Amalgam Removal

I am scheduled to get my amalgam fillings removed and trying to
figure out the best way to go.

The dentist wants to do ceramic/porcelain inlays for 5 bigger
fillings and suggests doing it in 2 parts so that I can chew on one
side of my mouth while the inlays are being fabricated (which takes 3
weeks).

So it will be a month between getting the amalgam out of one side of
my mouth and the other.

I realise this isn't ideal as far as mercury detoxification goes and
I've heard that one should start using chelators until all the
mercury is out of one's mouth.

I could get all the amalgam out in one go but that sounds very
stressful.

Would love to hear your thoughts on this. I bet there is something
I'm missing.

Has anyone had all their filling removed in one sitting?

Thanks,
Aline

> Has anyone had all their filling removed in one sitting?

When I had my amalgams replaced, I only had 5 left (previously
had 20, which had gradually been replaced over 15 years). I
had 3 taken out on one day, and 2 the next. I would say that
this was too fast! I was pretty incapacitated from spontaneous
over-detox for the next couple of weeks.

I'd say that waiting a month between sessions is probably better
than waiting a day... :-)

Marc

I recommend spending another $200 for the blood test to see which ceramic
replacement works best for you. I wish I had. I had pain for a year after.
Some have aluminum, etc.
Good luck and glad you are having them removed.
Andrew



Andrew McAfee

Ah - I was wondering about that. The dentist's website says they do
biocompatibility testing but he didn't offer it. Maybe because I am
not allergic to anything else.

Sounds like it would be worth it.

Thanks for the advice.

Aline

In [hidden email], amcafeerr <amcafeerr@...> wrote:

I recommend spending another $200 for the blood test to see which
ceramic replacement works best for you. I wish I had. I had pain for
a year after.
Some have aluminum, etc.
Good luck and glad you are having them removed.
Andrew
>
>
>
> >On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:21:42 -0000 "Aline" <haikuron@...> wrote.
> >I am scheduled to get my amalgam fillings removed and trying to
> >figure out the best way to go.
> >
> >The dentist wants to do ceramic/porcelain inlays for 5 bigger
> >fillings and suggests doing it in 2 parts so that I can chew on
one
> >side of my mouth while the inlays are being fabricated (which
takes 3
> >weeks).
> >
> >So it will be a month between getting the amalgam out of one side
of
> >my mouth and the other.
> >
> >I realise this isn't ideal as far as mercury detoxification goes
and

> Some have aluminum, etc.

Aluminum?

One should try and get metal-free replacements. You don't
want to attract any more EMF than you need to.

Marc

That is interesting to hear, Marc. Did your dentist use supplemental
air as well as a dam and vacuum?

I right in thinking that I should start using chelating agents till all
my fillings are out?

Thanks,
Aline

In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

Has anyone had all their filling removed in one sitting?

When I had my amalgams replaced, I only had 5 left (previously had 20,
which had gradually been replaced over 15 years). I had 3 taken out on
one day, and 2 the next. I would say that this was too fast! I was
pretty incapacitated from spontaneous over-detox for the next couple of
weeks.

I'd say that waiting a month between sessions is probably better
than waiting a day... :-)

Marc

Hi again Andrew,

Are you allergic or chemically sensitive to other things?

I had presumed I would be OK as the only thing I am 'allergic' to is
shitake mushrooms!

Aline

In [hidden email], amcafeerr <amcafeerr@...> wrote:

I recommend spending another $200 for the blood test to see which
ceramic replacement works best for you. I wish I had. I had pain for
a year after.
Some have aluminum, etc.
Good luck and glad you are having them removed.
Andrew

>
>
> >On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:21:42 -0000 "Aline" <haikuron@...> wrote.
> >I am scheduled to get my amalgam fillings removed and trying to
> >figure out the best way to go.
> >
> >The dentist wants to do ceramic/porcelain inlays for 5 bigger
> >fillings and suggests doing it in 2 parts so that I can chew on
one
> >side of my mouth while the inlays are being fabricated (which
takes 3
> >weeks).
> >
> >So it will be a month between getting the amalgam out of one side
of
> >my mouth and the other.
> >
> >I realise this isn't ideal as far as mercury detoxification goes
and

Aline wrote:
> That is interesting to hear, Marc. Did your dentist use supplemental
> air as well as a dam and vacuum?

Err, well, this was 6 years ago... I might have had something over
my nose so that I was breathing air from the hallway... certainly
a dam was used... also I believe that the drill was water-cooled.
As for a vacuum, I think all dentists use those... :-)

> I right in thinking that I should start using chelating agents till all
> my fillings are out?

