Posted by Stefanie Toth on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/EHS-and-California-tp4023548p4023583.html

And I also think 'Control': Smart meters - they know exactly how much energy people use, smart cards - they exactly know how much money people spend, smart cars - see know exactly where we go and how often, and so on, and so on. We shifting more and more to Aldous Huxley's 'Brave New World'. When I was reading it during school time it seemed so far away. I guess we are now already there.

Stefanie


--- schlumlum <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr, 19.10.2012:

Von: schlumlum <[hidden email]>
Betreff: [eSens] Re: EHS and California
An: [hidden email]
Datum: Freitag, 19. Oktober, 2012 18:59 Uhr








 



 


   
     
     
      Check out the YouTube site EMFWATCH. It has some very good examples of what level of radiation is being emitted from these devices and some examples of what the same readings are far away from the devices, the low , natural levels mankind evolved with throughout the history of mankind. The difference between the natural levels and the manmade levels will have you wondering "what are they thinking?" In my opinion the answer to that is $$$$$$.  Profits for the corporations and Tax dollars for the governments.



--- In [hidden email], Stefanie Toth <stefaniet2@...> wrote:

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> Hi Esther,

>

> That's exactly what I thought :-) .

>

> Stefanie

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> --- Esther LeSieur <gomma@...> schrieb am Do, 18.10.2012:

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> Von: Esther LeSieur <gomma@...>

> Betreff: Re: [eSens] EHS and California

> An: [hidden email]

> Datum: Donnerstag, 18. Oktober, 2012 10:36 Uhr

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> Hi Stefanie,

>

> I lived in Daly City which is the first city south of San Francisco, 

> and just south of Ocean Beach.  In SF, PG&E has installed smart 

> electric and gas meters, and the water company was installed smart gas 

> meters.  PG&E's electric smart meters are much

>  stronger because of the 

> need to get the signals transmitted over the hills in SF.   I believe 

> there are also smart parking meters in SF, or soon will be.   I have 

> to go into the city twice a month, and get dizzy when I do.

>

> You can opt out of having a PG&E smart meter if you pay $75 upfront 

> and $10/month.  If you qualify for their low income program, you pay 

> $10 upfront and $5/month.  If you live in an apartment, the problem is 

> that there are usually banks of meters for the building, so you'll get 

> increased exposure, even if you opt out.

>

> According to antennasearch.com, my friend who lives in San Francisco 

> has 66 cell towers and 901 antenna with in a 3 mile radius of her 

> home.  The San Francisco Bay Area is pretty much blanketed with 4G 

> from the cell towers.

>

> The houses here in most of the

>  Bay Area are very close to each other 

> in comparison to other parts of the country, so neighbors' smart 

> meters, wifi and other wireless can be a problem.  (The houses on 

> either side of me are about 10 feet away.)  My ES started with one 

> neighbor getting a smart meter about a year before the rest of the 

> area.  Now that my whole neighborhood has been "smart metered",  my ES 

> has increased substantially.

>

> The SF airport is located just south of San Francisco, so there's 

> radar and all sorts of stuff coming from there, but that would only be 

> a problem if you lived quite close I would think.

>

> Joshua Hart is from Santa Cruz, and started stopsmartmeters.org 

> because of the impending PG&E installation of meters there, which PG&E 

> did despite a city ordinance prohibiting it.  It's possible he may be 

> able to

>  help.

>

> I'm fairly housebound, and don't go further south than to San Mateo, 

> which is down the Peninsula, so I really don't know much about areas 

> further south from there.  On the coast, there's a town just south of 

> where I am called Pacifica. I believe they have smart meters (you 

> could check with PG&E's website), but they may not have so many cell 

> towers (check antennasearch and verizon's website).  Pacifica is 

> mostly surrounded by cliffs.  The drive is probably about 20-30 

> minutes to SF.  Further down on the coast is Half Moon Bay which may 

> also be worth exploring.

>

> There's a city called Alameda in the East Bay that may not have smart 

> meters.  I was told by a resident there that they have their own power 

> company.  That was a few years ago, so I don't know if that has 

> changed.  To get to San

>  Francisco from there, you have to cross the 

> Bay Bridge by car or bus, or take BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) from 

> Oakland.

>

> Just to give you a head's up, housing costs, whether renting or 

> buying, are very high in the SF Bay Area.  (It can be a shock.)

>

> Hope some of this helps.

>

> Esther

>

>

>

> On Oct 17, 2012, at 1:17 AM, Stefanie Toth wrote:

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> > Hi All,

> >

> > For studies and work, maybe even doing a PhD there, I have to move 

> > to California

> > for a while (max. 6-7 years :) ) ? So, does someone know the 

> > situation regarding EHS there. Are there places where mobile signals 

> > are not so strong, no open electro lines... . I think I would be 

> > mainly near and South of San Francisco. I am a bit worried about 

> > that region, on the other hand side I was reading that many things 

> > are happening in

>  California to make it better?

> >

> > I would appreciate some comments and help.

> > Thanks,

> > Stefanie

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