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Fog Top

May 19, 2016; 8:07pm

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

I would move that smoke alarm further away and high up on a ceiling.

What law are you citing for mandatory smoke alarms?

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Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 7:14 PM
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Mine are battery operated, but I do have a gas heater and oven so not sure it would be wise to remove it. My meter is about 3 feet away from my bed, but outside the room (in living room)

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he says it affects at some distance--like 30 feet. Do you have wired ones? or can you just pull out the batteries? I have 3 but two have batteries and I have disabled them...

just because we are ehs does not mean we react any more than others to ionizing radiation tho... nobody knows I think.

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Does he say how close you have to be for it to be a problem or does it ionize the air and infect the whole room or area?

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steve

May 19, 2016; 8:36pm

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

California. My apt is so small I don't think i can get it far enough away anyway

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I would move that smoke alarm further away and high up on a ceiling.

What law are you citing for mandatory smoke alarms?

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Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 7:14 PM
To: Fog Top
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Mine are battery operated, but I do have a gas heater and oven so not sure it would be wise to remove it. My meter is about 3 feet away from my bed, but outside the room (in living room)

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he says it affects at some distance--like 30 feet. Do you have wired ones? or can you just pull out the batteries? I have 3 but two have batteries and I have disabled them...

just because we are ehs does not mean we react any more than others to ionizing radiation tho... nobody knows I think.

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SuperLaura

May 20, 2016; 2:37pm

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

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So the smoke alarms are wired, and they are powered separately from my circuits, so it's not like I can even turn them off with the circuit breakers :( I know because one time our whole apartment complex... Every single apartment in the building.. The smoke alarms went off for a few hours. People were ripping them out of the ceilings and walls to get them to stop lol! I guess there was some kind of flooding or something in one of the apartments and so for some reason the whole system went haywire. Kinda wishing I would have ripped them out too....Anyways the smoke alarm is probably about 15 feet from my head when I sleep. I know something in the bedroom and I don't like having the AC on in there.. Maybe it's not the AC maybe it's the air moving around... Or maybe it's the magnetic field that I found coming from under the bed, or maybe it's both. I looked at some videos of people measuring the smoke detectors but they had to be pretty close to it to pick up radiation.. So how would you even measure the air??

SuperLaura

May 20, 2016; 2:40pm

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

Can ionizing radiation cause sore throats or irritation/redness/lumps in the throat/roof of the mouth?

Lynnezhu

May 20, 2016; 3:41pm

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

I don't know but I have the above mentioned and sleep near a wired detector!!

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Can ionizing radiation cause sore throats or irritation/redness/lumps in the throat/roof of the mouth?

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SuperLaura

May 20, 2016; 5:19pm

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Hmm, thats quite a coincidence!!!! I seem to have had this problem the whole time I've lived here (about 1-2 years).. which is the first time I've had a wired smoke detector. I don't even remember what my mouth or throat is supposed to look like anymore but I know it doesn't look right. The soreness goes away completely sometimes but if I look in the mirror with the flashlight my throat doesn't ever look any better. Has this been the case for you?

Lynnezhu

May 20, 2016; 6:00pm

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

I am experimenting with various toothpastes and mouth washes... looking into cavitations..but it doesn't seem to be tooth...! the wired detector is right above my bed. Just started sleeping there a couple of months ago. This has never happened to me before...

had a small fever for a while which is now gone.. who knows?

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Hmm, thats quite a coincidence!!!! I seem to have had this problem the whole time I've lived here (about 1-2 years).. which is the first time I've had a wired smoke detector. I don't even remember what my mouth or throat is supposed to look like anymore but I know it doesn't look right. The soreness goes away completely sometimes but if I look in the mirror with the flashlight my throat doesn't ever look any better. Has this been the case for you?