During the time that the fillings are removed (and a couple weeks afterwards),
it would be best to take things that bind to toxins and keep them moving
out of your system (antioxidants, fiber, water, charcoal, bentonite, etc.).
It's probably not a good idea to take anything that actually mobilizes
stored mercury from your cells into your bloodstream, because your body
has enough to deal with from the mobilized toxins due to the dental work.

Marc

Marc Martin wrote:
I can add, I did get oxygen to breathe through my nose. The change I
requested in the procedure, was to keep the extra vacuum away from me,
as it had a noticeable magnetic field.

For metal removal, I took Chlorella for several months, and have been
taking Microhydrin for many years, very helpful for me.

Stewart

I would not have fillings replaced without having the test to
determine which materials are acceptable to your body.

You might check out Hal Huggins web site too. He has a detox
protocol. I just enrolled in the program. It is a combination of blood
work and hair analysis. Josie


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> For metal removal, I took Chlorella for several months, and have been
> taking Microhydrin for many years, very helpful for me.

Do you still take Microhydrin from Royal Body Care? I used to take
this, but then when the company had a fallout with the inventor
(Patrick Flanagan), I switched to other companies which sell
stuff that is still manufactured by Flanagan. As I understand it,
Royal Body Care attempted to reverse-engineer the formula, so the
stuff that has been sold as "Microhydrin" for the past several years
isn't the same thing as what was originally sold as Microhydrin.
I'm just wondering if the current Microhydrin is as good as it used
to be?

The stuff I use now is from e3live (and is manufactured by
Flanagan):

http://e3live.com/hminus.htm

This would be good stuff to have on hand during amalgam removal...

Marc

> I can add, I did get oxygen to breathe through my nose. The change I
> requested in the procedure, was to keep the extra vacuum away from me,
> as it had a noticeable magnetic field.

Shivani previously mentioned that dentists offices are terrible
places for people with ES, due to the sophisticated electronics
there. I'd say that this isn't necessarily true -- the holistic
dentist I go to currently has an office that could be straight out
of the 1960's (kind of scary, actually!). I have certainly seen
some dentists offices with TV monitors, etc., but not everyone
is using such fancy equipment.

And when I had my amalgams out, the dentist I went to was nice
enough to turn off the fluorescent lights for me... :-)

Marc

Well, I have measured some dental practices, and was flabbergasted by the
amount of elektrosmog.

Especially, the lamp, the dentist uses is a source of enormous elektrosmog,
and he himself stands all day very close to it, with his head.

Furthermore are the (cabled) instruments and the support cabinet an enormous
source.

And the lighting at the ceiling, with several different lamp types as well.

Plus their unavoidable DECT phones.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 19:03
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Amalgam Removal

I talked to the Hal Huggins people and they take the amalgam out in
one sitting (the guy told me that with all their protocols including
intravenous vitamin C that works OK).

Any comments on that?

Aline

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
Aline wrote:
> > That is interesting to hear, Marc. Did your dentist use
supplemental
> > air as well as a dam and vacuum?
>
> Err, well, this was 6 years ago... I might have had something over
> my nose so that I was breathing air from the hallway... certainly
> a dam was used... also I believe that the drill was water-cooled.
> As for a vacuum, I think all dentists use those... :-)
>
> > I right in thinking that I should start using chelating agents
till all
> > my fillings are out?
>
> During the time that the fillings are removed (and a couple weeks
afterwards),
> it would be best to take things that bind to toxins and keep them
moving
> out of your system (antioxidants, fiber, water, charcoal,
bentonite, etc.).
> It's probably not a good idea to take anything that actually
mobilizes
> stored mercury from your cells into your bloodstream, because your
body
> has enough to deal with from the mobilized toxins due to the dental
work.
>
> Marc
>

> I talked to the Hal Huggins people and they take the amalgam out in
> one sitting (the guy told me that with all their protocols including
> intravenous vitamin C that works OK).
>
> Any comments on that?

Yes, that's insane! :-)

That would mean that you'd need novocaine shots on all quadrants of
the mouth, which would mobilize as much toxins into your bloodstream
as possible all at once. You would also be exposed to as much
mercury vapor as much as possible all at once.

I'd say to do one quadrant at a time, for a maximum of 4 appointments.
And wait 3 weeks in between appointments, to give your body a chance
to recover between appointments.

I've not heard much in the way of reports on Vitamin C IV's
one way or the other. I didn't use them (but I did use
Microhydrin, which was advertised as being 1000 times stronger
than Vitamin C)

Marc

Very interesting Marc!
 
I do suspect that dentists can get away with big amalgam removals in one go
because most of the people they deal with are not super-sensitive to
mercury. However, there is fair evidence that people with ES are likely to
be among the most sensitive - so taking extra care sounds a good idea to me.
 
