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BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer

Inthepresent
Hi Everyone : ) I have really bad e.sens., with extreme agitation, feeling
overwhelmed and insomnia from the computer and telephone (cellular and regular).
I have found some help from Stetzer filters (house feels calmer, husband
and friends notice it too), Q-link pendant (small amount of help) and
grounding mat in car (less irritable).
I am thinking of adding either the Quantum Pro or the BioProtect Card to
this arsenal, because I am still get very sick from computer and phone.
Does anyone know how they would work with the Stetzer filters? Do they
do the same thing as the Stetzer filters?
Also want to add that I am taking some neurontin (prescription seizure
drug) for the e sens. which helps but is *very* fatiguing and also I run my
laptop on a battery. I find that not plugging the laptop into household current
is very helpful.
Thanks for any input! Stephanie


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Marc Martin
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> I am thinking of adding either the Quantum Pro

Note that the Quantum Pro may be overkill for working with the
computer/laptop. I get by using my computer at home using 1 Quantum
power strip, the Quantum Byte software (Windows), and a Springlife
OM pendant placed in front of the monitor. The Quantum Pro
isn't really the right device for tolerating the computer -- it's
more for tolerating a large building full of stuff, and overkill
for a single computer.

There may be some overlap in functionality between the Quantum items
and the Stetzerizer items, but people here have reported benefits
from using both in parallel.

Marc

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Andrew McAfee
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The Quantum Conditioner power strip does have a slot for the phone line
and does help some.
Sounds like you are doing what you need to do with the filters and
protection.
If you are confident that you have isolated the problem EMF areas of
the house including sleeping area, then energizing foods and exercise
help me the most in tolerating the rest.

Additional boosting of the immune system and strengthening your
tolerance sounds like the next step.

Raw Organic Colostrum, light weight lifting and yoga provide me the
quickest relief and strength.

There are so many products and so many directions to go from here to
your recovery.

Iodine supplements (Iodoral), DHEA (brain protection) have also had
short term marked results with me... Get some blood work done, heavy
metal work (hair) and see where you are.
I don't recommend heavy detoxing until your know your gut is good (no
leaky gut). Rebuild first with probiotics, glutamine, etc., then colon
cleanses, then liver and kidneys, then lymphatic, then brain...
More and more I believe my condition was brought on by toxins
reentering my system, brain, nerves, etc. so repairing and improving
the digestion and elimination systems is essential to me.
all my best to you,
Andrew


On Jun 9, 2006, at 5:07 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Hi Everyone : ) I have really bad e.sens., with extreme agitation,
> feeling
> overwhelmed and insomnia from the computer and telephone (cellular and
> regular).
> I have found some help from Stetzer filters (house feels calmer,
> husband
> and friends notice it too), Q-link pendant (small amount of help) and
> grounding mat in car (less irritable).
> I am thinking of adding either the Quantum Pro or the BioProtect
> Card to
> this arsenal, because I am still get very sick from computer and phone.
> Does anyone know how they would work with the Stetzer filters?
> Do they
> do the same thing as the Stetzer filters?
> Also want to add that I am taking some neurontin (prescription
> seizure
> drug) for the e sens. which helps but is *very* fatiguing and also I
> run my
> laptop on a battery. I find that not plugging the laptop into
> household current
> is very helpful.
> Thanks for any input! Stephanie
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

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quaixemen
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I use both myself. I have a quantum pro and it is turned up to the max. I also have 20 stetzer filters. I'll never unplug any of it. Never had any bad side effects. And I am a big believer in overkill.
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From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer


> I am thinking of adding either the Quantum Pro

Note that the Quantum Pro may be overkill for working with the
computer/laptop. I get by using my computer at home using 1 Quantum
power strip, the Quantum Byte software (Windows), and a Springlife
OM pendant placed in front of the monitor. The Quantum Pro
isn't really the right device for tolerating the computer -- it's
more for tolerating a large building full of stuff, and overkill
for a single computer.

There may be some overlap in functionality between the Quantum items
and the Stetzerizer items, but people here have reported benefits
from using both in parallel.

Marc





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Marc Martin
Administrator
> I use both myself. I have a quantum pro and it is turned up to the max. I also have 20 stetzer
> filters. I'll never unplug any of it. Never had any bad side effects. And I am a big believer
> in overkill.

"Overkill" was a poor choice of words on my part. The original question
was how to better tolerate using a computer. I've tried every possible
combination of dozens of EMF protection devices to better tolerate
using my computer, and the Quantum Pro was not part of the most effective
solution. Instead, a combination of much less expensive items were.

