A FunnyTale About EMF Detox Symptoms..

Hi folks:

I have for you a funny tale about detox symptoms from EMF
coherence-type devices... As many of you may know, I work from home,
and I have a very nice (but messy) laboratory and also a fabrication
shop set up in two rooms in my home to support my R&D work in several
health-related fields. And, as you may remember from my earlier
tales, when I first created my latest generation of Quantum Coherence
devices here in April, May and early June of this year, Sue and I
experienced some brief and transient cleansing and detox reactions
during the first few weeks that the devices were operating. And then,
as I developed my Gamma Effect devices, and the Negentropic Field
Effect devices, and finally, the Violet Light technology, Sue and I
experienced some further cleansing symptoms during the first few
weeks that they were running in the house, but it all finally abated.
Now, since at any one moment, my home and lab contain about ten to
twenty of my devices, most of them turned on and running full time,
it is actually a bit amazing that Sue and I are free of detox
effects, but we normally are! And so, I had been taking the
disappearance of the earlier transient detox effects for granted...
and then...

Suddenly, over the past few days, I have noticed a few very
unexpected but mild cleansing symptoms occurring in my body, and I
also noticed that my elderly beagle Toby suddenly needed to go
outside to pee much more often than usual, and has, for the past few
nights, been waking me up at around 2 or 3 AM to take him outside (so
that he can pee.) Now, this is all a bit unusual, and finally this
morning, as I was sitting here at my PC, the reason hit me.... and it
dawned upon me that Toby and I have been having some mild cleansing
reactions. And, the reason this time was not one of my devices...!
Rather, it was another device..... As you may know from my previous
mentions, I do some R&D consulting work for a few companies that
produce very high-end coherence type devices; most of these devices
are rather high-powered and are intended only for commercial and
industrial settings, meaning that they are designed for optimal
effects opon machinery and electronic equipment, and they are not
intended for use by or for humans, as the effects have been optimized
for industrial and commercial electronic equipment. Most of these
devices from these vendors can be likened to industrial versions of
the Quantum Pro from Quantum Products (www.quantumproducts.com) as
they are quite similar to that technology -- although produced by
different vendors than QP -- in that they use a combination of intent
programming (applied via special treatment material treatment fields)
plus various "magical" frequencies (usually in the audio range)
applied to special subtle-energy antennae. I suddenly realized this
morning that I have been running a very powerful industrial coherence
device, which had been sent to me by one of these
commercial/industrial-sector "coherence" companies, in my lab for the
past three days as I perform tests on it, and thus it has been turned
on for 24 hours per day (this is in addition to all my other devices
which are running all the time!) and it has been driving one of my
coherence antennas instead of its normal internal subtle-energy
antenna. It just so happens that the magical frequencies used for the
industrial coherence treatment are harmless to humans, and a few of
those frequencies used are actually very beneficial to humans, and
thus I had no reservations about leaving such a powerful industrial
device turned on for so long in my home lab. However, I realized,
with a start, this morning that the device has been causing some
cleansing symptoms for me and for my beagle since it has been
running! My wife has not noticed any particular cleansing effects,
and our 10-year old cat (who never seems to exhibit detox; then
again, she ingests a lot of EM) has not exhibited any effects, but
Toby and I have definitely been showing some effects! The effects are
mild, and they will not cause me to turn off the device (in fact,
another similar device arrived here today), but I am still a bit
amused to have noticed the effect!

with care,
--Vinny


Vinny Pinto
[hidden email]

phone 301-694-1249

To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to:
http://www.vinnypinto.us

Vinny,
 
And what effects, if any, has all of your devices had on your beloved chicken?
Phyllicia

Vinny Pinto <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi folks:
 