For microhydrin, can you remember what aspect was supposed to be 1000 times
better than Vitamin C? Removing mercury from cells, or mopping it up and
expelling it, or didn't they say? Anyway, it seems like it worked well for
you.
 
Vitamin C is a very good antioxidant, an intravenous dose will allow a large
amount to get directly into the bloodstream, and I think it's claimed that
it also complexes well with mercury and enables it to be excreted more
easily. But I'm not a biochemist so I don't know how effective it really is
at that, though it sounds plausible.
 
Ian

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc
Martin
Sent: 15 August 2007 22:21
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Amalgam Removal



> I talked to the Hal Huggins people and they take the amalgam out in
> one sitting (the guy told me that with all their protocols including
> intravenous vitamin C that works OK).
>
> Any comments on that?

Yes, that's insane! :-)

That would mean that you'd need novocaine shots on all quadrants of
the mouth, which would mobilize as much toxins into your bloodstream
as possible all at once. You would also be exposed to as much
mercury vapor as much as possible all at once.

I'd say to do one quadrant at a time, for a maximum of 4 appointments.
And wait 3 weeks in between appointments, to give your body a chance
to recover between appointments.

I've not heard much in the way of reports on Vitamin C IV's
one way or the other. I didn't use them (but I did use
Microhydrin, which was advertised as being 1000 times stronger
than Vitamin C)

Marc


 


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> I do suspect that dentists can get away with big amalgam removals in one
> go because most of the people they deal with are not super-sensitive to
> mercury. However, there is fair evidence that people with ES are likely
> to be among the most sensitive

Yes. the most likely scenario would be that they'd try to remove all
of your fillings all at once, you'd have a terrible reaction, and they'd
innocently state "we've never seen anyone have such a bad reaction!".
I got that a lot... :-/

> For microhydrin, can you remember what aspect was supposed to be 1000
> times better than Vitamin C?

I can't recall... it was probably just marketing hype, although it
did measure very well on the standard tests they used to measure
antioxidants (ORP, etc.). All I know is that I had no beneficial
reaction to oral Vitamin C, but had obvious beneficial reactions
to Microhydrin (but as I said before, what is currently sold
as 'Microhydrin' is not the same stuff that I was taking 6 years
ago). More energy, less need for sleep, better tolerance for
EMF, etc. I'm still taking the current iteration of this product
6 years later, as I still see benefits in cleaning up after chelators
and
improving tolerance for excessive computer use. I did read
some papers once claiming that it was great for removing
mercury, but in my own experience, I find it rather poor
at mobilizing cellular toxins into the bloodstream. It's good
for neutralizing what's currently in the bloodstream,
which is good for people who still have filling in their
mouth, and for people who are getting their fillings removed.

Marc

> For microhydrin, can you remember what aspect was supposed to be 1000
> times better than Vitamin C?

Doing some Google searches, I found the following passage:

"it is 1000 more potent than Pycnogenol (i.e. an amazing 20,000 times
more than vitamin C and an unbelievable 50,000 times more than
vitamin E!)."

Of course, they make no reference to where they come up with these
figures. :-/

Also, the iteration after Microhydrin ('Mega-H') was supposed to be
4 times more powerful than Microhydrin...

All I know is my own personal reaction has been beneficial, but
like with all things, you need to use some trial & error to find
your optimum dose. (my current dosage is actually quite a bit
less than the recommended dosage, so a bottle of the powder lasts
me about 1 - 2 years... and I do use the powder, not capsules, because
I don't react well to the filler in the capsules)

Marc

Marc Martin wrote:
Hi Marc,
Yes.
Oh, is that what happened.
Well, now that I think about it. I don't know.
I remember clearly when I started getting it in 2001, I got a _big_
energy boost.
This year, I don't see any difference, but I have taken one every
morning for 6+ years, and assumed that was what has been keeping me going.

To further muddy the waters, I did get Mega-Hydrate in June, and didn't
really notice anything different.
This month, I've allowed the Microhydrin to run out, and now am really
wondering which route to take.
Most likely, I'll eventually feel like I need some again, and will then
see a difference.

Stewart

> I remember clearly when I started getting it in 2001, I got a _big_
> energy boost.
> This year, I don't see any difference, but I have taken one every
> morning for 6+ years, and assumed that was what has been keeping me going.

Okay, thanks. Yes, if one takes the same supplement every day for years,
they usually stop noticing the benefits from it after a while, unless they
stop taking it for a while and then start up again.

On the other hand, I'm currently taking the H-minus powder from e3live, which is
MegaHydrate with a different label, and still notice how it will immediately make
me feel better from the after-effects of taking a chelator, or the
effects of sitting in front of a computer all day. But I also noticed
years ago that the effects of the powder mixed in water is much more
obvious than the effects of taking the capsules.

Marc