Andre's EHS Releasing Method

Andre and I spoke on Skype about his method for releasing
electromagnetic fields from the body. I have volunteered to help him
communicate what he hopes to accomplish to help the millions of people
affected by this. Andre speaks very fluent and clear English though he
has difficulty translating English into the written word. He can read
your posts without difficulty. He currently resides in Las Vegas, Nevada
and we will share more specifics about him later.

At this time he does not want to put his EHS releasing method out on a
web page because it has to be done in a very specific way, and he wants
to make himself available for coaching people through it correctly. This
will be free of any charge, except perhaps $5 to buy a certain type of
item. We will work as quickly as possible to make this available to each
person that wishes to give it a try. If you find this method helps you,
you can feel free to send him a donation. If we find this helps 70-80
percent of those that try it, you can become part of the team to help
others and this could be your job, where you get paid. Perhaps in the
future there would be an organization with funding to help millions of
people.

Andre would like to start with an army of people trained to help each
other with this. I am going to get set up to give it a try and then
connect with him for the coaching part through skype. Don't worry if you
don't have Skype. He can buy, for a few dollars a month, a Skype
subscription to call landline phones, and also can get a phone number
that works through skype and people can call from a landline phone, so
you don't have to have skype to get this help. But, hey, Skype is
awesome, I love it!

If you want to get set up for an introduction to the method, email me at
kareneck at eoni dot com with a good time to call and your time zone.
After you hear the instructions, you can decide if you want to give it a
try with Andre's coaching. It will be free to try it. It would be a good
idea if we could set it up somewhat similar to a clinical trial to get
some statistics on what percentage is helped by it, and how much - if
anyone has any experience in that field. I am a Medical Technologist (do
lab blood work, etc.), and thus do have some medical training.

Andre doesn't want to just give out the method online, because it won't
work if not done in a specific order, then people will say it doesn't
work. He is ready and willing to start coaching people to see who can be
helped by it. Send me an email if interested: kareneck at eoni dot com.

Let's not use the words like "cure" and "healing". For the present I
have chosen "releasing."

Love is who we are,
Karen




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At the moment I have about 70 EHS persons, that I know of,  who are using my system with positive results.

Of course there may be other persons I do not know of, who just use the list from my homepage, without letting me know that they use it.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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  From: Karen Eck
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  Subject: [eSens] Andre's EHS Releasing Method


  Andre and I spoke on Skype about his method for releasing
  electromagnetic fields from the body. I have volunteered to help him
  communicate what he hopes to accomplish to help the millions of people
  affected by this. Andre speaks very fluent and clear English though he
  has difficulty translating English into the written word. He can read
  your posts without difficulty. He currently resides in Las Vegas, Nevada
  and we will share more specifics about him later.

  At this time he does not want to put his EHS releasing method out on a
  web page because it has to be done in a very specific way, and he wants
  to make himself available for coaching people through it correctly. This
  will be free of any charge, except perhaps $5 to buy a certain type of
  item. We will work as quickly as possible to make this available to each
  person that wishes to give it a try. If you find this method helps you,
  you can feel free to send him a donation. If we find this helps 70-80
  percent of those that try it, you can become part of the team to help
  others and this could be your job, where you get paid. Perhaps in the
  future there would be an organization with funding to help millions of
  people.

  Andre would like to start with an army of people trained to help each
  other with this. I am going to get set up to give it a try and then
  connect with him for the coaching part through skype. Don't worry if you
  don't have Skype. He can buy, for a few dollars a month, a Skype
  subscription to call landline phones, and also can get a phone number
  that works through skype and people can call from a landline phone, so
  you don't have to have skype to get this help. But, hey, Skype is
  awesome, I love it!

  If you want to get set up for an introduction to the method, email me at
  kareneck at eoni dot com with a good time to call and your time zone.
  After you hear the instructions, you can decide if you want to give it a
  try with Andre's coaching. It will be free to try it. It would be a good
  idea if we could set it up somewhat similar to a clinical trial to get
  some statistics on what percentage is helped by it, and how much - if
  anyone has any experience in that field. I am a Medical Technologist (do
  lab blood work, etc.), and thus do have some medical training.

  Andre doesn't want to just give out the method online, because it won't
  work if not done in a specific order, then people will say it doesn't
  work. He is ready and willing to start coaching people to see who can be
  helped by it. Send me an email if interested: kareneck at eoni dot com.

  Let's not use the words like "cure" and "healing". For the present I
  have chosen "releasing."

  Love is who we are,
  Karen




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On August 31, Karen Eck <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Andre would like to start with an army of people trained to help each
> other with this. I am going to get set up to give it a try and then
> connect with him for the coaching part through skype.

Thanks Karen!  Presumably you will let us know if this helps you.  :-)

Marc

Charles,

It is awesome what you have done. I've looked at your protocol several times. I get stuck at the point where it says have all your mercury amalgams safely removed. I don't have $5000-10,000 for that. There is no biological dentist anywhere near here, so it would also entail travel and motel expenses - and lotsa luck finding a motel I can tolerate the smell of. And I can't afford very many supplements at one time.

I've sensed that you don't feel very recognized nor appreciated sharing your protocol and that more people don't follow it, and I have wanted to pipe up and say I do appreciate what you share - there is just so few of the steps that I can afford. I haven't been able to spend much time with hands on keyboard and mouse making posts and replies.

Keep sharing and keep the chin up - for every person that expresses appreciation there are 100 more that feel it but don't let you know.

