Hello,
Back in 2005 I was using a product that had an unusual strong positive lifeforce effect, it was/is called Nano-2+ and is supposedly manufactured by a company called Advanced Nano Technology LLC. I stopped using the product because it was not disclosed what stuff was actually in it and I found out that they had other products which were claiming stuff which was untrue. Lately I am wondering if the Nano-2+ is actually a private label product ofthe popular NuScience Corporation's CELLFOOD? Anyone here with experience of any/both of these products? Thanks, Ole |
I'm using cell food by lumina & it seems to give me a bit of energy. Loni
--- On Thu, 10/29/09, alstrup <[hidden email]> wrote: From: alstrup <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] CELLFOOD from NuScience To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 5:15 PM Hello, Back in 2005 I was using a product that had an unusual strong positive lifeforce effect, it was/is called Nano-2+ and is supposedly manufactured by a company called Advanced Nano Technology LLC. I stopped using the product because it was not disclosed what stuff was actually in it and I found out that they had other products which were claiming stuff which was untrue. Lately I am wondering if the Nano-2+ is actually a private label product ofthe popular NuScience Corporation' s CELLFOOD? Anyone here with experience of any/both of these products? Thanks, Ole [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Lately I am wondering if the Nano-2+ is actually a private label product
> of the popular NuScience Corporation's CELLFOOD? Hmmm, I've never heard of Nano-2+, but Cellfood has a rather unique taste and oxygenating/energy boosting/detox properties, so I'd think you'd be able to tell if they were the same thing? The only Cellfood competitors I know of are Cell Renew: http://www.sandentco.com/ Cell Power: http://www.positivepowernutrition.com/products/cellpower/ OxyLift : http://www.oxygenamerica.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=410 Deutrocell: http://d2so4online.com/ I've tried Cellfood, Cell Renew, OxyLift, and Cell Power, and thus far have preferred Cellfood in terms of benefits vs. side effects. It's also the most readily available locally in the health food stores. Marc |
The one I have is Lumina out of California. I get it at Sprouts. Loni
--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] CELLFOOD from NuScience To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 6:42 PM > Lately I am wondering if the Nano-2+ is actually a private label product > of the popular NuScience Corporation' s CELLFOOD? Hmmm, I've never heard of Nano-2+, but Cellfood has a rather unique taste and oxygenating/ energy boosting/detox properties, so I'd think you'd be able to tell if they were the same thing? The only Cellfood competitors I know of are Cell Renew: http://www.sandentc o.com/ Cell Power: http://www.positive powernutrition. com/products/ cellpower/ OxyLift : http://www.oxygenam erica.com/ ProductDetails. aspx?ProductID= 410 Deutrocell: http://d2so4online. com/ I've tried Cellfood, Cell Renew, OxyLift, and Cell Power, and thus far have preferred Cellfood in terms of benefits vs. side effects. It's also the most readily available locally in the health food stores. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thanks for the info Marc. How does CELLFOOD taste when dissolved in water? Is it sour tasting? Nano-2+ seems to be a copycat product. I will order CELLFOOD and try it.