I have for you a funny tale about detox symptoms from EMF
coherence-type devices... As many of you may know, I work from home,
and I have a very nice (but messy) laboratory and also a fabrication
shop set up in two rooms in my home to support my R&D work in several
health-related fields. And, as you may remember from my earlier
tales, when I first created my latest generation of Quantum Coherence
devices here in April, May and early June of this year, Sue and I
experienced some brief and transient cleansing and detox reactions
during the first few weeks that the devices were operating. And then,
as I developed my Gamma Effect devices, and the Negentropic Field
Effect devices, and finally, the Violet Light technology, Sue and I
experienced some further cleansing symptoms during the first few
weeks that they were running in the house, but it all finally abated.
Now, since at any one moment, my home and lab contain about ten to
twenty of my devices, most of them turned on and running full time,
it is actually a bit amazing that Sue and I are free of detox
effects, but we normally are! And so, I had been taking the
disappearance of the earlier transient detox effects for granted...
and then...
 
Suddenly, over the past few days, I have noticed a few very
unexpected but mild cleansing symptoms occurring in my body, and I
also noticed that my elderly beagle Toby suddenly needed to go
outside to pee much more often than usual, and has, for the past few
nights, been waking me up at around 2 or 3 AM to take him outside (so
that he can pee.) Now, this is all a bit unusual, and finally this
morning, as I was sitting here at my PC, the reason hit me.... and it
dawned upon me that Toby and I have been having some mild cleansing
reactions. And, the reason this time was not one of my devices...!
Rather, it was another device..... As you may know from my previous
mentions, I do some R&D consulting work for a few companies that
produce very high-end coherence type devices; most of these devices
are rather high-powered and are intended only for commercial and
industrial settings, meaning that they are designed for optimal
effects opon machinery and electronic equipment, and they are not
intended for use by or for humans, as the effects have been optimized
for industrial and commercial electronic equipment. Most of these
devices from these vendors can be likened to industrial versions of
the Quantum Pro from Quantum Products (www.quantumproducts.com) as
they are quite similar to that technology -- although produced by
different vendors than QP -- in that they use a combination of intent
programming (applied via special treatment material treatment fields)
plus various "magical" frequencies (usually in the audio range)
applied to special subtle-energy antennae. I suddenly realized this
morning that I have been running a very powerful industrial coherence
device, which had been sent to me by one of these
commercial/industrial-sector "coherence" companies, in my lab for the
past three days as I perform tests on it, and thus it has been turned
on for 24 hours per day (this is in addition to all my other devices
which are running all the time!) and it has been driving one of my
coherence antennas instead of its normal internal subtle-energy
antenna. It just so happens that the magical frequencies used for the
industrial coherence treatment are harmless to humans, and a few of
those frequencies used are actually very beneficial to humans, and
thus I had no reservations about leaving such a powerful industrial
device turned on for so long in my home lab. However, I realized,
with a start, this morning that the device has been causing some
cleansing symptoms for me and for my beagle since it has been
running! My wife has not noticed any particular cleansing effects,
and our 10-year old cat (who never seems to exhibit detox; then
again, she ingests a lot of EM) has not exhibited any effects, but
Toby and I have definitely been showing some effects! The effects are
mild, and they will not cause me to turn off the device (in fact,
another similar device arrived here today), but I am still a bit
amused to have noticed the effect!
 
with care,
--Vinny
 
Vinny Pinto
[hidden email]
 
phone 301-694-1249
 
To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to:
http://www.vinnypinto.us
 
 
     
 

 
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Hi Vinny,
 
Perhaps this company should market this device to those who have a problem with edema. It sounds as though it is easier on the system than diuretics.
Phyllicia
Vinny Pinto <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi folks:
 
I have for you a funny tale about detox symptoms from EMF
coherence-type devices...  
and then...
 
