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yarnspinner30@ymail.com
any suggestions on where to stay when need time away from home.
When stayed at a hotel last felt like allergies and worse clogged.
Live in southern california and was going to take the bus or train, or maybe rent a car.
Thanks for any ideas
Lynn D


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Marc Martin
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On June 25, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> any suggestions on where to stay when need time away from home.
> When stayed at a hotel last felt like allergies and worse clogged.
> Live in southern california and was going to take the bus or train, or maybe rent a car.
> Thanks for any ideas

The beach?  A wooded park?

Marc
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Patricia
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lynn, this is an idea... take your emf meter
with you, wherever you go.
i was in a hotel and could not sleep.  
i got out my meter and it read HIGH under
the bed.  i called the front desk to ask if they
heated the beds... the clerk said that right
under my room was a big kitchen with big
appliances.  she moved me to a room FAR
away from all electrical hubs and there,  
i slept well.  
but even if you are in a campground, take
your meter and test for safe places BEFORE
you try to go to sleep.  
i also take a negative ion generator and let
it clear the air in the room before i settle in.
go to dinner or something while it is doing
its work...  tho there are some hotels that
no longer use strong chemicals... thank
goodness.  busses use strong chemicals...
trains are not so bad.  and the other day i
saw a negative ion generator that works
from a cigarette lighter in a car...  clean
air, clean water, clean food, zero radiation.  
human bodies are simple and need little.  
but they do need what little they need.
love, patricia


On Jun 25, 2013, at 8:26 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> any suggestions on where to stay when need time away from home.
> When stayed at a hotel last felt like allergies and worse clogged.
> Live in southern california and was going to take the bus or train, or maybe rent a car.
> Thanks for any ideas
> Lynn D
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Re: vacation or trip

grammie2304

Could you share resources where to buy these items?

Is there any way to protect us from the smart meter....besides fighting city hall?


God Bless,
Sara
--- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett <patricia@...> wrote:

>
> lynn, this is an idea... take your emf meter
> with you, wherever you go.
> i was in a hotel and could not sleep.  
> i got out my meter and it read HIGH under
> the bed.  i called the front desk to ask if they
> heated the beds... the clerk said that right
> under my room was a big kitchen with big
> appliances.  she moved me to a room FAR
> away from all electrical hubs and there,  
> i slept well.  
> but even if you are in a campground, take
> your meter and test for safe places BEFORE
> you try to go to sleep.  
> i also take a negative ion generator and let
> it clear the air in the room before i settle in.
> go to dinner or something while it is doing
> its work...  tho there are some hotels that
> no longer use strong chemicals... thank
> goodness.  busses use strong chemicals...
> trains are not so bad.  and the other day i
> saw a negative ion generator that works
> from a cigarette lighter in a car...  clean
> air, clean water, clean food, zero radiation.  
> human bodies are simple and need little.  
> but they do need what little they need.
> love, patricia
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2013, at 8:26 PM, yarnspinner30@... wrote:
>
> > any suggestions on where to stay when need time away from home.
> > When stayed at a hotel last felt like allergies and worse clogged.
> > Live in southern california and was going to take the bus or train, or maybe rent a car.
> > Thanks for any ideas
> > Lynn D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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yarnspinner30@ymail.com
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Thank you Marc and Patricia
Had thought of camping but cant carry much, am still needing
to gain weight and more muscle. Last week noticed hurt to
have arm at side (not the usual muscle , tendons,joints pain), and looked it was just very bony elbow into ribs . so was needing to eat even more food then usual. The Dr after preventive ck up said to go to a hematologist as high monocytes(for 15yrs),low platelets (wonder if there clumping so really are more of them),high MCV and MPV.
will try to find an ion generator (when did testing ozone instruments did not like the air put out), but would be nice it it make a hotel room feel better, from allergies.
Marc the ocean sounds so nice to visit right now.
Maybe can get my brother to take the camping stuff to a park near him and I can take the bus (his HOnda car is 2 seater hybrid and very stinky of cigaretts and used as a closet)
Someone told me there are cabins at a beach will ck out.
Thanks again
Lynn D

--- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett <patricia@...> wrote:

