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evie15422
Yer quite welcome, Steph! 
 
Btw, when I got my mini-tramp, I could only jump on it about 10 jumps before retiring to a bed or sofa to lie down.  lol  Don't beat yourself up about it.  Just do what you can do.  I found when I wasstill ill, 5 to 10 jumps here and another 3 to 5 later....  they helped.  You should probably keep the tapping, slapping, and jumping to yourself, Steph!  lol  You could do it alone in your bedroom. My hubby and son were just glad to see me move, but I understand how extended family might not take it the same way.  lololol  (But then, my extended family is used to my uniqueness.  ;)  They are just glad I can now help out, as they need me.  Funny how needing someone can so affect your opinions of them! )

--- On Fri, 5/28/10, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 4:37 PM


 



Diane
 
Thanks a million for a brilliant post - and good to know that this advice comes from your energy medicine book - I will try of this what I can - the tapping - the slapping [will wait to see what the 3 thumps is] and the feet up the back of the sofa, and will have to have another go on my mini trampoline. When I first got it even when I just used it very gently it did my legs in and I put it in a cupboard and forgot about it - but if it could helpwith drainage from the problems I currently have then that would be a big help. Very worrying indeed to have this as others testify to on this thread. The self tapping, slapping and thumping in addition to my aversion to cell phones, wifi and most gadgetry will finally convince my family that I am mad as a hatter!!! LOLOL
 
Sorry to hear of family crises and problems with the renovation - hope things got sorted out there and thanks a milliion once again for this great info.
 
all the best
 
Steph
 
PS Yup! v confusing with the 2 Dianes!!
 
 
 

--- On Fri, 28/5/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 15:08

 

Hi Diane, Steph, and Everybody,
 
Sorry I have not been able to take part in the forum lately due to family issues, crises, and house remodeling.  ;)  I owe multiple people here multiple personal replies, not to mention some public posts addressed to me here, which I need to answer.  Arrrrgggh. 
 
However, in searching for a safer plaster bonding agent to use in my house (which I didn't find, btw), I ran onto a research study I had in my files on the lymphatic swelling issue.  The conclusion of the paper was this:
 
"Conclusions
The lymphatic circulation is important in health and disease but its functions are poorly understood and often overlooked. Clinicians need to be awareof lymphatic disorders, which have direct relevance to anaesthesia and intensive care medicine. It is likely that future research will uncover other functions for the lymphatic circulation."
 
http://bja.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/91/2/265
 
So, we should not feel bad if we don't know all the answers ourselves, apparently nobody does!  lololol  Anyway, the paper did enlighten me in one area:
 
"It has been shown that increased sympathetic activity gives rise to peripheral lymphoedema....."    This made sense to me since it is the sympathetic side of the autonomic nervous system which gives me, personally, such fits with ES.  (The bp plummeting, chills, anxiety....)
 
ANYWAY....  I have found tapping the lymph node which is bothersome isvery helpful in getting it to drain.  Tap slightly above it and tap your pulse points in your neck, wrists, and ankles.  Tap (or lightly slap)--I often slap, but not so hard as to redden my skin more than a few seconds.  Tapping and slapping should be done with 2 or 3 fingers, depending on how big your hands are.  I found this info in the "Energy Medicine" book I have recommended here frequently in the past.
 
I used to barely be able to walk, Steph, from groin swelling.  I thinkyou need to do more than just tap points for that problem.  The tapping works well for swollen nodes in the neck, ear area, arms, legs, tho.  For the groin, I would suggest "the 3 thumps" and mini-tramp jumping.  You might not be up to the tramp, tho, so put your feet over the back of the sofa or against a wall when you lay down.  You need to reallywalk or move to get the groin to drain.  I suspect that happens (groin swelling) when you do too much over a short time and then exhaustion setsin and you are again immobile.  Probably, the extra initial movement got your lymphs draining too fast, but then it is settling in the groin when you rest.  (I am guessing here from personal experience.)  OOOPS, I nearly forgot the "3 thumps"....  I will send that in another post, as I have a site I need to find which explains it.
 
Hope this has been helpful!  I hope to get back to my old messages over the weekend and next week.  I am sorry I could not keep up!  Btw, I am the OTHER....
 
Diane.  ;)
 

--- On Fri, 5/28/10, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 10:16 AM

 

Hi to everyone who has posted on this new symptoms thread.
 
It is amazing to me how timely this thread is because I have over the last 10 weeks or so been experiencing - on an on and off basis - painful lymph nodes in my groin which have me really really worried. At the risk of seeming like a total idiot I will confess to doing a google search which panickedme into thinking I had Lymphoma of some sort . I have ME and get swollen lymph nodes periodically with that - but mainly in the neck and armpit - never in the groin before in 8 years of having it. So I was trying to soothe myself and say its just ME [and prob ES too]. I also get occasional night sweats - also part of the Me picture- but haven't had one for months nowand also don't have the weight loss which is a symptom of lymphoma. i'm booked in to see the doc next week to get it checked out tho because swollen lymph nodes like this are not good, having said that I'm not sure how much a conventional doc is going to be able to do.
 
I have been trying dry skin brushing and 12 glasses of water but don't seemto be getting anywhere with that. The suggestions on this post were great and I have a couple of questions which maybe someone can answer. I like theidea of the Beta-13- Glucan - is it safe to take on a long term basis?? And how do you do lymphatic drainage treatments? can you DIY them or do you have to get someone to do manual LD???
 
Thanks to all for raising this - it is a  worrying symptom and my fears have been eased a little by what I have read here.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

--- On Thu, 27/5/10, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: S.T. <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 22:25

 

Hi Diane,
 
Sorry to hear about your latest issue. I am sure you are aware that there are many reasons for the lymph nodes to be enlarged. Root canals, teeth issues, thyroid issues,  mouth sores, bad throat,  detoxing blockages etc. It is also a common ES symptom. 
 
