my computer keyboard and mouse and my TV/Smart DVD player.

I can walk around my home and usually not be bothered but at times if I walk or am near an electrical outlet I can be shocked/burned (the sensation because there are no outward telltale signs). What's strange is that the too-much-electrical-current feeling doesn't happen all the time.

It just feels to me like too much electricity entering my home. Is that possible? Is it the same as "dirty electricity"?

Peacefulness,
Kay

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Marc Martin

Re: Can A Home Have TOO Much Electrical Current Being Supplied To It?

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That could be "dirty electricity". There are meters that would show that (e.g. Stetzerizer meter).

I once was in a house that had too much voltage, but that was rather obvious, as it was destroying things plugged into it. :-)

You may also have some kind of wiring issue or bad grounding, I guess. Although it may be hard to find someone to hire to come over and diagnose that, as it may require someone smarter than your average electrician.

Marc

Marc Martin

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I suppose the type of "expert" to diagnose such a thing would be a building biologist, if there are any near you... here is one list of such people in the USA, although I'm sure it's not complete. Perhaps calling the closest person on the list and asking if they know someone closer?

http://hbelc.org/findexpert/enviroconsult

Marc

sky_watch

Re: Can A Home Have TOO Much Electrical Current Being Supplied To It?

Thanks, Marc,
Do you think if it were the wiring it would be happening all the time? The shocking doesn't happen all the time. There was a period of time not too long past it wasn't happening all at or if it was it was so slight that I didn't notice it much. I will check out the building biologist suggestion.

Peacefulness,
Kay

Today is a good day for a good day!

Fog Top

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Has your electric utility begun using power line communication? If so, do you know what type? In the USA it is usually TWACS or Hunt Turtle TS2 type of power line communication (PLC). I'm curious because I never had a problem with electrical devices until our electric company began to use that horrid technology. It seems to energize the earth and I began to get shocked numerous times a day along with other maladies when it arrived to town.

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Too much electrical current being supplied to a home? That's probably some sort of really dumb question but I was wondering if it's possible?

I have done everything in my home that's possible for me to do to eliminate or reduce my EMS and I'm still being actually shocked by my computer keyboard and mouse and my TV/Smart DVD player.

I can walk around my home and usually not be bothered but at times if I walk or am near an electrical outlet I can be shocked/burned (the sensation because there are no outward telltale signs). What's strange is that the too-much-electrical-current feeling doesn't happen all the time.

It just feels to me like too much electricity entering my home. Is that possible? Is it the same as "dirty electricity"?

Peacefulness, Kay "I think it will be all right in the end, but if it is not all right, it is not yet the end." --The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel

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Marc Martin

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It would seem that if it was wiring that it would happen all the time, but on the other hand I suppose it could only happen if a certain lightswitch was turned on, or a certain outlet was in use. I don't know, really... just speculating!

Marc

Marc Martin

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Oh yes, power line communication, one of the various way to implement "Smart Meters". Can that be dealt with by treating it as "dirty electricity"? That is, using filters in the house...

Marc

Fog Top

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Power line communication is synonymous with powerful dirty electricity. I have found filters to be useless in mitigating the DE from it. The very low frequency type PLC used in the USA utilize frequency too close to the 60 Hz signal to be filtered out. TWACS power line communication/meter is so powerful that the signal can be stopped only at the substation, so it remains on the house wiring even when the breaker is off. It causes fluctuating electrical and magnetic fields, wiring to become antennas, and travels into the soil.

Here's excellent information on power line communication - written by an electrically sensitive engineer: http://www.eiwellspring.org/smartmeter/TWACS.htm

http://www.eiwellspring.org/plc.html

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Oh yes, power line communication, one of the various way to implement "Smart Meters". Can that be dealt with by treating it as "dirty electricity"? That is, using filters in the house...

Marc

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charles

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Dirty electricity I do devide in two parts.

Dirt electricity are frequencies from 5kHz up to 10, even 30MHz.

1. *Dirty power* is what i call the dirty frequencies which are present in the main electricity lines.

2. *Dirty air* are frequencies which are present in the air, and are emitted by appliances.
(these are the nasty ones.

A meter for detecting (and *hearing*) these frequencies I do recommend the Esmog Spion.
This one lets you measure high frequencies as well as the low frequencies.
See: http://www.priggen.com/Esmog-Spion-Inexpensive-Broadband-Receiver-for-Electrosmog

See also: http://www.hetbitje.nl/bitjeE2605n.pdf

I have 12 suitcases of meters and antennas, but the Esmog Spion is my favourite detector.
Especially when the telescope antenna is used, and the button on NF, you can easily detect many middle frequency sources.

Tryingtoheal

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Thank you for the links with great articles to understand this nightmare. I am pleased to say I looked up our zip code

from this link & it states we do not have PLC in ours. Everyone in the US can look up their zip codes.

www.bpldatabase.org

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Fog Top [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Power line communication is synonymous with powerful dirty electricity. I have found filters to be useless in mitigating the DE from it. The very low frequency type PLC used in the USA utilize frequency too close to the 60 Hz signal to be filtered out. TWACS power line communication/meter is so powerful that the signal can be stopped only at the substation, so it remains on the house wiring even when the breaker is off. It causes fluctuating electrical and magnetic fields, wiring to become antennas, and travels into the soil.

