Cable / phone wires next to power lines?

Hi all,

I've been taking a look outside of my house, looking at where the utility
lines come into the house. I see that the house's main power lines, the
phone lines (which I have DSL on), and the cable TV lines (with the
100 HDTV channels) all run parallel and with 2 inches of each other
for at least 20 feet. I'm wondering if all the high frequencies on
the DSL and cable lines are polluting the power lines along this
stretch, and if I'd be better off moving the phone and cable lines
away from the power lines?

Thanks,

Marc

If the cable TV is coaxial, then in the ideal world there
would be no problem with those. In the real world,
it depends how good the cable is, how far from the
amplifier or ground rod, whether the ground was any
good, whether there are sharp kinks in the cable.

The phone is probably twisted pair. Same ideal/vs
real issues.

What happens is you get signal on both conductors in the
cable, and then it will couple to anything. If there's somewhere
you can access the cables safely, try wrapping some foil
around one over several inches. See if the radio still buzzes.
If it does, then there's common mode sense on there and
your idea to move them might make sense.

Bill
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello There

I have had a look at mine and the phone service is grounded
to the same ground as the meter box from the power line.

I have asked the phone company about that and they say that is
the correct place.

A few years ago I had disconnected the TV wire (old fashioned flat wire) from the TV and had unplugged the TV power for 2 weeks and
the buzzing that I hear went away, it has since returned :-)





--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

In a message dated 28/11/2009 23:51:13 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

've been taking a look outside of my house, looking at where the utility

Dear all heres my story re Dirty Power - The plot thickens ! I have told
you all about the PLasma TV from hell polluting my house and gerdens from
over the road. Well its taken another turn. My sons scout master as girl
has anounced that she has ME and wont be able to continue. I thought I knew
where she lived, if I was correct then she was close to an array of very
powerful mobile phone antennas. But upon checking her adress she was no
longer located there(she had since moved with her family)The new adress I knew
as I had worked in the same road for a house developer who had kindly set
me up in a empty house there. I could switch off power and use a laptop and
he was happy. But alas I found the place unusually ES symptom provoking.
So I knew the raod to be mildy irradiated and also packed with cordless
phone signals. Suffice to say I could not work in the empty house dispite
turning off all electrics etc. To cut a long story short my intrest in the
Girl with ME stems from the fact that alot of ME sufferers are not aware of
ES and rf/mw emfs. I went to the girls new address to find that she lives
smack bang next to the partner of the man who happily irradiates me with
his large Plasma TV. I know this as he has the same electrical engineers
vans on his drive and as coincidence would have it its opposite to the house
I tried to work in.
Anyway I turned up to the address with my electrosmog detector and AM
radio. The Esmog detector showed very little at ground level, but the AM radio
started to growl loudly as I approached the electrical engineers house,
touching it to the conifer hedge it went balistic, a slightly different tone
than the one I pick up on my house wiring and garden plants ! but none the
less as powerful and relentless. So could it be that the electricians have
the same Plasma TVs in their homes perhaps they picked up a couple on a job
? are they wiring their houses up to the hilt as they are power hungry,
all I can say is that I would love to tell the scout master girl with the ME
that this may be the route of her problems (may have started when she lived
near telephone masts) ie DIRTY POWER ! she also has 2 autistic sons ! It
also makes my anger boil over when I consider that the partner of the man
with the Plasma is doing a similar thing where he lives and that it cost me
a job in that old empty house, which had metal ducted underfloor heating a
great conduit for dirty power emissions.

PUK - dO YOU SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE YOU ARE ON THE TRUMAN SHOW !



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Marc
 
This has given me food for thought. My ES came on very suddenly after the utility companies had been working in the road which is about 2.5m fromthe end gable of my house. The huge power cable which supplies my neighbourhood is in there and when they were working on the road they were installing communications cable [may have been fibre optic but am not sure]. could it be possible that that is what caused my sudden onset of ES? {sudden in that one night I went to sleep fine and the next I could feel electricity running all over my body] If that is the case, I won't be able to move any cabling myself since it doesn't belong to me and is public, but is there anything else I could do in my own home to mitigate against it if it is the case that high frequencies are polluting the power lines? Any ideas from anyone would be vey welcome.
 
Thanks
 
Steph

--- On Fri, 27/11/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Cable / phone wires next to power lines?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, 27 November, 2009, 18:48


 



Hi all,

I've been taking a look outside of my house, looking at where the utility
lines come into the house. I see that the house's main power lines, the
phone lines (which I have DSL on), and the cable TV lines (with the
100 HDTV channels) all run parallel and with 2 inches of each other
for at least 20 feet. I'm wondering if all the high frequencies on
the DSL and cable lines are polluting the power lines along this
stretch, and if I'd be better off moving the phone and cable lines
away from the power lines?

Thanks,

Marc








     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Paul
 
This is very interesting - I have had ME for almost 8 years now [ES for 2.5years] and it is difficult to avoid the EMF link as a contributory factor.not a day goes by that another "amazing device" comes onto the market and first of all I think - why can't people live their lives without these things? they managed perfectly well before and then I think why is there no regulation? no assessment of public safety or health effects? slowly but surely we are destroying the human race with these things. And if you dare to speak up against them you are branded a crackpot. What has happened to peoplethat they cannot open their minds far enough to do a bit of research for themselves and access the reams of reports which show that all this stuff isdamaging even to people who don't feel the ill health effects of it.
 