I would say this one is a pretty standard one for me.  The last ultrasound I had on March 25, revealed a lump abut 1/2 inch in one of the lymph nodes in my neck. I have a follow up ultra sound in 6 months. It could be that some bad cells escaped my thyroid while I still had it, and are now developing elsewhere. I agree with  Andrew who said that we all have cancer cells. I always think of my ES as a form of a chroniccancer because it is debilitating and it kills in the long run. Mightseem radical but it just makes me be more proactive.
 
 I follow a couple of cancer natural treatments. I love the Budwig therapy with cottage cheese and flax-oil. I do it every day. I also take something Beta-1 3-D Glucan which is supposed to be a very potent immune building and cancer killing tool. Both therapies are outlined in Bill Henderson's Cancer Free book. The wisdom in  that book is tremendous. Cancer or not,  a great read, for yourself and your family. To cut a long story short, I will evaluate the treatment after a six month period. Hopefullyby then whatever is is in my neck will BE GONE. Fingers crossed.
 
Oh yeah, I survived 11 foot baths or foot spas treatments within the last three months. I could only do 1 per week as I was sure I was dying after thefirst one....I was so weak, could not get out of bed for three days. My body was inflamed and kind of burning all over, I had  a strange metal taste in my mouth, sore throat, painful joints etc.  I persisted and now they seem to make me tired only on the day of the treatment. I will do another 10 sessions as Charles suggested, it is definitely helping...Also my neck nodes got really painful when I started these baths and I did two lymphatic drainage treatments and it calmed down..Good luck!
 
 
 
--- On Thu, 5/27/10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
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Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:08 PM

 

Hi Diane,

I have the same thing - but it is the lymph nodes under my arms that swell at times and then no problem at all for long periods. Sorry you are feelingworse. Hope that changes soon.

Cheryl

--- On Thu, 5/27/10, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 1:03 PM

 

I've never had a health issue with them. It is odd, though. I feel around and under my neck and its swollen and then 2 days later its flat again.

--- On Thu, 5/27/10, MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms

> To: [hidden email]

> Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:39 AM

> I hope they do go away because

> honestly- I'm terrified.

>

> Diane

>

>

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> To: [hidden email]

> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:52:33 AM

> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms

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> I get that all the time, it's really annoying. They go away

> then come back.

> Steve

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> > Subject: [eSens] New Symptoms

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> > Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 11:42 AM

> > Hi Everyone

> >

> > As of a few weeks back I have

> > been experiencing a new symptom- a swollen lymph node

> in my

> > neck. That entire

> > side of my neck now aches . I've been to the doctor

> but as

> > the lump is

> > tiny he is advising that we monitor it closely as its

> too

> > small for

> > surgery. Has anyone else experienced this? Just when I

> seem

> > to be

> > showing signs of improvement (changed careers, ears

> no

> > longer ringing,

> > face not burning as frequently) this happens. Its

> very

> > disheartening.

> >

> > Diane

> >

> >

> >       

> >

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> > Yahoo! Groups Links

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Hi Steph, was wondering how you were going.
 
Ada
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Date: Saturday, 29 May, 2010, 6:37


 



Diane
 
Thanks a million for a brilliant post - and good to know that this advice comes from your energy medicine book - I will try of this what I can - the tapping - the slapping [will wait to see what the 3 thumps is] and the feet up the back of the sofa, and will have to have another go on my mini trampoline. When I first got it even when I just used it very gently it did my legs in and I put it in a cupboard and forgot about it - but if it could helpwith drainage from the problems I currently have then that would be a big help. Very worrying indeed to have this as others testify to on this thread. The self tapping, slapping and thumping in addition to my aversion to cell phones, wifi and most gadgetry will finally convince my family that I am mad as a hatter!!! LOLOL
 
Sorry to hear of family crises and problems with the renovation - hope things got sorted out there and thanks a milliion once again for this great info.
 
all the best
 
Steph
 
PS Yup! v confusing with the 2 Dianes!!
 
 
 

--- On Fri, 28/5/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 15:08

 

Hi Diane, Steph, and Everybody,
 
Sorry I have not been able to take part in the forum lately due to family issues, crises, and house remodeling.  ;)  I owe multiple people here multiple personal replies, not to mention some public posts addressed to me here, which I need to answer.  Arrrrgggh. 
 
However, in searching for a safer plaster bonding agent to use in my house (which I didn't find, btw), I ran onto a research study I had in my files on the lymphatic swelling issue.  The conclusion of the paper was this:
 
"Conclusions
The lymphatic circulation is important in health and disease but its functions are poorly understood and often overlooked. Clinicians need to be awareof lymphatic disorders, which have direct relevance to anaesthesia and intensive care medicine. It is likely that future research will uncover other functions for the lymphatic circulation."
 
http://bja.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/91/2/265
 
So, we should not feel bad if we don't know all the answers ourselves, apparently nobody does!  lololol  Anyway, the paper did enlighten me in one area:
 
"It has been shown that increased sympathetic activity gives rise to peripheral lymphoedema....."    This made sense to me since it is the sympathetic side of the autonomic nervous system which gives me, personally, such fits with ES.  (The bp plummeting, chills, anxiety....)
 
ANYWAY....  I have found tapping the lymph node which is bothersome isvery helpful in getting it to drain.  Tap slightly above it and tap your pulse points in your neck, wrists, and ankles.  Tap (or lightly slap)--I often slap, but not so hard as to redden my skin more than a few seconds.  Tapping and slapping should be done with 2 or 3 fingers, depending on how big your hands are.  I found this info in the "Energy Medicine" book I have recommended here frequently in the past.
 