I'm intrigued by Andre's method as he thinks it is actually pulling EMF energy out of the body and in as little as 12 hours I could no longer be plagued by this curse of burning up half the day and all night long. I'll probably have to spread the the 12 hours out over 2-3 days or even not be able to do it much until Tues and Wed.

I'll keep everyone posted on the results.

Love is who we are,
Karen

On 8/31/2012 3:40:31 PM, charles ([hidden email]) wrote:

Of course, Marc, I will let the group know - that's the whole idea in becoming involved as I have.

We did about an hour and a half so far (out of an estimated 12 hours needed.) One reason for the one on one coaching at this point is you get about the same symptoms of exposure while the EMF drains out of you. It was quite severe for Andre and he would have been too afraid to continue if he hadn't been gifted with the ability to see the energy lines and the direction of flow > out of the body. It was fairly mild for me, mostly those little stabbing needle prickles. However, because I was laying down, the heat was building up in my face (I burn up all night long) too much to pay attention to what was happening in the rest of the body so we stopped. Another reason for the coaching is when to stop for a while. Next session I'll have to devise some sitting up method.

I don't know how much more I can get done on this holiday weekend. It may be Tues or Wed before I finish.

As time and experience with this play out, probably methods other than personal coaching will evolve.

Love is who we are,
Karen

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
 
> Thanks Karen!  Presumably you will let us know if this helps you.  :-)
>
> Marc
>

"...........you can become part of the team to help
others and this could be your job, where you get paid. Perhaps in the
future there would be an organization with funding to help millions of
people."
 
sounds like Pyramid.... just sayin
Aimee



--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Karen Eck <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Karen Eck <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Andre's EHS Releasing Method
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 4:26 PM


Andre and I spoke on Skype about his method for releasing
electromagnetic fields from the body. I have volunteered to help him
communicate what he hopes to accomplish to help the millions of people
affected by this. Andre speaks very fluent and clear English though he
has difficulty translating English into the written word. He can read
your posts without difficulty. He currently resides in Las Vegas, Nevada
and we will share more specifics about him later.

At this time he does not want to put his EHS releasing method out on a
web page because it has to be done in a very specific way, and he wants
to make himself available for coaching people through it correctly. This
will be free of any charge, except perhaps $5 to buy a certain type of
item. We will work as quickly as possible to make this available to each
person that wishes to give it a try. If you find this method helps you,
you can feel free to send him a donation. If we find this helps 70-80
percent of those that try it, you can become part of the team to help
others and this could be your job, where you get paid. Perhaps in the
future there would be an organization with funding to help millions of
people.

Andre would like to start with an army of people trained to help each
other with this. I am going to get set up to give it a try and then
connect with him for the coaching part through skype. Don't worry if you
don't have Skype. He can buy, for a few dollars a month, a Skype
subscription to call landline phones, and also can get a phone number
that works through skype and people can call from a landline phone, so
you don't have to have skype to get this help. But, hey, Skype is
awesome, I love it!

If you want to get set up for an introduction to the method, email me at
kareneck at eoni dot com with a good time to call and your time zone.
After you hear the instructions, you can decide if you want to give it a
try with Andre's coaching. It will be free to try it. It would be a good
idea if we could set it up somewhat similar to a clinical trial to get
some statistics on what percentage is helped by it, and how much - if
anyone has any experience in that field. I am a Medical Technologist (do
lab blood work, etc.), and thus do have some medical training.

Andre doesn't want to just give out the method online, because it won't
work if not done in a specific order, then people will say it doesn't
work. He is ready and willing to start coaching people to see who can be
helped by it. Send me an email if interested: kareneck at eoni dot com.

Let's not use the words like "cure" and "healing". For the present I
have chosen "releasing."

Love is who we are,
Karen




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Karen wrote:   "I could no longer be plagued by this curse of burning up half the day and all night long."

I've been reading your messages for months, and I still don't know how these EM fields affect you.  So many are ill and have to move, or stay away from the offending signals.  But nobody tells WHAT they experience and I don't know if I am being affected or not.

Like Karen said, above, she is "burning up"... I am too, but I thought it was HOT FLASHES and I've been trying to get my doctor to give me hormones for them.  But I am past menopause, they say, I shouldn't have these "flashes"... so I get no help there.  So maybe I'm just getting hit by these signals... not from my own insides.

Would you guys list a few of your typical physical effects that make you need to avoid these fields?  I just read "Dirty Electricity" by Dr. Samuel Milham, which I think was recommended by someone on this list. It is astonishing and horrifying... he says most of the typical diseases we take for granted today are caused by dirty electricity.  Breast cancer, testicular cancer, diabetes, leukemia, ALS, ADHD... the list goes on and on. I highly recommend the book.  

But you folks are talking about symptoms that make your ordinary living unbearable, not just the usual debilitating diseases we "expect" these days. I would like to know what you feel...  

Marji  

Hi Marji,

 

The
sensation of "burning" is the radiation burning/ heating on the
inside.

Then there
are: head-aches, eye problems, throat feeling like its swelling up, achy limbs,
brain fog, people don't tan in the sun- somehow the radiation BLOCKS the GOOD
rays

from the
sun......