Of course, everyone is different -- it could be that using the Quantum Pro
*is* a better choice for someone else.

Marc

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sctdh
Has anyone use the Quantum Power Strip and what difference has it made. I can't afford the whole Stetzer package. The hi freq noise on my power strips is usually in the 100 range, often lower, sometimes in the 200s. The first day i meaured it was 1400 but i have never seen it over 300 since...a neighbor was doing something unusual probably.

Paul

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I use both myself. I have a quantum pro and it is turned up to the max. I also have 20 stetzer
> filters. I'll never unplug any of it. Never had any bad side effects. And I am a big believer
> in overkill.

"Overkill" was a poor choice of words on my part. The original question
was how to better tolerate using a computer. I've tried every possible
combination of dozens of EMF protection devices to better tolerate
using my computer, and the Quantum Pro was not part of the most effective
solution. Instead, a combination of much less expensive items were.

Of course, everyone is different -- it could be that using the Quantum Pro
*is* a better choice for someone else.

Marc





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bluebonnet
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Stephanie,

I spent hundreds of dollars on the phone problem with little success.  
What finally worked was increasing my distance from the receiver by
attaching a stethoscope to listen through. Cheap and works great,
although some people have trouble hearing me speak from that distance.  
I carry a second stethoscope in my car to use at public phones.

bluebonnet

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Marc Martin
Administrator
In reply to this post by sctdh
> Has anyone use the Quantum Power Strip and what difference has it made. I
> can't afford the whole Stetzer package. The hi freq noise on my power
> strips is usually in the 100 range, often lower, sometimes in the 200s.
> The first day i meaured it was 1400 but i have never seen it over 300
> since...a neighbor was doing something unusual probably.

Note that the Quantum power strips do not change the reading on the
Stetzerizer meters, so if you are looking to reduce your meter readings,
you'll have to use Stetzer filter for that.

However, some people do report similar improvements from the Quantum
power strips, regardless of what the meter says. So symptoms do
not necessarily correlate with the meter readings (as usual)

Marc

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Inthepresent
In reply to this post by Inthepresent
In a message dated 6/9/2006 2:30:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:
> I am thinking of adding either the Quantum Pro

Note that the Quantum Pro may be overkill for working with the
computer/laptop. I get by using my computer at home using 1 Quantum
power strip, the Quantum Byte software (Windows), and a Springlife
OM pendant placed in front of the monitor. The Quantum Pro
isn't really the right device for tolerating the computer -- it's
more for tolerating a large building full of stuff, and overkill
for a single computer.

There may be some overlap in functionality between the Quantum items
and the Stetzerizer items, but people here have reported benefits
from using both in parallel.

MarcThanks so much for this reply. I can't look at my email more than once a
week, so I'm sorry I'm so slow with thank yous and replys.
That's interesting about the quantum pro being overkill for a laptop
computer. Also, about the overlap between Quantum and Stetzer. I can tell
anyone, the Stetzer is "the real deal". It really does take high frequency noise
off your household wiring.
Unfortunately, though the stetzer helps, for me it's not enough.
I'll write more about what has helped me under that subject thread.
Thanks very much again! Stephanie


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Inthepresent
In reply to this post by Inthepresent
In a message dated 6/9/2006 6:49:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:
The Quantum Conditioner power strip does have a slot for the phone line
and does help some.

Thanks for that feedback!


Sounds like you are doing what you need to do with the filters and
protection.
If you are confident that you have isolated the problem EMF areas of
the house including sleeping area, then energizing foods and exercise
help me the most in tolerating the rest.

I do find exercise helpful.


Additional boosting of the immune system and strengthening your
tolerance sounds like the next step.

I have some kind of immune system problem, an imbalance. Can't tolerate
colostrum or lots of other supplements- hypersensitive to them, but I very
much appreciate your feedback on this.

My best to you too Andrew : ) Stephanie


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Inthepresent
In reply to this post by Inthepresent
In a message dated 6/10/2006 12:51:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:
I use both myself. I have a quantum pro and it is turned up to the max. I
also have 20 stetzer filters. I'll never unplug any of it. Never had any bad side
effects. And I am a big believer in overkill.Hi and thanks for the feedback.
I have about 16 stetzer filters plugged into our small townhouse.
Interesting that you are using the quantum pro too. I could try it and if it feels like
"too much" for me I can always return it. Thanks again : ) stephanie


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Marc Martin
Administrator
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> I can tell anyone, the Stetzer is "the real deal". It really
> does take high frequency noise off your household wiring.