Suddenly, over the past few days, I have noticed a few very
unexpected but mild cleansing symptoms occurring in my body, and I
also noticed that my elderly beagle Toby suddenly needed to go
outside to pee much more often than usual, and has, for the past few
nights, been waking me up at around 2 or 3 AM to take him outside (so
that he can pee.) Now, this is all a bit unusual, and finally this
morning, as I was sitting here at my PC, the reason hit me.... and it
dawned upon me that Toby and I have been having some mild cleansing
reactions. And, the reason this time was not one of my devices...!
Rather, it was another device.....
with care,
--Vinny
 
Vinny Pinto
[hidden email]
 
phone 301-694-1249
 
To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to:
http://www.vinnypinto.us
 
 
     
 

 
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Hi Phyllicia:

Well, the increased frequency of urination is a very common --but
very temporary -- cleansing or detox symptom often seen with or in
many systems/traditions or methods (i.e., acupuncture, herbal
remedies, deep bodywork, tissue cleansing, raw food diets, heavy
metal detox methods, area treatment EMF protective devices, use of EM
liquid), but is very temporary and short-lived. In the case of my
adorable beagle Toby, it lasted five days and nights, and then
passed. My own detox symptoms lasted about the same length of time! I
then (yesterday) found a way to go into a nice detox again for a few
hours, using yet a higher-powered version of that device plus one of
my coherers/antennas, and I needed a very long nap! ....How fun! >:-} :-) :-P

with care,
--Vinny

At 03:35 PM 10/14/2006, you wrote:


Vinny Pinto
[hidden email]

phone 301-694-1249

To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to:
http://www.vinnypinto.us

Hi Phyllicia:

...sigh! :-( First, of all, Samantha is NOT a generic "chicken", but
rather, she is a very exotic and gorgeous and beautiful and slinky
and adorable Barred Plymouth Rock hen! And, I feel very ashamed :-[
;-), because even though everyone on all of the list groups that I
own and (everyone who watched the Jerry Springer show entitled Men
Who Dote on Barred Plymouth Rock Hens and the Hens Who Love Them),
knows about Samantha, I DO try to keep it a secret outside of those
realms, and thus I was horrified this afternoon :-[ to see that you
have brashly gone ahead and exposed my secret here on this list
group, where I was REEAALLLLLLY trying my best to act normal! :-) sigh! :-(

In any case, thank you for asking about Sammie, and Samantha is still
recovering nicely from the 13 months that she spent in captivity in
the dingy apartment of her evil kidnapper in Missouri, and she and
the other 55 chickens, Bantams, ducks, geese, guinea fowl and turkeys
are all doing well as they bathe daily in the fields from the fifteen
or so devices running non-stop here at my remote mountain home and
lab in the wilderness! :-)

Please, whatever you do, even though you have ALREADY exposed my
secret life with Samantha, PLEASE do not mention here the fact that I
am on the payroll of the reptoid reptilians and the alien grays; a
man deserves to have at least a few secrets, you know!

with care,
--Vinny

At AM 10/14/2006, you wrote:

Vinny Pinto
[hidden email]

phone 301-694-1249

To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to:
http://www.vinnypinto.us