>
> lynn, this is an idea... take your emf meter
> with you, wherever you go.
> i was in a hotel and could not sleep.  
> i got out my meter and it read HIGH under
> the bed.  i called the front desk to ask if they
> heated the beds... the clerk said that right
> under my room was a big kitchen with big
> appliances.  she moved me to a room FAR
> away from all electrical hubs and there,  
> i slept well.  
> but even if you are in a campground, take
> your meter and test for safe places BEFORE
> you try to go to sleep.  
> i also take a negative ion generator and let
> it clear the air in the room before i settle in.
> go to dinner or something while it is doing
> its work...  tho there are some hotels that
> no longer use strong chemicals... thank
> goodness.  busses use strong chemicals...
> trains are not so bad.  and the other day i
> saw a negative ion generator that works
> from a cigarette lighter in a car...  clean
> air, clean water, clean food, zero radiation.  
> human bodies are simple and need little.  
> but they do need what little they need.
> love, patricia
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2013, at 8:26 PM, yarnspinner30@... wrote:
>
> > any suggestions on where to stay when need time away from home.
> > When stayed at a hotel last felt like allergies and worse clogged.
> > Live in southern california and was going to take the bus or train, or maybe rent a car.
> > Thanks for any ideas
> > Lynn D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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Marc Martin
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On June 27, grammie2304 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Is there any way to protect us from the smart meter....besides fighting city hall?

Previously someone posted a link to a company that sold mesh wire shielding
to put around the meter.  I can't recall if anyone here has tried this and it
made any difference?

Others have suggested putting shielding on the wall behind the meter
to reflect it away from the house.  Also, can't recall how this worked out.

My first thought would be to put some kind of EMF protection device on
(or next to) the meter itself, but so far we don't have smart meters here
for me to try this out.

Marc

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Patricia
In reply to this post by grammie2304
i got my meter - called a 'ghost meter' but it
compares favorably with every other meter
i've used and that the power company rep
used in my condo - at amazon.com -
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ZH7G1E/sr=1-1/qid=1372370803/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1372370803&seller=&sr=1-1

the negative ion generator i have now was
purchased at - http://www.negativeiongenerators.com/
i have one of the 'happy machines' in basic black.  

these tools have served me well for years.  
i think we need to fight city hall - and the power
companies - go to their meetings and tell them
the drawbacks of their 'smart' meters.  the town
where i live - columbia MO - has evaluated them
and decided that the benefits do not outweigh the
drawbacks.  you can look to see what swayed their
decision if you google 'smart meters columbia missouri' -
smart cities don't install 'smart' meters - the name
is a sales handle - to make people feel 'smart' if
they align themselves with 'smart meters'.  
tee hee.  public relations manipulations don't work
on me... i call them 'stoopid meters'.   :)  

i just found out that we have a smart meter here
on the land where i live out in an 'idyllic' setting...
the power company said that it is read once a
month when a guy drives by and waves a wand at
it.  that's a lot better than every 5 minutes, as i had
feared.  but the farm's solar is sold to the power
company and i guess it needs to be measured as
energy goes to the power company and also as
utility company power is utilized here.  every since
i arrived, we have been working on troubleshooting
the system.  
 
love, patricia

On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:27 AM, grammie2304 wrote:

>
> Could you share resources where to buy these items?
>
> Is there any way to protect us from the smart meter....besides fighting city hall?
>
>
> God Bless,
> Sara
> --- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett <patricia@...> wrote:
>>
>> lynn, this is an idea... take your emf meter
>> with you, wherever you go.
>> i was in a hotel and could not sleep.  
>> i got out my meter and it read HIGH under
>> the bed.  i called the front desk to ask if they
>> heated the beds... the clerk said that right
>> under my room was a big kitchen with big
>> appliances.  she moved me to a room FAR
>> away from all electrical hubs and there,  
>> i slept well.  
>> but even if you are in a campground, take
>> your meter and test for safe places BEFORE
>> you try to go to sleep.  
>> i also take a negative ion generator and let
>> it clear the air in the room before i settle in.
>> go to dinner or something while it is doing
>> its work...  tho there are some hotels that
>> no longer use strong chemicals... thank
>> goodness.  busses use strong chemicals...
>> trains are not so bad.  and the other day i
>> saw a negative ion generator that works
>> from a cigarette lighter in a car...  clean
>> air, clean water, clean food, zero radiation.  
>> human bodies are simple and need little.  
>> but they do need what little they need.
>> love, patricia
>>
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2013, at 8:26 PM, yarnspinner30@... wrote:
>>
>>> any suggestions on where to stay when need time away from home.
>>> When stayed at a hotel last felt like allergies and worse clogged.
>>> Live in southern california and was going to take the bus or train, or maybe rent a car.
>>> Thanks for any ideas
>>> Lynn D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Patricia
In reply to this post by yarnspinner30@ymail.com
lynn, what helps me is to eat greens often.
a green smoothie with fruit is a good way to
get greens painlessly... a little dandelion or
comfrey or parsley, etc is good chopped into
a bowl of rice and beans.  greens have lots
of good, easily assimilated protein and
minerals.  chlorophyll is only one ion different
from hemoglobin, so it's a bit like getting a
blood transfusion when you eat greens.  
:)  ocean air is SOOOOO healthy - as is walking
barefoot on the beach - as long as you're not
at the gulf of mexico and as long as you don't
step on glass or nails.  :)  
treat yourself well!!!  
love, patricia