Fully sympathise with your situation Paul!
 
BW
 
Steph
 


--- On Sun, 29/11/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Cable / phone wires next to power lines?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 10:34


 




In a message dated 28/11/2009 23:51:13 GMT Standard Time,
nonnijonsson@ yahoo.ca writes:

've been taking a look outside of my house, looking at where the utility
Dear all heres my story re Dirty Power - The plot thickens ! I have told
you all about the PLasma TV from hell polluting my house and gerdens from
over the road. Well its taken another turn. My sons scout master as girl
has anounced that she has ME and wont be able to continue. I thought I knew
where she lived, if I was correct then she was close to an array of very
powerful mobile phone antennas. But upon checking her adress she was no
longer located there(she had since moved with her family)The new adress I knew
as I had worked in the same road for a house developer who had kindly set
me up in a empty house there. I could switch off power and use a laptop and
he was happy. But alas I found the place unusually ES symptom provoking.
So I knew the raod to be mildy irradiated and also packed with cordless
phone signals. Suffice to say I could not work in the empty house dispite
turning off all electrics etc. To cut a long story short my intrest in the
Girl with ME stems from the fact that alot of ME sufferers are not aware of
ES and rf/mw emfs. I went to the girls new address to find that she lives
smack bang next to the partner of the man who happily irradiates me with
his large Plasma TV. I know this as he has the same electrical engineers
vans on his drive and as coincidence would have it its opposite to the house
I tried to work in.
Anyway I turned up to the address with my electrosmog detector and AM
radio. The Esmog detector showed very little at ground level, but the AM radio
started to growl loudly as I approached the electrical engineers house,
touching it to the conifer hedge it went balistic, a slightly different tone
than the one I pick up on my house wiring and garden plants ! but none the
less as powerful and relentless. So could it be that the electricians have
the same Plasma TVs in their homes perhaps they picked up a couple on a job
? are they wiring their houses up to the hilt as they are power hungry,
all I can say is that I would love to tell the scout master girl with the ME
that this may be the route of her problems (may have started when she lived
near telephone masts) ie DIRTY POWER ! she also has 2 autistic sons ! It
also makes my anger boil over when I consider that the partner of the man
with the Plasma is doing a similar thing where he lives and that it cost me
a job in that old empty house, which had metal ducted underfloor heating a
great conduit for dirty power emissions.

PUK - dO YOU SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE YOU ARE ON THE TRUMAN SHOW !


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]









     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> If that is the case, I
> won't be able to move any cabling myself since it doesn't belong to me
> and is public, but is there anything else I could do in my own home to
> mitigate against it if it is the case that high frequencies are polluting
> the power lines?

Power line filters (like the Stetzer filters that are often mentioned here),
or whole house EMF devices, like those sold from Quantum Products or Earthcalm,
or Tachyon silica discs on the fuse box might all help individually or in
combination.

Marc

I'm wondering what it would take to get the NEC or local
building code modified to encourage NOT to ground electric
to the water pipes, perhaps not to ground TV except to its
own rod, etc. I really don't know enough to propose the
exact changes, but such things can reduce the magnetic
fields and not be dangerous if everything else is as it should
be. Lightning protection can be done with air gaps. TV cables
should have both conductors disconnected if the person
doesn't subscribe.

Bill

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

thanks Marc - will give them a try.
 
BW
Steph

--- On Sun, 29/11/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cable / phone wires next to power lines?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 16:45


 



> If that is the case, I
> won't be able to move any cabling myself since it doesn't belong to me
> and is public, but is there anything else I could do in my own home to
> mitigate against it if it is the case that high frequencies are polluting
> the power lines?

Power line filters (like the Stetzer filters that are often mentioned here),
or whole house EMF devices, like those sold from Quantum Products or Earthcalm,
or Tachyon silica discs on the fuse box might all help individually or in
combination.

Marc








     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Bill
 
I think there is a lot of laziness out there - ie if someone stops subscribing the company thinks it is enough for them to just not recieve the service anymore nevermind the extra work for them which would be involved in disconnecting the conductors. I also think there is a lot of lack of accurate knowledge on the interplay between different type of cables on the part of installers [and those planning for the infrastructure] who are probably trained to do "their bit" without much or any knowledge of how their stuff can interact with other cable that has been laid and the negative effects it can have. When I first had problems I tried to raise this with the roads authority to find out who had laid what - they didn't even know who had been working on the road even though it is their property and they have the ultimate responsibility for what happens on it and beneath its surface. I admit that at that point I was so sick and so scared I gave up pushing it
and I also didn't have enough knowledge about what was happening except that I knew something was wrong.
 
Bw
 
Steph

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cable / phone wires next to power lines?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 3:23


I'm wondering what it would take to get the NEC or local
building code modified to encourage NOT to ground electric
to the water pipes, perhaps not to ground TV except to its
own rod, etc.  I really don't know enough to propose the
exact changes, but such things can reduce the magnetic
fields and not be dangerous if everything else is as it should
be.  Lightning protection can be done with air gaps.  TV cables
should have both conductors disconnected if the person
doesn't subscribe.

Bill

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links






     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]