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Another name for EHS

Snoshoe
"Wind Turbine Syndrome"

You may know that these produce high levels of emfs, so what do they expect?

I think wind farms are a good idea actually, but like they say in real estate; "location, location, location". Not good by people!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2199284/Wind-farms-Are-wind-farms-saving-killing-A-provocative-investigation-claims-thousands-people-falling-sick-live-near-them.html

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charles-4
I have measured quite a lot of wind turbines, but never found any EMF.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
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  "Wind Turbine Syndrome"

  You may know that these produce high levels of emfs, so what do they expect?

  I think wind farms are a good idea actually, but like they say in real estate; "location, location, location". Not good by people!

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2199284/Wind-farms-Are-wind-farms-saving-killing-A-provocative-investigation-claims-thousands-people-falling-sick-live-near-them.html



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Re: Another name for EHS

PUK
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apart from the noise  I guess that the massive turbine blades  distort the
natural airborne frequencies that we know little about, just our  bodies
give us the warning signs, they probably also draw in other spurious  energies !
 
puk
 
In a message dated 10/09/2012 09:04:51 GMT Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
I have measured quite a lot of wind turbines, but never found any  EMF.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband  Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: snoshoe_2
To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  
Sent:  Monday, September 10, 2012 6:08 AM
Subject: [eSens] Another name for  EHS

"Wind Turbine Syndrome"

You may know that these produce high  levels of emfs, so what do they
expect?

I think wind farms are a good  idea actually, but like they say in real
estate; "location, location,  location". Not good by people!

_http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2199284/Wind-farms-Are-wind
-farms-saving-killing-A-provocative-investigation-claims-thousands-people-fa
lling-sick-live-near-them.html_
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2199284/Wind-farms-Are-wind-farms-saving-killing-A-provocative-investig
ation-claims-thousands-people-falling-sick-live-near-them.html)

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PUK
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Also with turbines what about the dirty power issues and ground currents ?  
I wonder what frequency the electricity is generated at, I doubt if they
can get  50=60hz ? so where are the electronics and are they sheilded ?
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 10/09/2012 10:47:26 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email]  
writes:

 
 
 
apart from the noise I guess that the massive turbine blades distort the  
natural airborne frequencies that we know little about, just our bodies  
give us the warning signs, they probably also draw in other spurious  
energies !

puk

In a message dated 10/09/2012 09:04:51 GMT  Daylight Time,
_charles@milieuziektes.be_ (mailto:[hidden email])   writes:

I have measured quite a lot of wind turbines, but never found  any EMF.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband  Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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From: snoshoe_2
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Sent:  Monday, September 10, 2012 6:08 AM
Subject: [eSens] Another name for  EHS

"Wind Turbine Syndrome"

You may know that these produce high  levels of emfs, so what do they
expect?

I think wind farms are a  good idea actually, but like they say in real
estate; "location, location,  location". Not good by people!

__http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2199284/Wind-farms-Are-win
d_
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2199284/Wind-farms-Are-wind)
-farms-saving-killing-A-provocative-investigation-claims-thousands-people-fa
lling-sick-live-near-them.html_  
(_http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2199284/Wind-farms-Are-win
d-farms-saving-killing-A-provocative-investig_
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2199284/Wind-farms-Are-wind-farms-saving-killing-A-provo
cative-investig)
ation-claims-thousands-people-falling-sick-live-near-them.html)  

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RE: Another name for EHS

Elizabeth thode
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WEll, maybe the wind turbines in your country are designeddifferently then the one's here. Many people here in the states complain of the flicker from theblades, the vibrations, and constant hearing noises. This may not count as emfs, but they are quite disruptive tothe human body.  In addition, there is a hum that is coming from the vibration of suchunits.  Lizzie
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      I have measured quite a lot of wind turbines, but never found any EMF.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Emsisoft



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  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:08 AM

  Subject: [eSens] Another name for EHS



"Wind Turbine Syndrome"



You may know that these produce high levels of emfs, so what do they expect?



I think wind farms are a good idea actually, but like they say in real estate; "location, location, location". Not good by people!



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2199284/Wind-farms-Are-wind-farms-saving-killing-A-provocative-investigation-claims-thousands-people-falling-sick-live-near-them.html



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Re: Another name for EHS

Marc Martin
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On September 10, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:
> WEll, maybe the wind turbines in your country are designed differently
> then the one's here. Many people here in the states complain of the
> flicker from theblades, the vibrations, and constant hearing noises.

I've driven by these "farms" of wind turbines, and do indeed note
that there is something about these that make me feel bad, and
from quite a distance.  Not sure what this is, but I would not
attribute it to flicker, vibration,or noise....