I'm sure it does.

The question is -- how much of your ES symptoms are coming
from your household wiring, and how much are coming from
elsewhere?

Marc

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Inthepresent
In reply to this post by Inthepresent
In a message dated 6/15/2006 1:31:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:
> I can tell anyone, the Stetzer is "the real deal". It really
> does take high frequency noise off your household wiring.

I'm sure it does.

The question is -- how much of your ES symptoms are coming
from your household wiring, and how much are coming from
elsewhere? Good question Marc. How would one know though? I certainly still
have e sens even though the stetzer filters help. Stephanie


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Marc Martin
Administrator
> The question is -- how much of your ES symptoms are coming
> from your household wiring, and how much are coming from
> elsewhere? Good question Marc. How would one know though? I certainly
> still have e sens even though the stetzer filters help. Stephanie

I suppose that if the Stetzer filters solved 100% of your
problems, then you could state with some certainty that
you are reacting only to the frequencies in your household
wiring. If not, then you have to assume that you are also
reacting to things outside of your wiring -- electronic
equipment, wireless transmissions, etc. I would suspect that
most people here react to things beside their wiring.

Marc

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Inthepresent
In reply to this post by Inthepresent
In a message dated 6/22/2006 12:18:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:
I suppose that if the Stetzer filters solved 100% of your
problems, then you could state with some certainty that
you are reacting only to the frequencies in your household
wiring. If not, then you have to assume that you are also
reacting to things outside of your wiring -- electronic
equipment, wireless transmissions, etc. I would suspect that
most people here react to things beside their wiring.


Hi Marc. I think the stetzers only take high frequency noise off the wires.
that still leaves being in close proximity to emfs from computers,
telephones, etc. also if you're in an apartment or condo, you can have other people's
wireless signals coming into your apartment! and signals from cell phone
towers, etc. It's a tough problem! Stephanie


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charles-4
Here in Europe there are norms for the electricity mains.
from 1Hz - 1.25 kHz tehre is a Norm
from 150 kHz - 30 MHz there is a norm, but in theregion in between, there is
nothing.

So between 1.25 Khz and 150 kHz, a lot of *dirty power* is in the mains,
coming from your own transformes, halogen lights, and fro outside, small
factories, elevator motors braking in speed, other motors, etc.

For that purpose, the Stetzer filters are meant.
Frequencies above 150 kHz are not allowed, although present.

The main dirty sources are around 30 kHz.
But the Stetzer filters only work on sources which are in the mains.

The signals which are in space, like those of mobile phones, it does not
function there.

Be aware, that mobile phone signals contain also dirt and garbage.
High frequency signals like to *ride along* with other high frequencies.
Don't forget the radio and TV signals.
I found 30 kHz signals with UMTS or 3G signals, as well as with radar
signals (of about 10 GHz)
And all those signals are not in the mains but *in space.*

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus





----- Original Message -----
From: <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 21:32
Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer


> In a message dated 6/22/2006 12:18:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [hidden email] writes:
> I suppose that if the Stetzer filters solved 100% of your
> problems, then you could state with some certainty that
> you are reacting only to the frequencies in your household
> wiring. If not, then you have to assume that you are also
> reacting to things outside of your wiring -- electronic
> equipment, wireless transmissions, etc. I would suspect that
> most people here react to things beside their wiring.
>
>
> Hi Marc. I think the stetzers only take high frequency noise off the
> wires.
> that still leaves being in close proximity to emfs from computers,
> telephones, etc. also if you're in an apartment or condo, you can have
> other people's
> wireless signals coming into your apartment! and signals from cell phone
> towers, etc. It's a tough problem! Stephanie
>

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denom
Charles, you seem to know a lot about electricity and wiring. I was wondering if I might ask you a question. I have my computer pretty close to my bed as I live in small quarters and can't move things around much or get them far away from me. So I put in a light switch to turn off the outlet that controls the computer and all the other stuff around it. It cuts the power and keeps it away from my feet when I sleep. ( I used to wake up with aching calfs and determined it was the electricity near my feet). I'm wondering if any dirty emf can still accumulate through the neutral white wire as the light switch only interupts the flow of the hot black wire. Maybe a stupid question.
----- Original Message -----
From: charles
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer


Here in Europe there are norms for the electricity mains.
from 1Hz - 1.25 kHz tehre is a Norm
from 150 kHz - 30 MHz there is a norm, but in theregion in between, there is
nothing.

