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Amy Green
I have been struggling with EMF sensitivity and other health problems for 5 years now and have found that the EMF sensitivity is made MUCH worse by synthroid (or levothyroxine, or Armour etc).  I have been able to tolerate fluorescent lights and occasionally do some shopping this past fall because I really backed off thyroid meds.  I am hypothyroid (hashimoto's) and have seen the thyroid med correlation play out for years now.  At the moment, my FT3 and FT4 are in the middle of the normal range but my tsh is 6.7 -- (I do have low thyroid symptoms - dry skin, fatigue etc) so, of course the docs want me on more meds.  I only take about 12mcg of levothyroxine at the moment and can be pretty comfortable around computers, fluorescent lights etc.  If I even raise it to 25 mcg, I can't stay under fluorescent lights for very long before I feel weak, dizzy and faint...and on higher doses, its hideous!

Anyone have an explanation for why thyroid meds would have that effect on my ability to tolerate emf's?  Anyone besides me experience this?

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!  Amy

JD
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JD

Your problem is probably related to low cortisol, and/or low ferritin, and/or high reverse-T3.

Ask for more info here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/


JD



--- At 08:29 PM 13, 13 01 2012, Amy wrote:

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>I have been struggling with EMF sensitivity and other health problems for 5 years now and have found that the EMF sensitivity is made MUCH worse by synthroid (or levothyroxine, or Armour etc). I have been able to tolerate fluorescent lights and occasionally do some shopping this past fall because I really backed off thyroid meds. I am hypothyroid (hashimoto's) and have seen the thyroid med correlation play out for years now. At the moment, my FT3 and FT4 are in the middle of the normal range but my tsh is 6.7 -- (I do have low thyroid symptoms - dry skin, fatigue etc) so, of course the docs want me on more meds. I only take about 12mcg of levothyroxine at the moment and can be pretty comfortable around computers, fluorescent lights etc. If I even raise it to 25 mcg, I can't stay under fluorescent lights for very long before I feel weak, dizzy and faint...and on higher doses, its hideous!
>
>Anyone have an explanation for why thyroid meds would have that effect on my ability to tolerate emf's? Anyone besides me experience this?
>
>Any help would be appreciated!
>
>Thanks! Amy
>
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Amy Green
JD - I appreciate your reply.  I've been on those forums for years.  My cortisol levels are normal (saliva test), RT3 is normal and my ferritin is around 70.  Nothing there that should indicate the kind of problems I've had for years, in fact I was much worse while on Armour which is considered the sacred cow in those groups.  So -- I'm stumped!

Thanks,  Amy



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Your problem is probably related to low cortisol, and/or low ferritin, and/or high reverse-T3.

Ask for more info here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/


JD



--- At 08:29 PM 13, 13 01 2012, Amy wrote:

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>I have been struggling with EMF sensitivity and other health problems for 5 years now and have found that the EMF sensitivity is made MUCH worse by synthroid (or levothyroxine, or Armour etc). I have been able to tolerate fluorescent lights and occasionally do some shopping this past fall because I really backed off thyroid meds. I am hypothyroid (hashimoto's) and have seen the thyroid med correlation play out for years now. At the moment, my FT3 and FT4 are in the middle of the normal range but my tsh is 6.7 -- (I do have low thyroid symptoms - dry skin, fatigue etc) so, of course the docs want me on more meds. I only take about 12mcg of levothyroxine at the moment and can be pretty comfortable around computers, fluorescent lights etc. If I even raise it to 25 mcg, I can't stay under fluorescent lights for very long before I feel weak, dizzy and faint...and on higher doses, its hideous!
>
>Anyone have an explanation for why thyroid meds would have that effect on my ability to tolerate emf's? Anyone besides me experience this?
>
>Any help would be appreciated!
>
>Thanks! Amy
>
>
>



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Elizabeth thode
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Amy,
Are you taking any adrenal support? Because the adrenals make the hormones that the thyroid NEEDS to be able to use/metabolize the Thryoid meds. It is quite common for BOTH these glands to be effected because they work together. So someone who tries taking only the Thryoid support, and not adrenal support, what happens is the thryoid hormones end up building up in the body, and the person feels worse. The only hormone Synthroid contains is the T-4, which is the storage hormone.
As for synthetic thryoid meds, such as: Synthroid/Levoxl/ Two important things you should know. Synthetic thryoid meds contain only ONE hormone, the Thryoid makes 9. Armour has all 9. Secondly, Synthroid contains: GMO corn starch, red dyes  aluminum lake- this means PETROLEUM CHEMICALS/TAR.
 To me? Its not that the thryoid meds are effecting the emfs, its really the other way around. The emfs are effecting your thyroid glands and the lack of adrenal support is making both worse.
As for blood test results and numbers? I've known many people who had blood tests for thryoid and were told their thryoid was fine or in the normal levels. They had most if not ALL of the symptoms of low thyroid/ and low adrenals.
The best way in my opinion, to check your OWN thryoid is to take your temperature.
In the attachment is instructions for checking your thryoid using the Barnes Temp Test and a list of common signs/symptoms for both the Thyroid and Adrenals.
You can check your own thyroid AT HOME. This technique is very accurate and has been used successfully for over 50 years. Then along came the lab blood tests, which is a good money maker- unfortunately, it is NOT an accurate test.
 
