Well now,
I've had a look at the Mast Sanity website, and on the front page, there is an essay by Barrie Trower, theorizing on Electro Sensitivity. It's really quite interesting, and the end comment is a bit depressing, but I'm going to paste it here, and link to to it, in case they move it from the main page of the site. Found on: http://www.mastsanity.org/ Essay sections are in Italic, and my questions and comments in regular font. It is as follows: "The Safe Wireless Initiative recently published a questionnaire (www.safewireless.org <http://www.safewireless.org/> , 11.1.07 [see here <http://www.mastsanity.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=177\ &Itemid=90> ] ) of some 32 possible mental and physical conditions associated with electro-sensitivity. Ten years ago, I was investigating this phenomenon and decided to work backwards. I looked at all of these signs/symptoms and traced them back to a common place of origin (Flow charts are enclosed [see below]). One origin linking all of these ailments appears to be the hippocampus (which is also linked to the amygdalae and hypothalamus). Prof Rolf Dermietzel, Head of Neuroanatomy at the Ruhr University of Bochum, Germany, has published research `The Electrical Brain' (Scientific American Mind, 2 November 2006, p57)[i] <http://www.mastsanity.org/#_edn1> , showing a positive direct electrical current in our brains, which controls all other chemical currents. This current operates at the hippocampus. By the laws of physics, any positive charge(s) moving within a moving magnetic/electric filed will experience a force (usually sideways - Fleming's left/right hand rules). If this force is enough to disrupt the motion of this positive direct current, just a dozen protons thick, it could easily account for the knock-on effect of so many mental and physical complaints. Theoretically, this is possible but needs the experimentation from a neuroscientist in a laboratory. The big question is: Why do some people (electrosensitives) complain of symptoms almost immediately, whilst others may take months or years? I am leaving aside here the direct effect of electromagnetic radiation on all of the cells in the body, simultaneously changing cell potential, signal transduction, cell cycle timing, causing interference to the ATP double bond at the mitochondrial DNA sites, and I am concentrating on the brain, although eventually each will complement the other, in terms of symptoms. It is known that electrical currents are generated within the brain by the action of electromagnetic waves causing atomic vibration(s) within calcite crystals. Whilst all crystals follow the same atomic structure, they can vary enormously in size. Hence a current can also vary from different size crystals. My hypothesis is that electrosensitivity sufferers share a common crystal size. This may also be genetic; it is known that mothers and daughters can share electrosensitvity. An added complication to this scenario would be the feed-back loop of the hippocampus' granule cells - mossy fibres - inhibiting basket cells exceeding their critical charge, hence the hippocampus receives an abnormal charge and passes its working threshold. N.B. I have read this research but cannot find the name of its author to reference him/her. I have also enclosed a simple mathematics paper [see below] which I presented to mathematicians, showing how electromagnetic waves can interfere both, with generating opposing currents and inhibiting the ionic movement of protons, the normal status of our electrical functioning brains. It will be apparent at one stage that constructive interference is required, but with many mobile companies all using the same airwaves, this does seem feasible. Finally, I would also postulate that the `atomically heavy' pulses from these carrier microwaves cause resonance by the interference to the `wobbly' spin of the Carbon 13, Hydrogen and Phosphorus atoms. As each atom is `nudged' it will right itself, releasing the energy causing it to move involuntarily. This rhythmic process will exacerbate an already unbearable state of electrical confusion in the brain. If this essay is correct, electro-sensitivity will be almost (if not) instant. Untreatable. My flow chart links all of the 32 reported illnesses listed by the Safe Wireless Initiative to this mechanism. 18 November 2007 Barrie Trower " ----------------------------------------------------- End of Essay. Now, back to me. ;) So, here he says: "It is known that electrical currents are generated within the brain by the action of electromagnetic waves causing atomic vibration(s) within calcite crystals. Whilst all crystals follow the same atomic structure, they can vary enormously in size. Hence a current can also vary from different size crystals. My hypothesis is that electrosensitivity sufferers share a common crystal size. This may also be genetic; it is known that mothers and daughters can share electrosensitvity." Does this (theoretically) mean that all ES people are the way they are because the calcite crystals in their brains are the same size as one another and get disrupted simultaneously due to the consistency in size, therefore causing unwanted reactions? "An added complication to this scenario would be the feed-back loop of the hippocampus' granule cells - mossy fibres - inhibiting basket