Here's excellent information on power line communication - written by an electrically sensitive engineer: http://www.eiwellspring.org/smartmeter/TWACS.htm

http://www.eiwellspring.org/plc.html

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Oh yes, power line communication, one of the various way to implement "Smart Meters". Can that be dealt with by treating it as "dirty electricity"? That is, using filters in the house...

Marc

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Fog Top

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BPL (broadband over power line) is a subset of PLC (power line communication). My town has PLC and it does not show on this BPL database, so your area may still have PLC. Best way to find out is to ask a utility technician that you run into on the street and hopefully they will tell you the truth. Many utilities feel free to lie to the customer today.

If you have Hunt Turtle TS2 power line communication, the meter will most likely have a little turtle emblem on it. TWACS (the worst) PLC's maker is Aclara who's logo is a small red square with rounded corners and two crossed white lines. Our Aclara TWACS meter is a Landis Gyr - it has a transceiver inside to communicate with wireless gas or water meters and whatever else they desire but are not telling us about (: The utility lies to the customers about its wireless capability.

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Thank you for the links with great articles to understand this nightmare. I am pleased to say I looked up our zip code

from this link & it states we do not have PLC in ours. Everyone in the US can look up their zip codes.

www.bpldatabase.org

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Fog Top [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Power line communication is synonymous with powerful dirty electricity. I have found filters to be useless in mitigating the DE from it. The very low frequency type PLC used in the USA utilize frequency too close to the 60 Hz signal to be filtered out. TWACS power line communication/meter is so powerful that the signal can be stopped only at the substation, so it remains on the house wiring even when the breaker is off. It causes fluctuating electrical and magnetic fields, wiring to become antennas, and travels into the soil.

Here's excellent information on power line communication - written by an electrically sensitive engineer: http://www.eiwellspring.org/smartmeter/TWACS.htm

http://www.eiwellspring.org/plc.html

Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:27:34 -0700
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Oh yes, power line communication, one of the various way to implement "Smart Meters". Can that be dealt with by treating it as "dirty electricity"? That is, using filters in the house...

Marc

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Tryingtoheal

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Thank you. I will ask a worker when I can.

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Fog Top [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:

BPL (broadband over power line) is a subset of PLC (power line communication). My town has PLC and it does not show on this BPL database, so your area may still have PLC. Best way to find out is to ask a utility technician that you run into on the street and hopefully they will tell you the truth. Many utilities feel free to lie to the customer today.

If you have Hunt Turtle TS2 power line communication, the meter will most likely have a little turtle emblem on it.  TWACS (the worst) PLC's maker is Aclara who's logo is a small red square with rounded corners and two crossed white lines. Our Aclara TWACS meter is a Landis Gyr - it has a transceiver inside to communicate with wireless gas or water meters and whatever else they desire but are not telling us about (:   The utility lies to the customers about its wireless capability.

Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 13:41:06 -0700
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Thank you for the links with great articles to understand this nightmare.   I am pleased to say I looked up our zip code
from this link & it states we do not have PLC in ours. Everyone in the US can look up their zip codes.

www.bpldatabase.org
.

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Fog Top [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Power line communication is synonymous with powerful dirty electricity.  I have found filters to be useless in mitigating the DE from it. The very low frequency type PLC used in the USA utilize frequency too close to the 60 Hz signal to be filtered out.   TWACS power line communication/meter is so powerful that the signal can be stopped only at the substation, so it remains on the house wiring even when the breaker is off. It causes fluctuating electrical and magnetic fields, wiring to become antennas, and travels into the soil.

Here's excellent information on power line communication - written by an electrically sensitive engineer:    http://www.eiwellspring.org/smartmeter/TWACS.htm

http://www.eiwellspring.org/plc.html

Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:27:34 -0700
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Oh yes, power line communication, one of the various way to implement "Smart Meters". Can that be dealt with by treating it as "dirty electricity"? That is, using filters in the house...

Marc

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Seeking_Sanctuary

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I started sensing electrical buzzing during different times at home around when people in the neighborhood got electric vehicles (EV) (and installing level 2 chargers)

My understanding about EV(s) when they are charging is that they may use broadband over powerline (BPL) to communicate with the power co. In my case, BPL is not used in my neighborhood.
Also, EV charging does not necessarily pull a constant amount of electrical load from the power co. There could some sort of schedule where the EV will pull more electrical load during certain hours and less at other times.
Plus, I believe those level 2 chargers use 240-volt circuits.

Perhaps others on the board who are more familiar with EV(s) or who are in similar situation could comment?

Burnie

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Katoi; I have that problem as well. I'm very static-y. I could be wrong, but I think it's more of as issue of reducing our static rather than a stray electricity/voltage issue. I did pose the question earlier on how to ground myself, but no answers so far.