Marc
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Elizabeth thode

Just a bad feeling that made you feel uncomfortable? The flicker from what I've read, is an experience home owners feel, while living literally in the shadows of the blades. Or at least close enough where the constant blade movement blocks out thelight, off and on, like those strobe lights.  I have read these home owners experience, either hear or feel, a constant sound/ noisethat  only stops when the wind turbines are turned off. Marc, I have no doubt you felt something. Might not be measurable with currentmeters, but the body is an extremely sensitive meter on its own. Lizzie
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      On September 10, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

> WEll, maybe the wind turbines in your country are designed differently

> then the one's here. Many people here in the states complain of the

> flicker from theblades, the vibrations, and constant hearing noises.



I've driven by these "farms" of wind turbines, and do indeed note

that there is something about these that make me feel bad, and

from quite a distance.  Not sure what this is, but I would not

attribute it to flicker, vibration,or noise....



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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Marc Martin
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On September 10, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Just a bad feeling that made you feel uncomfortable?

Yes.  Since I was merely driving by these wind turbines at
60+ MPH, flicker or noise or vibration shouldn't have been
a factor.

Could have been a "placebo" bad feeling, I suppose...  :-)

Marc
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Elizabeth thode

Perhaps, But you've a good working intuitive system.How many times did you pick something up,couldn't measure it, but knew it was there? Lizzie
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      On September 10, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Just a bad feeling that made you feel uncomfortable?



Yes.  Since I was merely driving by these wind turbines at

60+ MPH, flicker or noise or vibration shouldn't have been

a factor.



Could have been a "placebo" bad feeling, I suppose...  :-)



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RE: Another name for EHS

KathyB
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I've never driven by a wind farm, but have seem videos of the strobe light effect.

That alone w/o the noise could cause dizziness. Constant noise is uncomfortable.

We once rented a house that was 2 houses from a highway for a year. Was terrible. Couldn't stand the windows open. You could not drown it out, always heard it in the back round.

 After moving, was so nice to have quiet & to  hear the birds sing.

Kathy


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Just a bad feeling that made you feel uncomfortable? The flicker from what I've read, is an experience home owners feel, while living literally in the shadows of the blades. Or at least close enough where the constant blade movement blocks out thelight, off and on, like those strobe lights.  I have read these home owners experience, either hear or feel, a constant sound/ noisethat  only stops when the wind turbines are turned off. Marc, I have no doubt you felt something. Might not be measurable with currentmeters, but the body is an extremely sensitive meter on its own. Lizzie

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:56:48 -0700

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On September 10, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:



> WEll, maybe the wind turbines in your country are designed differently



> then the one's here. Many people here in the states complain of the



> flicker from theblades, the vibrations, and constant hearing noises.



I've driven by these "farms" of wind turbines, and do indeed note



that there is something about these that make me feel bad, and



from quite a distance.  Not sure what this is, but I would not



attribute it to flicker, vibration,or noise....



Marc



                     



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Re: Another name for EHS

Snoshoe

http://www.electricalpollution.com/windturbines.html
EMF= electromagnetic field

If you have motion, you have current. If you have current, you have
electricity. If you have electricity, you have a magnetic field.

Sound is a part of this, as is flicker.

It is enough it can interfere with satellite communications if they
are in the way of them.

~ Snoshoe



--- In [hidden email], KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote:

>
>
> I've never driven by a wind farm, but have seem videos of the strobe light effect.
>
> That alone w/o the noise could cause dizziness. Constant noise is uncomfortable.
>
> We once rented a house that was 2 houses from a highway for a year. Was terrible. Couldn't stand the windows open. You could not drown it out, always heard it in the back round.
>
>  After moving, was so nice to have quiet & to  hear the birds sing.
>
> Kathy
>

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Re: Another name for EHS

cjosephj
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It is definitely EHS.  A few years ago the town I lived in installed just one big wind turbine.  I didn't have EHS then, but I remember reading that you should not live within a mile of them, and was glad my house was just over a mile away.  Check out these articles:

Modern Wind Turbines Generate Dangerously "Dirty" Electricity
http://www.electricalpollution.com/windturbines.html

WIND SPIN: BLOWING HOLES IN INDUSTRY'S DENIAL OF HEALTH IMPACTS
http://eastcountymagazine.org/node/9425

Effects of offshore Wind Farms on Marine Mammals and Fish
http://seagrant.gso.uri.edu/oceansamp/pdf/presentation/present_gill_europe.pdf

WIND TURBINES MAKE WAVES: WHY SOME RESIDENTS NEAR WIND TURBINES BECOME ILL
http://www.magdahavas.com/wind-turbines-make-waves-why-some-residents-near-wind-turbines-become-ill/


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

>
> On September 10, Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:
> > WEll, maybe the wind turbines in your country are designed differently
> > then the one's here. Many people here in the states complain of the
> > flicker from theblades, the vibrations, and constant hearing noises.
>
> I've driven by these "farms" of wind turbines, and do indeed note
> that there is something about these that make me feel bad, and
> from quite a distance.  Not sure what this is, but I would not
> attribute it to flicker, vibration,or noise....
>
> Marc
>