--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Lately I am wondering if the Nano-2+ is actually a private label product > > of the popular NuScience Corporation's CELLFOOD? > > Hmmm, I've never heard of Nano-2+, but Cellfood has a rather unique taste > and oxygenating/energy boosting/detox properties, so I'd think you'd > be able to tell if they were the same thing? > > The only Cellfood competitors I know of are > > Cell Renew: http://www.sandentco.com/ > Cell Power: http://www.positivepowernutrition.com/products/cellpower/ > OxyLift : http://www.oxygenamerica.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=410 > Deutrocell: http://d2so4online.com/ > > I've tried Cellfood, Cell Renew, OxyLift, and Cell Power, and thus far have > preferred Cellfood in terms of benefits vs. side effects. It's also the > most readily available locally in the health food stores. > > Marc > |
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> Thanks for the info Marc. How does CELLFOOD taste when dissolved in
> water? Is it sour tasting? Nano-2+ seems to be a copycat product. I will > order CELLFOOD and try it. Yes, it's kind of like adding lemon to your water -- the pH of CELLFOOD is very low... It's the deuterium sulfate that makes these sorts of product "unique". Most of the products I listed have deuterium sulfate in them, although often it is not mentioned on the label (!?). As for whether CELLFOOD helps or worsens ES, I find it depends on the dosage and the circumstances. But sometimes it does help. Marc |
OK, then I was on the right track. The NanO2+ has that sour taste. I didnt know about deuterium and CELLFOOD etc until you mentioned it, as it is not mentioned on the product label of NanO2+, I found deuterium mentioned on one page that NanO2+ has
* 85 electrically charged minerals in a Fulvic Acid deuterium base; * 18 amino acids; and * 28 metabolic enzymes. I never came across deuterium before, but I found a reference at the NuScience site that says: "For more than 40 years, NuScience Corporation has manufactured Everett Storey's original CELLFOOD formula containing 78 minerals, 34 enzymes, and 17 amino acids. CELLFOOD utilizes a proprietary water-splitting technology that provides a powerful stream of bio-available oxygen plus 129 nutrients directly to the cells." ...so NanO2+ is basically a copycat of the CELLFOOD. I am looking forward to try the CELLFOOD next week and see if it has the same effect or better than NanO2+. I vividly remember the extremely positive effect, although no proper explanation was given other than it had fulvic acid. Will see what I can find about Everett Storey, I already found some information about deuterium sulfate and it looks very scamlike. Thanks Marc! Ole --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Thanks for the info Marc. How does CELLFOOD taste when dissolved in > > water? Is it sour tasting? Nano-2+ seems to be a copycat product. I will > > order CELLFOOD and try it. > > Yes, it's kind of like adding lemon to your water -- the pH of CELLFOOD > is very low... > > It's the deuterium sulfate that makes these sorts of product "unique". > Most of the products I listed have deuterium sulfate in them, although > often it is not mentioned on the label (!?). > > As for whether CELLFOOD helps or worsens ES, I find it depends on the > dosage and the circumstances. But sometimes it does help. > > Marc > |
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> Will see what I can find about Everett Storey, I already found some
> information about deuterium sulfate and it looks very scamlike. I really like these deuterium sulfate products, although I will warn you that a lot of the backstory about them is fabricated. Basically, Deuterium Sulfate started use in the early 1950's as a "Reynolds Soil Conditioner", invented by Lee Reynolds. It was publicized in the late 1950's by Everett Story (a magazine publisher) and eventually he began a company selling it as both a soil conditioner ("Open All") and a nutritional supplement ("Cellfood"). Although claimed to cure many illnesses, Everett Storey himself died of throat cancer in his early 70's. The company he started ("Deutrel Labs") got taken over by some other folks and is know known as "Deutrel Industries". They still manufacture CELLFOOD today, and began marketing it as nutritional supplement in the late 1990s, and Lumina Health took over US distribution in the early 2000s. The original Reynolds product is still sold as a soil conditioner and also as a competing nutritional supplement ("Cell Power"). CELLFOOD really has had a good impact on various aspects of my health (fighting viruses, increasing energy/stamina, reducing chemical sensitivities, reducing allergies), in spite of the questionable information you may find about it online. Here is a website created by someone who used to take care of Everett Storey in his final years, and also used to help in the manufacture of CELLFOOD in the 1980's: http://evstorey.com/ And here is the manufacturer's website ("Nu Science = Deutrel Industries"): http://nuscience.com/ http://deutrel.com/ Marc |