--- In [hidden email], Vinny Pinto <vinny@...> wrote:
>
> Hi folks:
>
> I have for you a funny tale about detox symptoms from EMF
> coherence-type devices... As many of you may know, I work from
home,
> and I have a very nice (but messy) laboratory and also a
fabrication
> shop set up in two rooms in my home to support my R&D work in
several
> health-related fields. And, as you may remember from my earlier
> tales, when I first created my latest generation of Quantum
Coherence
> devices here in April, May and early June of this year, Sue and I
> experienced some brief and transient cleansing and detox reactions
> during the first few weeks that the devices were operating. And
then,
> as I developed my Gamma Effect devices, and the Negentropic Field
> Effect devices, and finally, the Violet Light technology, Sue and I
> experienced some further cleansing symptoms during the first few
> weeks that they were running in the house, but it all finally
abated. few
> nights, been waking me up at around 2 or 3 AM to take him outside
(so
> that he can pee.) Now, this is all a bit unusual, and finally this
> morning, as I was sitting here at my PC, the reason hit me.... and
it
> dawned upon me that Toby and I have been having some mild cleansing
> reactions. And, the reason this time was not one of my devices...!
> Rather, it was another device..... As you may know from my previous
> mentions, I do some R&D consulting work for a few companies that
> produce very high-end coherence type devices; most of these devices
> are rather high-powered and are intended only for commercial and
> industrial settings, meaning that they are designed for optimal
> effects opon machinery and electronic equipment, and they are not
> intended for use by or for humans, as the effects have been
optimized
> for industrial and commercial electronic equipment. Most of these
> devices from these vendors can be likened to industrial versions of
> the Quantum Pro from Quantum Products (www.quantumproducts.com) as
> they are quite similar to that technology -- although produced by
> different vendors than QP -- in that they use a combination of
intent
> programming (applied via special treatment material treatment
fields)
> plus various "magical" frequencies (usually in the audio range)
> applied to special subtle-energy antennae. I suddenly realized this
> morning that I have been running a very powerful industrial
coherence
> device, which had been sent to me by one of these
> commercial/industrial-sector "coherence" companies, in my lab for
the
> past three days as I perform tests on it, and thus it has been
turned
> on for 24 hours per day (this is in addition to all my other
devices
> which are running all the time!) and it has been driving one of my
> coherence antennas instead of its normal internal subtle-energy
> antenna. It just so happens that the magical frequencies used for
the are to:
> http://www.vinnypinto.us
>

Hi Vinny, I'm just wondering if it's possible that these symptoms
that you and your dog are having could be a negative reaction to
these devices rather than detox symptoms. Are these devices stopping
electric fields from harming people, because I gather magnetic fields
can't be stopped?

I have a screen filter on my computer which stops 99% of vlf and elf
electric fields but although it has helped I still have alot of
problems using the computer and can't watch TV (mainly because there
are no filters on them. So do you think these devices you make could
help reduce my symptoms? By thw way these symptoms include ears
ringing 24 hours a day, computer monitor looking alot brighter than
normal with screen brightness even only at 50% and after long
computer use it looks really bright on all brightness levels and my
eyes ache, tingling feeling in head and ears and sensitivity to
outside bright light if I go outside soon after computer use.

from Richard G

Hi Richard:

Comments inserted interlined below!

At 02:24 PM 10/15/2006, you wrote:
>Hi Vinny, I'm just wondering if it's possible that these symptoms
>that you and your dog are having could be a negative reaction to
>these devices rather than detox symptoms.

In this case, the symptoms were classic and familiar detox symptoms
for me, and were also temporary, lasting only a few days, as is
common for detox symptoms.

>Are these devices stopping
>electric fields from harming people, because I gather magnetic fields
>can't be stopped?

For a description from my perspective of what such area treatment
"quantum quieting" devices do, please see my recent discusions on
that topic in my past posts (to this forum, now in the archives) over
the past week or so.

>I have a screen filter on my computer which stops 99% of vlf and elf
>electric fields but although it has helped I still have alot of
>problems using the computer and can't watch TV (mainly because there
>are no filters on them. So do you think these devices you make could
>help reduce my symptoms?

No, I doubt it. Please see my earlier posts to this forum (and on
FAQ page on my website) wherein I relate why I do not market my
prototype devices to people with moderate to strong ES, but rather to
researchers and experimenters who are largely healthy.

You may wish to look into some of the mercury relief nutritional
supplements, particularly NDF from Bioray. Or you may wish to see my
suggestions regarding what I would do (i.e., nutritional supplements,
minerals, treace elements, antioxidants) if faced with similar
problems, posted in an earlier post to this list group about 6 weeks ago.

