Posted by Sue on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Canopy-experiment-tp4025809p4025845.html

C. Johnson,

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> You said your canopy was quite large, meaning that it could be picking up EMF from the electrical wires in the floor of the room it is in, or the walls, or the appliances or electronics in the room, or electrical outlets or neighbors.  Also, you are not supposed to have any metal inside the canopy.
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Hmm...My massage table has small metal screws...I'll take it out and put in a plastic chair for the next test.  


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>  I think this sounds like the most likely cause of the problem in addition to the grounding.
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> If you want to make sure, expand your experiment by doing this:  Take the canopy and put it up somewhere where there is no outlets, no wires, no electronics and then see if it bothers you to be in it.  I bet you would find it didn't.  Obviously the canopy is picking something up.
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That's what I am thinking.  The canopy is designed to be suspended on 2 taught wires anchored on opposite walls just below the ceiling, making it difficult to use outside the house which has wires in every room.    What do you think of this idea?  I turn all power off in the house instead of moving it away from all wires?    
 
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> I mentioned before that I reacted to the socks from Less EMF.  They made my feet sting and I couldn't wear them, just like your canopy is doing to you, making it seem that it is the fabric itself that is picking up EMF of some sort and transferring it to the body.   When I put aluminum hardware screen up over my walls, windows and floors, I found that being in that room caused my skin to sting and crawl, as if waves were bouncing around.  So I made the situation worse.  
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I can so relate.  

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I don't think any of us know the exact mechanism of what is happening with the shielding but it seems obvious that when your skin stings or prickles you are getting hit with EMF or RF in the form of waves, transients, currents, reflections, dirty electricity, or what have you.  
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I wonder what a spectrum analyzer would show?  

> Messages that have been posted previously on the subject discuss the possibility that metal particles are coming out of the fabric and making a person sick, presumably by breathing them in.
>  As we discussed before, on page 3 at http://www.next-up.org/pdf/Andrew_Michrowski_Ph_D_Exposition_Cem_21_04_2009.pdf 
> Andew Michrowski gives evidence that EMR does in fact cause metal corrosion which indicates that canopies could shed metal particles. 
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Wow!  these particles must be very small.

> I know my aluminum hardware screen shielding does leach metal ions - sometimes you can taste it in your mouth. 
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I've had that kind of experience in the past, so again can relate.


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 The silver in Aaronia Shield or any silver thread fabric, does oxidize over time and the fabric can change color and loose effectivity.  But I think any corrosion from microwaves on your Aaronia canopy would occur over time and I don't think you have had your canopy long enough for it to do this. 
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Right.  

> Also, I don't think that explains the stinging skin.
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> Some discuss the possibility that the canopy is radiating dirty electricity or high frequency transients in the 100khz - 1mghz range. 
>Or that the low frequency electric fields are coupling with the fabric. 
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Interesting.

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I know that I get stinging skin from Cell Towers, Wi-Fi but also from EMF's in cars and stereo speakers - and magnets. 
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Yeowie, my sympathies.   Did that skin sensitivity to all of the above happen all at once or did you start developing the sensitivity to one, then another,  over time?
   
Magnets can be tricky for me too.  I can't work on people for long if they are holding a small magnet.  Causes my mind to go blank.   Stones that are commonly used to balance meridians and chakras can be too strong as well.  

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 So EMF transients and dirty electricity can also cause stinging skin and I think that is the most likely explanation.  You said the canopy pad was grounded to the earth.  The grounding does not eliminate the Magnetic aspect of any EMF the canopy may be picking up. 
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True...  I don't detect anything magnetic inside or around the canopy with the Trifield meter 100XE.  

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>  I know I am sensitive to the Magnetic part of the electromagnetic frequencies and as i said, it causes me physical symptoms, including stinging skin. 
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> So expand your canopy experiment further by not only taking it away from EMF sources, but by taking off the grounding cords and then see if you still get the skin stinging.  The problem could be magnetic.  I would be interested to know the results as many people have no problem with canopies and some do so it may be how where they are set up.
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I'm wondering that too.   I'll let you know after I try that.

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>  But then again, it may have nothing to do with EMF's just like the silver thread socks from Less EMF made my feet sting just by putting them on.
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In my case, I'm at least 3 feet away from the material when inside.  

> On the Mast-Victims.org forum in July 2010 Henrik Tvenge said in response to the Topas Canopy Thread:
> "There is another problem. I can see that approx. one third of the people sleeping in a canopy will sleep very good for a couple of days. Then they sleep bad for up to 10 days. Thereafter sleep is good. We had this tested by doctors who measure number of stress hormones etc. They came back and informed us that it is the same thing when you take alcohol ,away from an alcoholic. The body has got used to the electromagnetic fields.
> When you are sleeping in a canopy there are no or very little field strength. Your body will start looking for the fields and will be nervous until the body realizes that there are not fields anymore. Thereafter you will sleep well. This happens to approx. 1/3 of the users" Best regards Henrik Tvenge  End
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Interesting.  And it makes sense.

 
> In June 2008, Charles Claessens posted a message to this list in response to someone about a Faraday canopy entitled: 
> Re: [eSens] Home Biologists Report/Need Help & Direction
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> He said:
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> "A faraday canopy is the very last thing we do recommend, because they generally
> do have some disadvantages. Some people cannot stand them and throw them away after a few weeks.
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lol I can imagine :)

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>One disadvantage is, that the material is too close to the body, and electrical fields are attracted by the material.

Hmm.  Is Charles Claessens including the electrical fields emanating from our body being attracted to the material too?  Not just from the live wires in the area?   I'm asking because at first the skin sensitivity made me think of suction on the skin that is sensitive.  

WOW!

> All doom and gloom? Are we totally fu..,ked?
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> After thousands of dollars,  I have been unsuccessful in shielding my bedroom from WiFi, TV towers, Cell Towers or Radar.
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> Yes they are diminished on the meters, but after painting the room with Copper paint (grounded) and putting two different layers of fabric over the windows, I feel worse in their
> and consequently have made the room worse. I now sleep in another room of the
> house." End
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Just amazing...


> I am being bombarded with RF in my apartment and the only thing that saves  me is getting a break at night by sleeping sandwiched between shielding fabric (the fabric is sandwiched in between sheets - not making contact with my body)
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does this fabric reflect RF rather than absorb it?   Have you tried any Rf absorbing material?  If so, what do you think about it?

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 and putting my head in a box with shielding mesh fabric  over it.  People I know give me a bad time saying "I have never hear of  anybody sleeping with their head in a box.  What a kook."  I don't care what they say. 
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Understood.

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 When they end up getting cataract surgery, they will wish they slept with their head in a box.  For some reason, I do not get any stinging or problems with this arrangement and I am very  sensitive. 
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Interesting.



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There does not seem to be currents traveling up or inside  the fabric and I feel protected for the night.  I measured under the covers and inside the box, and the levels are almost nil, except there is still some faint Wi-Fi pulsing going on.  I noticed a  difference in my health right away by
>  sleeping like this.  My symptoms went down 75%. 
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Very cool.

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That is why I know for a fact that a key part of  healing from microwave illness is avoidance, which means, getting a break from it or at least reducing your levels, especially at night.  It has a lot to do with body burden.
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Yes.   Thanks for all of your information, including the quotes!

Sue