So between 1.25 Khz and 150 kHz, a lot of *dirty power* is in the mains,
coming from your own transformes, halogen lights, and fro outside, small
factories, elevator motors braking in speed, other motors, etc.

For that purpose, the Stetzer filters are meant.
Frequencies above 150 kHz are not allowed, although present.

The main dirty sources are around 30 kHz.
But the Stetzer filters only work on sources which are in the mains.

The signals which are in space, like those of mobile phones, it does not
function there.

Be aware, that mobile phone signals contain also dirt and garbage.
High frequency signals like to *ride along* with other high frequencies.
Don't forget the radio and TV signals.
I found 30 kHz signals with UMTS or 3G signals, as well as with radar
signals (of about 10 GHz)
And all those signals are not in the mains but *in space.*

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus

----- Original Message -----
From: <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 21:32
Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer

> In a message dated 6/22/2006 12:18:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [hidden email] writes:
> I suppose that if the Stetzer filters solved 100% of your
> problems, then you could state with some certainty that
> you are reacting only to the frequencies in your household
> wiring. If not, then you have to assume that you are also
> reacting to things outside of your wiring -- electronic
> equipment, wireless transmissions, etc. I would suspect that
> most people here react to things beside their wiring.
>
>
> Hi Marc. I think the stetzers only take high frequency noise off the
> wires.
> that still leaves being in close proximity to emfs from computers,
> telephones, etc. also if you're in an apartment or condo, you can have
> other people's
> wireless signals coming into your apartment! and signals from cell phone
> towers, etc. It's a tough problem! Stephanie
>






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charles-4
First of all, there are no stupid questions.
Only stupid answers.

I think that your problem is with this light switch.
In Germany they are selling automatic fuses, that turn off the line
completely, when no current is needed.
See: http://www.gigahertz-solutions.de/PRODUKTE/NETZABKOPPLER.HTM

If you use a switch, it is not certain, that both the poles are interrupted.
I prefer using a plug with a built-in switch, which disconnetcs both the
poles, both wires.
See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina112c.html
Ordinary switches disconnect only one pole, and you do not know whether the
phase or the neutral is interrupted.
When only one wire is disconnected, you may have an electrical field on your
installation.

Or pull all plugs at night.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus



----- Original Message -----
From: "denom" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 21:38
Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer


> Charles, you seem to know a lot about electricity and wiring. I was
> wondering if I might ask you a question. I have my computer pretty close
> to my bed as I live in small quarters and can't move things around much or
> get them far away from me. So I put in a light switch to turn off the
> outlet that controls the computer and all the other stuff around it. It
> cuts the power and keeps it away from my feet when I sleep. ( I used to
> wake up with aching calfs and determined it was the electricity near my
> feet). I'm wondering if any dirty emf can still accumulate through the
> neutral white wire as the light switch only interupts the flow of the hot
> black wire. Maybe a stupid question.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: charles
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer
>
>
> Here in Europe there are norms for the electricity mains.
> From 1Hz - 1.25 kHz tehre is a Norm
> From 150 kHz - 30 MHz there is a norm, but in theregion in between, there
> is
> nothing.
>
> So between 1.25 Khz and 150 kHz, a lot of *dirty power* is in the mains,
> coming from your own transformes, halogen lights, and fro outside, small
> factories, elevator motors braking in speed, other motors, etc.
>
> For that purpose, the Stetzer filters are meant.
> Frequencies above 150 kHz are not allowed, although present.
>
> The main dirty sources are around 30 kHz.
> But the Stetzer filters only work on sources which are in the mains.
>
> The signals which are in space, like those of mobile phones, it does not
> function there.
>
> Be aware, that mobile phone signals contain also dirt and garbage.
> High frequency signals like to *ride along* with other high frequencies.
> Don't forget the radio and TV signals.
> I found 30 kHz signals with UMTS or 3G signals, as well as with radar
> signals (of about 10 GHz)
> And all those signals are not in the mains but *in space.*
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton Antivirus
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 21:32
> Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer
>
> > In a message dated 6/22/2006 12:18:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > [hidden email] writes:
> > I suppose that if the Stetzer filters solved 100% of your
> > problems, then you could state with some certainty that
> > you are reacting only to the frequencies in your household
> > wiring. If not, then you have to assume that you are also
> > reacting to things outside of your wiring -- electronic
> > equipment, wireless transmissions, etc. I would suspect that
> > most people here react to things beside their wiring.
> >
> >
> > Hi Marc. I think the stetzers only take high frequency noise off the
> > wires.
> > that still leaves being in close proximity to emfs from computers,
> > telephones, etc. also if you're in an apartment or condo, you can have
> > other people's
> > wireless signals coming into your apartment! and signals from cell
> phone
> > towers, etc. It's a tough problem! Stephanie
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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denom
Thank you for your reply. I do not know much about this stuff. I'm wondering if anybody in America knows of a similar product that can be purchased here?
----- Original Message -----
From: charles
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer


First of all, there are no stupid questions.
Only stupid answers.