Hi Marc,
Thanks so much for the further info, greatly appreciated. One thing I wouldreally like to know more about how CELLFOOD can fight viruses. What are your experiences? As you know, I am recovering - but still suffering - from adrenal fatigue and my immune system is weakened, because my adrenal glands are not making enough cortisol. This means that I am very suceptible to viruses and infections and normal immune tonics doesnt help to modulate immuneresponse because of lacking cortisol that is the key switch for the immunesystem. Last November when I had been on the Wilson protocol including theadrenal gland extracts for 3 months, I got 3 infections in a row during the flu season and was a zombie for two months straight. This year I am on colloidal silver as a daily prevention and GSE. While taking a short break from the CS and GSE (I got careless, that was stupid) my wife got contaminated with a flu last saturday and I got it as well (hope it was the H1N1) but were able to break it with high dosages of CS/GSE before it developed into general flu symptoms, after the initial two days, just as I thought it was over, we both developed a severe fatigue, which lasted for 4-5 days, so despite the CS/GSE, the virus we got had been able to affect our immune system. I am using Silver Biotics from American Biotech Labs and GSE from Nutribiotic. Do let me know if you have any other recommendations for stuff which will fight viruses directly. Thanks, Ole --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Will see what I can find about Everett Storey, I already found some > > information about deuterium sulfate and it looks very scamlike. > > I really like these deuterium sulfate products, although I will warn you > that a lot of the backstory about them is fabricated. Basically, > Deuterium Sulfate started use in the early 1950's as a "Reynolds > Soil Conditioner", invented by Lee Reynolds. It was publicized in the > late 1950's by Everett Story (a magazine publisher) and eventually he > began a company selling it as both a soil conditioner ("Open All") and a > nutritional supplement ("Cellfood"). Although claimed to cure many > illnesses, Everett Storey himself died of throat cancer in his > early 70's. The company he started ("Deutrel Labs") got taken over by > some other folks and is know known as "Deutrel Industries". They > still manufacture CELLFOOD today, and began marketing it as nutritional > supplement in the late 1990s, and Lumina Health took over US > distribution in the early 2000s. > > The original Reynolds product is still sold as a soil conditioner > and also as a competing nutritional supplement ("Cell Power"). > > CELLFOOD really has had a good impact on various aspects of my health > (fighting viruses, increasing energy/stamina, reducing chemical sensitivities, > reducing allergies), in spite of the questionable information you > may find about it online. > > Here is a website created by someone who used to take care of > Everett Storey in his final years, and also used to help in the > manufacture of CELLFOOD in the 1980's: > > http://evstorey.com/ > > And here is the manufacturer's website ("Nu Science = Deutrel Industries"): > > http://nuscience.com/ > http://deutrel.com/ > > Marc > |
PS. I was doing some research about Chinese Star Anise and Oil of Oregano. Had forgot all about Star Anise and the connection with Tamiflu. Anyone here with experience of these?
http://fightinfluenzanaturally.blogspot.com/2009/10/star-anise.html http://fightinfluenzanaturally.blogspot.com/2009/10/oil-of-oregano.html Thanks, Ole --- In [hidden email], "alstrup" <alstrup@...> wrote: > > Hi Marc, > > Thanks so much for the further info, greatly appreciated. One thing I would really like to know more about how CELLFOOD can fight viruses. What are your experiences? As you know, I am recovering - but still suffering - fromadrenal fatigue and my immune system is weakened, because my adrenal glands are not making enough cortisol. This means that I am very suceptible to viruses and infections and normal immune tonics doesnt help to modulate immune response because of lacking cortisol that is the key switch for the immune system. Last November when I had been on the Wilson protocol including the adrenal gland extracts for 3 months, I got 3 infections in a row during the flu season and was a zombie for two months straight. This year I am on colloidal silver as a daily prevention and GSE. While taking a short break from the CS and GSE (I got careless, that was stupid) my wife got contaminated with