> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:51:13 +0200
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
>
> Hello Lizzie,
>
> overhere they sell *Piezo* telephones (landline), because of the magnetic fields in ordinary phones.
>
> I have found that a common factor with electrosensitives is a chronic Calcium shortage.
> And, they also do have a Calcium loss.
>
> For that, vitamin K2 and D3 are necessary to see, that the Calcium gets in the right place in the body.
>
> It seems that Calcium Citrate is the best form which the body absorbs.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Elizabeth thode
>   To: [hidden email]
>   Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:08 PM
>   Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets
>
>
>
>   
>
>   Hi
>   Charles!
>
>   Love
>   that part: “normal people”.
>
>   I
>   think it’s going to come down to people trying this and seeing if it helps or
>   not. I totally agree, there are those who are extremely sensitive.
>
>   My
>   daughter was a “walking  meter” for all
>   kinds of fields. She is now no longer ES, after two and a half years of being
>   severely ES. Your protocols are similar to mine, in many ways. Very thorough
>   and impressive.
>
>   Again,
>   the magnet use is just one piece of a multi protocol. And what my daughter was
>   exposed to runs the gamut of extremely:  high electric fields, magnetic fields, dirty
>   electricity, and current in the water.
>
>   Suffice
>   it to say, the emf  loads combined with
>   environmental loads- were off the charts. What she was exposed to, long term,
>   causes Leukemia/ cancer clusters in children, just one of these fields alone. And
>   this was with eating organic foods for 8  years!
>
>   What’s
>   interesting is,  she used to “drain” the
>   batteries off of flashlights and her camera, within hours. She never tanned in
>   the sun either.
>
>   Bottom
>   line? ES really is a mixed bag and people will respond differently to various
>   treatments. It’s a matter of finding what works and what doesn’t.  P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently.
>
>   Lizzie
>
>
>    > To: [hidden email]
>   > From: [hidden email]
>   > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:04:41 +0200
>   > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
>   >
>   > Hello Lizzie,
>   >
>   > I wrote *electrosensitive people*.
>   >
>   > Sure a magnetic therapy may help, f.i. with a *tennis-arm*, but, for only *normal* people.
>   > Not for *electrosensitives*.
>   >
>   > Magnets are static (DC) magnetic fields.
>   > Robert Becker nowhere wrote about static magnetic fields.
>   > He only wrote about AC fields.
>   > You cannot place all reports/studies/publications in one basket, and jump to conclusions.
>   >
>   > I now have experience with electrosensitive people for thirteen years, and I even managed to make their sensitivity to lower.
>   > But a number do not feel the mobile phone masts, DECT phones, mobile phones, smartphones, tablets and Wifi anymore. But a number of them still feel the very low fields of magnets, and batteries (accu's), even of 9V.
>   > There are persons who do react to the batteries of a mobile phone.
>   >
>   > Perhaps you are not sensitive enough, but I still keep warning electrosensitive people to avois magnets.
>   >
>   > Greetings,
>   > Charles Claessens
>   > member Verband Baubiologie
>   > www.milieuziektes.nl
>   > www.milieuziektes.be
>   > www.hetbitje.nl
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>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Elizabeth thode
>   >   To: [hidden email]
>   >   Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:57 PM
>   >   Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   
>   >
>   >   Hi
>   >   Charles!
>   >
>   >   Hmm...very
>   >   interesting perspective you have.
>   >
>   >   However,
>   >   I disagree and I’ll tell you why. 
>   >
>   >   First
>   >   of all, I’ve seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress,
>   >   in situations where nothing else worked.
>   >
>   >   Which
>   >   would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients
>   >   are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the
>   >   purest  nutrients/ supplements would be
>   >   wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients.
>   >
>   >   As
>   >   toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many
>   >   illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of “why” the
>   >   body isn’t able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins.
>   >
>   >   Secondly,
>   >   I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals.
>   >   This begs the question of:  how can all
>   >   forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals?
>   >
>   >   My
>   >   working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf
>   >   fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out
>   >   of alignment.
>   >
>   >   Could
>   >   it be, that the  body normally operates
>   >   on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off
>   >   South/Positive Ions?  And when the body
>   >   is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the
>   >   cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply
>   >   Magnetic Field Deficiency.
>   >
>   >   
>   >
>   >   Which
>   >   is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are
>   >   plentiful.
>   >
>   >   Simply
>   >   translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless
>   >   radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the body’s own natural “field” to become
>   >   over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction.
>   >
>   >   Barrie
>   >   Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that  wifi “entrains” the brain cells. To me, this
>   >   means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field.
>   >
>   >   True
>   >   enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed
>   >   made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as there’s have
>   >   a good track record of being correctly “labeled”.
>   >
>   >   
>   >
>   >   And
>   >   think about this?
>   >
>   >   What
>   >   is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the
>   >   ground,  in a natural setting? What ions
>   >   are their body’s being exposed to?
>   >
>   >   
>   >
>   >   Lizzie
>   >
>   >
>   >    > To: [hidden email]
>   >   > From: [hidden email]
>   >   > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200
>   >   > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
>   >   >
>   >   > Lesson:
>   >   >
>   >   > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic.
>   >   > So, also from DC magnetic fields.
>   >   >
>   >   > Greetings,
>   >   > Charles Claessens
>   >   > member Verband Baubiologie
>   >   > www.milieuziektes.nl
>   >   > www.milieuziektes.be
>   >   > www.hetbitje.nl
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>   >   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   >   From: Elizabeth thode
>   >   >   To: [hidden email]
>   >   >   Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM
>   >   >   Subject: [eSens] Magnets
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>   >   >   On Magnet therapy:  Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation 
>   >   >
>   >   >   
>   >   >
>   >   >   As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in “The Body Electric,”
>   >   >
>   >   >   our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven
>   >   >   trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses.
>   >   >
>   >   >   
>   >   >
>   >   >   These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted
>   >   >   by the electropollution around us,
>   >   >
>   >   >   
>   >   >
>   >   >   especially when frequency wavelengthis in the
>   >   >   brainwave region (0-33 hertz),
>   >   >
>   >   >   or matches up with and resonates with
>   >   >   electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body.
>   >   >
>   >   >   
>   >   >
>   >   >   Becker also found that healing only takes
>   >   >   place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged.
>   >   >
>   >   >   
>   >   >
>   >   >   When it turns positive, the healing process
>   >   >   shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is
>   >   >   fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields
>   >   >
>   >   >   and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR.
>   >   >
>   >   >   
>   >   >
>   >   >   Lizzie
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