Advice/Help

>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "lackadaise1234" <lackadaise_1414@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi...I am reaching out to this group because I have been experience some pretty extreme nerve pain from electronics. It has been going on since July and I suspect that it had to to with my ADR from taking a fluroquinolone antibiotic. I get a horrible burning sensation and electrical zap like feelings in my legs. It's horrible. I know that this board is more holistic in its healing approaches but I am willing to take medicine if it will help. I should say that the only thing I have found that helps is benzo's like Ativan. I suspect that they calm down my nervous system in some way. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
> >
>
> Hello,
>
> Here's a post below that I sent back in September, which includes information about a drug I started taking, called pregabalin. I mentioned at the time that I tried it while trying out other things to help my esens, but I do believe that it has helped some of my agitation symptoms. I have no idea whether it is suitable for you to take or if it will have any effects, so be sure to check with a medical professional beforehand if you decide to try out anything like this. The drug is sold by the company here in Ireland as "Lyrica"; if you live in Europe I presume it's the same. I don't know the situation elsewhere.
>
> Here's the post:
>
> Just some thoughts on the ionic footspa and other things.
>
> A couple of months ago I basically decided to try 3 different things to try and
> combat my electrosensitivity that I hadn't tried before: medication, the
> bioprotect card, and an ionic footspa. And thankfully I've had some positive
> results.
>
> When visiting my doctor for a problem unrelated to my electrosensitivity, I had
> been around that time thinking about the immune system as a source of the esens
> problem, so I thought i'd ask him to set up an appointment with an immunologist.
> Now I knew that meeting an immunologist could potentially be a total waste of
> time, but I said I'd try it anyway. However my doctor said that I should go and
> see a neurologist, that my problem may be more related to a nervous system
> problem. Despite my protestations and desire to firstly see an immunologist, I
> eventually went along with what he wanted, so I ended up seeing the neurologist.
>
> Surprisingly, the neurologist actually took me and my esens problem seriously,
> despite never having heard of it, and when I told him that severe agitation was
> one of my symptoms, he speculated that it may be some kind of nervous system
> agitation that is going on for one of my symptoms. I wasn't so sure, and
> discussed my other symptoms. Anyway, he offered to put me on some medication
> that helps nervous system problems such as agitation (It's a drug called Lyrica,
> that is a form of pregabalin (see
> here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregabalin), and is used to treat things such
> as nervouls pain in diabetics and Fibromyalgia), but was honest in his
> assessment that he didn't know the cause and that it was a longshot. Despite my
> being wary about taking medication for this kind of thing, I decided to take a
> punt and try it.
>
> Around the same time I decided to buy a Bioprotect card, and a couple weeks
> later I purchased an ionic footspa off ebay (i.e. I decided to go down the
> Charles route of things, given all his hooha about these in recent times!). Now,
> the footspa was one of those cheap (relative to the expensive Ioncleans ones)
> ones from China, but I didn't have the dosh for the more expensive models, so I
> just said I'd give the cheaper model a go.
>
> Now I know I should have tried these things individually to test their affect
> separately, but I didn't want to wait around, and so tried all three at roughly
> the same time. And I have had some positive results. While I am not cured or
> healed, my resistance to emfs is stronger, and i can stay in wifi areas a lot
> longer than before. Some of my symptoms, such as burning/stinging gums, white
> spots/ulcers on gums, agitated eyes, and sore throat still persist, but are
> nowhere near as persistent or strong, and the time I can spend around emfs
> before symptoms arise is a lot longer. And the agitation has definitely eased. I
> tested it out a couple of times in strong wifi areas (wifi is my main enemy!)
> and I could stay in these areas for far longer than before before some symptoms
> arise.
>
> So to summarize, I definitely haven't `healed' or got rid of the
> electrosensitivity, but I have definitely got better or more resistant. What
> level of influence the footspa or medication have had individually I do not
> know. (I have had about 15- 20 sessions so far with the footspa, with an advised
> 3 week break after 12 sessions). I am going to stop taking the medication for a
> while to see what affect that has, and I have to go back to the neurologist to
> discuss things.