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steve

May 20, 2016; 8:22pm

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

In reply to this post by Fog Top

Mine is battery operated so I just pulled it off the wall and stuck it in the corner of my apt., as far away from my bed as possible.
I had my meter and decided to snoop around and I have a sound machine plugged in and it was reading off the roof. I suspect it may be the SSD sound card inside because the reading was just as high even when I unplugged it!
Since I don't use it anymore after getting an air purifier that acts as a white noise machine I put it back in it's box inside my hall closet.
Steve

Patricia

Jun 19, 2016; 2:29am

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

In reply to this post by Lynnezhu

there are negative ion generators...

and then there are negative ion generators.

get one that is very low tech - no fan, no

dials or other fancy features. mine has

served me well for decades and all it is, is

a little stick on a box that puts out almost

zero EMFs. i think the website is

negativeIonGenerators.com - they're based

in MO... a mom & pop operation. i keep it

on the other side of the room from where i

sit or sleep and it seems to be very good

for cleaning the air and for minding its own

business. :) not at all intrusive.

on the other hand... i've had those with all

the bells and whistles and i'll never go back

to them. keep it simple... you know... KISS.

love, patricia

On May 19, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Lynnezhu [via ES] wrote:

he says it affects at some distance--like 30 feet. Do you have wired ones? or can you just pull out the batteries? I have 3 but two have batteries and I have disabled them...

just because we are ehs does not mean we react any more than others to ionizing radiation tho... nobody knows I think.

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steve

Jun 19, 2016; 2:50am

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

I actually have the same one myself.

I do find if I keep it on all the time it irritates my sinuses so I just use it once a week or so to clean the air or if I get sick to kill the germs

Steve

From: Patricia [via ES] <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:29 PM
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there are negative ion generators...
and then there are negative ion generators.
get one that is very low tech - no fan, no
dials or other fancy features. mine has
served me well for decades and all it is, is
a little stick on a box that puts out almost
zero EMFs. i think the website is
negativeIonGenerators.com - they're based
in MO... a mom & pop operation. i keep it
on the other side of the room from where i
sit or sleep and it seems to be very good
for cleaning the air and for minding its own
business. :) not at all intrusive.
on the other hand... i've had those with all
the bells and whistles and i'll never go back
to them. keep it simple... you know... KISS.
love, patricia

On May 19, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Lynnezhu [via ES] wrote:

he says it affects at some distance--like 30 feet. Do you have wired ones? or can you just pull out the batteries? I have 3 but two have batteries and I have disabled them...

just because we are ehs does not mean we react any more than others to ionizing radiation tho... nobody knows I think.

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:17 PM, SuperLaura [via ES] <<a href="x-msg://275/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4029260&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:
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Patricia

Jun 19, 2016; 3:01am

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

In reply to this post by steve

i meant to respond to this long ago.
we live in strange times, folks.
so there are things that can be affecting
sleep that we would never dream of...
but let's keep it simple right now, since
i like simple.

a gentleman named robert gray wrote
a book called "the colon health handbook"
and that book helped a lot of people get
healthier. he told me about the more
'subtle energies' of food and made me
promise not to publish the info until
he was dead and gone... which he
is now... at any rate, this is what he
explained:

foods from trees are sweet, wet and
cool and are designed to be eaten raw
and to wake us up in the morning. they
are 'brain food'. they help you do mental
work. but don't eat too many or
you will find yourself becoming overly
"fruity and nutty".

foods that grow on vines and tall plants
are meant for giving energy for socializing
and for working with people in offices.
grains, fruits of the vine, cukes, tomatoes,
and so on. too much makes you overly
aggressive.

foods that grow low to the ground and in
water are designed to support your
emotions...to help you relax after work...
to feed your emotional body. dark green
leafy veggies, watermelon, pineapple,
strawberries, squash, and so on.
eat a lot the day before you go to therapy -
or at picnics in the park, or if you want
to work on buried emotions.
don't eat much if you are interviewing
for a responsible position at a Fortune 500
company. they won't understand if you
go all gooey on them.

foods that grow underground help you
sleep soundly. potatoes, sweet potatoes,
onions, garlic, galanga root, ginger.
speaking of which, need to go to sleep
very soon. i had a lovely soup tonight
that is lulling me to sleep.

PLUS... where i live now appears to be
haunted - there is an indian burial ground
nearby. and i have developed a habit of
asking my guardian angels to wrap me
in their wings and protect me from any
thoughts or feelings or untoward influences
that might come my way. we also live in
a time when people have developed and
are using electronic weapons. so i sleep
in a mylar tent. and it feels very safe in
there. i suspect that at least some of us
are being experimented on or are "too
smart" and are being "dumbed down" by
electronic interference. read kurt
vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron" -
you can download it as a pdf. i do believe
we might be living in 1984... a few decades
later.