 

insomnia,
the radiation acts like a drug, OVER stimulating the same part of the brain
that heroin stimulates,

chronic
fatigue, MAJOR irritability, temper zero to 60 NO patience ( I call this
radiation rage), or just TOO

darn tired
to even have any anger (this is severe adrenal burn out),

night
blindness, especially if driving at night in the rain, sensitivity to bright
lights, (see alot of people

 

always
wearing their sunglasses? Even when the sun is NOT out?)

in ability
to FOCUS, can't read a long email, or a book, can't remember WHAT you read
hours later (a severe case of brain fog) today many call this ADD..hmm...

carpal
tunnel...I"m sorry, that's not really carpal tunnel, that is THE thryoid
being under severe stress....in

 

Japan, the
word is long and I can't remember it (ha ha)

but the
translation is "ouchy ouch!", have to pee all the time, (I know where
every bathroom IS in every store I go to, if I don't, I will find it!)

 

Hot
flashes, can’t get warm,- in the winter always cold- or can’t sit in the sun,
you roast, all of these are a combination of thyroid, the thyroid regulates the
body’s temperatre.

Heart
arrithmia, anxiety- panic attacks, depression, all symptoms of low thyroid, and
magnesium deficiency. Caused by radiation.

 

Heavy metal
toxicity and radiation poisoning.

Nausea,
turning green, eating foods that you used to be able to eat, and now they make
you sick,

stomach
problems, bloating, indigestion, feeling dizzy and faint....Ear aches, strange
other symptoms that can seemingly be all over the place, the radiation blocks

the body's
merideans, this causes pain.

 

Also
INFLAMMATION big time. Today that call this: Fibromyalgia or ARthritus...nope,
its radiation poisoning. They can calll it whatever they want...

and lots of
people go to their doctors and get lots of prescription drugs, which only mask
the symptoms, then they get worse, because what is causing them

is not
being addressed.

 

Many of the
above symptoms are actually low thyroid and adrenals....but that is what
radiation does.

It assaults
the IMMUNE system. During chernobly, another form of radiation, the number of
thyroid cancers greatly increased!

I’m sure I
missed a few symptoms, someone else will come along and add to this list.

 

The
symptoms for radiation poisoning, from nuclear falll out, are the same as for
ES.

The
difference is, dose/ duration/ and strength.

I hope this
helps.

 

Blessings,

Lizzie


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Karen wrote:   "I could no longer be plagued by this curse of burning up half the day and all night long."



I've been reading your messages for months, and I still don't know how these EM fields affect you.  So many are ill and have to move, or stay away from the offending signals.  But nobody tells WHAT they experience and I don't know if I am being affected or not.



Like Karen said, above, she is "burning up"... I am too, but I thought it was HOT FLASHES and I've been trying to get my doctor to give me hormones for them.  But I am past menopause, they say, I shouldn't have these "flashes"... so I get no help there.  So maybe I'm just getting hit by these signals... not from my own insides.



Would you guys list a few of your typical physical effects that make you need to avoid these fields?  I just read "Dirty Electricity" by Dr. Samuel Milham, which I think was recommended by someone on this list. It is astonishing and horrifying... he says most of the typical diseases we take for granted today are caused by dirty electricity.  Breast cancer, testicular cancer, diabetes, leukemia, ALS, ADHD... the list goes on and on. I highly recommend the book.  



But you folks are talking about symptoms that make your ordinary living unbearable, not just the usual debilitating diseases we "expect" these days. I would like to know what you feel...  



Marji  





   
     

   
   






       

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   Marjij, I too am past menopause,
  However the last several months I have been having these 'sweats' at night - my neck, upper chest and upper back would get so soaked that is was not unusual that I needed to change my nightwear. This symptom disappeared totally --completely- when I got my bed canopy installed and started using it everynight.  I also had to get up to pee 3 to 4 times everynight  -- this also completely stopped. I have not got up to pee at night even once since I started using the bed canopy.  I am finding it amazing that symptoms that I took for granted were part of aging or whatever are gone! -but only when I am shielded. And now I sleep better then I have in many years - and every night not just a night here and there.  I sleep too well,if anything,  because if the house burnt down I am not sure if I would wake up..... I still do not dream though, and am mot sure what I can do about that.........

     And if I wear my 'big shirt' everyday plus something to shield my head, then after a couple of days I am not nearly as dizzy and confused.  But I seem to have to also wear the big shirt that is made from the Swiss Shield Naturall for a couple of days before dizziness is effected -the head thing by itself is not enough to stop the dizziness .

           blessings
                Shan

--- In [hidden email], "Marjij" <marjij@...> wrote:

Besides this horrible burning head syndrome ...

What I feel from EMF is prickling, like needle stabbing pain in my toe, in my shoulder, then my arm, randomly all over the body. Lately I have been having lots of them on my face and in my eyes. Sometimes it is a quick stabbing pain that makes me yell out. Many times I have to poke the spot with my fingernail or scratch it to make it stop.

When I first got badly sensitive, I had a headache for 3 days and nothing would take it away. Then my arms, from using the keyboard and mouse too long felt like the after effect of getting an electrical shock. It would take 3 or 4 hours for that to subside. If I leave my hand on the mouse I get very bad stabbing pains in my hand.

Also when I first got it, when I went anywhere - to the library, stores, with low hanging fluorescent banks of lights, I got zillions of little prickles all over my upper body.

Sitting by something electric can make one side of face turn red. Sometimes one ear is red, swollen, and feels like it's on fire. Sometimes it is just part of one ear - the top third, the middle or the ear lobe. And sometimes, but not often during the day both ears are red and hot.

All night long while my head is touching the pillow often both ears and both cheeks are burning hot. I take blue ice packs to bed with me and try not to fall asleep on them, but sometimes I do, and that is not a good thing either.