>
> That's just my input into the ionic footspa debate, among other things. I
> generally agree with Marc's and other's viewpoint that everyone's different, and
> what works for one may not work for another. And I obviously don't recommend
> rushing out trying any medication without proper medical advice.
>
> Sean
>

>
> Lyrica is basically an anti-depressant. When I was on remeron (another antidepressant) my symptoms were improved quite a bit. I decided to go off it because it was raising my glucose levels and increases appetite, plus i really didn't want to live on a drug my whole life. However it's nice to know its there in case I get decide its worth it to feel better if i can't handle my increased issues (like Phantosmia which is driving me crazy). IT also helps with insomnia.
> Steve
>
> --- In [hidden email], "seandaly33" <seandaly33@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "lackadaise1234" <lackadaise_1414@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi...I am reaching out to this group because I have been experience some pretty extreme nerve pain from electronics. It has been going on since July and I suspect that it had to to with my ADR from taking a fluroquinolone antibiotic. I get a horrible burning sensation and electrical zap like feelings in my legs. It's horrible. I know that this board is more holistic in its healing approaches but I am willing to take medicine if it will help. I should say that the only thing I have found that helps is benzo's like Ativan. I suspect that they calm down my nervous system in some way. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
> > >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Here's a post below that I sent back in September, which includes information about a drug I started taking, called pregabalin. I mentioned at the time that I tried it while trying out other things to help my esens, but I do believe that it has helped some of my agitation symptoms. I have no idea whether it is suitable for you to take or if it will have any effects, so be sure to check with a medical professional beforehand if you decide to try out anything like this. The drug is sold by the company here in Ireland as "Lyrica"; if you live in Europe I presume it's the same. I don't know the situation elsewhere.
> >
> > Here's the post:
> >
> > Just some thoughts on the ionic footspa and other things.
> >
> > A couple of months ago I basically decided to try 3 different things to try and
> > combat my electrosensitivity that I hadn't tried before: medication, the
> > bioprotect card, and an ionic footspa. And thankfully I've had some positive
> > results.
> >
> > When visiting my doctor for a problem unrelated to my electrosensitivity, I had
> > been around that time thinking about the immune system as a source of the esens
> > problem, so I thought i'd ask him to set up an appointment with an immunologist.
> > Now I knew that meeting an immunologist could potentially be a total waste of
> > time, but I said I'd try it anyway. However my doctor said that I should go and
> > see a neurologist, that my problem may be more related to a nervous system
> > problem. Despite my protestations and desire to firstly see an immunologist, I
> > eventually went along with what he wanted, so I ended up seeing the neurologist.
> >
> > Surprisingly, the neurologist actually took me and my esens problem seriously,
> > despite never having heard of it, and when I told him that severe agitation was
> > one of my symptoms, he speculated that it may be some kind of nervous system
> > agitation that is going on for one of my symptoms. I wasn't so sure, and
> > discussed my other symptoms. Anyway, he offered to put me on some medication
> > that helps nervous system problems such as agitation (It's a drug called Lyrica,
> > that is a form of pregabalin (see
> > here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregabalin), and is used to treat things such
> > as nervouls pain in diabetics and Fibromyalgia), but was honest in his
> > assessment that he didn't know the cause and that it was a longshot. Despite my
> > being wary about taking medication for this kind of thing, I decided to take a
> > punt and try it.
> >
> > Around the same time I decided to buy a Bioprotect card, and a couple weeks
> > later I purchased an ionic footspa off ebay (i.e. I decided to go down the
> > Charles route of things, given all his hooha about these in recent times!). Now,
> > the footspa was one of those cheap (relative to the expensive Ioncleans ones)
> > ones from China, but I didn't have the dosh for the more expensive models, so I
> > just said I'd give the cheaper model a go.