i also have developed a habit of saying
something like, "NO ONE has my permission
to harm me in any way. NO ONE has my
permission to disturb my sleep. NO ONE
has my permission to create chaos in my
life." and so on... addressing whatever
shows up. have no fear... they have been
implanting us with rfid chips for years
already, so they can hear - and the rules
of the game are that they need your
permission to inflict their mischief on you.
there are patents for many very nifty and
nasty electronic devices - "Silent Weapons
for Quiet Wars" can also be downloaded
as a pdf. an important read.

off to bed now for a very restful, root
vegetable sleep. :)
love, patricia

Patricia

Jun 19, 2016; 3:58am

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

In reply to this post by steve

my theory is that this little contraption
has saved me from chemtrail pollution.
love, patricia

On Jun 18, 2016, at 9:50 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

> I actually have the same one myself.
> I do find if I keep it on all the time it irritates my sinuses so I just use it once a week or so to clean the air or if I get sick to kill the germs
> Steve
>
>
> From: Patricia [via ES] <[hidden email]>
> To: steve <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:29 PM
> Subject: [ES] Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?
>
> there are negative ion generators...
> and then there are negative ion generators.
> get one that is very low tech - no fan, no
> dials or other fancy features. mine has
> served me well for decades and all it is, is
> a little stick on a box that puts out almost
> zero EMFs. i think the website is
> negativeIonGenerators.com - they're based
> in MO... a mom & pop operation. i keep it
> on the other side of the room from where i
> sit or sleep and it seems to be very good
> for cleaning the air and for minding its own
> business. :) not at all intrusive.
> on the other hand... i've had those with all
> the bells and whistles and i'll never go back
> to them. keep it simple... you know... KISS.
> love, patricia
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Lynnezhu [via ES] wrote:
>
>> he says it affects at some distance--like 30 feet. Do you have wired ones? or can you just pull out the batteries? I have 3 but two have batteries and I have disabled them...
>>
>> just because we are ehs does not mean we react any more than others to ionizing radiation tho... nobody knows I think.
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:17 PM, SuperLaura [via ES] <<a href="x-msg://275/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4029260&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Does he say how close you have to be for it to be a problem or does it ionize the air and infect the whole room or area?
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charles

Jun 19, 2016; 10:42am

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

ALL negative ion generators do produce dirty frequencies, which pass through concrete walls. Most *normal* HF meters cannot measure them.

Patricia

Jun 19, 2016; 1:03pm

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

well, charles, the dirty electricity here is so

off the charts and the chemtrails are so thick,

that i can't help but think that the benefits

WAY outweigh any disadvantages. when the

negative ion generators are off, the air is far

worse and i can feel it in my lungs and bones.

if the air was clean, i'd probably not use it,

but air, water, food, and ground - all are

toxic these days.

who runs these toxic systems? i'd like to have

a word with "him" ... or maybe not.

love, patricia

On Jun 19, 2016, at 5:42 AM, charles [via ES] wrote:

ALL negative ion generators do produce dirty frequencies, which pass through concrete walls. Most *normal* HF meters cannot measure them.

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electrohypersensitive

Jun 19, 2016; 4:07pm

Re: Any ideas to combat this insomnia?

This post was updated on Jun 19, 2016; 4:10pm.

In reply to this post by Lynnezhu

*EDIT**** I'm so nervous being on this computer that I didn't realize this is an old thread and already has 3 pages of responses! But I'll leave this post up in case it helps anyone. **

For years every morning I'd wake up feeling like I barely got any sleep. These things greatly helped:

Moving bedrooms. Dunno why, maybe that room had a lot of dirty electricity or something. But when I walk into my current bedroom, it doesn't immediately drain me anymore.

Removing all (or as much as I could) metal from my bedroom. I have a metal free mattress and boxspring now, and I even took out the ceiling fan. Sleep greatly improved.

I double a "weighted wrap" over my hips at night; deep pressure calms your senses down and increase serotonin. It's improved my sleep a lot also.

I also wear a set of orange goggles at sunset. Orange takes out the blue in artificial lighting. Then melatonin is allowed to produce. Blue light (in all aritificial lighting) prevents melatonin from producing.

I also wear earplugs and an eyemask.

I also realized having my DOG in my bedroom (or anywhere near me throughout the day, for that matter) was draining my energies. He is an electromagnetic being, after all.

I also turn off the circuit breaker for my bedroom at night.

Hope this helps!! Let us know what works for you. Best of luck!

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