I used to barely be able to walk, Steph, from groin swelling.  I thinkyou need to do more than just tap points for that problem.  The tapping works well for swollen nodes in the neck, ear area, arms, legs, tho.  For the groin, I would suggest "the 3 thumps" and mini-tramp jumping.  You might not be up to the tramp, tho, so put your feet over the back of the sofa or against a wall when you lay down.  You need to reallywalk or move to get the groin to drain.  I suspect that happens (groin swelling) when you do too much over a short time and then exhaustion setsin and you are again immobile.  Probably, the extra initial movement got your lymphs draining too fast, but then it is settling in the groin when you rest.  (I am guessing here from personal experience.)  OOOPS, I nearly forgot the "3 thumps"....  I will send that in another post, as I have a site I need to find which explains it.
 
Hope this has been helpful!  I hope to get back to my old messages over the weekend and next week.  I am sorry I could not keep up!  Btw, I am the OTHER....
 
Diane.  ;)
 

--- On Fri, 5/28/10, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 10:16 AM

 

Hi to everyone who has posted on this new symptoms thread.
 
It is amazing to me how timely this thread is because I have over the last 10 weeks or so been experiencing - on an on and off basis - painful lymph nodes in my groin which have me really really worried. At the risk of seeming like a total idiot I will confess to doing a google search which panickedme into thinking I had Lymphoma of some sort . I have ME and get swollen lymph nodes periodically with that - but mainly in the neck and armpit - never in the groin before in 8 years of having it. So I was trying to soothe myself and say its just ME [and prob ES too]. I also get occasional night sweats - also part of the Me picture- but haven't had one for months nowand also don't have the weight loss which is a symptom of lymphoma. i'm booked in to see the doc next week to get it checked out tho because swollen lymph nodes like this are not good, having said that I'm not sure how much a conventional doc is going to be able to do.
 
I have been trying dry skin brushing and 12 glasses of water but don't seemto be getting anywhere with that. The suggestions on this post were great and I have a couple of questions which maybe someone can answer. I like theidea of the Beta-13- Glucan - is it safe to take on a long term basis?? And how do you do lymphatic drainage treatments? can you DIY them or do you have to get someone to do manual LD???
 
Thanks to all for raising this - it is a  worrying symptom and my fears have been eased a little by what I have read here.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

--- On Thu, 27/5/10, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: S.T. <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 22:25

 

Hi Diane,
 
Sorry to hear about your latest issue. I am sure you are aware that there are many reasons for the lymph nodes to be enlarged. Root canals, teeth issues, thyroid issues,  mouth sores, bad throat,  detoxing blockages etc. It is also a common ES symptom. 
 
I would say this one is a pretty standard one for me.  The last ultrasound I had on March 25, revealed a lump abut 1/2 inch in one of the lymph nodes in my neck. I have a follow up ultra sound in 6 months. It could be that some bad cells escaped my thyroid while I still had it, and are now developing elsewhere. I agree with  Andrew who said that we all have cancer cells. I always think of my ES as a form of a chroniccancer because it is debilitating and it kills in the long run. Mightseem radical but it just makes me be more proactive.
 
 I follow a couple of cancer natural treatments. I love the Budwig therapy with cottage cheese and flax-oil. I do it every day. I also take something Beta-1 3-D Glucan which is supposed to be a very potent immune building and cancer killing tool. Both therapies are outlined in Bill Henderson's Cancer Free book. The wisdom in  that book is tremendous. Cancer or not,  a great read, for yourself and your family. To cut a long story short, I will evaluate the treatment after a six month period. Hopefullyby then whatever is is in my neck will BE GONE. Fingers crossed.
 
Oh yeah, I survived 11 foot baths or foot spas treatments within the last three months. I could only do 1 per week as I was sure I was dying after thefirst one....I was so weak, could not get out of bed for three days. My body was inflamed and kind of burning all over, I had  a strange metal taste in my mouth, sore throat, painful joints etc.  I persisted and now they seem to make me tired only on the day of the treatment. I will do another 10 sessions as Charles suggested, it is definitely helping...Also my neck nodes got really painful when I started these baths and I did two lymphatic drainage treatments and it calmed down..Good luck!
 
 
 
--- On Thu, 5/27/10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:08 PM

 

Hi Diane,

I have the same thing - but it is the lymph nodes under my arms that swell at times and then no problem at all for long periods. Sorry you are feelingworse. Hope that changes soon.

Cheryl

--- On Thu, 5/27/10, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 1:03 PM

 

I've never had a health issue with them. It is odd, though. I feel around and under my neck and its swollen and then 2 days later its flat again.

--- On Thu, 5/27/10, MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms

> To: [hidden email]

> Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:39 AM

> I hope they do go away because

> honestly- I'm terrified.

>

> Diane

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Steve G <[hidden email]>

> To: [hidden email]

> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:52:33 AM

> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms

>

>  

> I get that all the time, it's really annoying. They go away

> then come back.

> Steve

>

> --- On Tue, 5/25/10, MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> wrote:

>

> > From: MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> > Subject: [eSens] New Symptoms

> > To: [hidden email]

> > Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 11:42 AM

> > Hi Everyone

> >

> > As of a few weeks back I have

> > been experiencing a new symptom- a swollen lymph node

> in my

> > neck. That entire

> > side of my neck now aches . I've been to the doctor

> but as

> > the lump is

> > tiny he is advising that we monitor it closely as its

> too

> > small for

> > surgery. Has anyone else experienced this? Just when I

> seem

> > to be

> > showing signs of improvement (changed careers, ears

> no

> > longer ringing,

> > face not burning as frequently) this happens. Its

> very

> > disheartening.

