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URL: https://www.es-forum.com/dnr-system-for-ES-people-now-available-tp3949107p3953646.html
Hi Pam,
I am not trashing DNR, I do think most of us would profit from it, or a similar program, at some point. But there are both neural memories, and actual bodily dysfunctions at work with ES. DNR will not heal, for instance, ion channel leaking. But DNR will heal the anticipation or anxiety one encounters when they go into an area they formerly reacted to but should not *now* react to, because they are healed, or partially, healed.
I personally have found I sometimes react to pesticides in my old house (which had a bad pesticide problem--long story), and it is now 6 years after the pesticide was used. I now tell myself that I am just imagining it, and I often do not react the same (bronchial mucus, chest pain, lymphatic swelling..... However, I have had complete anaphylaxis [complete inability to breathe within 10 steps of the front door] to pesticides in some shops which I have entered and had no idea they pesticided before going in. So.... you do the math.)
I can sometimes see a difference in ES situations by doing this, also. But it doesn't always work. I usually do not react anymore, but still there are times I do. Now when I react, the reaction usually isn't due to anticipation or neural memories, but due to me not taking good enough care of my health, overall. [Due to caring for my parents and hanging out in hospitals and doctors offices too much.] In otherwords, telling myself I am imagining it doesn't usually help. But if I go home and nurture myself for a few days, I can return to the same environment and not react to the same emfs.
Blessings,
Diane
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Subject: Re: [eSens] dnr system for ES people now available
Thanks Marc,
I had a line out to you. I was hoping that you would reply to this, but I didn't realize it would be so quickly. I guess it's worth trying once I can come up with the money. I was in a very stressful place when I came down with this thing. Maybe it was the snowball effect in this case. Now, here's the toss do I try the quantum thing or the neuro thing first? H-m-m-m.
Pam
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From: Marc Martin <
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Subject: Re: [eSens] dnr system for ES people now available
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Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 1:12 PM
On May 1, pamela clemonts <
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> So these really are psychiatric conditions and have no basis in toxicity whatsoever?
> I can understand where retraining the mind could be helpful in many cases.
> Are they saying that allergies to food and chemicals do not really exist?
I have personal experience with a few of these "neural retraining" methods.
They did not work for me at all.
Like you say, if your problem is toxicity, then retraining the mind isn't really
going to do anything other than waste your time and money.
Marc
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