Best book to read:  Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ...




www.amazon.com
 
Lizzie



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I have been struggling with EMF sensitivity and other health problems for 5 years now and have found that the EMF sensitivity is made MUCH worse by synthroid (or levothyroxine, or Armour etc). I have been able to tolerate fluorescent lights and occasionally do some shopping this past fall because I really backed off thyroid meds. I am hypothyroid (hashimoto's) and have seen the thyroid med correlation play out for years now. At the moment, my FT3 and FT4 are in the middle of the normal range but my tsh is 6.7 -- (I do have low thyroid symptoms - dry skin, fatigue etc) so, of course the docs want me on more meds. I only take about 12mcg of levothyroxine at the moment and can be pretty comfortable around computers, fluorescent lights etc. If I even raise it to 25 mcg, I can't stay under fluorescent lights for very long before I feel weak, dizzy and faint...and on higher doses, its hideous!

Anyone have an explanation for why thyroid meds would have that effect on my ability to tolerate emf's? Anyone besides me experience this?

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks! Amy





     

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Elizabeth thode
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Low cortisol means low adrenals.
Reverse T-3 is pretty rare.
Low Iron would be common in menstrating females, as body loses iron with periods.
But remember, both the thryoid AND the adrenals work together.
Leave one or both out of the healing equation, no dice.
It's like a car- if the transmission is shot, it won't run.
Likewise, if the engine is shot, same result.
See if you recognize any of these symptoms.
Lizzie
 



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Your problem is probably related to low cortisol, and/or low ferritin, and/or high reverse-T3.

Ask for more info here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

JD

--- At 08:29 PM 13, 13 01 2012, Amy wrote:

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>I have been struggling with EMF sensitivity and other health problems for 5 years now and have found that the EMF sensitivity is made MUCH worse by synthroid (or levothyroxine, or Armour etc). I have been able to tolerate fluorescent lights and occasionally do some shopping this past fall because I really backed off thyroid meds. I am hypothyroid (hashimoto's) and have seen the thyroid med correlation play out for years now. At the moment, my FT3 and FT4 are in the middle of the normal range but my tsh is 6.7 -- (I do have low thyroid symptoms - dry skin, fatigue etc) so, of course the docs want me on more meds. I only take about 12mcg of levothyroxine at the moment and can be pretty comfortable around computers, fluorescent lights etc. If I even raise it to 25 mcg, I can't stay under fluorescent lights for very long before I feel weak, dizzy and faint...and on higher doses, its hideous!
>
>Anyone have an explanation for why thyroid meds would have that effect on my ability to tolerate emf's? Anyone besides me experience this?
>
>Any help would be appreciated!
>
>Thanks! Amy
>
>
>




     

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Elizabeth thode
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Armour is probably the best, as far as natural thryoid prescription meds. There are non prescription natural alternatives though that work well for many people, providing they are also nurturing the body by supplementing vital minerals, such as: Magnesium, Iodine, Selenium, just to name the 3 biggees.  
What kind of saliva test was it?
Look at the symptoms list I sent you. That should be a good guide for anyone trying to figure out what's happening in the body.
The thyroid and adrenals are the body's Immune System.
And they DO work together.
Question: are you taking any Iodine?
There are Iodine receptors all over the body. Iodine is a common deficiency, without enough Iodine, the thryoid cannot do its job; one of which, is to cleanse the blood.
Bromides and Fluorides are Halogens. These also greatly interfere with the Thyroid. Fluoride is in city water, bottled water, processed foods, MOST prescription/ over the counter meds, in toothpaste, up to 1500 ppm (parts per million-ugh!)
Fluoride competes for the same space in the body as Iodine. So if the body does have enough stores of Iodine, guess what? The bad guys like: Fluoride, Mercury, Bromides will act like bullies and take up that space. Fluoride is a neurotoxin, and very toxic to the thryoid.
Lizzie



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JD - I appreciate your reply.  I've been on those forums for years.  My cortisol levels are normal (saliva test), RT3 is normal and my ferritin is around 70.  Nothing there that should indicate the kind of problems I've had for years, in fact I was much worse while on Armour which is considered the sacred cow in those groups.  So -- I'm stumped!