> >

> > Diane

> >

> >

> >       

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

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> > Yahoo! Groups Links

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>     [hidden email]

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I have swollen lymphs occasionally when my mono wants to start flaring up again! If they are in my throat I usually take some Kelp to help the swollen glands.
Kris





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S.T.
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Hi Steph,
 
The way that Bill Henderson explained Beta Glucan dosage in his book is basically 1 pill per 23 KG of weight for the first 3 months and then one a day after that as a maintenance. Mind you,  Bill is convinced by his research that Beta-1, 3D Glucan by Transfer Point  successfully kills cancer cells. Of course I am as sceptical but upon some further research I was curious enough to give it a shot.  I will  know if it did anything when I go for my  ultrasound in September.
 
Sandra
 

--- On Fri, 5/28/10, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 7:16 AM


 



Hi to everyone who has posted on this new symptoms thread.
 
It is amazing to me how timely this thread is because I have over the last 10 weeks or so been experiencing - on an on and off basis - painful lymph nodes in my groin which have me really really worried. At the risk of seeming like a total idiot I will confess to doing a google search which panickedme into thinking I had Lymphoma of some sort . I have ME and get swollen lymph nodes periodically with that - but mainly in the neck and armpit - never in the groin before in 8 years of having it. So I was trying to soothe myself and say its just ME [and prob ES too]. I also get occasional night sweats - also part of the Me picture- but haven't had one for months nowand also don't have the weight loss which is a symptom of lymphoma. i'm booked in to see the doc next week to get it checked out tho because swollen lymph nodes like this are not good, having said that I'm not sure how much a conventional doc is going to be able to do.
 
I have been trying dry skin brushing and 12 glasses of water but don't seemto be getting anywhere with that. The suggestions on this post were great and I have a couple of questions which maybe someone can answer. I like theidea of the Beta-13- Glucan - is it safe to take on a long term basis?? And how do you do lymphatic drainage treatments? can you DIY them or do you have to get someone to do manual LD???
 
Thanks to all for raising this - it is a  worrying symptom and my fears have been eased a little by what I have read here.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

--- On Thu, 27/5/10, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: S.T. <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 22:25

 

Hi Diane,
 
Sorry to hear about your latest issue. I am sure you are aware that there are many reasons for the lymph nodes to be enlarged. Root canals, teeth issues, thyroid issues,  mouth sores, bad throat,  detoxing blockages etc. It is also a common ES symptom. 
 
I would say this one is a pretty standard one for me.  The last ultrasound I had on March 25, revealed a lump abut 1/2 inch in one of the lymph nodes in my neck. I have a follow up ultra sound in 6 months. It could be that some bad cells escaped my thyroid while I still had it, and are now developing elsewhere. I agree with  Andrew who said that we all have cancer cells. I always think of my ES as a form of a chroniccancer because it is debilitating and it kills in the long run. Mightseem radical but it just makes me be more proactive.
 
 I follow a couple of cancer natural treatments. I love the Budwig therapy with cottage cheese and flax-oil. I do it every day. I also take something Beta-1 3-D Glucan which is supposed to be a very potent immune building and cancer killing tool. Both therapies are outlined in Bill Henderson's Cancer Free book. The wisdom in  that book is tremendous. Cancer or not,  a great read, for yourself and your family. To cut a long story short, I will evaluate the treatment after a six month period. Hopefullyby then whatever is is in my neck will BE GONE. Fingers crossed.
 
Oh yeah, I survived 11 foot baths or foot spas treatments within the last three months. I could only do 1 per week as I was sure I was dying after thefirst one....I was so weak, could not get out of bed for three days. My body was inflamed and kind of burning all over, I had  a strange metal taste in my mouth, sore throat, painful joints etc.  I persisted and now they seem to make me tired only on the day of the treatment. I will do another 10 sessions as Charles suggested, it is definitely helping...Also my neck nodes got really painful when I started these baths and I did two lymphatic drainage treatments and it calmed down..Good luck!
 
 
 
--- On Thu, 5/27/10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:08 PM

 

Hi Diane,

I have the same thing - but it is the lymph nodes under my arms that swell at times and then no problem at all for long periods. Sorry you are feelingworse. Hope that changes soon.

Cheryl

--- On Thu, 5/27/10, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 1:03 PM

 

I've never had a health issue with them. It is odd, though. I feel around and under my neck and its swollen and then 2 days later its flat again.

--- On Thu, 5/27/10, MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms

> To: [hidden email]

> Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:39 AM

> I hope they do go away because

> honestly- I'm terrified.

>

> Diane

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Steve G <[hidden email]>

> To: [hidden email]

> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:52:33 AM

> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms

>

>  

> I get that all the time, it's really annoying. They go away

> then come back.

> Steve

>

> --- On Tue, 5/25/10, MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> wrote:

>

> > From: MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> > Subject: [eSens] New Symptoms

> > To: [hidden email]

> > Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 11:42 AM

> > Hi Everyone

> >

> > As of a few weeks back I have

> > been experiencing a new symptom- a swollen lymph node

> in my

> > neck. That entire

> > side of my neck now aches . I've been to the doctor

> but as

> > the lump is

> > tiny he is advising that we monitor it closely as its

> too

> > small for

> > surgery. Has anyone else experienced this? Just when I

> seem

> > to be

> > showing signs of improvement (changed careers, ears

> no

> > longer ringing,

> > face not burning as frequently) this happens. Its

> very

> > disheartening.

> >

> > Diane

> >

> >

> >       

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >     [hidden email]

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>      

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: New Symptoms

stephen_vandevijvere
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Hi Steph,

I've done EFT 3 years ago when I had symptoms of my concussion (migraine,...) and it really helped.

I'm not sure whether it's always a good thing to do EFT, but it seems a help for a lot of people, and I haven't read any bad side effects from EFT...

For some problems it works faster than for others,

I think the more emotionally-linked your problem is, the faster you benefitfrom it...

For instance if you are afraid of speaking in public, I think you benefit from EFT quite fast,

If your problem is more physical and less emotional, it'll probably take more time to improve. Some people say every problem is also partially emotional, so every problem should benefit from EFT? I'm not sure on this...

Stephen.