> >
> > Now I know I should have tried these things individually to test their affect
> > separately, but I didn't want to wait around, and so tried all three at roughly
> > the same time. And I have had some positive results. While I am not cured or
> > healed, my resistance to emfs is stronger, and i can stay in wifi areas a lot
> > longer than before. Some of my symptoms, such as burning/stinging gums, white
> > spots/ulcers on gums, agitated eyes, and sore throat still persist, but are
> > nowhere near as persistent or strong, and the time I can spend around emfs
> > before symptoms arise is a lot longer. And the agitation has definitely eased. I
> > tested it out a couple of times in strong wifi areas (wifi is my main enemy!)
> > and I could stay in these areas for far longer than before before some symptoms
> > arise.
> >
> > So to summarize, I definitely haven't `healed' or got rid of the
> > electrosensitivity, but I have definitely got better or more resistant. What
> > level of influence the footspa or medication have had individually I do not
> > know. (I have had about 15- 20 sessions so far with the footspa, with an advised
> > 3 week break after 12 sessions). I am going to stop taking the medication for a
> > while to see what affect that has, and I have to go back to the neurologist to
> > discuss things.
> >
> > That's just my input into the ionic footspa debate, among other things. I
> > generally agree with Marc's and other's viewpoint that everyone's different, and
> > what works for one may not work for another. And I obviously don't recommend
> > rushing out trying any medication without proper medical advice.
> >
> > Sean
> >
>

>
> Hey Sean,
>  
> I am thinking about the ionic foot treatment. Keep us posted about your progress. You gotta plug that thing in though don't ya?  Like the word hooha!  lol Loni
>
> n Fri, 11/12/10, seandaly33 <seandaly33@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: seandaly33 <seandaly33@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Advice/Help
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 6:47 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "lackadaise1234" <lackadaise_1414@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi...I am reaching out to this group because I have been experience some pretty extreme nerve pain from electronics. It has been going on since July and I suspect that it had to to with my ADR from taking a fluroquinolone antibiotic. I get a horrible burning sensation and electrical zap like feelings in my legs. It's horrible. I know that this board is more holistic in its healing approaches but I am willing to take medicine if it will help. I should say that the only thing I have found that helps is benzo's like Ativan. I suspect that they calm down my nervous system in some way. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
> >
>
> Hello,
>
> Here's a post below that I sent back in September, which includes information about a drug I started taking, called pregabalin. I mentioned at the time that I tried it while trying out other things to help my esens, but I do believe that it has helped some of my agitation symptoms. I have no idea whether it is suitable for you to take or if it will have any effects, so be sure to check with a medical professional beforehand if you decide to try out anything like this. The drug is sold by the company here in Ireland as "Lyrica"; if you live in Europe I presume it's the same. I don't know the situation elsewhere.
>
> Here's the post:
>
> Just some thoughts on the ionic footspa and other things.
>
> A couple of months ago I basically decided to try 3 different things to try and
> combat my electrosensitivity that I hadn't tried before: medication, the
> bioprotect card, and an ionic footspa. And thankfully I've had some positive
> results.
>
> When visiting my doctor for a problem unrelated to my electrosensitivity, I had
> been around that time thinking about the immune system as a source of the esens
> problem, so I thought i'd ask him to set up an appointment with an immunologist.
> Now I knew that meeting an immunologist could potentially be a total waste of
> time, but I said I'd try it anyway. However my doctor said that I should go and
> see a neurologist, that my problem may be more related to a nervous system
> problem. Despite my protestations and desire to firstly see an immunologist, I
> eventually went along with what he wanted, so I ended up seeing the neurologist.
>
> Surprisingly, the neurologist actually took me and my esens problem seriously,
> despite never having heard of it, and when I told him that severe agitation was
> one of my symptoms, he speculated that it may be some kind of nervous system
> agitation that is going on for one of my symptoms. I wasn't so sure, and
> discussed my other symptoms. Anyway, he offered to put me on some medication
> that helps nervous system problems such as agitation (It's a drug called Lyrica,
> that is a form of pregabalin (see
> here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregabalin), and is used to treat things such
> as nervouls pain in diabetics and Fibromyalgia), but was honest in his
> assessment that he didn't know the cause and that it was a longshot. Despite my
> being wary about taking medication for this kind of thing, I decided to take a
> punt and try it.