Thanks,  Amy

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Your problem is probably related to low cortisol, and/or low ferritin, and/or high reverse-T3.

Ask for more info here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

JD

--- At 08:29 PM 13, 13 01 2012, Amy wrote:

>
>I have been struggling with EMF sensitivity and other health problems for 5 years now and have found that the EMF sensitivity is made MUCH worse by synthroid (or levothyroxine, or Armour etc). I have been able to tolerate fluorescent lights and occasionally do some shopping this past fall because I really backed off thyroid meds. I am hypothyroid (hashimoto's) and have seen the thyroid med correlation play out for years now. At the moment, my FT3 and FT4 are in the middle of the normal range but my tsh is 6.7 -- (I do have low thyroid symptoms - dry skin, fatigue etc) so, of course the docs want me on more meds. I only take about 12mcg of levothyroxine at the moment and can be pretty comfortable around computers, fluorescent lights etc. If I even raise it to 25 mcg, I can't stay under fluorescent lights for very long before I feel weak, dizzy and faint...and on higher doses, its hideous!
>
>Anyone have an explanation for why thyroid meds would have that effect on my ability to tolerate emf's? Anyone besides me experience this?
>
>Any help would be appreciated!
>
>Thanks! Amy
>
>
>

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JD
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Any,

"Normal RT3" (reverse T3) is not the issue, at all.. The key is the *ratio* of Free-T3 to Reverse-T3.

Neither Synthroid (T4) nor Armour thyroid (T4+T3) are appropriate if you do have a "depressed FT3/RT3-ratio" (which they worsen).
So that could explain your reported symptoms on Armour.

In the case of a low FT3/RT3-ratio, "T3-only" medication would work -- beginning after about 12 weeks of daily use (to increase the FT3/RT3-ratio), while "ramping up" the T3 dose as required, based on tracking your body temperature several times daily.

Have you tested your FT3/RT3-ratio? .. (The FT3 and RT3 must be measured from the *same* blood draw.)

Other approaches to help remedy a "depressed FT3/RT3-ratio" include:

. Increasing your liver function.

. Removing major "stress" from your life - for example: "low-calorie dieting" for weight loss, which lowers the FT3/RT3-ratio, and that normally produces increased weight gain (ouch!).

. Treatment of hidden infections -- including abscessed teeth (digital x-rays required for diagnosis), and root-canalled teeth (extract them; they cannot be sterilized or made safe).

Also, I see that you said you have "Hashimoto's" (thyroiditis).

Please see this:
"Are Complex Gut Issues Driving Your Autoimmune Thyroid?"
http://wellnessalternatives-stl.blogspot.com/2011/11/are-complex-gut-issues-driving-your.html

Quote:- "82% of people with Autoimmune Thyroid also have Autoimmune Gastrointestinal Disease (AIGD) and Anemia."

There's a high probability that you also have autoimmune "Atrophic Gastritis" (another name for the same thing).

So, see these:
"The unseen epidemic: the linked syndromes of achlorhydria and atrophic gastritis"
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_252/ai_n6160495/

"Anemia and Exhaustion: Anemia of Chronic Inflammation is the Evil Twin of Iron Anemia."
http://wellnessalternatives-stl.blogspot.com/2011/10/anemia-and-exhaustion-anemia-of-chronic.html


Have you been diagnosed with achlorhydria, hypochlorhydria or atrophic gastritis?

See a "gastroenterology" specialist-M.D. for that -- unless you regular doctor knows what to test for.


JD


--- At 04:57 AM 14 01 2012, Amy Green wrote:

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>JD - I appreciate your reply.  I've been on those forums for years.  My cortisol levels are normal (saliva test), RT3 is normal and my ferritin is around 70.  Nothing there that should indicate the kind of problems I've had for years, in fact I was much worse while on Armour which is considered the sacred cow in those groups.  So -- I'm stumped!
>
>Thanks,  Amy
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: JD <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:12 PM
>Subject: Re: [eSens] thyroid meds & emfs
>
>
>Your problem is probably related to low cortisol, and/or low ferritin, and/or high reverse-T3.
>
>Ask for more info here:
>
>http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/
>
>http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/
>
>
>JD
>
>
>
>--- At 08:29 PM 13, 13 01 2012, Amy wrote:
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>>I have been struggling with EMF sensitivity and other health problems for 5 years now and have found that the EMF sensitivity is made MUCH worse by synthroid (or levothyroxine, or Armour etc). I have been able to tolerate fluorescent lights and occasionally do some shopping this past fall because I really backed off thyroid meds. I am hypothyroid (hashimoto's) and have seen the thyroid med correlation play out for years now. At the moment, my FT3 and FT4 are in the middle of the normal range but my tsh is 6.7 -- (I do have low thyroid symptoms - dry skin, fatigue etc) so, of course the docs want me on more meds. I only take about 12mcg of levothyroxine at the moment and can be pretty comfortable around computers, fluorescent lights etc. If I even raise it to 25 mcg, I can't stay under fluorescent lights for very long before I feel weak, dizzy and faint...and on higher doses, its hideous!
>>
>>Anyone have an explanation for why thyroid meds would have that effect on my ability to tolerate emf's? Anyone besides me experience this?
>>
>>Any help would be appreciated!
>>
>>Thanks! Amy
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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KathyB
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I don't know if this fits you, but there is research on oxalate & thyroid autoimmune disease. 