--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Diane
>  
> Dr Mercola mentions EFT every chance he gets - I tried it for a bit but didn't get anything from it - maybe I didn't work at it enough or give it enough of a chance. I will try the 3 thumps and have a go at the other stuff - it can only work!
>  
> Thanks for posting the links to this.
>  
> Best wishes
>  
> Steph
>  
>
>
> --- On Fri, 28/5/10, Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Evie <evie15422@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 15:22
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> This is the site for the 3 thumps, etc.  I do all of the exercises listed, not just the thumps.  I just notice alot from the thumps. The tapping is explained at the 2nd site and also I forgot to mention tapping the top of the head...
>  
> http://www.feelingfree.net/batteryproblems/batterycharge.htm
>  
> http://www.feelingfree.net/batteryproblems/meridian.htm
>
> (the other) Diane  ;)
>
> --- On Fri, 5/28/10, Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:
>
> From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 10:16 AM
>
>  
>
> Hi to everyone who has posted on this new symptoms thread.
>  
> It is amazing to me how timely this thread is because I have over the last 10 weeks or so been experiencing - on an on and off basis - painful lymphnodes in my groin which have me really really worried. At the risk of seeming like a total idiot I will confess to doing a google search which panicked me into thinking I had Lymphoma of some sort . I have ME and get swollenlymph nodes periodically with that - but mainly in the neck and armpit - never in the groin before in 8 years of having it. So I was trying to soothemyself and say its just ME [and prob ES too]. I also get occasional night sweats - also part of the Me picture- but haven't had one for months now and also don't have the weight loss which is a symptom of lymphoma. i'm booked in to see the doc next week to get it checked out tho because swollen lymph nodes like this are not good, having said that I'm not sure how much a conventional doc is going to be able to do.
>  
> I have been trying dry skin brushing and 12 glasses of water but don't seem to be getting anywhere with that. The suggestions on this post were great and I have a couple of questions which maybe someone can answer. I like the idea of the Beta-13- Glucan - is it safe to take on a long term basis?? And how do you do lymphatic drainage treatments? can you DIY them or do youhave to get someone to do manual LD???
>  
> Thanks to all for raising this - it is a  worrying symptom and my fears have been eased a little by what I have read here.
>  
> Best wishes
>  
> Steph
>
> --- On Thu, 27/5/10, S.T. <stcro@...> wrote:
>
> From: S.T. <stcro@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 22:25
>
>  
>
> Hi Diane,
>  
> Sorry to hear about your latest issue. I am sure you are aware that thereare many reasons for the lymph nodes to be enlarged. Root canals, teeth issues, thyroid issues,  mouth sores, bad throat,  detoxing blockages etc. It is also a common ES symptom. 
>  
> I would say this one is a pretty standard one for me.  Thelast ultrasound I had on March 25, revealed a lump abut 1/2 inch in one ofthe lymph nodes in my neck. I have a follow up ultra sound in 6 months. Itcould be that some bad cells escaped my thyroid while I still had it, and are now developing elsewhere. I agree with  Andrew who said that we all have cancer cells. I always think of my ES as a form of a chronic cancer because it is debilitating and it kills in the long run. Might seem radical but it just makes me be more proactive.
>  
>  I follow a couple of cancer natural treatments. I love the Budwig therapy with cottage cheese and flax-oil. I do it every day. I also take something Beta-1 3-D Glucan which is supposed to be a very potent immune building and cancer killing tool. Both therapies are outlined in Bill Henderson's Cancer Free book. The wisdom in  that book is tremendous. Cancer or not,  a great read, for yourself and your family. To cut a long story short, I will evaluate the treatment after a six month period. Hopefully by then whatever is is in my neck will BE GONE. Fingers crossed.
>  
> Oh yeah, I survived 11 foot baths or foot spas treatments within the lastthree months. I could only do 1 per week as I was sure I was dying after the first one....I was so weak, could not get out of bed for three days. My body was inflamed and kind of burning all over, I had  a strange metal taste in my mouth, sore throat, painful joints etc.  I persisted and now they seem to make me tired only on the day of the treatment. I will do another 10 sessions as Charles suggested, it is definitely helping...Also my neck nodes got really painful when I started these baths and I did two lymphatic drainage treatments and it calmed down..Good luck!
>  
>  
>  
> --- On Thu, 5/27/10, Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@...> wrote:
>
> From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:08 PM
>
>  
>
> Hi Diane,
>
> I have the same thing - but it is the lymph nodes under my arms that swell at times and then no problem at all for long periods. Sorry you are feeling worse. Hope that changes soon.
>
> Cheryl
>
> --- On Thu, 5/27/10, Steve G <torch369@...> wrote:
>
> From: Steve G <torch369@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 1:03 PM
>
>  
>
> I've never had a health issue with them. It is odd, though. I feel aroundand under my neck and its swollen and then 2 days later its flat again.
>
> --- On Thu, 5/27/10, MJQ 7688 <mjq7688@...> wrote:
>
> > From: MJQ 7688 <mjq7688@...>
>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
>
> > To: [hidden email]
>
> > Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:39 AM
>
> > I hope they do go away because
>
> > honestly- I'm terrified.
>
> >
>
> > Diane
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ________________________________
>
> > From: Steve G <torch369@...>
>
> > To: [hidden email]
>
> > Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:52:33 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
>
> >
>
> >  
>
> > I get that all the time, it's really annoying. They go away
>
> > then come back.
>
> > Steve
>
> >
>
> > --- On Tue, 5/25/10, MJQ 7688 <mjq7688@...>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > From: MJQ 7688 <mjq7688@...>
>
> > > Subject: [eSens] New Symptoms
>
> > > To: [hidden email]
>
> > > Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 11:42 AM
>
> > > Hi Everyone
>
> > >
>
> > > As of a few weeks back I have
>
> > > been experiencing a new symptom- a swollen lymph node
>
> > in my
>
> > > neck. That entire
>
> > > side of my neck now aches . I've been to the doctor
>
> > but as
>
> > > the lump is
>
> > > tiny he is advising that we monitor it closely as its
>
> > too
>
> > > small for
>
> > > surgery. Has anyone else experienced this? Just when I
>
> > seem
>
> > > to be
>
> > > showing signs of improvement (changed careers, ears
>
> > no
>
> > > longer ringing,
>
> > > face not burning as frequently) this happens. Its
>
> > very
>
> > > disheartening.
>
> > >
>
> > > Diane
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >       
>
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Re: New Symptoms