a flu last saturday and I got it as well (hope it was the H1N1) but were able to break it with high dosages of CS/GSE before it developed into general flu symptoms, after the initial two days, just as I thought it was over, we both developed a severe fatigue, which lasted for 4-5 days, so despite the CS/GSE, the virus we got had been able to affect our immune system. I am using Silver Biotics from American Biotech Labs and GSE from Nutribiotic. Do let me know if you have any other recommendations for stuff which will fight viruses directly. > > Thanks, > > Ole > > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote: > > > > > Will see what I can find about Everett Storey, I already found some > > > information about deuterium sulfate and it looks very scamlike. > > > > I really like these deuterium sulfate products, although I will warn you > > that a lot of the backstory about them is fabricated. Basically, > > Deuterium Sulfate started use in the early 1950's as a "Reynolds > > Soil Conditioner", invented by Lee Reynolds. It was publicized in the > > late 1950's by Everett Story (a magazine publisher) and eventually he > > began a company selling it as both a soil conditioner ("Open All") and a > > nutritional supplement ("Cellfood"). Although claimed to cure many > > illnesses, Everett Storey himself died of throat cancer in his > > early 70's. The company he started ("Deutrel Labs") got taken over by > > some other folks and is know known as "Deutrel Industries". They > > still manufacture CELLFOOD today, and began marketing it as nutritional > > supplement in the late 1990s, and Lumina Health took over US > > distribution in the early 2000s. > > > > The original Reynolds product is still sold as a soil conditioner > > and also as a competing nutritional supplement ("Cell Power"). > > > > CELLFOOD really has had a good impact on various aspects of my health > > (fighting viruses, increasing energy/stamina, reducing chemical sensitivities, > > reducing allergies), in spite of the questionable information you > > may find about it online. > > > > Here is a website created by someone who used to take care of > > Everett Storey in his final years, and also used to help in the > > manufacture of CELLFOOD in the 1980's: > > > > http://evstorey.com/ > > > > And here is the manufacturer's website ("Nu Science = Deutrel Industries"): > > > > http://nuscience.com/ > > http://deutrel.com/ > > > > Marc > > > |
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> One thing I would really like to know more about how CELLFOOD can
> fight viruses. What are your experiences? It may be as simple as the pH change that occurs in your body from taking Cellfood. I assume that viruses can only survive in a certain pH range? Otherwise, the oxidizing capacity of Cellfood might be a factor.... I don't know really, just that it does work for me at times. I also do well taking citrus seed extract (Agrisept-L is what I take, as I got sensitized to GSE), which might also be a pH thing. I do NOT do well with colloidal silver -- it makes my ES worse. Also for preventing illnesses, I've experimented some with Hulda Clark zappers (which might work, especially at a 2.5khz frequency), "Living Streams Probiotic", and also LDM-100: http://www.collagendiet.com/grapefruit_seed_extract.htm http://www.livingstreamsmission.com/ http://choosecra.com/store/immune/ldm-100.html Although for me, I think Agrisept-L works the best overall for this sort of thing. Marc |
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Do let me know if you have any other recommendations for stuff which will fight viruses directly.
> > Thanks, > > Ole > Ole, eat 3-4 cloves of raw garlic daily. It is cheap, easy and it works! You won't smell like garlic when you've eaten it daily for some time (5-14 days?). Mix it with any food, but don't cook it. If you have an ongoing infection with symptoms from the sinuses/nose/throat, keep a raw garlic clove in the mouth at all times (replace at mealtimes with new clove). If you have symptoms from the lungs, blend some garlic cloves with a mix of coconut oil and olive oil (use e.g a coffee grinder). Rub this lotion on your chest. Regards, John. |