This person's research says,  Giving more T4 will nto the thyroid and to possible autoimmune
issues, if it's an oxalate issue.




http://lowoxalate.info/research.html


Kathy






 










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Elizabeth thode

Quick summary of this:
Anti bioitics destroy the good bacteria in the gut.
 
Note: Mother nature has given us many herbs/foods/spices
like: garlic, tumeric, ginger, peppermint, tea tree(melaleuca)
that were the original anti-biotics. Fermented foods were the
origninal probiotics, which help restore the good bacteria in the gut.
Not in the article, but important here, is that GMO
foods also destroy the good bacteria.
As for addng T-4? T-4 is a storage hormone- this is
basically what Synthroid is. The body wasn't designed
to live on T-4 alone.
Having experienced the effects of too much T-4,
when taking thyroid support without adrenal support-
the T-4 builds up in the body...making the symptoms worse.
Why? The body in unable to use this hormone
if the adrenals are LOW- because the adrenals make
the hormone that enables the body to USE the thyroid
hormones. Its like a stapler with no staples. What good
is a stapler, if it doesn't have any staples in it? A car
with an empty gas tank.
Adding more of this will not support the thryoid.
Autoimmune/ hashitmoto's is not this "mysterious' rare
disorder that it is made out to be. Autoimmune thyroiditis
is one of progressive deterioration of thryoid function,; the
thryoid may slowly enlarge or shrink, its hormone production
lessening as time goes by. Hashimoto's is a slow deterioration
and make take years for the diagnosis to be made, because
the hormone levels tend to fluctuate. (a little too high, but not very,
or a little too low, but not enough to cause worry-)there may be
periods of months, or even years, when the thryoid is over active.
Liken this to stages of thryoid stress. In may go over active, because
something has stressed the body's immune system. Think of it as a
defense mechanism. It may normalize after a short while, or it can
stay in the high stress mode. But eventually, it will downgrade,
cycle down into under active status.
 
Simply put- the Immune System is the Thyroid and Adrenals.
Yes, they are connected to others...but if those TWO
are healthy, there's rarely any issues with the others.
Its like people are looking for this rare thing/name that they
can attribute to their symptoms...instead of looking at the
white elephant in front of us, that we keep tripping over.
Nutritional deficiencies and Toxic over load. You won't
have much luck with one, if you ignore the other.
Feed, nurture the body, the immune system with the tools/minerals
nutrition it needs to do its job. Stop eating foods that are really just chemicals
disguised as food. And unless you are growing your own food, and nurturing
the SOIL that food grows in...supplementing: Iodine, Magnesium, Selenium,
Sulfur is a really wise thing to do. IF the body  had enough Iodine, Magnesium,
Selenium, Sulfur...heavy metals wouldn't be an issue. There'd be NO room
for these bad guys to take up residence. The body would naturally excrete these.
Bottom line? Find and treat what's causing the problem. The symptoms are not
the problem. Something/things - in todays world, MANY things, are causing these
symptoms. Fluoride is another BIG one...you avoid at all cost.
Mainstream, regular medicine likes to TREAT them with band aids/ pills.
Note I used the word "treat" not cure.
As for ES related? much can be done to support the Immune system. Will this
cure the micro wave radiation problem? No, that is going to take people power.
People healthy and determined- or not healthy but mad enough keep pushing
for change. We need to change the mindset....somehow our global socieity has
been tricked into believing we need a technology that is harming us.
That needs to change. It changes when we stop supporting the very thing
that is causing so much misery and harm.
Lizzie
 



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I don't know if this fits you, but there is research on oxalate & thyroid autoimmune disease.

This person's research says,  Giving more T4 will nto the thyroid and to possible autoimmune
issues, if it's an oxalate issue.

http://lowoxalate.info/research.html

Kathy

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