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Canopy experiment , motorhome grounding

Posted by Sue on Aug 02, 2013; 10:07pm
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Canopy-experiment-tp4025809p4026236.html

Hi Al,

> Have you grounded the motor home?Â

I put a screwdriver in the ground and connected the motorhome for a test.  Once back in, I couldn't wait to get back out of the motorhome because it felt bad.  Is using a screwdriver a bad test because it  is not deep into the ground like a 6-ft grounding rod?    

According to the scope, there is a square wave about 0.5Vac and about 14ms long  ~ 71hz on a nearby piece of rebar that is plunged into the soil much deeper than the scredriver.    The signal also shows about 0.1Vdc.    That square wave is absent inside the ungrounded motorhome and so is the DC, but the motorhome does have a teensy noisy signal.      

Before I put up the microwave absorbing sheets on the motorhome windows, I noticed my body voltage was slightly higher inside the motorhome than it was outside.    Once the sheets were up, my body voltage was less than it was outside, even without a ground.  

Given these things, I'm currently not going to ground the motorhome.

We have a 8-foot grounding rod in the garage that my sweetie installed and connected up to the main panel.     There is no square wave on that ground rod, just a tiny bit of noise.

Checked the grounded canopy with the power on too.  Same square wave.  When I disconnect the canopy's ground, the signal became a much bigger sin wave, showing how the canopy is amplifying the electric field I guess.  

I checked the neutral of a live circuit and found the same square wave.  Then disconnected one of the stetzer filters I use on another live circuit and tested that live circuit's neutral and the shape of the wave changed a lot, but the frequency stayed the same.   It makes me wonder - even though I calibrated the probe, is the 71hz I think I am getting is really  60 hz, but for some reason the internal calibration of the scope is off?  

Tested the neutral of a de-energized circuit turned off at the subpanel. Same square wave.  

I've successfully confused myself completely.   Am reduced to being a dog chasing her tail haha.   How can the grounding rod in the garage which is connected to the main panel neutral and ground NOT have a square wave, yet a neutral inside the house does?  Am I getting bogus readings?  Is there a disconnection somewhere?   do do do do.  

Sue    

--- In [hidden email], "ob4567" <sueandgerry@...> wrote:

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> Hi Al,
>
> Ok on the water!   Interesting suggestions about bushes and oleanders.  
>
> Haven't grounded the motorhome yet, but I plan to soon.    
>
> Thank you :)
> Sue
> --- In [hidden email], Al Harding <iprovedit@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sue,
> >  
> >  It's always good too have extra water around for emergencies sake anyway.....Yes, stack them as high as they will stand. Perimeter walls are ideal because once the energy is absorbed it can't go anywhere. Bushes are great for outside the bedroom walls. Oleanders hold quite a bit of water in their leaves and are very resilient, although I have seen them die around a smart meter. Actually nothing leafy will survive in close proximity to one.
> >   
> > Have you grounded the motor home? 
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: ob4567 <sueandgerry@>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:47 PM
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Canopy experiment
> >  
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> > Hi Al,
> >
> > Yeah I can imagine most people don't want to stacked cases of water against their bedroom wall lol.
> >
> > I'm considering trying the water case idea in the motorhome just to see how it feels...There is an overhead area in the front where a bed used to be.  It has a wide front window and two long side windows already covered with microwave absorbing material.   If putting cases in front of them makes a difference, there is a good chance I'll feel it.
> >
> > When you use water cases, are they stacked only 1 case deep for as high as you stack them?
> >
> > Sue
> >
> > >
> > >  I just found this in my spam box. You need to use more than one case. Stacked cases of water will absorb and block high frequency RF.  I have been able to use this for temporary and long term situations. Most people don't want to see a wall of stacked cases of water in their bedrooms. 
> > > Al
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: ob4567 <sueandgerry@>
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:04 PM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Canopy experiment
> > >
> > >
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> > >  
> > > Hi Al,
> > >
> > > Sorry not to get back sooner - I'm not using the computer much due to EHS.
> > >
> > > Regarding my test on the case of water... I found it wasn't a good one.  As it turns out, my reading depended how low to the garage floor I held the meter.   I did the same test in the same low location when the case of water was removed, and the reading was the same!   Ha!  A scientist I'll never make lol.
> > >
> > > I put off the water idea and have been meaning to get to you.  I know you definitely feel better with the cases of water stacked up.  Have you measured with your RF meter to see the difference in RF between before and after you put cases of water up?
> > >
> > > Sue
> > >
> > > [hidden email], Al Harding <iprovedit@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sue,
> > > >
> > > > Were you able to experiment with more water? Placing walls of water around the bedroom along with turning the power off will reduce the smart meter emissions greatly. 
> > > >
> > > > Al
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >  From: ob4567 <sueandgerry@>
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 9:27 PM
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Canopy experiment
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > > We happened to have an unopened case of 16-oz bottles in the garage, so I whipped out my Cornet 85EDXS RF meter to check it out.      Very interesting.   Ordinarily, the meter picks up wifi, smart meters and cell phone tower signals throughout the garage.    When pointing its antenna directly at the case of water with a tiny space between them,  the meter didn't register any RF, aside from intermittent neighborhood smart meter pulses.      And the smart meter pulsing amplitude was cut in half.   Not bad!
> > > >
> > > > Sue
> > > >
> > > > --- In [hidden email], "ob4567" <sueandgerry@> wrote:
> > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > It depends on the where the propagating source is coming from. I use a Gigahertz Solutions 38B to detect direction. If you don't have one just stack them around your bed at least three feet higher than your head.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It will be just like playing "fort" again, like when we were kids..........
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hahahaha.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > >  From: ob4567 <sueandgerry@>
> > > > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 9:11 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Canopy experiment
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> > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You won't need to experiment as you are creating a natural environment. I have lived with cases of water on my walls for the last year. It works. It's truly amazing how much better I feel. No more naps in the middle of the day! I also shut the power off to the entire house, accept for the air conditioner.
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> > > > > > I'm impressed with the simplicity of this.  So you stick the cases all the way to ceiling?
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> > > > > > > -----------------------------
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:56 AM PDT ob4567 wrote:
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> > > > > > > >Lynn,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I thought microwaves can get into water as thats how we heat it.
> > > > > > > >> But maybe it still would reduce and also insulate from heat/cold.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Yes,   it sounds like the microwave absorbing quality of water  could
> > > > > > > >possibly make it be a good insulator.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Sue, when you next experiment, just remove 1 item or try 1 item.
> > > > > > > >> such as mat or canopy.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I'll give this some thought.   (I'm kinda chicken right now to try
> > > > > > > >another experiement, cluck cluck lol.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> do wonder if our bodies do go thru withdrawels when used to EMF's.
> > > > > > > >> When you wore shielding clothing, did at head cover work?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >No.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> wonder if homeopathy might help, I am considering that.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >re: homeopathy, I've been having appointments with an excellent