Steph Smith
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Hi Sandra
 
Thanks for the info about Beta 13 D Glucan - keep us posted after you get the results of the ultrasound - hope that gives a good and positive result for you.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

--- On Sat, 29/5/10, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: S.T. <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, 29 May, 2010, 12:23


 



Hi Steph,
 
The way that Bill Henderson explained Beta Glucan dosage in his book is basically 1 pill per 23 KG of weight for the first 3 months and then one a day after that as a maintenance. Mind you,  Bill is convinced by his research that Beta-1, 3D Glucan by Transfer Point  successfully kills cancer cells. Of course I am as sceptical but upon some further research I was curious enough to give it a shot.  I will  know if it did anything when I go for my  ultrasound in September.
 
Sandra
 

--- On Fri, 5/28/10, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 7:16 AM

 

Hi to everyone who has posted on this new symptoms thread.
 
It is amazing to me how timely this thread is because I have over the last 10 weeks or so been experiencing - on an on and off basis - painful lymph nodes in my groin which have me really really worried. At the risk of seeming like a total idiot I will confess to doing a google search which panickedme into thinking I had Lymphoma of some sort . I have ME and get swollen lymph nodes periodically with that - but mainly in the neck and armpit - never in the groin before in 8 years of having it. So I was trying to soothe myself and say its just ME [and prob ES too]. I also get occasional night sweats - also part of the Me picture- but haven't had one for months nowand also don't have the weight loss which is a symptom of lymphoma. i'm booked in to see the doc next week to get it checked out tho because swollen lymph nodes like this are not good, having said that I'm not sure how much a conventional doc is going to be able to do.
 
I have been trying dry skin brushing and 12 glasses of water but don't seemto be getting anywhere with that. The suggestions on this post were great and I have a couple of questions which maybe someone can answer. I like theidea of the Beta-13- Glucan - is it safe to take on a long term basis?? And how do you do lymphatic drainage treatments? can you DIY them or do you have to get someone to do manual LD???
 
Thanks to all for raising this - it is a  worrying symptom and my fears have been eased a little by what I have read here.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

--- On Thu, 27/5/10, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: S.T. <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 22:25

 

Hi Diane,
 
Sorry to hear about your latest issue. I am sure you are aware that there are many reasons for the lymph nodes to be enlarged. Root canals, teeth issues, thyroid issues,  mouth sores, bad throat,  detoxing blockages etc. It is also a common ES symptom. 
 
I would say this one is a pretty standard one for me.  The last ultrasound I had on March 25, revealed a lump abut 1/2 inch in one of the lymph nodes in my neck. I have a follow up ultra sound in 6 months. It could be that some bad cells escaped my thyroid while I still had it, and are now developing elsewhere. I agree with  Andrew who said that we all have cancer cells. I always think of my ES as a form of a chroniccancer because it is debilitating and it kills in the long run. Mightseem radical but it just makes me be more proactive.
 
 I follow a couple of cancer natural treatments. I love the Budwig therapy with cottage cheese and flax-oil. I do it every day. I also take something Beta-1 3-D Glucan which is supposed to be a very potent immune building and cancer killing tool. Both therapies are outlined in Bill Henderson's Cancer Free book. The wisdom in  that book is tremendous. Cancer or not,  a great read, for yourself and your family. To cut a long story short, I will evaluate the treatment after a six month period. Hopefullyby then whatever is is in my neck will BE GONE. Fingers crossed.
 
Oh yeah, I survived 11 foot baths or foot spas treatments within the last three months. I could only do 1 per week as I was sure I was dying after thefirst one....I was so weak, could not get out of bed for three days. My body was inflamed and kind of burning all over, I had  a strange metal taste in my mouth, sore throat, painful joints etc.  I persisted and now they seem to make me tired only on the day of the treatment. I will do another 10 sessions as Charles suggested, it is definitely helping...Also my neck nodes got really painful when I started these baths and I did two lymphatic drainage treatments and it calmed down..Good luck!
 
 
 
--- On Thu, 5/27/10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:08 PM

 

Hi Diane,

I have the same thing - but it is the lymph nodes under my arms that swell at times and then no problem at all for long periods. Sorry you are feelingworse. Hope that changes soon.

Cheryl

--- On Thu, 5/27/10, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 1:03 PM

 

I've never had a health issue with them. It is odd, though. I feel around and under my neck and its swollen and then 2 days later its flat again.

--- On Thu, 5/27/10, MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms

> To: [hidden email]

> Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:39 AM

> I hope they do go away because

> honestly- I'm terrified.

>

> Diane

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Steve G <[hidden email]>

> To: [hidden email]

> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:52:33 AM

> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms

>

>  

> I get that all the time, it's really annoying. They go away

> then come back.

> Steve

>

> --- On Tue, 5/25/10, MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> wrote:

>

> > From: MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> > Subject: [eSens] New Symptoms

> > To: [hidden email]

> > Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 11:42 AM

> > Hi Everyone

> >

> > As of a few weeks back I have

> > been experiencing a new symptom- a swollen lymph node

> in my

> > neck. That entire

> > side of my neck now aches . I've been to the doctor

> but as

> > the lump is

> > tiny he is advising that we monitor it closely as its

> too

> > small for

> > surgery. Has anyone else experienced this? Just when I

> seem

> > to be

> > showing signs of improvement (changed careers, ears

> no

> > longer ringing,

> > face not burning as frequently) this happens. Its

> very

> > disheartening.