cells exceeding their critical charge, hence the hippocampus receives an abnormal charge and passes its working threshold." This part I don't quite understand. If anyone who knows what this man means could explain, that would be wonderful. All I really can fathom is that the hippocampus becomes overloaded, by...what, a return charge, or something? Help! And: "Finally, I would also postulate that the `atomically heavy' pulses from these carrier microwaves cause resonance by the interference to the `wobbly' spin of the Carbon 13, Hydrogen and Phosphorus atoms. As each atom is `nudged' it will right itself, releasing the energy causing it to move involuntarily. This rhythmic process will exacerbate an already unbearable state of electrical confusion in the brain." So, if this were the case, how do we negate this microwave based resonance, so that the energy which causes the Carbon, Hydrogen, and Phosphorous atoms to "wobble", from being involuntarily released? The last bit: "If this essay is correct, electro-sensitivity will be almost (if not) instant. Untreatable." BOOOOO! That's not what I want to hear on a Saturday morning! Huh? What? Untreatable? Oh, hellllll no! See, that's the depressing bit. Nobody who's afflicted with anything likes to hear anyone (even theoretically) say that they could be suffering from something un-treatable. What about people here who have been improving? It seems to take a lot of work in some cases, some avoidance, health rebuilding, supplementation, device using, detoxification protocols, etc., but I can't say that I've heard of NOBODY here improving - some have even claimed almost a full remission of their ES symptoms. So one thing about this essay, is that it seems to me, to fail to address the immune system, the nervous system's myelin sheath, or any inherent toxicity or damage due to previous buildup of, well, toxins, or stressful attitudes, etc. I'm looking for some comments, and if there's anyone who can understand some of the things Barrie is saying in this essay better than I can, and especially what you think of that last "untreatable" bit, which I'm really not keen on! What is the take of everyone here on that, and what's your take on my take on it? I respect Barrie Trower for his work in campaigning against TETRA, et al., but man...I've got to hear what some of you guys think! Let me know! Easy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
ITS FUNNY BUT I READ AN ARTICLE IN MY LOCAL PAPER YESTERDAY THAT CLAIMS
UNIVERSITY SCIENTISTS HAVE DISCOVERED A RECEPTOR IN THE EYE THAT IS VERY RECEPTIVE TO BLUE LIGHT AND LARGELY ASSIMULATED VIA AMAGDALA, BRAIN STEM AND HYPOCAMPUS, IS THERE A LINK HERE ? I WILL SEND THE ESSAY TO THESE SCIENTISITS. ALL I KNOW IS THAT I HAVE GONE TO WORK IN AN OFFICE 10M FROM THE BACK OF 2 SMALL (ORANGE NETWORK) ANTENNAE WORKING I7 HRS A DAY IN FRONT OF LCD SCREEN (OTHERWISE OFFICE IS GOOD) AND I NOW FIND MY SENSITIVITY INCREASING IN CERTAIN WORRYING WAYS, MEMORY BAD, EXCEMA RETURNING ON HAND THAT USES MOUSE (NOTE NEW MOUSE FIRE RETARDENTS ?) MY EYES ARE STINGING RIGHT NOW 1.2M AWAY FROM LAPTOP AS i AM WEARING METAL FRAMED GLASSES, INCREASED HEART PALPS, SEPTIC SPOTS ON FACE, GLANDS THROBBING UNDER ARMS, BEHIND LEFT EAR AND GROIN AND SO ON ALL UNDOUBTEDLY ATTRIBUTED TO EMF EXPOSURE, WHILE THE ADRENALINE IS GOING EVAN AT SUBTLE LEVELS AND I AM USING RESERVES I CAN DO IT GIVEN RECOUP TIME, BUT SLUMPS ARE HITTING ME IN THE QUIETER TIMES LATER !! PERHAPS IT CAN TAKE MORE THAN ONE LIFETIME TO SELL THE TRUTH ! PAUL UK [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi Paul,
yeah, if you can send the essay to them and get a response, please do post it up - and I'd say to get the hell out of that office, now! I don't know to where, but 17 HRs/day is a long time. I've been feeling effing rotten today, and just like I want to find a cave and hide in it. But if you can find a better spot, go, go, go! And if anyone else has thoughts, please, do tell. R. --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote: > > ITS FUNNY BUT I READ AN ARTICLE IN MY LOCAL PAPER YESTERDAY THAT CLAIMS > UNIVERSITY SCIENTISTS HAVE DISCOVERED A RECEPTOR IN THE EYE THAT IS VERY > RECEPTIVE TO BLUE LIGHT AND LARGELY ASSIMULATED VIA AMAGDALA, BRAIN STEM AND > HYPOCAMPUS, IS THERE A LINK HERE ? I WILL SEND THE ESSAY TO THESE SCIENTISITS. > > ALL I KNOW IS THAT I HAVE GONE TO WORK IN AN OFFICE 10M FROM THE BACK OF 2 > SMALL (ORANGE NETWORK) ANTENNAE WORKING I7 HRS A DAY IN FRONT OF LCD SCREEN > (OTHERWISE OFFICE IS GOOD) AND I NOW FIND MY SENSITIVITY INCREASING IN CERTAIN > WORRYING WAYS, MEMORY BAD, EXCEMA RETURNING ON HAND THAT USES MOUSE (NOTE NEW > MOUSE FIRE RETARDENTS ?) MY EYES ARE STINGING RIGHT NOW 1.2M AWAY FROM LAPTOP > AS i AM WEARING METAL FRAMED GLASSES, INCREASED HEART PALPS, SEPTIC SPOTS ON > FACE, GLANDS THROBBING UNDER ARMS, BEHIND LEFT EAR AND GROIN AND SO ON ALL > UNDOUBTEDLY ATTRIBUTED TO EMF EXPOSURE, WHILE THE ADRENALINE IS GOING EVAN AT > SUBTLE LEVELS AND I AM USING RESERVES I CAN DO IT GIVEN RECOUP TIME, BUT > SLUMPS ARE HITTING ME IN THE QUIETER TIMES LATER !! PERHAPS IT CAN TAKE MORE > THAN ONE LIFETIME TO SELL THE TRUTH ! > > PAUL UK > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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I think in many cases computer mice have enough RF to cause symptoms.