I found an Ayurvedic effective med called "Guduchi" formula. It is an immune booster, which helps fight viruses. This was prescribed by an Ayurvedicpractitoner based on my allergies, intolerances, reactions and medical history. I read recently, that Ayurvedic pratitioners found some compounds which fights off HIV, but this ended up in Supreme Courts in India, instigated by Big Pharma giants. Ayurvedic pratitioners,were not allowed to sell as a cure for HIVm aghhhhh More or less same story with Vit B15 and Vit B17 ... Meanwhile, journals of phytochemistry and epigenetics are literally looting, raiding the wealth of knowledge from Ayurvedic and TCM medicine, in regards to those compounds in fruits, tree bark, roots and leaves and marketing/promoting these, an example of this is Resveratrol!! It contains: Cornospora Cordifolia Glycyrrhiza glabra Vetiveria zizanioides Coscinium jenestratum Curcuma longa Some of these compounds are chemoprophylatic, penetrating deep into tissues. Holy Basil is also a good immune booster, good for bronchitis, and clearingmucous, against Hep A, etc... It would need to be taken in therapeutic dosage, eating a few leaves here and there would not suffice. I am seeing an Ayurvedic practitioner, and wish I heard of this type of medicine before. I have not had any reactions to what I am taking, except at first, some tingling in cheeks, from Triphala, a good gentle, detox amongst its other therapeutic properties. --- In [hidden email], "johnottawa80" <johnottawa80@...> wrote: > > Do let me know if you have any other recommendations for stuff which willfight viruses directly. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ole > > > > > Ole, > eat 3-4 cloves of raw garlic daily. It is cheap, easy and it works! > You won't smell like garlic when you've eaten it daily for some time (5-14 days?). > Mix it with any food, but don't cook it. > If you have an ongoing infection with symptoms from the sinuses/nose/throat, keep a raw garlic clove in the mouth at all times (replace at mealtimeswith new clove). If you have symptoms from the lungs, blend some garlic cloves with a mix of coconut oil and olive oil (use e.g a coffee grinder). Rub this lotion on your chest. > > Regards, > John. > |
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I read recently, that viruses thrive in alkaline environment, I can't remember which pH range. The article reported that during winter months, colds and flus are on the rise precisely because we are more alkaline, and that eating citrus fruits to ward off colds is to be avoided!! Need to read up more about this, I am sitting on the fence for this one. --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > One thing I would really like to know more about how CELLFOOD can > > fight viruses. What are your experiences? > > It may be as simple as the pH change that occurs in your body from > taking Cellfood. I assume that viruses can only survive in a certain pH > range? Otherwise, the oxidizing capacity of Cellfood might be a > factor.... I don't know really, just that it does work for me at times. > > I also do well taking citrus seed extract (Agrisept-L is what I take, as > I got sensitized to GSE), which might also be a pH thing. I do NOT do > well with colloidal silver -- it makes my ES worse. > > Also for preventing illnesses, I've experimented some with Hulda Clark > zappers (which might work, especially at a 2.5khz frequency), "Living > Streams Probiotic", and also LDM-100: > > http://www.collagendiet.com/grapefruit_seed_extract.htm > http://www.livingstreamsmission.com/ > http://choosecra.com/store/immune/ldm-100.html > > Although for me, I think Agrisept-L works the best overall for this > sort of thing. > > Marc > |
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Hi John,
Thanks for the reminder. I am actually using raw garlic as you recommend, but I cant use it daily, it is too sedating for me. I typically use it immediately when I get symptoms of a cold or flu. Thanks, Ole ________________________________ From: johnottawa80 <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sun, 1 November, 2009 11:38:24 Subject: [eSens] Garlic (Re: CELLFOOD from NuScience) Do let me know if you have any other recommendations for stuff which will fight viruses directly. > > Thanks, > > Ole > Ole, eat 3-4 cloves of raw garlic daily. It is cheap, easy and it works! You won't smell like garlic when you've eaten it daily for some time (5-14 days?). Mix it with any food, but don't cook it. If you have an ongoing infection with symptoms from the sinuses/nose/ throat, keep a raw garlic clove in the mouth at all times (replace at mealtimes with new clove). If you have symptoms from the lungs, blend some garlic cloves with a mix of coconut oil and olive oil (use e.g a coffee grinder). Rub this lotion on your chest. Regards, John. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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The name "deuterium sulfate" is a good example of why a lot of people