I think that your problem is with this light switch.
In Germany they are selling automatic fuses, that turn off the line
completely, when no current is needed.
See: http://www.gigahertz-solutions.de/PRODUKTE/NETZABKOPPLER.HTM

If you use a switch, it is not certain, that both the poles are interrupted.
I prefer using a plug with a built-in switch, which disconnetcs both the
poles, both wires.
See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina112c.html
Ordinary switches disconnect only one pole, and you do not know whether the
phase or the neutral is interrupted.
When only one wire is disconnected, you may have an electrical field on your
installation.

Or pull all plugs at night.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus

----- Original Message -----
From: "denom" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 21:38
Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer

> Charles, you seem to know a lot about electricity and wiring. I was
> wondering if I might ask you a question. I have my computer pretty close
> to my bed as I live in small quarters and can't move things around much or
> get them far away from me. So I put in a light switch to turn off the
> outlet that controls the computer and all the other stuff around it. It
> cuts the power and keeps it away from my feet when I sleep. ( I used to
> wake up with aching calfs and determined it was the electricity near my
> feet). I'm wondering if any dirty emf can still accumulate through the
> neutral white wire as the light switch only interupts the flow of the hot
> black wire. Maybe a stupid question.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: charles
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer
>
>
> Here in Europe there are norms for the electricity mains.
> From 1Hz - 1.25 kHz tehre is a Norm
> From 150 kHz - 30 MHz there is a norm, but in theregion in between, there
> is
> nothing.
>
> So between 1.25 Khz and 150 kHz, a lot of *dirty power* is in the mains,
> coming from your own transformes, halogen lights, and fro outside, small
> factories, elevator motors braking in speed, other motors, etc.
>
> For that purpose, the Stetzer filters are meant.
> Frequencies above 150 kHz are not allowed, although present.
>
> The main dirty sources are around 30 kHz.
> But the Stetzer filters only work on sources which are in the mains.
>
> The signals which are in space, like those of mobile phones, it does not
> function there.
>
> Be aware, that mobile phone signals contain also dirt and garbage.
> High frequency signals like to *ride along* with other high frequencies.
> Don't forget the radio and TV signals.
> I found 30 kHz signals with UMTS or 3G signals, as well as with radar
> signals (of about 10 GHz)
> And all those signals are not in the mains but *in space.*
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 21:32
> Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer
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> > In a message dated 6/22/2006 12:18:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> > I suppose that if the Stetzer filters solved 100% of your
> > problems, then you could state with some certainty that
> > you are reacting only to the frequencies in your household
> > wiring. If not, then you have to assume that you are also
> > reacting to things outside of your wiring -- electronic
> > equipment, wireless transmissions, etc. I would suspect that
> > most people here react to things beside their wiring.
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> > Hi Marc. I think the stetzers only take high frequency noise off the
> > wires.
> > that still leaves being in close proximity to emfs from computers,
> > telephones, etc. also if you're in an apartment or condo, you can have
> > other people's
> > wireless signals coming into your apartment! and signals from cell
> phone
> > towers, etc. It's a tough problem! Stephanie
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Re: BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer

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In America you may try http://www.enviratest.com/

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
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----- Original Message -----
From: "denom" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 01:08
Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer


> Thank you for your reply. I do not know much about this stuff. I'm
> wondering if anybody in America knows of a similar product that can be
> purchased here?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: charles
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 3:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer
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> First of all, there are no stupid questions.
> Only stupid answers.
>
> I think that your problem is with this light switch.
> In Germany they are selling automatic fuses, that turn off the line
> completely, when no current is needed.
> See: http://www.gigahertz-solutions.de/PRODUKTE/NETZABKOPPLER.HTM
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> If you use a switch, it is not certain, that both the poles are
> interrupted.
> I prefer using a plug with a built-in switch, which disconnetcs both the
> poles, both wires.
> See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina112c.html
> Ordinary switches disconnect only one pole, and you do not know whether
> the
> phase or the neutral is interrupted.
> When only one wire is disconnected, you may have an electrical field on
> your
> installation.
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> Or pull all plugs at night.
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> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
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