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> Hi everyone 
>
> On a similar note has anyone tried any of the Green 8 products? gilligan Joy mentions them on his site and I checked out their web site recently - some of the products are quite pricey but if they would help I would give them a go - just wondering whether any one on the forum has tried any of them and what they thought of them?
>
> best
> Steph
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Tim <timheierman@...>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2013, 20:40
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Q-Link
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>  
> Thanks for sharing that Taliesen... It's great to get feedback from folks, what's working, what's not working...
>
> I haven't tried any pendants, so I can't say if they help for me. I wish there was a quick fix for ES. I REALLY DO, but that appears very unlikely, as much as a cure. The reality is that we face ever increasing levels of radiation, so we've gotta get creative and come up with solutions that work. Not everything works for everybody either. That seems to be clear...
>
> The Stetzer filters did help me somewhat, but I still have to avoid close proximity to computers and other electrical devices, especially when I was living in a rural home with TWACS on the electrical mains. My symptoms are delayed, so I found a Stetzer meter invaluable.
>
> Grounding is best. I enjoyed what I call my "sand therapy" when I was living along the Oregon coast last summer. I'd soak my bare feet in the warm sand, walk along the beach. Ahhhh.... All those negative ions and grounding made me feel so much better... There are good reflexology benefits as well. At some point when I can get settled, I'm going to build a reflexology garden foot path, with various textures, for earth grounding exercise and to stimulate the meridians, and aromas and plants to stimulate the mind. Add a spiritual contemplation along the way, and you have body, mind, and spirit covered!  :-) 
>
> Tim
>
> ________________________________
> From: Taliesen Waters <taliesen.waters@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Q-Link
>
>
> Hi All,
> I have the Q-link and the EarthCalm.  While neither helped with MY E.S., I
> don't think the people they help are necessarily experiencing a placebo
> effect.
>
> They aren't inert, at least not used in combination.  I already had the
> Q-link when I got the earthcalm and when I put them on together, boy did I
> feel awful and I was able to replicate this many  times..  they maybe be
> helpful (just my hypothesis) for people who are NOT e.s. and want to help
> prevent getting e.s., but I don't even know that they do that.
>
> Interestingly, in the q-link, earthcalm category, about 2 weeks ago I got a
> vitaplex pendant, hoping it might ameliorate some of the E.S. (for me, this
> is feeling extremely overwhelmed with sensory input- light, sound, motion
> and a general feeling of very extreme agitation and sleeplessness).
>
> The vitaplex pendant did NOT, I repeat did NOT help with the E.S. in any
> way whatsoever.  BUT, it did give me a small but real boost in energy and
> mood (and having tried a ton of stuff and spent a ton of money, I think I
> have an anti-placebo bias- I don't expect anything to work!).  so this has
> been a happy and odd surprise.
>
> There have only been 3 things that I found really helped with the E.S.
> :
> grounding pad- significant help, though by no means a cure,  I can use
> electronics longer w/o symptoms,
>
> high dose fish oil (really high dose- at a dose that would make it a blood
> thinner, so you would DEFINITELY WANT TO CHECK WITH YOUR M.D. FIRST.  Fish
> oil helps the cell membrane and for a lot of us, there is a cell membrane
> problem and the threshold for neuronal firing is way too low.  In MY
> experience, no other oils work for this purpose.)
>
> Stetzer filters:  Subtle but real effect.  Even my totally non-e.s. husband
> noticed it.  Makes whole house seem calmer.   If you are interested in the
> Stetzer filters, I got them directly from Stetzer Electronics which is in
> Minnesota or North Dakota or Wisconsin (lol) and I asked beforehand, if I
> get too many, can I return some and they said yes.  I would put stetzer
> filters (and fish oil) in a different category from the pendants, stickers,
> even the earthing pads, because they use conventional science.
>
> Stetzer filters were first called Graham-Stetzer filters, because they were
> co-invented by a professor of electrical engineering (U.C. Berkeley) and an
> electrician.  they take "dirty electricity" off household wires and don't
> ask me what that means because I have no idea!  I just know that I find
> them really helpful.
>
> There are other places that sell the stetzer filters, but you have to buy a
> set which may or may not have the number of filters you need.  (If you are
> looking for extra ways to spend money, you can actually buy a meter which
> tells you when you have enough  filters, but I just went by how I felt).
>
> I don't have any affiliation with the vitaplex pendant, the Stetzer filter,
> any maker or seller of fish oil  or any maker or seller of any of these
> items!
>
> Just trying to be of help to others who like me are trying to live in this
> cellular/wifi/electrosmog world!
>
> Taliesen
>
> Finally just want to add,
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > On April 21, muii20 <mayflower700@...> wrote:
> > > Btw, what are your opinions on Q link pendant, my friends & their
> > friends
> > > ( health professionals of all sort) all raved about it.
> >
> > We've had a couple of positive reports here about the Q-Link pendant
> > over the years. And some reports that it didn't do anything.
> >
> > My report is that the Q-Link pendant was barely noticeable (and it
> > took me months to conclude that)
> >
> > Marc
> > 
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