dismiss these things as cleverly marketed snake oil. Deuterium is a scientific term which was hot news in the 1940's and 1950's and therefore seems to have been "borrowed" to make the marketing claims for Cellfood look and sound more impressive. It is actually a form of hydrogen, very expensive and specially made for atomic bombs and nuclear reactors. "Deuterium sulphate" would actually be identical in properties to hydrogen sulphate, which is common or garden sulphuric acid! Now this does NOT mean that CELLFOOD does not work - only that some of the marketing blurb used to advertise it in the past was at best misleading (and at worst, off its trolley!). Sometimes an over-enthusiastic marketing guy will start producing statements that would give kittens to the guys who actually develop or make the product :-) Often a little knowledge can be a very dangerous thing .... I did not spot any reference to deuterium sulphate in a quick scan of the Nuscience website, so it looks as if they are, very wisely, distancing themselves from this terminology and concentrating on more realistic descriptions of how it actually might work in reality :-) That being said, one blogger did try it with a piece of litmus paper and got a very low pH reading, which would correspond to concentrated sulphuric acid! (http://episteme.ca/2007/02/27/i-paid-50-to-drink-concentrated-sulfuric-acid /) I'm a bit dubious of this claim, as it means Cellfood would give you burns if you failed to dilute it properly. But maybe sulphuric acid is a major component. And maybe this might indeed help if one of your underlying problems is inorganic sulphate deficiency (liver metabolic pathways again!) which, like magnesium sulphate, this should help with. (It might be worth trying Epsom salts or dilute sulphuric acid instead, as they should be a lot cheaper than Cellfood :-) I suspect that in practice, Cellfood has a number of other genuinely useful nutrients added. Ian _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc Martin Sent: 31 October 2009 22:53 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: CELLFOOD from NuScience > Will see what I can find about Everett Storey, I already found some > information about deuterium sulfate and it looks very scamlike. I really like these deuterium sulfate products, although I will warn you that a lot of the backstory about them is fabricated. Basically, Deuterium Sulfate started use in the early 1950's as a "Reynolds Soil Conditioner", invented by Lee Reynolds. It was publicized in the late 1950's by Everett Story (a magazine publisher) and eventually he began a company selling it as both a soil conditioner ("Open All") and a nutritional supplement ("Cellfood"). Although claimed to cure many illnesses, Everett Storey himself died of throat cancer in his early 70's. The company he started ("Deutrel Labs") got taken over by some other folks and is know known as "Deutrel Industries". They still manufacture CELLFOOD today, and began marketing it as nutritional supplement in the late 1990s, and Lumina Health took over US distribution in the early 2000s. The original Reynolds product is still sold as a soil conditioner and also as a competing nutritional supplement ("Cell Power"). CELLFOOD really has had a good impact on various aspects of my health (fighting viruses, increasing energy/stamina, reducing chemical sensitivities, reducing allergies), in spite of the questionable information you may find about it online. Here is a website created by someone who used to take care of Everett Storey in his final years, and also used to help in the manufacture of CELLFOOD in the 1980's: http://evstorey. <http://evstorey.com/> com/ And here is the manufacturer's website ("Nu Science = Deutrel Industries"): http://nuscience. <http://nuscience.com/> com/ http://deutrel. <http://deutrel.com/> com/ Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> The name "deuterium sulfate" is a good example of why a lot of
> people dismiss these things as cleverly marketed snake oil. > Deuterium is a scientific term which was hot news in the 1940's and > 1950's and therefore seems to have been "borrowed" to make the > marketing claims for Cellfood look and sound more impressive. It is > actually a form of hydrogen, very expensive and specially made for > atomic bombs and nuclear reactors. "Deuterium sulphate" would > actually be identical in properties to hydrogen sulphate, which is > common or garden sulphuric acid! I've taken Cellfood for the past 10 years, and since it seems to be such an odd supplement, have researched it a lot. I do think it is supposed to contain deuterium sulfate (D2SO4), not sulfuric acid (H2SO4), as I recall the old 1970's literature on it talking about "heavy water", and being the same stuff used in hydrogen bombs (and Everett Storey apparently did have something to do with the hydrogen bomb, that much appears to be true). They were quite emphatic that this was NOT the same thing as sulfuric acid. But you're right -- these days they don't even mention the word "deuterium" or "sulfate" on the bottle or in their marketing, as I imagine they don't want to scare people off. You can put it directly on your skin, undiluted, without problems. One of the competitor products says their product contains "6.3% Deutrosulfuric acid". And years ago, the Nu Science website referred to CELLFOOD as "Deutrosulfazyme". I have wondered about the "sulfate" part of it, and whether magnesium sulfate would provide similar benefits, but I get no reaction from epsom salt baths, while I have quite a good reaction to Cellfood. So I don't think it's the sulfate... Marc |