Love is who we are,
Karen

--- In [hidden email], "Marjij" <marjij@...> wrote:

Heres mine -
 
tingling pricking smarting mainly to head/face when exposed to emr for to  
long - I suspect that I am more effected by low frequency spikey  
frequencies.
Brain fog
Memory malfunction especially short term memory
tinitus and hearing loss
fatigue
muscle/joint pain
heart palpitations
Insomnia
visual acuity disrupted
looking stressed tired and unwell especially in office working  environment
anxiety/nervousness not from physiological negative thoughts but  induced
by emr direct to the body as if I am running for my life in slow  motion.
Hyperactivity from the above effecting stress levels
 
there is probably more....
 
 
Puk
 
 
In a message dated 02/09/2012 10:46:36 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email]
 writes:

 
 
 
Besides this horrible burning head syndrome ...

What I feel from EMF  is prickling, like needle stabbing pain in my toe, in
my shoulder, then my  arm, randomly all over the body. Lately I have been
having lots of them on my  face and in my eyes. Sometimes it is a quick
stabbing pain that makes me yell  out. Many times I have to poke the spot with my
fingernail or scratch it to  make it stop.

When I first got badly sensitive, I had a headache for 3  days and nothing
would take it away. Then my arms, from using the keyboard and  mouse too
long felt like the after effect of getting an electrical shock. It  would take
3 or 4 hours for that to subside. If I leave my hand on the mouse I  get
very bad stabbing pains in my hand.

Also when I first got it, when  I went anywhere - to the library, stores,
with low hanging fluorescent banks  of lights, I got zillions of little
prickles all over my upper  body.

Sitting by something electric can make one side of face turn red.  
Sometimes one ear is red, swollen, and feels like it's on fire. Sometimes it  is
just part of one ear - the top third, the middle or the ear lobe. And  
sometimes, but not often during the day both ears are red and hot.

All  night long while my head is touching the pillow often both ears and
both  cheeks are burning hot. I take blue ice packs to bed with me and try not
to  fall asleep on them, but sometimes I do, and that is not a good thing
either.  

Love is who we are,
Karen

--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , "Marjij"  
<marjij@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Karen wrote: "I  could no longer be plagued by this curse of burning up
half the day and all  night long."
>
> I've been reading your messages for months, and  I still don't know how
these EM fields affect you. So many are ill and have to  move, or stay away
from the offending signals. But nobody tells WHAT they  experience and I
don't know if I am being affected or not.
>
>  Like Karen said, above, she is "burning up"... I am too, but I thought
it was  HOT FLASHES and I've been trying to get my doctor to give me hormones
for  them. But I am past menopause, they say, I shouldn't have these
"flashes"...  so I get no help there. So maybe I'm just getting hit by these
signals... not  from my own insides.
>
> Would you guys list a few of your  typical physical effects that make you
need to avoid these fields? I just read  "Dirty Electricity" by Dr. Samuel
Milham, which I think was recommended by  someone on this list. It is
astonishing and horrifying... he says most of the  typical diseases we take for
granted today are caused by dirty electricity.  Breast cancer, testicular
cancer, diabetes, leukemia, ALS, ADHD... the list  goes on and on. I highly
recommend the book.
>
> But you folks  are talking about symptoms that make your ordinary living
unbearable, not just  the usual debilitating diseases we "expect" these
days. I would like to know  what you feel...
>
> Marji
>






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I hope this posts better than it looks here, it's all squished together, sorry.
Hi Marji,
You must have some symptoms that caused you to join this group eh?
Some other symptoms that can be experienced;
Besides instant bad mood, can be deep sadness, not from any reason other than you just got zapped.
Severe overload of the nervous system can leave you in bad shape for hours, which seems to only be relieved by having a good screaming/crying session when you get somewhere you can "degauss" from it, and I think that is exactly what is happening, since we don't have a degauss button.  Personally I experience that most often after having to have medical xrays or a lot of ? whatever it is that is around us, and gets a similar result going. I think it is just in excess of even what can cause the anger or sad feeling, but a much bigger dose.  Other people here have experienced this too, so don't feel alone if it is you too.
The "hot flashes" mentioned, well you can imagine it really isn't that when men are experiencing it too. Just spoke with another post menopausal friend that isn't known to be ES, who has started experiencing this also. It's not like a niacin flush for instance.
The tinnitus that isn't tinnitus, and is being heard all over the country, with varying and sometimes multiple frequencies. Also heard by nonES people.  Sometimes that is felt as a pressure change just before it starts or stops. Had a friend that would say "do you hear that" and I would say no, but I felt it. That was a few years ago, I hear it "all" now.  
It can cause a feeling of tension or pressure all over the body, because of increased voltage.  
There can also be a feeling you're about to pass out, or seizure, or actually having one.
It can cause a rapid change in blood pressure or sugar, up or down.
There can be visual disturbance, seeing sparks of light, or feeling them throughout the body, and swirls and such when you're trying to go to sleep.
Sometimes you can tell the direction it is coming from because of the heat or pressure, and turning around, you then feel it on the then exposed side of head or body.
There can be severe current running through the head, or pressure causing headache, there can be the sensation of a magnetic field, which can cause loss of balance also.
(Put two same poles of some fridge magnets together and play with that, you will get the idea of what that feels like in your head.)
There can be a feeling of being pushed or blown by a wind that is really just a big dizzying wave coming through. Police radar is good at this if it hits you. I was with a nonES friend when she got hit driving one day. Was a real shocker to her.
It can, as mentioned be sharp, and strong enough to make you holler, and I had this happen really bad once by a truck that went by, while sitting at a table with a couple people. It was so strong, but it didn't hit them at all.
Once I was zapped close range by a guy shutting his phone off, that left a spot in my brain feeling cooked for about three months, about the size of a quarter. It felt like if you've ever seen overcooked chicken come out of a microwave, like it just got dessicated.
The symptoms vary with the person and what they're susceptible to, and also what the emission is. Like sonar is different from radar.
Think of musical notes, each one sounds different, and each wavelength/frequency has a different tone, or color, which they actually do, but you're feeling it instead of seeing it or hearing it, though that seems to be changing some!
The body when hit with microwaves is heating, trying to convert it to infrared, which can be good, though how much can a body take?
Fogginess in the head can be caused by this, because it causes deamination (protein breakdown), and coagulation. Protein breakdown produces methane, CO2, nitrogen, and sulfur. Composting basically. Can produce stroke, or stroke like symptoms.
As someone mentioned using NAC recently, that can help with clearing it up some.
I had not made a connection with the having to pee part, but it could sure fit. In fact in the past week, there's been quite a bit of that, and I was wondering why in the heck I had to keep getting up at night, since I hadn't eaten anything diuretic.
So, there is some more symptoms, and I'll bet someone else remembers some more yet.
~ Snoshoe


