using a multimeter to detect EMF and body voltage, is it reliable?

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thesniffingratty

using a multimeter to detect EMF and body voltage, is it reliable?

I have seen some youtube videos were people use a multimeter to detect body voltage and extrapolate from that the level of EMF exposure. I have been experimenting with this and it seems to give relatively consistent results. It is this considered a reliable method? Could I use this, or another method with a multimeter, to detect electromagnetic fields like current coming into the house through the plumbing?

The multimeter I have is sensitive to a tenth of a milivolt.

emil

RE: using a multimeter to detect EMF and body voltage, is it reliable?

This is totally not correct. While body voltage may be related to the amount
of electric field exposure, it is not the only factor.
To measure field, use a field strength meter.

Emil DeToffol
Less EMF Inc.
776b Watervliet Shaker Rd
Latham NY 12110 USA
tel: 1-518-608-6479
www.lessemf.com

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I have seen some youtube videos were people use a multimeter to detect body
voltage and extrapolate from that the level of EMF exposure. I have been
experimenting with this and it seems to give relatively consistent results.
It is this considered a reliable method? Could I use this, or another
method with a multimeter, to detect electromagnetic fields like current
coming into the house through the plumbing?

The multimeter I have is sensitive to a tenth of a milivolt.

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thesniffingratty

RE: using a multimeter to detect EMF and body voltage, is it reliable?

thanks for your reply Emil. Would you say that body voltage can indicate if you are grounded or not, some of the videos on youtube have people testing methods of earthing via body voltage.

I guess related to that, if you reduce your body voltage through earthing, does that mean that you have mitigated the effects of the EMF?

Fog Top

Re: RE: using a multimeter to detect EMF and body voltage, is it reliable?

It's been my experience that using a grounding pad for sleep to reduce body voltage will make things worse (higher body voltage) if you're in an area with ground currents which can be determined with a gauss meter or if the electric utility is using power line communication which will contaminate your grounding source where it be electrical outlet or the earth around your house down to three feet deep plus about 50' out from buildings

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Re: RE: using a multimeter to detect EMF and body voltage, is it reliable?

Thanks for your reply Fog Top.

I have measured my body voltage while connected to my ground rod by a wire, and it goes to .001 mV; do you think this means that there are no ground currents and the utility isn't using power line communication? Or do I need a gauss meter to know for sure?

Also, if the contamination is only three feet deep, does that mean that I could avoid it by driving a 4' rod into the ground and connecting to that?

Cheers!

Fog Top

Re: RE: using a multimeter to detect EMF and body voltage, is it reliable?

That's a very good measure, so it appears that ground currents are insignificant there. Power line communication - TWACS - is on my wires, but even with PLC when I began to use a Earthing sheet my body voltage showed a very good .000-.002 mV. But then I discovered that different times of the night the levels rose dramatically higher voltage and actually decreased when the Earthing sheet was removed.

I'm not sure if that had to do with the 'big' smart meter reads that are done four times a day and last for hours, but I quit using Earthing.

I will have to ask a guy who has extensively studied PLC about your grounding question because I'm not sure.

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charles

Re: RE: using a multimeter to detect EMF and body voltage, is it reliable?

It is all wrong.

The principle of measuring th body voltage is POTENTIAL free.
So the person may not have contact with agrounding, but lies on a bed.
One side of the meter is connected to a ground, and the other side has a handelectrode which the person to be tested holds in one hand.

This way a potential free body voltage can be done.

Ideal is 30mV.
Many persons do give ca. 800mV.
And lying on a waterbed shows 55.000 mV, or 55 Volts!

There are special body voltage meters around.

Lynnezhu

Re: RE: using a multimeter to detect EMF and body voltage, is it reliable?

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My experience of using a grounding pad (from earthing.com in a grounded outlet) for several hours a day (in two different locations, one of which had low to no emf readings on my Cornet meter) made me worse. I did not want to see that. On the other hand standing in my back garden 20 feet or so from any known wiring, at times feels truly 'grounding ' to me. The twitching and restless legs from heavy exposure diminished with a few minutes in bare feet on that actual ground. fwiw. When I have not had really heavy exposure, to the point of twitching muscles, standing on that bit of ground seems to do nothing.

KarenEck

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We have TWAC here- if this guy has info posted anywhere, I'd love to see a
web link.

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> is it reliable? Thanks for your reply Fog Top.
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> I have measured my body voltage while connected to my ground rod by a
> wire, and it goes to .001 mV; do you think this means that there are no
> ground currents and the utility isn't using power line communication? Or
> do I need a gauss meter to know for sure?
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> Also, if the contamination is only three feet deep, does that mean that
> I could avoid it by driving a 4' rod into the ground and connecting to
> that?
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> Cheers!
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Fog Top

Re: RE: using a multimeter to detect EMF and body voltage, is it reliable?

Hi Karen,

The man who posted research on TWACS has a couple of engineering degrees. He is MCS/EHS and his research leads him to believe that TWACS "wired" metering is worse than wireless smart meters because a person might be able to shield or get far enough away from wireless meter signals, but TWACS infects the whole house by intentionallyinjecting RF into the 60 hertz power which turns all the wiring in the house and along the streets into giant radiating antennas. There really is no true opt-out with a power line communication metering system.

Dr. Olle Johansson recommends the website. It covers all smart meters, scroll down for PLC (power line communication meters) specific articles:

http://www.eiwellspring.org/smartmeter.html

Also, TWACS meters have transceivers inside which can be setup up to wirelessly communicate with nearby wireless gas or water meters and sending the data through the power lines to its destination.

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