On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:01 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Thank you Marc and Patricia
> Had thought of camping but cant carry much, am still needing
> to gain weight and more muscle. Last week noticed hurt to
> have arm at side (not the usual muscle , tendons,joints pain), and looked it was just very bony elbow into ribs . so was needing to eat even more food then usual. The Dr after preventive ck up said to go to a hematologist as high monocytes(for 15yrs),low platelets (wonder if there clumping so really are more of them),high MCV and MPV.
> will try to find an ion generator (when did testing ozone instruments did not like the air put out), but would be nice it it make a hotel room feel better, from allergies.
> Marc the ocean sounds so nice to visit right now.
> Maybe can get my brother to take the camping stuff to a park near him and I can take the bus (his HOnda car is 2 seater hybrid and very stinky of cigaretts and used as a closet)
> Someone told me there are cabins at a beach will ck out.
> Thanks again
> Lynn D


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Christine D.
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I purchased a shield from www.smartmetershield.com. I don't think it really made any difference. Moving out to the country where the houses are more spread out (2+ acre lots) and no houses behind us made a huge difference. Also don't have any wi-fi networks visible. Still have to deal with the dang cell towers, though.

Next up: switching out all the GFIs (four in the master bath and at least four or five in the kitchen). Keeping the breakers off in the meantime.

Christine


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

>
> On June 27, grammie2304 <sarawilliams.williams@...> wrote:
> > Is there any way to protect us from the smart meter....besides fighting city hall?
>
> Previously someone posted a link to a company that sold mesh wire shielding
> to put around the meter.  I can't recall if anyone here has tried this and it
> made any difference?
>
> Others have suggested putting shielding on the wall behind the meter
> to reflect it away from the house.  Also, can't recall how this worked out.
>
> My first thought would be to put some kind of EMF protection device on
> (or next to) the meter itself, but so far we don't have smart meters here
> for me to try this out.
>
> Marc
>


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Patricia
hi, christine!  
i'd like to know more about the GFIs...
i knew dimmer switches were nasty...
please tell me about the GFIs.  
thank you!
love, patricia

On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:10 AM, christinelrc wrote:

> Next up: switching out all the GFIs (four in the master bath and at least four or five in the kitchen). Keeping the breakers off in the meantime.


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Marc Martin
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On June 28, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> wrote:
> hi, christine!  
> i'd like to know more about the GFIs...
> i knew dimmer switches were nasty...
> please tell me about the GFIs.  

Yes, I've never heard people complain about GFIs, although
admittedly I haven't really looked into how they actually work.

Marc
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Tryingtoheal
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Patricia.

I'm so glad to here from another Missourian. I'm in St. Louis,. &  Ameren
retrofitted smart meters inside analog meters in 1998.  The gas co.
followed in 2005, then water.

 I had to fight to get our meters removed, that required a doctors letter &
a lot of pleading. The emf environment is terrible here. We get so much
from our neighbors, it's bad.


I'll write you soon. I really want to talk about the area where you are.


Kathy
[hidden email]


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Christine D.
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I noticed a reaction in the kitchen and in the master bath, and since we have nothing else hooked up in the new house yet (no internet, no phone, no computers or other electronics running) I deduced that the outlets must be what was causing my sensitivities.

I read about them here:

"Ground Fault Interrupters can be a constant electromagnetic field emitter, both magnetic and high frequency fields. Check with your gaussmeter for magnetic fields. Cooper Wiring Devices VGF15 White ShockSentry Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter -  brand GFI units are EMF free available from Partsmaster – 1-888-476-3580.  AZ Parts Master"

http://www.branchbasics.com/learn/emf-identification/

We do also have one smoke alarm hard-wired into the house, and I'm hoping to be able to leave that, but it's in the bedroom I intend to sleep in.

Christine


--- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett <patricia@...> wrote:

>
> hi, christine!  
> i'd like to know more about the GFIs...
> i knew dimmer switches were nasty...
> please tell me about the GFIs.  
> thank you!
> love, patricia
>
> On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:10 AM, christinelrc wrote:
>
> > Next up: switching out all the GFIs (four in the master bath and at least four or five in the kitchen). Keeping the breakers off in the meantime.
>