> >

> > Diane

> >

> >

> >       

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >     [hidden email]

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>      

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>     [hidden email]

>

>

>

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evie15422
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Hi Sandra,
 
Have you ever looked into "Essiac" for cancer?  It is an herbal mixture.
 
Good luck with what you are taking,
Diane

--- On Sat, 5/29/10, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: S.T. <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 8:23 AM


 



Hi Steph,
 
The way that Bill Henderson explained Beta Glucan dosage in his book is basically 1 pill per 23 KG of weight for the first 3 months and then one a day after that as a maintenance. Mind you,  Bill is convinced by his research that Beta-1, 3D Glucan by Transfer Point  successfully kills cancer cells. Of course I am as sceptical but upon some further research I was curious enough to give it a shot.  I will  know if it did anything when I go for my  ultrasound in September.
 
Sandra
 

--- On Fri, 5/28/10, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 7:16 AM

 

Hi to everyone who has posted on this new symptoms thread.
 
It is amazing to me how timely this thread is because I have over the last 10 weeks or so been experiencing - on an on and off basis - painful lymph nodes in my groin which have me really really worried. At the risk of seeming like a total idiot I will confess to doing a google search which panickedme into thinking I had Lymphoma of some sort . I have ME and get swollen lymph nodes periodically with that - but mainly in the neck and armpit - never in the groin before in 8 years of having it. So I was trying to soothe myself and say its just ME [and prob ES too]. I also get occasional night sweats - also part of the Me picture- but haven't had one for months nowand also don't have the weight loss which is a symptom of lymphoma. i'm booked in to see the doc next week to get it checked out tho because swollen lymph nodes like this are not good, having said that I'm not sure how much a conventional doc is going to be able to do.
 
I have been trying dry skin brushing and 12 glasses of water but don't seemto be getting anywhere with that. The suggestions on this post were great and I have a couple of questions which maybe someone can answer. I like theidea of the Beta-13- Glucan - is it safe to take on a long term basis?? And how do you do lymphatic drainage treatments? can you DIY them or do you have to get someone to do manual LD???
 
Thanks to all for raising this - it is a  worrying symptom and my fears have been eased a little by what I have read here.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

--- On Thu, 27/5/10, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: S.T. <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 22:25

 

Hi Diane,
 
Sorry to hear about your latest issue. I am sure you are aware that there are many reasons for the lymph nodes to be enlarged. Root canals, teeth issues, thyroid issues,  mouth sores, bad throat,  detoxing blockages etc. It is also a common ES symptom. 
 
I would say this one is a pretty standard one for me.  The last ultrasound I had on March 25, revealed a lump abut 1/2 inch in one of the lymph nodes in my neck. I have a follow up ultra sound in 6 months. It could be that some bad cells escaped my thyroid while I still had it, and are now developing elsewhere. I agree with  Andrew who said that we all have cancer cells. I always think of my ES as a form of a chroniccancer because it is debilitating and it kills in the long run. Mightseem radical but it just makes me be more proactive.
 
 I follow a couple of cancer natural treatments. I love the Budwig therapy with cottage cheese and flax-oil. I do it every day. I also take something Beta-1 3-D Glucan which is supposed to be a very potent immune building and cancer killing tool. Both therapies are outlined in Bill Henderson's Cancer Free book. The wisdom in  that book is tremendous. Cancer or not,  a great read, for yourself and your family. To cut a long story short, I will evaluate the treatment after a six month period. Hopefullyby then whatever is is in my neck will BE GONE. Fingers crossed.
 
Oh yeah, I survived 11 foot baths or foot spas treatments within the last three months. I could only do 1 per week as I was sure I was dying after thefirst one....I was so weak, could not get out of bed for three days. My body was inflamed and kind of burning all over, I had  a strange metal taste in my mouth, sore throat, painful joints etc.  I persisted and now they seem to make me tired only on the day of the treatment. I will do another 10 sessions as Charles suggested, it is definitely helping...Also my neck nodes got really painful when I started these baths and I did two lymphatic drainage treatments and it calmed down..Good luck!
 
 
 
--- On Thu, 5/27/10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:08 PM

 

Hi Diane,

I have the same thing - but it is the lymph nodes under my arms that swell at times and then no problem at all for long periods. Sorry you are feelingworse. Hope that changes soon.

Cheryl

--- On Thu, 5/27/10, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 1:03 PM

 

I've never had a health issue with them. It is odd, though. I feel around and under my neck and its swollen and then 2 days later its flat again.

--- On Thu, 5/27/10, MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms

> To: [hidden email]

> Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:39 AM

> I hope they do go away because

> honestly- I'm terrified.

>

> Diane

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Steve G <[hidden email]>

> To: [hidden email]

> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:52:33 AM

> Subject: Re: [eSens] New Symptoms

>

>  

> I get that all the time, it's really annoying. They go away

> then come back.

> Steve

>

> --- On Tue, 5/25/10, MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> wrote:

>

> > From: MJQ 7688 <[hidden email]>

> > Subject: [eSens] New Symptoms

> > To: [hidden email]

> > Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 11:42 AM

> > Hi Everyone

> >

> > As of a few weeks back I have

> > been experiencing a new symptom- a swollen lymph node

> in my

> > neck. That entire

> > side of my neck now aches . I've been to the doctor

> but as

> > the lump is

> > tiny he is advising that we monitor it closely as its

> too

> > small for

> > surgery. Has anyone else experienced this? Just when I

> seem

> > to be

> > showing signs of improvement (changed careers, ears

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Re: New Symptoms

Loni Rosser
My dad did essiac tea I think & did absolutely nothing. Loni

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Hi Sandra,
 
Have you ever looked into "Essiac" for cancer?  It is an herbal mixture.
 