--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:

 

Excellent
post!

 

I will add
that the feeling of being "oppressed" like something pressing down on
my daughter, was her first complaint.

she didn't
have the words to truly describe this. It is much like divers get, when they go
deep down in the water.

 

When I took
my daughter up north, to a place that had NO cell towers within 4 miles, she
said: "MOM! I can breathe again!"

 

I've come
to the conclusion that this is why the hyber baric oxygen therapy works well
for Essrs. The feeling of the body being

pressed
down, is like some invisible force, pressing down on the cells, so they can't
get enough oxygen.

 

We did a
few sessions of the hyber baric oxygen chambers, and I felt so
"light" after one treatment, it was absolutely amazing.

 

Unfortunately,
this can be pricey and inconveniant as far as having to drive so far.

So I found
the oxygen in a can.....this does work very well.

As to
dizziness, blood sugar dropping, also a common symptom. This is the adrenals
being assaulted by the radiation, as the adrenal

glands
regulate the blood sugar levels.

 

This is
part of the reason adrenal support is necessary. All radiation assualts the
body's immune

system, a
high percentage of essers symtpoms are symptoms of low thyroid and low
adrenals, witht the remaining symptoms being

"radiation
poisoning!"

 

Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 16:59:29 +0000
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      I hope this posts better than it looks here, it's all squished together, sorry.

Hi Marji,

You must have some symptoms that caused you to join this group eh?

Some other symptoms that can be experienced;

Besides instant bad mood, can be deep sadness, not from any reason other than you just got zapped.

Severe overload of the nervous system can leave you in bad shape for hours, which seems to only be relieved by having a good screaming/crying session when you get somewhere you can "degauss" from it, and I think that is exactly what is happening, since we don't have a degauss button.  Personally I experience that most often after having to have medical xrays or a lot of ? whatever it is that is around us, and gets a similar result going. I think it is just in excess of even what can cause the anger or sad feeling, but a much bigger dose.  Other people here have experienced this too, so don't feel alone if it is you too.

The "hot flashes" mentioned, well you can imagine it really isn't that when men are experiencing it too. Just spoke with another post menopausal friend that isn't known to be ES, who has started experiencing this also. It's not like a niacin flush for instance.

The tinnitus that isn't tinnitus, and is being heard all over the country, with varying and sometimes multiple frequencies. Also heard by nonES people.  Sometimes that is felt as a pressure change just before it starts or stops. Had a friend that would say "do you hear that" and I would say no, but I felt it. That was a few years ago, I hear it "all" now.  

It can cause a feeling of tension or pressure all over the body, because of increased voltage.  

There can also be a feeling you're about to pass out, or seizure, or actually having one.

It can cause a rapid change in blood pressure or sugar, up or down.

There can be visual disturbance, seeing sparks of light, or feeling them throughout the body, and swirls and such when you're trying to go to sleep.

Sometimes you can tell the direction it is coming from because of the heat or pressure, and turning around, you then feel it on the then exposed side of head or body.

There can be severe current running through the head, or pressure causing headache, there can be the sensation of a magnetic field, which can cause loss of balance also.

(Put two same poles of some fridge magnets together and play with that, you will get the idea of what that feels like in your head.)

There can be a feeling of being pushed or blown by a wind that is really just a big dizzying wave coming through. Police radar is good at this if it hits you. I was with a nonES friend when she got hit driving one day. Was a real shocker to her.

It can, as mentioned be sharp, and strong enough to make you holler, and I had this happen really bad once by a truck that went by, while sitting at a table with a couple people. It was so strong, but it didn't hit them at all.

Once I was zapped close range by a guy shutting his phone off, that left a spot in my brain feeling cooked for about three months, about the size of a quarter. It felt like if you've ever seen overcooked chicken come out of a microwave, like it just got dessicated.

The symptoms vary with the person and what they're susceptible to, and also what the emission is. Like sonar is different from radar.

Think of musical notes, each one sounds different, and each wavelength/frequency has a different tone, or color, which they actually do, but you're feeling it instead of seeing it or hearing it, though that seems to be changing some!