I wish you the best with your challenges in using monitors and TV sets!

with care,
--Vinny

>


Vinny Pinto
[hidden email]

phone 301-694-1249

To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to:
http://www.vinnypinto.us

Hi Vinny,

Sorry to blow your cover...not really. Smile. It just makes you more loveable.
Phyllicia

Vinny Pinto <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Phyllicia:

...sigh! :-( First, of all, Samantha is NOT a generic "chicken", but
rather, she is a very exotic and gorgeous and beautiful and slinky
and adorable Barred Plymouth Rock hen! And, I feel very ashamed :-[
;-), because even though everyone on all of the list groups that I
own and (everyone who watched the Jerry Springer show entitled Men
Who Dote on Barred Plymouth Rock Hens and the Hens Who Love Them),
knows about Samantha, I DO try to keep it a secret outside of those
realms, and thus I was horrified this afternoon :-[ to see that you
have brashly gone ahead and exposed my secret here on this list
group, where I was REEAALLLLLLY trying my best to act normal! :-) sigh! :-(

In any case, thank you for asking about Sammie, and Samantha is still
recovering nicely from the 13 months that she spent in captivity in
the dingy apartment of her evil kidnapper in Missouri, and she and
the other 55 chickens, Bantams, ducks, geese, guinea fowl and turkeys
are all doing well as they bathe daily in the fields from the fifteen
or so devices running non-stop here at my remote mountain home and
lab in the wilderness! :-)



with care,
--Vinny

At AM 10/14/2006, you wrote:
>Vinny,
>
> And what effects, if any, has all of your devices had on your
> beloved chicken?
> Phyllicia
>
>Vinny Pinto <[hidden email]>
>wrote: Hi folks:










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Hi Phyllicia:

EEEK! :-( X;{





:-P >:-} :-)

with care,
--Vinny

At 11:40 PM 10/16/2006, you wrote:

Vinny Pinto
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phone 301-694-1249

To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to:
http://www.vinnypinto.us

I know someone will tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about here. But I experience the same thing. I have a grounded screen filter from LESS EMF and I still get the burning. What helped was when I also bought a cheap ungrounded glare screen and placed it between the other screen and the monitor. Don't know why it makes a difference but it does. You can get one for ten bucks or so. I also have a monitor that is LCD and does not giveoff any readings on my trifield meter unlike other LCD monitors that may have transformers in them. The transformer on mine is on the cord far away from the monitor.
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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: A FunnyTale About EMF Detox Symptoms..


Richard et al,

I have some of these symptoms. Ear ringing (for me) seems to be
primarily related to cerebral inflammation. Screen too bright and eye
ache is (for me) a sure sign of a vitamin A deficiency.

Screen flicker makes the eyes work extra hard and uses up vitamin A (or
so I've heard and it fits with my own experience), so perhaps your
symptoms are actually more about nutrient levels than EMF. Or maybe
it's all too closely linked to make distinguishing between them useful.

Am I making sense? I need some Coherent Space inside my brain today. %-)

Emma

P.S. I've been trying to figure out if something that happens to me is
what some of you mean when you talk about face burning. I occasionally
get something that's maybe a sort of inflammation in my face, primarily
the cheeks. It feels hot and tight. There are two types, one is
definitely inflammation, the other I'm not so sure about. I think that
both occur primarily when my body is in detox mode.



   

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Hello Denom,

monitors do emit several kinds of elektrosmog.

- One may have electrical AC fields (must be below TCO norms; 5Hz - 2 kHz
and from 2 kHz - 400 kHz).
- One may have electrical DC static fields. I once measured LCD screens in
a computer shop, and found that the cheapest screens had 0 V/m, while the
expensive ones showed some 3600 V/m.
- And there are magnetic AC fields (must be below TCO norms).
- Last but not least there are electromagnetic fields, mostly around 30 kHz
(between 5 kHz and 150 kHz)

So each of these sources may bother you. Shielding only one does not mean
that the others are shielded also.
Trust your own feelings; they are better than the Trifield meter, which is
limited.
Be also aware, that although a meter may show weak signals, electrosensibles
may have reactions to very, very weak signals, depending on their own
*biological window*.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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