>
> Around the same time I decided to buy a Bioprotect card, and a couple weeks
> later I purchased an ionic footspa off ebay (i.e. I decided to go down the
> Charles route of things, given all his hooha about these in recent times!). Now,
> the footspa was one of those cheap (relative to the expensive Ioncleans ones)
> ones from China, but I didn't have the dosh for the more expensive models, so I
> just said I'd give the cheaper model a go.
>
> Now I know I should have tried these things individually to test their affect
> separately, but I didn't want to wait around, and so tried all three at roughly
> the same time. And I have had some positive results. While I am not cured or
> healed, my resistance to emfs is stronger, and i can stay in wifi areas a lot
> longer than before. Some of my symptoms, such as burning/stinging gums, white
> spots/ulcers on gums, agitated eyes, and sore throat still persist, but are
> nowhere near as persistent or strong, and the time I can spend around emfs
> before symptoms arise is a lot longer. And the agitation has definitely eased. I
> tested it out a couple of times in strong wifi areas (wifi is my main enemy!)
> and I could stay in these areas for far longer than before before some symptoms
> arise.
>
> So to summarize, I definitely haven't `healed' or got rid of the
> electrosensitivity, but I have definitely got better or more resistant. What
> level of influence the footspa or medication have had individually I do not
> know. (I have had about 15- 20 sessions so far with the footspa, with an advised
> 3 week break after 12 sessions). I am going to stop taking the medication for a
> while to see what affect that has, and I have to go back to the neurologist to
> discuss things.
>
> That's just my input into the ionic footspa debate, among other things. I
> generally agree with Marc's and other's viewpoint that everyone's different, and
> what works for one may not work for another. And I obviously don't recommend
> rushing out trying any medication without proper medical advice.
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
> Hey Sean,
>  
> I am thinking about the ionic foot treatment. Keep us posted about your progress. You gotta plug that thing in though don't ya?  Like the word hooha!  lol Loni
>
> n Fri, 11/12/10, seandaly33 <seandaly33@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: seandaly33 <seandaly33@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Advice/Help
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 6:47 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "lackadaise1234" <lackadaise_1414@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi...I am reaching out to this group because I have been experience some pretty extreme nerve pain from electronics. It has been going on since July and I suspect that it had to to with my ADR from taking a fluroquinolone antibiotic. I get a horrible burning sensation and electrical zap like feelings in my legs. It's horrible. I know that this board is more holistic in its healing approaches but I am willing to take medicine if it will help. I should say that the only thing I have found that helps is benzo's like Ativan. I suspect that they calm down my nervous system in some way. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
> >
>
> Hello,
>
> Here's a post below that I sent back in September, which includes information about a drug I started taking, called pregabalin. I mentioned at the time that I tried it while trying out other things to help my esens, but I do believe that it has helped some of my agitation symptoms. I have no idea whether it is suitable for you to take or if it will have any effects, so be sure to check with a medical professional beforehand if you decide to try out anything like this. The drug is sold by the company here in Ireland as "Lyrica"; if you live in Europe I presume it's the same. I don't know the situation elsewhere.
>
> Here's the post:
>
> Just some thoughts on the ionic footspa and other things.
>
> A couple of months ago I basically decided to try 3 different things to try and
> combat my electrosensitivity that I hadn't tried before: medication, the
> bioprotect card, and an ionic footspa. And thankfully I've had some positive
> results.
>
> When visiting my doctor for a problem unrelated to my electrosensitivity, I had
> been around that time thinking about the immune system as a source of the esens
> problem, so I thought i'd ask him to set up an appointment with an immunologist.