Good luck with what you are taking,
Diane

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Hi Steph,
 
The way that Bill Henderson explained Beta Glucan dosage in his book is basically 1 pill per 23 KG of weight for the first 3 months and then one a day after that as a maintenance. Mind you,  Bill is convinced by his research that Beta-1, 3D Glucan by Transfer Point  successfully kills cancer cells. Of course I am as sceptical but upon some further research I was curious enough to give it a shot.  I will  know if it did anything when I go for my  ultrasound in September.
 
Sandra
 

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Hi to everyone who has posted on this new symptoms thread.
 
It is amazing to me how timely this thread is because I have over the last 10 weeks or so been experiencing - on an on and off basis - painful lymph nodes in my groin which have me really really worried. At the risk of seeming like a total idiot I will confess to doing a google search which panickedme into thinking I had Lymphoma of some sort . I have ME and get swollen lymph nodes periodically with that - but mainly in the neck and armpit - never in the groin before in 8 years of having it. So I was trying to soothe myself and say its just ME [and prob ES too]. I also get occasional night sweats - also part of the Me picture- but haven't had one for months nowand also don't have the weight loss which is a symptom of lymphoma. i'm booked in to see the doc next week to get it checked out tho because swollen lymph nodes like this are not good, having said that I'm not sure how much a conventional doc is going to be able to do.
 
I have been trying dry skin brushing and 12 glasses of water but don't seemto be getting anywhere with that. The suggestions on this post were great and I have a couple of questions which maybe someone can answer. I like theidea of the Beta-13- Glucan - is it safe to take on a long term basis?? And how do you do lymphatic drainage treatments? can you DIY them or do you have to get someone to do manual LD???
 
Thanks to all for raising this - it is a  worrying symptom and my fears have been eased a little by what I have read here.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph

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Hi Diane,
 
Sorry to hear about your latest issue. I am sure you are aware that there are many reasons for the lymph nodes to be enlarged. Root canals, teeth issues, thyroid issues,  mouth sores, bad throat,  detoxing blockages etc. It is also a common ES symptom. 
 
I would say this one is a pretty standard one for me.  The last ultrasound I had on March 25, revealed a lump abut 1/2 inch in one of the lymph nodes in my neck. I have a follow up ultra sound in 6 months. It could be that some bad cells escaped my thyroid while I still had it, and are now developing elsewhere. I agree with  Andrew who said that we all have cancer cells. I always think of my ES as a form of a chroniccancer because it is debilitating and it kills in the long run. Mightseem radical but it just makes me be more proactive.
 
 I follow a couple of cancer natural treatments. I love the Budwig therapy with cottage cheese and flax-oil. I do it every day. I also take something Beta-1 3-D Glucan which is supposed to be a very potent immune building and cancer killing tool. Both therapies are outlined in Bill Henderson's Cancer Free book. The wisdom in  that book is tremendous. Cancer or not,  a great read, for yourself and your family. To cut a long story short, I will evaluate the treatment after a six month period. Hopefullyby then whatever is is in my neck will BE GONE. Fingers crossed.
 
Oh yeah, I survived 11 foot baths or foot spas treatments within the last three months. I could only do 1 per week as I was sure I was dying after thefirst one....I was so weak, could not get out of bed for three days. My body was inflamed and kind of burning all over, I had  a strange metal taste in my mouth, sore throat, painful joints etc.  I persisted and now they seem to make me tired only on the day of the treatment. I will do another 10 sessions as Charles suggested, it is definitely helping...Also my neck nodes got really painful when I started these baths and I did two lymphatic drainage treatments and it calmed down..Good luck!
 
 
 
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Hi Diane,

I have the same thing - but it is the lymph nodes under my arms that swell at times and then no problem at all for long periods. Sorry you are feelingworse. Hope that changes soon.

Cheryl

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I've never had a health issue with them. It is odd, though. I feel around and under my neck and its swollen and then 2 days later its flat again.

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> I hope they do go away because

> honestly- I'm terrified.

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> > As of a few weeks back I have

> > been experiencing a new symptom- a swollen lymph node

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Re: New Symptoms

R. Ticle
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Sorry if someone's mentioned this, I'm somewhat behind in these messages...but on the note of the lymphatic system, the herb Cleavers is supposed to be an excellent lymphatic tonic/cleanser.  I've used the tincture twicewhen I had what felt like a swollen node with good results.  In Canada, at least, St. Francis Herb Farm makes the Cleavers tincture, as well as a combination tincture.  I'm sure other companies do, too.

R.

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A few years ago, a felt a sharp pain in a lymph node in my left side  

when a cell phone was near me. I now have a lump in that node and it  

is slightly painful. I have about 10 other fatty lipomas below my  

liver, in my legs, small ones in my arms.



Vaccinations carry tumor producing viral/bacteria that could cause it  

30-40 years afterwards. It may be the body's natural way of enclosing  

a bad thing to make sure it doesn't spread.



I don't know in your case. Either way, I would be taking Colloidal  

Silver, or what ever your favorite non toxic antibiotic to make sure  

that your lymph node gets some help. Do some exercise to pump the  

lymphatic system as well.



If it is a cancerous growth, there are many things that will kill the  

cancer without cutting it out which will move it around the body.

B-17 (apple seeds, apricot seeds etc) should be in all of our diets  

because we all have cancer to some extent.

Fevers are good if you can kill it with raising your body temp.



I hope you report it gone in a week.



All my best to you!

Andrew



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> tiny he is advising that we monitor it closely as its too small for

> surgery. Has anyone else experienced this? Just when I seem to be

> showing signs of improvement (changed careers, ears no longer ringing,

> face not burning as frequently) this happens. Its very disheartening.

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