The body when hit with microwaves is heating, trying to convert it to infrared, which can be good, though how much can a body take?

Fogginess in the head can be caused by this, because it causes deamination (protein breakdown), and coagulation. Protein breakdown produces methane, CO2, nitrogen, and sulfur. Composting basically. Can produce stroke, or stroke like symptoms.

As someone mentioned using NAC recently, that can help with clearing it up some.

I had not made a connection with the having to pee part, but it could sure fit. In fact in the past week, there's been quite a bit of that, and I was wondering why in the heck I had to keep getting up at night, since I hadn't eaten anything diuretic.

So, there is some more symptoms, and I'll bet someone else remembers some more yet.

~ Snoshoe



--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:

>

> Heres mine -

>  

> tingling pricking smarting mainly to head/face when exposed to emr for to  

> long - I suspect that I am more effected by low frequency spikey  

> frequencies.

> Brain fog

> Memory malfunction especially short term memory

> tinitus and hearing loss

> fatigue

> muscle/joint pain

> heart palpitations

> Insomnia

> visual acuity disrupted

> looking stressed tired and unwell especially in office working  environment

> anxiety/nervousness not from physiological negative thoughts but  induced

> by emr direct to the body as if I am running for my life in slow  motion.

> Hyperactivity from the above effecting stress levels

>  

> there is probably more....

>  

>  

> Puk

>  

>  





   
     

   
   






       

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You wonderful people!  I am just blown away by all of your thoroughly explained responses.  So many of them I can relate to, and others I can assign to my son's and daughter's complaints, although they don't believe in any of this "sensitivity" stuff and stay surrounded with wireless equipment.

It's the same as when I tried to point out chemtrails and got the "oh, mother, get serious" look.  With the help of what-the-heck-are-they-spraying, I think I might be developing credibility.  And now, with your comprehensive, intelligently researched responses, I am compiling a list of what you have told me, and will try to get my (adult) kids to shut up, swallow hard and listen!

To add to the list, I read in the "Dirty Electricity" book that people get zapped in their cars and don't know why.  The author had his stetzer equipment running while driving and discovered a strong signal near his left leg and foot... after much research he learned that the metal in the steel-belted radial tires, when rotating at high speeds, creats an em field that zapped him good.  FYI... glad to add something here. I will comment further... am now just absorbing, correlating, and beginning to feel some hope.  Particularly need to learn about the canopy bed.  

Thank you all from my heart... and, my dizzy head, my weak legs, my upset stomach, my overworked bladder, my roasting skin... you know... I get it now!  

Marji    

 

People are starting to Wake Up...finally.I have a new friend who poo poo'd this info.....then after going to a big jazz festival with LOTS of cell phones everywhere..she said she felt like she had a "Radiation Hang Over!"That's how I describe it...no need to drink, just walk in a sea of this stuff, and compare the effects. Dry mouth, head ache, achy limbs, can't focus, boy, talking about driving drunk! Lizzie
 To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 16:45:52 +0000
Subject: [eSens] Re: Am I just beginning to understand?
















 



 


   
     
     
      You wonderful people!  I am just blown away by all of your thoroughly explained responses.  So many of them I can relate to, and others I can assign to my son's and daughter's complaints, although they don't believe in any of this "sensitivity" stuff and stay surrounded with wireless equipment.



It's the same as when I tried to point out chemtrails and got the "oh, mother, get serious" look.  With the help of what-the-heck-are-they-spraying, I think I might be developing credibility.  And now, with your comprehensive, intelligently researched responses, I am compiling a list of what you have told me, and will try to get my (adult) kids to shut up, swallow hard and listen!



To add to the list, I read in the "Dirty Electricity" book that people get zapped in their cars and don't know why.  The author had his stetzer equipment running while driving and discovered a strong signal near his left leg and foot... after much research he learned that the metal in the steel-belted radial tires, when rotating at high speeds, creats an em field that zapped him good.  FYI... glad to add something here. I will comment further... am now just absorbing, correlating, and beginning to feel some hope.  Particularly need to learn about the canopy bed.  



Thank you all from my heart... and, my dizzy head, my weak legs, my upset stomach, my overworked bladder, my roasting skin... you know... I get it now!  



Marji    





   
     

   
   






       

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Yeah, "the bends" or nitrogen narcosis like divers get is a little bit of it, on a much smaller level.

I haven't any real luck with the canned oxygen. I did try an oxygen bar a couple times, which gets pricey quick, but when I was the only one there, she hooked up both machines together, and then I really did feel good for a while after, and that was a 10 min. session.

I wonder if the home oxygen bars can produce the same results?

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

The hyper baric oxygen
chamber therapy worked great. Yes, a bit pricey and the area was heavy

cell towers. I'll tell ya
this though...all those tv actors? The ones who don't do the botox crap?

 

I'm betting they DO the
oxygen chambers. MIchael Jackson was said to have done this therapy too.

 

Don't know this for a fact.
But after having done two sessions in the chambers, which gets oxygen

to the entire body; my
feeling is that THIS is truly the best therapies out there.

 

Side note: the place we went
to, used "walkie talkies" INSIDE to keep contact with office
personnel.

We of course, declined the
use of the wireless gadgets!

 

Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 03:19:54 +0000
Subject: [eSens] Re: Am I just beginning to understand?
















 



 


   
     
     
      Yeah, "the bends" or nitrogen narcosis like divers get is a little bit of it, on a much smaller level.