> > > > > > > >naturapath <http://www.thereesewellnesssystem.com/>   for a few years.
> > > > > > > >This guy has helped me so much!    I used to be pretty couch-bound
> > > > > > > >during the day from chronic fatigue and used to get sick frequently.
> > > > > > > >If I wasn't aware of the increased tinnitus that just happened and the
> > > > > > > >precautions I must take because of ES, etc.,  I'd think I was one of
> > > > > > > >healthiest people alive because I feel so good :).     So much of this
> > > > > > > >is because of his program and the information he provides.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >And while his program cannot stop the effects of wireless technology, it
> > > > > > > >can locate and and provide support to organs and tissues that need
> > > > > > > >support.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Good luck if you decide to try homeopathy!
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> > > > > > > >Sue
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> > > > > > > >Good luck if you decide to try it! :)
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> > > > > > > >Sue
> > > > > > > >--- In [hidden email], "yarnspinner30@"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I thought microwaves can get into water as thats how we heat it.
> > > > > > > >> But maybe it still would reduce and also insulate from heat/cold.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Sue, when you next experiment, just remove 1 item or try 1 item.
> > > > > > > >> such as mat or canopy.
> > > > > > > >> do wonder if our bodies do go thru withdrawels when used to EMF's.
> > > > > > > >> When you wore shielding clothing, did at head cover work?
> > > > > > > >> wonder if homeopathy might help, I am considering that.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Lynn D
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> --- In [hidden email], Al Harding iprovedit@ wrote:
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> > > > > > > >> > Sue,
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > I apologize for intruding.ÃÆ'Æ'‚
> > > > > > > >> > Have you tried stacking cases of water against walls where the high
> > > > > > > >measurements are coming from? Microwaves cannot penetrate cases of
> > > > > > > >water. Make sure to always turn the power off to most of your home. I
> > > > > > > >have found that energized wiring acts like an antenna for microwaves.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Al
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > ________________________________
> > > > > > > >> >  From: ob4567 sueandgerry@
> > > > > > > >> > To: [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >> > Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 3:17 PM
> > > > > > > >> > Subject: [eSens] Canopy experiment
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > ÃÆ'Æ'‚
> > > > > > > >> > Hi Marc,
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > I'm posting this because I know you like to experiment too.  :)
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > I bought a nice EMF-shielding canopy as an experiment to determine
> > > > > > > >if I can live within a shielded environment here in our home or if I
> > > > > > > >need to start looking for low EMF places to spend time in.  (Trying to
> > > > > > > >avoid permanent relocation).   The canopy is extra large so there is
> > > > > > > >lots of room inside of it.  It has anywhere from 43 to 50 dB from well
> > > > > > > >below 1800Mhz to 10Ghz.     It's pad is grounded directly to earth
> > > > > > > >ground rather than through the electrical outlet grounds in the room and
> > > > > > > >the canopy material rests on the pad.   There is 1.2 ohms resistence
> > > > > > > >between the canopy and the mat.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > The RF meter shows no signals inside, whereas outside the canopy it
> > > > > > > >registers plenty of smart meter, cell phone tower and wifi signals.
> > > > > > > >The ELF meter shows nothing.   Body voltage is considerably less inside
> > > > > > > >the canopy than other places in the house.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Once inside, my body relaxes in a way it does not when I am outside
> > > > > > > >of it.  I energy tested a friend and my sweetie when they were inside of
> > > > > > > >it and my friend tested me.   The energy tests show great results.
> > > > > > > >when I step outside after being in it for awhile, I feel like my body
> > > > > > > >has decompressed, I seem to be taller.   It doesn't last, but still
> > > > > > > >great news.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Now here's the downside.   When I'm inside, within moments a lot of
> > > > > > > >my skin feels sensitive.  If I remain inside the canopy for awhile, my
> > > > > > > >skin starts to sting.   And it continues to sting for about 5 minutes
> > > > > > > >after I am outside of the canopy.
> > > > > > > >> > I had this feeling only once before - when I tried to wear RF
> > > > > > > >shielding fabric.   And like the canopy, the skin sensation change is
> > > > > > > >almost immediate.  This is the reason I got an extra large canopy to be
> > > > > > > >as far away from the material as possible.   Also after being in it, I
> > > > > > > >awoke with increased tinnitus.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Did one more 1 minute test in it today and 1/2 hour after I was out,
> > > > > > > >my ears felt like they had been exposed to an incredibly loud noise.
> > > > > > > >The ringing increased.   I'm suspecting the canopy for the increase in
> > > > > > > >ringing.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > I've heard that many people have their health improve with the use
> > > > > > > >of canopies.  And I've been told that canopies can produce an "orgon
> > > > > > > >box" affect.  That is when some frequencies get inside the canopy and
> > > > > > > >bounce around.  Our body emits electrical fields as well and they
> > > > > > > >dissipate.   The orgon-box affect causes the body's fields to be
> > > > > > > >reflected back onto itself rather than to dissipate.   they can build
> > > > > > > >up.    I've also heard that tinnitus is on the rise because of EMF's.
> > > > > > > >I'm guessing this is what might have happened. Glad I didn't sleep in it
> > > > > > > >lol.   I'm not going to use it as is.
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> > > > > > > >> > Moving on :)
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