> Now I knew that meeting an immunologist could potentially be a total waste of
> time, but I said I'd try it anyway. However my doctor said that I should go and
> see a neurologist, that my problem may be more related to a nervous system
> problem. Despite my protestations and desire to firstly see an immunologist, I
> eventually went along with what he wanted, so I ended up seeing the neurologist.
>
> Surprisingly, the neurologist actually took me and my esens problem seriously,
> despite never having heard of it, and when I told him that severe agitation was
> one of my symptoms, he speculated that it may be some kind of nervous system
> agitation that is going on for one of my symptoms. I wasn't so sure, and
> discussed my other symptoms. Anyway, he offered to put me on some medication
> that helps nervous system problems such as agitation (It's a drug called Lyrica,
> that is a form of pregabalin (see
> here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregabalin), and is used to treat things such
> as nervouls pain in diabetics and Fibromyalgia), but was honest in his
> assessment that he didn't know the cause and that it was a longshot. Despite my
> being wary about taking medication for this kind of thing, I decided to take a
> punt and try it.
>
> Around the same time I decided to buy a Bioprotect card, and a couple weeks
> later I purchased an ionic footspa off ebay (i.e. I decided to go down the
> Charles route of things, given all his hooha about these in recent times!). Now,
> the footspa was one of those cheap (relative to the expensive Ioncleans ones)
> ones from China, but I didn't have the dosh for the more expensive models, so I
> just said I'd give the cheaper model a go.
>
> Now I know I should have tried these things individually to test their affect
> separately, but I didn't want to wait around, and so tried all three at roughly
> the same time. And I have had some positive results. While I am not cured or
> healed, my resistance to emfs is stronger, and i can stay in wifi areas a lot
> longer than before. Some of my symptoms, such as burning/stinging gums, white
> spots/ulcers on gums, agitated eyes, and sore throat still persist, but are
> nowhere near as persistent or strong, and the time I can spend around emfs
> before symptoms arise is a lot longer. And the agitation has definitely eased. I
> tested it out a couple of times in strong wifi areas (wifi is my main enemy!)
> and I could stay in these areas for far longer than before before some symptoms
> arise.
>
> So to summarize, I definitely haven't `healed' or got rid of the
> electrosensitivity, but I have definitely got better or more resistant. What
> level of influence the footspa or medication have had individually I do not
> know. (I have had about 15- 20 sessions so far with the footspa, with an advised
> 3 week break after 12 sessions). I am going to stop taking the medication for a
> while to see what affect that has, and I have to go back to the neurologist to
> discuss things.
>
> That's just my input into the ionic footspa debate, among other things. I
> generally agree with Marc's and other's viewpoint that everyone's different, and
> what works for one may not work for another. And I obviously don't recommend
> rushing out trying any medication without proper medical advice.
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>  I have been using a 10 year old low-radiation cell-phone by Nokia with a
> low EMF headset, and haven't had problems with headaches or other
> symptoms.
>
> Yesterday, I got a letter from AT&T saying that my old cell is no
> longer being supported, and that I will be forced to buy one of the new
> modern cell phones in a few months.
>
> I am in a complete panic at the moment.  Even if I find a good headset
> to reduce radiation, these phones still generate a lot of wi-fi signals
> and high levels of EMF and radiation levels that I know will make me
> sick.
>
> Can anyone give me any advice?  Can anyone recommend a wi-fi free low
> radiation cell phone on the market which I might be able to tolerate?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ace
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

>
>
>  I have been using a 10 year old low-radiation cell-phone by Nokia with a
> low EMF headset, and haven't had problems with headaches or other
> symptoms.
>
> Yesterday, I got a letter from AT&T saying that my old cell is no
> longer being supported, and that I will be forced to buy one of the new
> modern cell phones in a few months.
>
> I am in a complete panic at the moment.  Even if I find a good headset
> to reduce radiation, these phones still generate a lot of wi-fi signals
> and high levels of EMF and radiation levels that I know will make me
> sick.
>
> Can anyone give me any advice?  Can anyone recommend a wi-fi free low
> radiation cell phone on the market which I might be able to tolerate?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ace
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>