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Hello Ian,
Many thanks for the input. Do you have any references with regards to inorganic sulphate deficiency relating to liver problems? Thanks, Ole ________________________________ From: Ian Kemp <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Mon, 2 November, 2009 0:28:29 Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: CELLFOOD from NuScience The name "deuterium sulfate" is a good example of why a lot of people dismiss these things as cleverly marketed snake oil. Deuterium is a scientific term which was hot news in the 1940's and 1950's and therefore seems to have been "borrowed" to make the marketing claims for Cellfood look and sound more impressive. It is actually a form of hydrogen, very expensive and specially made for atomic bombs and nuclear reactors. "Deuterium sulphate" would actually be identical in properties to hydrogen sulphate, which is common or garden sulphuric acid! Now this does NOT mean that CELLFOOD does not work - only that some of the marketing blurb used to advertise it in the past was at best misleading (and at worst, off its trolley!). Sometimes an over-enthusiastic marketing guy will start producing statements that would give kittens to the guys who actually develop or make the product :-) Often a little knowledge can be a very dangerous thing .... I did not spot any reference to deuterium sulphate in a quick scan of the Nuscience website, so it looks as if they are, very wisely, distancing themselves from this terminology and concentrating on more realistic descriptions of how it actually might work in reality :-) That being said, one blogger did try it with a piece of litmus paper and got a very low pH reading, which would correspond to concentrated sulphuric acid! (http://episteme. ca/2007/02/ 27/i-paid- 50-to-drink- concentrated- sulfuric- acid /) I'm a bit dubious of this claim, as it means Cellfood would give you burns if you failed to dilute it properly. But maybe sulphuric acid is a major component. And maybe this might indeed help if one of your underlying problems is inorganic sulphate deficiency (liver metabolic pathways again!) which, like magnesium sulphate, this should help with. (It might be worth trying Epsom salts or dilute sulphuric acid instead, as they should be a lot cheaper than Cellfood :-) I suspect that in practice, Cellfood has a number of other genuinely useful nutrients added. Ian _____ From: eSens@yahoogroups. com [mailto:eSens@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Marc Martin Sent: 31 October 2009 22:53 To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: CELLFOOD from NuScience > Will see what I can find about Everett Storey, I already found some > information about deuterium sulfate and it looks very scamlike. I really like these deuterium sulfate products, although I will warn you that a lot of the backstory about them is fabricated. Basically, Deuterium Sulfate started use in the early 1950's as a "Reynolds Soil Conditioner" , invented by Lee Reynolds. It was publicized in the late 1950's by Everett Story (a magazine publisher) and eventually he began a company selling it as both a soil conditioner ("Open All") and a nutritional supplement ("Cellfood") . Although claimed to cure many illnesses, Everett Storey himself died of throat cancer in his early 70's. The company he started ("Deutrel Labs") got taken over by some other folks and is know known as "Deutrel Industries". They still manufacture CELLFOOD today, and began marketing it as nutritional supplement in the late 1990s, and Lumina Health took over US distribution in the early 2000s. The original Reynolds product is still sold as a soil conditioner and also as a competing nutritional supplement ("Cell Power"). CELLFOOD really has had a good impact on various aspects of my health (fighting viruses, increasing energy/stamina, reducing chemical sensitivities, reducing allergies), in spite of the questionable information you may find about it online. Here is a website created by someone who used to take care of Everett Storey in his final years, and also used to help in the manufacture of CELLFOOD in the 1980's: http://evstorey. <http://evstorey. com/> com/ And here is the manufacturer' s website ("Nu Science = Deutrel Industries") : http://nuscience. <http://nuscience. com/> com/ http://deutrel. <http://deutrel. com/> com/ Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In addition to, or instead of, garlic...
