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KathyB on
URL: https://www.es-forum.com/Clinical-Trial-tp4017798p4018709.html
I'm sorry to post on this subject again, but this needs to be taken serious. As a patient who took therapeutic doses, will enter the 2nd year still in some kind of withdrawal syndrome.
I pray I will find a way to repair my damaged GABA receptors. I did this at home with slow tapering, The tapering has to go extremely slow.
Kathy
http://www.benzo.org.uk/lader2.htm in 1999 Professor Lader said: "It is more difficult to withdraw people
from benzodiazepines than it is from heroin. It just seems that the
dependency is so ingrained and the withdrawal symptoms you get are so
intolerable that people have a great deal of problem coming off. The
other aspect is that with heroin, usually the withdrawal is over within a
week or so. With benzodiazepines, a proportion of patients go on to
long term withdrawal and they have very unpleasant symptoms for month
after month, and I get letters from people saying you can go on for two
years or more. Some of the tranquilliser groups can document people who
still have symptoms ten years after stopping."
"We knew from the start that patients taking markedly
increased doses could get dependent, but thought only addictive
personalities could become dependent and that true addiction was
unusual. We got that wrong. What we didn't know, but know now, is that
even people taking therapeutic doses can become dependent."
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Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 10:35:24 +0000
Subject: [eSens] Clinical Trial
Hi all,
For some time I have been looking at different things that help damp down the
hyperelectrical/ inflammatory responses in the brain, like GABA and L-theanine,
similar to benzodiazepines.
I've thought for some time that benzodiazepine would be helpful in relieving symptoms. I
recently had oral surgery where that was used as the anesthesia. It did seem to give huge
relief to those symptoms for a couple days, and quite a lot for a couple weeks
afterwards, though they have gradually increased again.
While those are drugs you cannot take constantly, I think there is a big key here that can lead
to some useful treatments.
What I would like to do is get a trial going with benzodiazepine over the period of about
a year. I'm planning to write Dr. Magda Havas and see if she would be interested in
heading this up, to collect and correlate data, and then if it seems widely useful, maybe
it can be narrowed down more closely to a specific protocol.
I'm hoping to make a local Dr. app't. soon to discuss doing a trial with this for myself again,
and I am hoping there will be some of you who would like to participate also, asking your Dr.
to allow you to try this.
It wouldn't have to be real specific in use as yet, but tailored between you and your Dr. to
give it a try, whether you were to take it for say a week running with breaks inbetween, or
maybe a couple days a week over a longer period of time, or in one larger occassional dose
as in general anesthesia amounts, maybe a few times over a year.
If Dr. Havas is not interested, I will still collect the data, and work with my Dr., so we can see
what happens. I believe this, while likely not a cure, will be a big help in ameliorating symptoms,
and at least making life more liveable, such as people with CFS may use occasional codeine,
or saline IVs for helping with symptom relief on extra busy days.
So, at this point, you would have much more free reign to try it on varying amounts, what seemed
to work for you, and just need to keep track of how much, how long you used it each time, and
if you noticed any results for it, and how long they lasted.
This may also be helpful in translating into just how much of natural substances we may be
able to use to get similar dramatic results.
Anyone that would be interested in joining in this study, please just note here, and/or email me directly.
~ Snoshoe
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