The only good solution I have seen, if you have access to a clean grounding rod, is to put a piece of shielding fabric over the mouse and ground it. If the ground wire is too long or too skinny it won't work as well. Probably put some other fabric over that so your skin isn't in contact. Conductive gloves might help too, (see LessEMF) but your skin could react to them too. On Dec 8, 2007 1:34 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote: > ITS FUNNY BUT I READ AN ARTICLE IN MY LOCAL PAPER YESTERDAY THAT CLAIMS > UNIVERSITY SCIENTISTS HAVE DISCOVERED A RECEPTOR IN THE EYE THAT IS VERY > RECEPTIVE TO BLUE LIGHT AND LARGELY ASSIMULATED VIA AMAGDALA, BRAIN STEM > AND > HYPOCAMPUS, IS THERE A LINK HERE ? I WILL SEND THE ESSAY TO THESE > SCIENTISITS. > > ALL I KNOW IS THAT I HAVE GONE TO WORK IN AN OFFICE 10M FROM THE BACK OF 2 > > SMALL (ORANGE NETWORK) ANTENNAE WORKING I7 HRS A DAY IN FRONT OF LCD > SCREEN > (OTHERWISE OFFICE IS GOOD) AND I NOW FIND MY SENSITIVITY INCREASING IN > CERTAIN > WORRYING WAYS, MEMORY BAD, EXCEMA RETURNING ON HAND THAT USES MOUSE (NOTE > NEW > MOUSE FIRE RETARDENTS ?) MY EYES ARE STINGING RIGHT NOW 1.2M AWAY FROM > LAPTOP > AS i AM WEARING METAL FRAMED GLASSES, INCREASED HEART PALPS, SEPTIC SPOTS > ON > FACE, GLANDS THROBBING UNDER ARMS, BEHIND LEFT EAR AND GROIN AND SO ON ALL > > UNDOUBTEDLY ATTRIBUTED TO EMF EXPOSURE, WHILE THE ADRENALINE IS GOING EVAN > AT > SUBTLE LEVELS AND I AM USING RESERVES I CAN DO IT GIVEN RECOUP TIME, BUT > SLUMPS ARE HITTING ME IN THE QUIETER TIMES LATER !! PERHAPS IT CAN TAKE > MORE > THAN ONE LIFETIME TO SELL THE TRUTH ! > > PAUL UK > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Untreatable eh?
In 1998 I was correctly diagnosed with a disease which is both deadly and incurable. I'm still here, and twice as bumptious. Untreatable merely means that he doesn't know what to do about it. I do. Basic is www.paleodiet.com; fat rules. We read that the diseases of the nervous system have something to do with electricity, which must have insulation, which is the myelin sheath, which is made of fat and stuff. Eat fat (Real fat!) and whatever else it takes to rebuild your body - this must be done in the right environment. Eschew poisons, including electromagnetic radiation. Etcetera and so forth. William --- In [hidden email], "rticleone" <rticleone@...> wrote: > > Well now, > > I've had a look at the Mast Sanity website, and on the front page, there > is an essay by Barrie Trower, theorizing on Electro Sensitivity. > > It's really quite interesting, and the end comment is a bit depressing, > but I'm going to paste it here, and link to to it, in case they move it > from the main page of the site. > > Found on: http://www.mastsanity.org/ > > I'm looking for some comments, and if there's anyone who can understand > some of the things Barrie is saying in this essay better than I can, and > especially what you think of that last "untreatable" bit, which I'm > really not keen on! What is the take of everyone here on that, and > what's your take on my take on it? > > I respect Barrie Trower for his work in campaigning against TETRA, et > al., but man...I've got to hear what some of you guys think! Let me > know! > |
There could be something to eating fat.
Case in point: One year prior to my collapse from electrosensitivity, I started preparing my own food (much less fat, more spinach). Prior to that, I was eating a relatively fatty diet that my girlfriend prepared. Lost 25 lbs. Other factors were involved; a vacant cubical accross from me at work became occupied. They also gave me, and everyon else, an NEC LCD monitor which was uncomfortable from first use. Then bang, after five years of coping with it, it all fell through overnight. Eli |
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