![]() I had heard once the water meters were very bad, but have lost where I can find the reference and now can not find any other reference. Would like to know if any one has heard anything about it. |
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From what my equipment shows, smart meters attached to water lines do not raise RF levels in the home. The decibels drop with distance, like a cell phone text. Nothing to get upset about.
Smart meters attached to energized wiring is a whole different ball game due to RF traveling on energized wiring. Just think of an octopus with it's tentacles as the wiring in the walls, ceiling, and floors. The electric field that extends 6-10 feet from the wiring becomes pulsed. Some people are forced to have them and the only option they have is to shield the opposite side of the meter and flip all breakers off, except the fridge and climate control for the home. Do not put one of these on your own home unless the meter is facing you. http://smartmeterguard.com/?gclid=CNLRxdvchcgCFVFefgodKEcDrw These are excellent for your neighbor's meters that are pelting you day and night. |
The smart water meters that I'm familiar with operate in either the 400 or 900 Mhz range and may be in a passive mode in which they transmit only when prodded by an external source and then go back to sleep or they are transmitting 24/7. The meters vary and one has to find the white papers on them.
I know a lady who won HUD complaint against a utility which had to remove the smart water meter from her house. It was a 24/7 pulser. I've used an analyzer on several smart water meters and could pick up the signal in the house on the room furthest away from the meter. Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 06:38:32 -0700 From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: [ES] Re: Any Experience with Smart Water Meters?? From what my equipment shows, smart meters attached to water lines do not raise RF levels in the home. The decibels drop with distance, like a cell phone text. Nothing to get upset about. Smart meters attached to energized wiring is a whole different ball game due to RF traveling on energized wiring. Just think of an octopus with it's tentacles as the wiring in the walls, ceiling, and floors. The electric field that extends 6-10 feet from the wiring becomes pulsed. Some people are forced to have them and the only option they have is to shield the opposite side of the meter and flip all breakers off, except the fridge and climate control for the home. Do not put one of these on your own home unless the meter is facing you. http://smartmeterguard.com/?gclid=CNLRxdvchcgCFVFefgodKEcDrw These are excellent for your neighbor's meters that are pelting you day and night.
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In Phoenix/Scottsdale Arizona we have water meters that transmit every 15 seconds. I can get measurements at the road but they really drop off once you get some distance, like 20 feet away. They are battery operated unlike the ones attached to the electrical panel. The water meter's transmission does not radiate from the pipe as it doesn't have the energy.
My equipment to measure them consists of a Gigahertz Solutions HFE59B with a UBB27 attached to a NFA1000 for recording. It's pretty sensitive especially with the preamplifier attached. The only way to escape is to live out in the middle of nowhere off the grid...then you will have to deal with Loon soon. A canopy is the only way to go here. |
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On September 20, "Cured of EHS [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> In Phoenix/Scottsdale Arizona we have water meters that transmit every 15 > seconds. I can get measurements at the road but they really drop off once > you get some distance, like 20 feet away. Although for people who are affected by longitudinal waves (as Charles has mentioned), those do not fall off as quickly as electric/magnetic fields, so people could still have symptoms. I have certainly had symptoms from electronics that seemed too far away to be causing a problem, yet the problem goes away when you turn them off (or the longterm approach --- improve your health enough) Marc |
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Longitudinal waves that Charles mentioned? What equipment measures them?
I was so sensitive that I could feel a cell tower a few blocks away. Now it takes me at least an hour or so and sometimes longer to be bothered by it. Large public functions were impossible to attend. I have seen too many people loose their sensitivities, including myself, just by protecting their sleeping area from ALL man made emf. Doing this properly with the right equipment is key to accomplishing the correct outcome. |
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On September 20, "Cured of EHS [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Longitudinal waves that Charles mentioned? What equipment measures them? I don't know if there is a meter for that... Charles would know. :-) Marc |
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Did not know what Loon was til I looked it up here: https://www.bing.com/search?q=Loon&pc=MOZI&form=MOZSBR The first entry is quite correct. "Foolish". Yes quite disturbing as well. I hope that something can be done before it gets too far gone.
I am going to be rural and off grid. The place I am going to start at is not much better than what I have now, but is an improvement in every other way. I will be close enough then to search for something more suitable without having to drive over a day each way and back, because there is no safe lodging. I have to be out of where I am and glad I can at least have something in the interim that is the at least the same or better. Not good but could be so much worse. All the rural places in AZ require $$$$.... or a smart meter-my reply? I ordered a couple panels from Renogy. All I need now is to have the frame fixed. I know some people that bought a home in the area I live now, only one person me was able to opt out. They are not living in the house. I told them you know you need an off grid system here, as you can't opt out. They are shopping. Very hard to do solar where I am now, but people still will. I prefer to not think in terms of shielding, but do the best I can to avoid. After that I shield like hell on what is left over. |
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Most of the rural remote spaced out parks I can afford have wells. I have and use a canopy. I get sick when out more than a couple hours a day on average. Can vary though. I already have the hook set aside to hang it there on moving day.
Less EMF told me I may want to get fabric over the windows, and the entire trailer "may" become a faraday cage. I will have to see. That kind of thing often fails miserably, but for others it's a flying success. First the sensitive has to be able to tolerate metal, as I do-many get worse inside the canopy due to the silver or other alloy in the fabric. For me it's saved my life. I will have to see when the time comes. I am going to choose the best place I can, in the short time I have to do so at the beginning of snowbird season. If the trailer helps then so be it, but not counting on it. Funny: from the replies here it seems that the unsmart water meters are like all else. Some feel it more than others. Some are bothered some are not. An authority on electric smart meters told me they too drop off at a distance pretty quick, but as mentioned above they turn all lines on their circuit into big fat antennas, where the water ones do not affect the lines. I visited a park last week: NO wifi 100 to 200 feet from maybe one person. There were smart meters on all the posts and the readings in the whole park was HIGH. Much higher than the other park that had main smart meter feeding into analogs on the posts and had more density of people. Another park some time ago had wifi, no smart meters, semi dense and all the spaces I pulled in were quiet zones, except for by the office. |
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