I haven't any real luck with the canned oxygen. I did try an oxygen bar a couple times, which gets pricey quick, but when I was the only one there, she hooked up both machines together, and then I really did feel good for a while after, and that was a 10 min. session.



I wonder if the home oxygen bars can produce the same results?



~ Snoshoe



--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

>

>

>  

>

> Excellent

> post!

>

>  

>

> I will add

> that the feeling of being "oppressed" like something pressing down on

> my daughter, was her first complaint.

>

> she didn't

> have the words to truly describe this. It is much like divers get, when they go

> deep down in the water.

>

>  

>

> When I took

> my daughter up north, to a place that had NO cell towers within 4 miles, she

> said: "MOM! I can breathe again!"

>

>  

>

> I've come

> to the conclusion that this is why the hyber baric oxygen therapy works well

> for Essrs. The feeling of the body being

>

> pressed

> down, is like some invisible force, pressing down on the cells, so they can't

> get enough oxygen.

>

>  

>

> We did a

> few sessions of the hyber baric oxygen chambers, and I felt so

> "light" after one treatment, it was absolutely amazing.

>

>  

>

> Unfortunately,

> this can be pricey and inconveniant as far as having to drive so far.

>

> So I found

> the oxygen in a can.....this does work very well.

>

> As to

> dizziness, blood sugar dropping, also a common symptom. This is the adrenals

> being assaulted by the radiation, as the adrenal

>

> glands

> regulate the blood sugar levels.

>

>  

>

> This is

> part of the reason adrenal support is necessary. All radiation assualts the

> body's immune

>

> system, a

> high percentage of essers symtpoms are symptoms of low thyroid and low

> adrenals, witht the remaining symptoms being

>

> "radiation

> poisoning!"

>

>  

>

> Lizzie

>





   
     

   
   






       

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Very interesting Ms. Lizzie,
 
Tell me, do you think that this hyper baric oxygen tank is similar to or on par with the iv ozone therapy that I've heard amazing things about?
 
Pamela

--- On Thu, 9/6/12, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Am I just beginning to understand?
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, September 6, 2012, 8:31 AM



 





The hyper baric oxygen
chamber therapy worked great. Yes, a bit pricey and the area was heavy

cell towers. I'll tell ya
this though...all those tv actors? The ones who don't do the botox crap?

I'm betting they DO the
oxygen chambers. MIchael Jackson was said to have done this therapy too.

Don't know this for a fact.
But after having done two sessions in the chambers, which gets oxygen

to the entire body; my
feeling is that THIS is truly the best therapies out there.

Side note: the place we went
to, used "walkie talkies" INSIDE to keep contact with office
personnel.

We of course, declined the
use of the wireless gadgets!

Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 03:19:54 +0000
Subject: [eSens] Re: Am I just beginning to understand?

Yeah, "the bends" or nitrogen narcosis like divers get is a little bit of it, on a much smaller level.

I haven't any real luck with the canned oxygen. I did try an oxygen bar a couple times, which gets pricey quick, but when I was the only one there, she hooked up both machines together, and then I really did feel good for a while after, and that was a 10 min. session.

I wonder if the home oxygen bars can produce the same results?

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Excellent

> post!

>

>

>

> I will add

> that the feeling of being "oppressed" like something pressing down on

> my daughter, was her first complaint.

>

> she didn't

> have the words to truly describe this. It is much like divers get, when they go

> deep down in the water.

>

>

>

> When I took

> my daughter up north, to a place that had NO cell towers within 4 miles, she

> said: "MOM! I can breathe again!"

>

>

>

> I've come

> to the conclusion that this is why the hyber baric oxygen therapy works well

> for Essrs. The feeling of the body being

>

> pressed

> down, is like some invisible force, pressing down on the cells, so they can't

> get enough oxygen.

>

>

>

> We did a

> few sessions of the hyber baric oxygen chambers, and I felt so

> "light" after one treatment, it was absolutely amazing.

>

>

>

> Unfortunately,

> this can be pricey and inconveniant as far as having to drive so far.

>

> So I found

> the oxygen in a can.....this does work very well.

>

> As to

> dizziness, blood sugar dropping, also a common symptom. This is the adrenals

> being assaulted by the radiation, as the adrenal

>

> glands

> regulate the blood sugar levels.

>

>

>

> This is

> part of the reason adrenal support is necessary. All radiation assualts the

> body's immune

>

> system, a

> high percentage of essers symtpoms are symptoms of low thyroid and low

> adrenals, witht the remaining symptoms being

>

> "radiation

> poisoning!"

>

>

>

> Lizzie

>



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Yes, despite my deepest wishes that this will help people and that because of the suffering and increasingly dreadful isolation experienced by Essers I expressed in a previous post that I genuinely hoped that this information would be shared with those who suffer, I too felt a bit like that about what is being proposed here Aimee - to me too it sounded like pyramid - which would be invidious as far as I am concerned to make money off the backs of people who are suffering because of something which in most cases they have little control over and because of the proliferation of unsafe technology which is state sponsored because this is how modern "industry" and economies run and because - in the UK at least - the government makes billions in revenue from the sale of the licences to phone companies and it is the government which is spreading free wifi all over the place in the belief that it will boost businesses - at the expense of people's health.....just
 a thought - we as an ES community are so far very good at helping each other and sharing information with each other. So far as I know no one in the ES community has charged another member of the community for that help or information......