If I had to fight a viral infection, I'd try East Park Olive Leaf Extract, and take 2-3 times as much as recommended on the bottle. You can read about it in a book called 'Olive Leaf Extract' by Morton Walker, costs 6 USD at amazon.com. JOhn. --- In [hidden email], "alstrup" <alstrup@...> wrote: Do let me know if you have any other recommendations for stuff which will fight viruses directly. > > Thanks, > > Ole |
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Hi, Ole,
Yes, I have used oregano oil. You do not want to use full strength oregano oil internally (I don't even use it externally full strength). It is too irritating full strength. I like it. I does give me some real detox fog, so I know it is working. How do you wish to use it, Ole? Are you killing off particular gut bugs? I use it on my gums--I brush my teeth with some on a toothbrush, and dilute it even more for use in my nose. (I lay down for about 5 or 10 mins and just sniff a dropful of diluted oegano oil into each of my nostrils for my sinuses.) I dilute it with olive oil. I like using oregano oil capsules and breaking them open, so that the oregano oil is fresher and more potent. Another thing I use often when killing candida is monolauren--it is a coconut based product which comes in little pellets that you chew and swallow. I take a tablespoon between meals. I like using coconut oil too, as well as grapefruit seed extract. And whey powder--I add it to my breakfast yogurt. I can get real detox from doing that, too. I rotate all these things so that the bugs I am killing don't get resistant. Also, pantethine and calcium AEP are both really good when used together. Cal AEP kills candida *biofilm* and when taken with pantethine, the combohelps the lymphatic system to work more efficiently so you eliminate thedie-off quicker. I also like molybdenum (1 drop in my water/day or every other), as it helps my liver detox better. Hope this helps, Diane --- On Sat, 10/31/09, alstrup <[hidden email]> wrote: From: alstrup <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: CELLFOOD from NuScience To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 8:22 PM PS. I was doing some research about Chinese Star Anise and Oil of Oregano. Had forgot all about Star Anise and the connection with Tamiflu. Anyone here with experience of these? http://fightinfluen zanaturally. blogspot. com/2009/ 10/star-anise. html http://fightinfluen zanaturally. blogspot. com/2009/ 10/oil-of- oregano.html Thanks, Ole --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "alstrup" <alstrup@... > wrote: > > Hi Marc, > > Thanks so much for the further info, greatly appreciated. One thing I would really like to know more about how CELLFOOD can fight viruses. What are your experiences? As you know, I am recovering - but still suffering - fromadrenal fatigue and my immune system is weakened, because my adrenal glands are not making enough cortisol. This means that I am very suceptible to viruses and infections and normal immune tonics doesnt help to modulate immune response because of lacking cortisol that is the key switch for the immune system. Last November when I had been on the Wilson protocol including the adrenal gland extracts for 3 months, I got 3 infections in a row during the flu season and was a zombie for two months straight. This year I am on colloidal silver as a daily prevention and GSE. While taking a short break from the CS and GSE (I got careless, that was stupid) my wife got contaminated with a flu last saturday and I got it as well (hope it was the H1N1) but were able to break it with high dosages of CS/GSE before it developed into general flu symptoms, after the initial two days, just as I thought it was over, we both developed a severe fatigue, which lasted for 4-5 days, so despite the CS/GSE, the virus we got had been able to affect our immune system. I am using Silver Biotics from American Biotech Labs and GSE from Nutribiotic. Do let me know if you have any other recommendations for stuff which will fight viruses directly. > > Thanks, > > Ole > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote: > > > > > Will see what I can find about Everett Storey, I already found some > > > information about deuterium sulfate and it looks very scamlike. > > > > I really like these deuterium sulfate products, although I will warn you > > that a lot of the backstory about them is fabricated. Basically, > > Deuterium Sulfate started use in the early 1950's as a "Reynolds > > Soil Conditioner" , invented by Lee Reynolds. It was publicized in the > > late 1950's by Everett Story (a magazine publisher) and eventually he > > began a company selling it as both a soil conditioner ("Open All") and a > > nutritional supplement ("Cellfood") . Although claimed to cure many > > illnesses, Everett Storey himself died of throat cancer in his > > early 70's. The company he started ("Deutrel Labs") got taken over by > > some other folks and is know known as "Deutrel Industries". They > > still manufacture CELLFOOD today, and began marketing it as nutritional > > supplement in the late 1990s, and Lumina Health took over US > > distribution in the early 2000s. > > > > The original Reynolds product is still sold as a soil conditioner > > and also as a competing nutritional supplement ("Cell Power"). > > > > CELLFOOD really has had a good impact on various aspects of my health > > (fighting viruses, increasing energy/stamina, reducing chemical sensitivities, > > reducing allergies), in spite of the questionable information you > > may find about it online. > > > > Here is a website created by someone who used to take care of > > Everett Storey in his final years, and also used to help in the > > manufacture of CELLFOOD in the 1980's: > > > > http://evstorey. com/ > > > > And here is the manufacturer' s website ("Nu Science = Deutrel Industries") : > > > > http://nuscience. com/ > > http://deutrel. com/ > > > > Marc > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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