Steph


________________________________
 From: Aimee <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2012, 5:46
Subject: Re: [eSens] Andre's EHS Releasing Method
 

 
"...........you can become part of the team to help
others and this could be your job, where you get paid. Perhaps in the
future there would be an organization with funding to help millions of
people."
 
sounds like Pyramid.... just sayin
Aimee

--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Karen Eck <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Karen Eck <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Andre's EHS Releasing Method
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 4:26 PM

Andre and I spoke on Skype about his method for releasing
electromagnetic fields from the body. I have volunteered to help him
communicate what he hopes to accomplish to help the millions of people
affected by this. Andre speaks very fluent and clear English though he
has difficulty translating English into the written word. He can read
your posts without difficulty. He currently resides in Las Vegas, Nevada
and we will share more specifics about him later.

At this time he does not want to put his EHS releasing method out on a
web page because it has to be done in a very specific way, and he wants
to make himself available for coaching people through it correctly. This
will be free of any charge, except perhaps $5 to buy a certain type of
item. We will work as quickly as possible to make this available to each
person that wishes to give it a try. If you find this method helps you,
you can feel free to send him a donation. If we find this helps 70-80
percent of those that try it, you can become part of the team to help
others and this could be your job, where you get paid. Perhaps in the
future there would be an organization with funding to help millions of
people.

Andre would like to start with an army of people trained to help each
other with this. I am going to get set up to give it a try and then
connect with him for the coaching part through skype. Don't worry if you
don't have Skype. He can buy, for a few dollars a month, a Skype
subscription to call landline phones, and also can get a phone number
that works through skype and people can call from a landline phone, so
you don't have to have skype to get this help. But, hey, Skype is
awesome, I love it!

If you want to get set up for an introduction to the method, email me at
kareneck at eoni dot com with a good time to call and your time zone.
After you hear the instructions, you can decide if you want to give it a
try with Andre's coaching. It will be free to try it. It would be a good
idea if we could set it up somewhat similar to a clinical trial to get
some statistics on what percentage is helped by it, and how much - if
anyone has any experience in that field. I am a Medical Technologist (do
lab blood work, etc.), and thus do have some medical training.

Andre doesn't want to just give out the method online, because it won't
work if not done in a specific order, then people will say it doesn't
work. He is ready and willing to start coaching people to see who can be
helped by it. Send me an email if interested: kareneck at eoni dot com.

Let's not use the words like "cure" and "healing". For the present I
have chosen "releasing."

Love is who we are,
Karen

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That's an easy one Marji

1. When I first became ES I was sensitised because of getting a dect phone and also  the digital pulsed signal being used for TV transmission in the UK when I bought a digital TV and got a digital aerial installed. There could also be a link with the cell masts nearby - the digital aerial could be acting as an antenna to draw their signals to my home - I don't know but that is my gut feeling. I initially experienced a sensation of electric current running up and down my body - it was the most terrifying thing i have ever experienced in my 45 years. I turned the digital aerial off and watched TV in analogue mode - but only for small periods of time to watch the news - in 40 days time the analogue signal will go and there will be no more TV - maybe that's not a bad thing.

2. At about this time I began to get dreadful migraine headaches - combined with a very sore raw throat - always on the right side of the head and neck - I know now that this is ES - since I was using a dect phone at the time [couple of months] and that was the side I used it on - stopped that PDQ!!!! it is back in the box but i still get bit of headache with the analogue phone - wireless anything and 3 and 4 g phones have the same effect of causing pain in those places.

3. I experience a sense of "vibrations" as if all my cells are "pulsing" when they shouldn't be - this is when the ES is at its worst- i am also extremely sensitive to the environment - very windy "electrical stormy" days are bad for me and there is also some link with a full moon causing worse ES symptoms which then abate after the full moon period is over. 

4. I experience dreadful fatigue and nausea at times - I have had ME and FM for over 12 years - it is hard to not make a link with the ES in the background.

5. I get dental pain - my teeth hurt when they shouldn't despite the fact that most of my metal fillings are out. I used to get night sweats - but not so much recently and have problems with my thyroid but the docs tests say my thyroid is normal even though I have the classic symptoms. i have no stress response prob because my adrenal glands are burned out.

I would attribute most of my problems to metals in my body which I need to detox and problems with the detox processes in my body not working as well as they should be causing a build up of toxins and other substances which shouldn't be in there and which are dragging my system down.

Steph



________________________________
 From: Marjij <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2012, 17:25
Subject: [eSens] Am I just beginning to understand?
 

 


Karen wrote:   "I could no longer be plagued by this curse of burning up half the day and all night long."

I've been reading your messages for months, and I still don't know how these EM fields affect you.  So many are ill and have to move, or stay away from the offending signals.  But nobody tells WHAT they experience and I don't know if I am being affected or not.

Like Karen said, above, she is "burning up"... I am too, but I thought it was HOT FLASHES and I've been trying to get my doctor to give me hormones for them.  But I am past menopause, they say, I shouldn't have these "flashes"... so I get no help there.  So maybe I'm just getting hit by these signals... not from my own insides.

Would you guys list a few of your typical physical effects that make you need to avoid these fields?  I just read "Dirty Electricity" by Dr. Samuel Milham, which I think was recommended by someone on this list. It is astonishing and horrifying... he says most of the typical diseases we take for granted today are caused by dirty electricity.  Breast cancer, testicular cancer, diabetes, leukemia, ALS, ADHD... the list goes on and on. I highly recommend the book.

But you folks are talking about symptoms that make your ordinary living unbearable, not just the usual debilitating diseases we "expect" these days. I would like to know what you feel...

Marji


 

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